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maralt
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Posted - 2008.12.29 09:56:00 -
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Falcons hurt solo pvpers but meh if a falcon is involved its at least 2 - 1 against the solo player anyway if not more.
They make mid sized gang combat very interesting and tactical instead of static.
While being pretty much ineffective in large gangs/fleets.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 29/12/2008 13:57:23
 Originally by: Hysteresis
I can't remember the name or link of the PVP video made (can someone help me out trying to find it), but in the video he setup a ship (apoc or geddon I believe) with all ECCM and backup sensors that gave hima crazy sensor strength in the hundreds (or higher) and was perma jammed by a falcon... if your sensor strength is 1,300 and you are being perma jammed.... there is a problem!
The only link i have seen that was anything like that was a carrier that had nearly 600 str, the person posting it "claimed" he was "perma" jammed but all he showed was a screen shot. When challenged to make a fraps of the event to prove he was "perma jammed" instead of just being a liar who waited til he was jammed for a single cycle and took a screenie he went very quiet and the thread died.
So 1300 sig str + perma jam fraps pls...or in eve speak...proof or stfu.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
Originally by: Ikonz
Edited by: Ikonz on 29/12/2008 13:47:48
lets not make eve a game where only the amount of damage that you can dish out matters. Which is something that its rapidly becoming.
Please come up with arguments, and not the generalizations. They add nothing to the discussion. It fits in right with adapt or die, learn to play etc. No content at all. Either support your opinion with arguments or don't bother posting.
Does that apply to the "wwaaaa PERMA-jammed with 7 billion sig str" kinda comment threads like these get filled with?.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hysteresis
It's near the end of the vid FYI.
And if it shows a 1300 sig str "perma jam" you may keep posting...
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 29/12/2008 15:08:18
Originally by: Hysteresis
Right... again I said in the hundreds with an arbitrary value.
REALLY?.
Originally by: Hysteresis
if your sensor strength is 1,300 and you are being perma jammed.... there is a problem!
 
PS: Asking for proof of a claim is not calling you a liar.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 29/12/2008 15:12:35
Originally by: Hysteresis
At 11:05, 3x ECCM II's, str of 115 getting jammed the whole time.
Thoughts?
Well first id say your missing at least a zero from your original emo fueled claims of 1300 str......and it falls rather short of your other claims of "hundreds (or higher)" str..
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hysteresis
I'm still waiting to hear your thoughts on having it be 115 and still getting jammed the WHOLE time, not about my previously said made up number of 1300.
I am still waiting for the DL to finish before i comment, as your reliability, honesty and accuracy is rather questionable due to recent posts tbh.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 29/12/2008 15:26:35
Originally by: Hysteresis
Originally by: maralt
Originally by: Hysteresis
I'm still waiting to hear your thoughts on having it be 115 and still getting jammed the WHOLE time, not about my previously said made up number of 1300.
I am still waiting for the DL to finish before i comment, as your reliability, honesty and accuracy is rather questionable due to recent posts tbh.
Ditto to you, as saying that a cruiser can't be jammed all the time 
Did i, are you sure that was me and not somebody else or are you making things up again?.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hysteresis
Originally by: maralt
Maybe you would be a better pvper if you paid better attention to details.
Did I, at any point say anything about my pvp skills? How did you come to this conclusion? What is it about my pvp skills that lack?
That's what I thought - you have no idea how good or bad I am, you just wanted to make a personal attack because you wanted your view to look better. Maybe you should heed you own advice
Ok here is the thing pal, making attacks on my character after you have lied about details (1300 str lol) as well as having made accusations against me for making comments i did not actually make (cruiser perma jam) is a weak defense at best.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hysteresis
Also, please give me a raven setup that is survivable with 3x ECCM II's...
Screw eccm, Burn Eden use damp fitted ravens to great effect against all types of gangs in eve, be they falcon heavy or not.
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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 17:28:00 -
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Your both kinda correct but the fact is that ppl use a "infinite time frame" to work out the % of ability jammers get, that is why "perma jamming" is imposable against ships with certain sig str and also why jammers can be either highly effective or crap depending on sheer luck tbh.
A ship that gets jammed dies within the first 20 seconds of the fight could be considered "perma jammed" relative to its life span in the fight, while on the other side of the coin a falcon that misses a jam on a ship that then melts one of his buddies cos its not jammed makes the jam ship/falcon equally as useless as the first scenario falcon was useful.
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