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big miker
Minmatar
Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2008.12.28 17:57:00 -
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I want to know how many hate them and how many ppl ectualy like them.
In my opinion?
Overpoweredpussiecatcantwinwithoutonebetterthenanyotherewar ship... 
So, whats ur opinion?
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Mal Plox
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:02:00 -
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it's a ship that does what it's supposed to. I've seen em insta popped, i've seen em turn tides of battles...
it's a tissue paper thing EW ship that can be very effective. That's all there is to it.
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fightnkill
Violent Fury
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: fightnkill on 28/12/2008 18:03:17
a Domi with 3x Magnenometric ECCM II + overheat and still got jammed 
can't even tackle them when they're 120km away, and just cloaks/jams when someone approaches them
oya, they ruin solo/small gang pvp.
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:03:00 -
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hey hey
I think its a perfect ship.
does what its designed to do
relativly cheap
people are using them correctly
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big miker
Minmatar
Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Mikal Drey
hey hey
I think its a perfect ship.
does what its designed to do
relativly cheap
people are using them correctly
Being used a bit too much, tough >.>
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:09:00 -
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My opinion is that "your", "people", and "actually" aren't particularly hard or taxing words to spell.
Also, Falcons give damps a purpose… 
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Jack Light
Beyond All Frontier
White Core
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:10:00 -
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Nerf ECM!
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Javelin6
Minmatar
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Associates
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:11:00 -
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Great force-multiplier. It really helps our small groups ( ship size and numbers) engage and win against larger groups that have many times more firepower. Extremely cost effective.
However, I will concede that from time to time it comes down to who has the most Falcons on the grid wins.
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Burning Horizon
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:11:00 -
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ECM does need a nerf tbh
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:21:00 -
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one of the reasons why they are being used to much is because its such an effective ship. everything about it is perfectly setup to compliment a gang wether its fleet or roaming.
I remember when scorpions were fotm but even they have been surpassed by the Falcon. If you look at the whole ECM range then you can see that the falcon would be your ship of choice.
Blackbird (no cloak)
Kitsune (tinfoil)
Rook (no cloak)
Falcon PERFECT
Scorpion (very fleet specific)
Widow (way to expensive)
i think you have to ask yourself that if you were an ECM pilot which ship you would fly. one of the reasons we believe that a falcon is overpowered is mostly because they are the ONLY ship of choice.
ECM on the whole has always been a huge bone of contention in PVP as ECM itself i so very powerfull. the playerbase loves to cry on the forums and never seem to see the big picture. IF CCP nerf falcons then what will be the next ECM ship of choice ?
ECM also has a crappy countermeasure(s) which adds to the ECM overpowerdness. Instead of falcon nerfing. ECCM/FOF's both need a huge development boost.
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big miker
Minmatar
Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
My opinion is that "your", "people", and "actually" aren't particularly hard or taxing words to spell.
Also, Falcons give damps a purposeā
Shutup about someone's spelling will you?
Besides, damps don't have to optimal range of 100 / 150 km, do they?
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
My opinion is that "your", "people", and "actually" aren't particularly hard or taxing words to spell.
Also, Falcons give damps a purposeā
Is he saying your, or you are? it's hard to tell :(
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Mors Magne
Caldari
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Light
Nerf ECM!
 Should ECM be nerfed, or is it Falcons that just need nerfing
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Zantrei Kordisin
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: big miker
I want to know how many hate them and how many ppl ectualy like them.
In my opinion?
Overpoweredpussiecatcantwinwithoutonebetterthenanyotherewar ship...
So, whats ur opinion?
I agree, there is a very real, massive issue with the Falcon, and CCP need to address it immediately. They don't do nearly enough damage and nor do they have any real tackling ability without putting themselves in a rather risky position. I personally feel an additional medium slot, a +100% warp disruptor range per level bonus and four further high slots and launcher slots are needed to make it a decent ship. Right now it is useless, all it can do is sit at range jamming, and has to run away if anyone tries to kill it.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:24:00 -
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boost eccm. nerf alts.
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Jack Light
Beyond All Frontier
White Core
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Light on 28/12/2008 18:45:16
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche
boost eccm. nerf alts.
Boost Roflcakes, nerf forums.
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Berious
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:54:00 -
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Overpowered and breeding like rabbits. Also the only recon I don't suck in.
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Iva Soreass
Gentlemen Bastards
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:54:00 -
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My opinion of them is people need to stop trying to throw thier toys out the pram and crying and man up and get some tactics to deal with them.
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CHAOS100
Black Plague.
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 18:57:00 -
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It's the best thing Caldari has atm and makes them more viable for PVP.
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baltec1
R.U.S.T.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: big miker
Originally by: Tippia
My opinion is that "your", "people", and "actually" aren't particularly hard or taxing words to spell.
Also, Falcons give damps a purposeā
Shutup about someone's spelling will you?
Besides, damps don't have to optimal range of 100 / 150 km, do they?
Doesnt stop me using them on my bomber to great effect.
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Solid Prefekt
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:02:00 -
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I think it is an awesome ship for so many situations and very hard to kill when flown with a skilled pilot. And with the speed changes it now takes twice as long to get to them. More then enough time to jam or warp away. If you are Caldari it is the ship to fly and every gang will want you.
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mors Magne
Originally by: Jack Light
Nerf ECM!
Should ECM be nerfed, or is it Falcons that just need nerfing
I say let ECM users enjoy the sh-t fest that is scripts like ECM range where they can barely ecm a velator, or ecm strength where ECM is uber but they can't sit 120km off anymore. That would make me feel better.
*wanders off mumbling about scripts*
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Burning Horizon
ECM does need a nerf tbh
"adapt or die"
ECM as a mechanism is fine.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:22:00 -
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I know what my opinion on flamebait is.
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Burning Horizon
ECM does need a nerf tbh
"adapt or die"
ECM as a mechanism is fine.
I like this adapt or die thing when used in conjunction with the smell of fear of change. It has the smell of oh my god please don't make me adapt, combined with the belittlement of those who have a difficulty adapting.
Keep it up you make me smile.
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:48:00 -
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i think they are beautiful birds and should be protected as an endangered species
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Corduroy Rab
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:50:00 -
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When they are jamming my enemy, I love them.
When they are jamming me, I hate them.
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:51:00 -
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also my opinion on people who insist on using textspeak in everyday usage is pretty clear, too
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Christari Zuborov
Amarr
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:56:00 -
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ECM isn't overpowered, it's just very effective vs. certain ship types, and very weak vs. others.
A properly fit sniper BS has a 32% chance of being jammed with the correct racial jammer and will kill a Falcon in 2-3 volleys. If you have two of them, the Falcon is pretty much screwed.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.12.28 20:06:00 -
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Falcons are simply not in line with other recons, let alone other ships in EVE. They are the only ones that can completely disable 3, sometimes more ships with relative ease, even if those ships fit 1 ECCM each (which is useless for anything else than countering ECM). On top of that, they can do it from 100km+ and they can warp cloaked.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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