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Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:32:00 -
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$19 per month or $200 lifetime, it'd be cheaper to learn trial and error  |
D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:35:00 -
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To each's own.
Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Himnos Altar
Angry Hobos
Interstellar Hobos
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:36:00 -
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wait, since when has EVE offered a lifetime subscription? |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:36:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:$19 per month or $200 lifetime, it'd be cheaper to learn trial and error I heard WoW went F2P, just sayin.
GÇ£Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:58:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:wait, since when has EVE offered a lifetime subscription?
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Artemis Pax
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.14 06:06:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:$19 per month or $200 lifetime, it'd be cheaper to learn trial and error
If you really want to be like Garmon, use the money on a booster alt instead. Far more effective than watching pvp videos. |
Maximillion Carter
Node Nibblers
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Posted - 2012.04.14 06:50:00 -
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Hmmm, $19/month to view the same type of videos already freely available for free by other players...nice try. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
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Posted - 2012.04.14 08:36:00 -
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If you don't want to pay it, don't pay it.
But don't be a female dog and whine about how someone else produced something and is selling it.
That just makes you look like a peasant.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 08:41:00 -
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Wait, Lifetime sub? I would be on that like a Bot on Ice if it was really available. Hell, I'd get two, that way I'd always have an alt. |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.04.14 08:55:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:wait, since when has EVE offered a lifetime subscription?
+1 |
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Katarina Reid
Freelance Wealth Redistribution Specialists
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Posted - 2012.04.14 08:59:00 -
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More than a eve sub wtf? There is alot of the same stuff from different people for FREE on utube. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:09:00 -
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I watched the Rupture video & the Myrm video, 1 done by Garmon & 1 done By Will Adama and I'd say both were very well narrated and they do a pretty good job explaining what they are doing & why. Hell I'd say I picked up a trick or two so they were worth the watch.
I'm sure you can find other PVP videos out there, but you aren't gonna find the quality or at least very many of them IMO. Anyone that has the RL ISK to burn and want's to learn PVP, likely wont lose out. I do like the fact that they are using affordable & even cheap set ups for their videos as that put focus on what a average viewer would learn with.
I only wish they were free so I could just send all our noobs guys his way, however I guess everyone has to eat and why not make a few bucks if you are good at something. |
Sandra Vellocet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:21:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:wait, since when has EVE offered a lifetime subscription?
Considering its 130 a year, 200's a great deal. If only that exists :( |
Degren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:23:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:I watched the Rupture video & the Myrm video, 1 done by Garmon & 1 done By Will Adama and I'd say both were very well narrated and they do a pretty good job explaining what they are doing & why. Hell I'd say I picked up a trick or two so they were worth the watch.
I'm sure you can find other PVP videos out there, but you aren't gonna find the quality or at least very many of them IMO. Anyone that has the RL ISK to burn and want's to learn PVP, likely wont lose out. I do like the fact that they are using affordable & even cheap set ups for their videos as that put focus on what a average viewer would learn with.
I only wish they were free so I could just send all our noobs guys his way, however I guess everyone has to eat and why not make a few bucks if you are good at something.
He could make a few bucks popping them up on youtube with ads.
It's about a dollar per thousand total views. A bit more if you have good, targeted advertising (I set it up much too late). If he made some decent videos he could quite easily clear a few hundred thousand views. Made videos for a few games and still have views/cash trickling in.
Or he could put ads on his website with adsense. Or link his youtube videos from his website and get both.
This actually puts less demands on him and his databases, etc.
But hey, some people are apparently willing to pay 19 bucks for a guide, so what incentive does he have to do that? And not everyone likes to do their stuff "open source" |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:26:00 -
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OP is talking about website http://www.eveiseasy.com/ - not EVE itself.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Slaktoid
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:28:00 -
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The price surprised me alittle bit at first, but then I thought about it for a few seconds. People who pay premium are probably less likely to rip that **** and put it on thepiratebay or similar, so it's probably a smart decision. Wish them the best with this project. How cool woudn't it be to have people playing Eve "for a living".
It's a hell of a lot better value for money than a pair of pants and a monocle at least. |
killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:31:00 -
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i guess i wasn't the only one naive enough to think it would be free
huh? |
Degren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:36:00 -
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Slaktoid wrote:The price surprised me alittle bit at first, but then I thought about it for a few seconds. People who pay premium are probably less likely to rip that **** and put it on thepiratebay or similar, so it's probably a smart decision. Wish them the best with this project. How cool woudn't it be to have people playing Eve "for a living".
It's a hell of a lot better value for money than a pair of pants and a monocle at least.
Alt detected
Edit: Also, the opposite is true. Torrentors are willing to spend some cash to distribute widely for "praise" Many things on ze bay of pirates are from a paid source. Freedom of information and all that noise. Cute way of saying I want free **** |
velox
Darkside Gardens
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:39:00 -
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At half the monthly amount I think I would have subb'd never been a big pvper but would like to learn more, but at more than the eve sub...
Would have been nice to see a 'come try the service for 3 months at $10 per' and then with a record of 3 months worth of video put the price up. oh well
Good luck with the site though guys the vid's i did see were indeed excellent.
V. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:49:00 -
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They are crazy. I wouldnt even pay half! They are nutz. They obviously do not know that there is a world economic issue. Its really appoling.
As many said, its cheaper to get another alt for a whole year in eve. I dont know about the rest of you, but i rather give my money to CCP to support and improve the game than to a couple of guys who use "expensive" ships to pvp and call that "easy". Ofcource is easy! Using a ship worth 1billion+ in a group with 2 or 3 others to kill a few people. Dont make me laugh.
The subscription should not be worth more than $5 a month. Anything beyond that, i rather get another alt in Eve! |
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Memrox
Memrox Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:58:00 -
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i figured a few quid a month, not this.
And yeh i can see all this being ripped just because of the price. Something cheap why bother (pay for it you bum!), something expensive - share it with everyone. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
KUGUTSUMEN.
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:05:00 -
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Its not a bad idea. However pricing is horrible. They seem to be going after the quality payments over quantity, which with something like instructional videos for a video game you really want quantity. Doing like $30 a year sub or doing $5 a month will get more people to buy, or breaking the lessons down into different categories and selling the category at a set price. |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:05:00 -
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Are these eveiseasy.com people even allowed to do what they're doing? I haven't gone too far into it, but it sounds to me like they're making money off of CCP's intellectual property.
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Degren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:26:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:Are these eveiseasy.com people even allowed to do what they're doing? I haven't gone too far into it, but it sounds to me like they're making money off of CCP's intellectual property.
They're making a guide with it. Their words, their instruction, their abilities, their intellectual property |
Raziel Saston
Deviance Cartel
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:26:00 -
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It all feels a bit like a JML advert
Murphy asked Paddy "What ringtone have you got ?"
Paddy said, "I've never really looked, but probably light brown." |
james1122
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:45:00 -
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Videos were really good, pricing is horrific. I'm never going to pay more for a guide than what the game itself costs. I think the most I would have been willing to pay is $5 a month.
Two Step for CSM |
seany1212
eXceed Inc.
No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:21:00 -
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The funny thing is that while they portray eve as being easy what they're doing isn't easily replicated by any casual eve player, firstly needing a gang booster maxed out to the eyeballs with a T3 that's difficult to probe, ships with deadspace mods and billion isk implants. Granted it is possible, just not as clean cut as they make out.
The price itself is ridiculous and as others have stated there are thousands of other videos available for free on youtube and eve-files that will give you just as much instruction.  |
velox
Darkside Gardens
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:49:00 -
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I figured out the problem... They are pvpers not traders. What they needed was a trader with 'smarts V' as he would have told them that 2000 people at 5 bucks a month is better than 50 at 20.  |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Killing With Kindness
The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:55:00 -
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Yeah this doesn't make sense on the price point. I'm not saying that because I want it but can't afford it, I can.
I am also immediately turned off by the front page advert. It's a ridiculously long infomercial in essence and one that just makes me feel like I'm being scammed once I see the price.
The content is obviously going to be great if it stays at the same level as what I've already seen and earning money off that is no bad thing and would be justly deserved considering the work put in.
Can't help thinking the balls been dropped on the marketing and business model to monetize that content. |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.04.14 12:33:00 -
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I found their videos entertaining, but I wasn't planning to pay $19 a month... that being said, I think there is a lot of eve "newbies" out there who could benefit from their videos! what it really teaches you, is that you don't need a blob to fight a blob :) often you just need kiting abilities (and maybe a loki booster)
All in all, the videos I seen so far have been decent at teaching newbies different ways to become better, what it really is about is... just undock and start pvp'ing |
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