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Vyger
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Posted - 2004.07.21 12:57:00 -
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Production has now started on this amazing device and I am taking orders (evemail me in game).
FAQS.
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high. This price only applies for this week, I will revise it at the end of each week so if the price is too high for you right now then wait a few weeks for the price to drop. Early adopters always pay a premium to get ahead.
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
Q. Can I buy the BPO from you
A. No, I have no plans to sell the BPO at the current time
Q. Do you deliver?
A. No. Once we have agreed the sale and the device has been made I will evemail you details of how to collect it (and yes it will be in Empire space, you will not have to travel into dangerous space to get it)
Q. How quick can you make it?
A. Due to RL pressures (dammit why do we have to work for a living), and the build time required , production is limited to about 1 a day so please be patient.
If you have any other questions then evemail me in game or convo me.
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Vyger
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Posted - 2004.07.21 12:57:00 -
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Production has now started on this amazing device and I am taking orders (evemail me in game).
FAQS.
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high. This price only applies for this week, I will revise it at the end of each week so if the price is too high for you right now then wait a few weeks for the price to drop. Early adopters always pay a premium to get ahead.
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
Q. Can I buy the BPO from you
A. No, I have no plans to sell the BPO at the current time
Q. Do you deliver?
A. No. Once we have agreed the sale and the device has been made I will evemail you details of how to collect it (and yes it will be in Empire space, you will not have to travel into dangerous space to get it)
Q. How quick can you make it?
A. Due to RL pressures (dammit why do we have to work for a living), and the build time required , production is limited to about 1 a day so please be patient.
If you have any other questions then evemail me in game or convo me.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:22:00 -
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People would have to be insane to buy one but Im sure you'll get a few sales at that price with the "Got to have it" crowd.
When you get down to 60mil a pop contact me, I'll be interested.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:22:00 -
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People would have to be insane to buy one but Im sure you'll get a few sales at that price with the "Got to have it" crowd.
When you get down to 60mil a pop contact me, I'll be interested.
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Tjakka
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:30:00 -
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OMG you have so much GREED
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high. This price only applies for this week, I will revise it at the end of each week so if the price is too high for you right now then wait a few weeks for the price to drop. Early adopters always pay a premium to get ahead.
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
ROFL IMO how do you know they are extremely expensive to make if you dont have the building list
just so ......
2004.09.17 20:03:46combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes The Thief, wrecking for 284.1 damage.
Your Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes The Thief, wrecking for 284.1 damage.
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Tjakka
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:30:00 -
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OMG you have so much GREED
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high. This price only applies for this week, I will revise it at the end of each week so if the price is too high for you right now then wait a few weeks for the price to drop. Early adopters always pay a premium to get ahead.
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
ROFL IMO how do you know they are extremely expensive to make if you dont have the building list
just so ......
2004.09.17 20:03:46combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes The Thief, wrecking for 284.1 damage.
Your Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes The Thief, wrecking for 284.1 damage.
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:32:00 -
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Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high.
Quote:
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
enjoy your 2000% Markup as long as missing Competition allows you to ;)
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:32:00 -
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Quote:
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high.
Quote:
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
enjoy your 2000% Markup as long as missing Competition allows you to ;)
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:39:00 -
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congrats to the bpo owner.
And that price is expected from such a sought-after and so unique item.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:39:00 -
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congrats to the bpo owner.
And that price is expected from such a sought-after and so unique item.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:40:00 -
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20+mil for a frig
180mil for a cloaking device
thats 200mil for 1 frigate.
wowzer
Forums: Sharks - MC |
Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.21 13:40:00 -
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20+mil for a frig
180mil for a cloaking device
thats 200mil for 1 frigate.
wowzer
Forums: Sharks - MC |
Anything
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Posted - 2004.07.21 14:20:00 -
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So it's expensive to make, but you won't tell us how expensive. Would that be because, it's not that expensive to make?
It's a shame there are people with so much money that they'll actually pay those prices even if they know they're getting ripped off, because they'll keep the prices artificially high whether they object to them or not.
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Anything
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Posted - 2004.07.21 14:20:00 -
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So it's expensive to make, but you won't tell us how expensive. Would that be because, it's not that expensive to make?
It's a shame there are people with so much money that they'll actually pay those prices even if they know they're getting ripped off, because they'll keep the prices artificially high whether they object to them or not.
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vyger
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high. This price only applies for this week, I will revise it at the end of each week so if the price is too high for you right now then wait a few weeks for the price to drop. Early adopters always pay a premium to get ahead.
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
Both are linked, the cost isn't going to be no where near 180mil hence he won't give the list of components cause then we'll know how expensive it really is.
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vyger
Q. How much does it Cost?
A. The initial price is 180m. Yes, I know its ridculously high but the cost to make it is also extremely high. This price only applies for this week, I will revise it at the end of each week so if the price is too high for you right now then wait a few weeks for the price to drop. Early adopters always pay a premium to get ahead.
Q. Can I have a list of the components
A. No
Both are linked, the cost isn't going to be no where near 180mil hence he won't give the list of components cause then we'll know how expensive it really is.
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Armin Chamberlain
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:27:00 -
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So what, its his right to ask what he wants for it, and how stupid would it be to give up the components list. And if nobody pays that, fine, he can always lower the price.
Having said that, of course its an enourmous ripoff, but thats business for ya, hahahaha.  |
Armin Chamberlain
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:27:00 -
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So what, its his right to ask what he wants for it, and how stupid would it be to give up the components list. And if nobody pays that, fine, he can always lower the price.
Having said that, of course its an enourmous ripoff, but thats business for ya, hahahaha. |
Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:40:00 -
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There are, I think, two factors.
First is that he presently appears to have a monopoly or a near-monopoly on production; as such, he'll charge what the market can bear. As these get to have a larger distribution, competition will increase and he'll be forced to lower his prices.
Second is that the covert ops cloak will be reliant on the prototype cloak prices for production, something he may not necessarily control (and therefore an expense he is subject to). Indeed, it may even require the improved cloak II, though that I somewhat doubt.
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:40:00 -
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There are, I think, two factors.
First is that he presently appears to have a monopoly or a near-monopoly on production; as such, he'll charge what the market can bear. As these get to have a larger distribution, competition will increase and he'll be forced to lower his prices.
Second is that the covert ops cloak will be reliant on the prototype cloak prices for production, something he may not necessarily control (and therefore an expense he is subject to). Indeed, it may even require the improved cloak II, though that I somewhat doubt.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:59:00 -
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I would never tell you what my cost is for making something like this.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.07.21 15:59:00 -
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I would never tell you what my cost is for making something like this.
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.21 16:04:00 -
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I am enjoying mine Vyger!! Thanks man!!
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.21 16:04:00 -
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I am enjoying mine Vyger!! Thanks man!!
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 16:43:00 -
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If only people had a little patience and waited a bit of time to let the price drop instead of buying it at the current price. But ohwell....it's their isk i suppose.
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The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 16:43:00 -
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If only people had a little patience and waited a bit of time to let the price drop instead of buying it at the current price. But ohwell....it's their isk i suppose.
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The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.07.21 17:01:00 -
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There will ultimately be 8 BPO's of all the tech II items, unless the devs change their mind on how they have bee doing things. So I expect the prices to drop sharply within 2 or 3 weeks. To me, it's not a long period of time. I can wait. If you have somewhere to be and you have to be cloaked within that period of time, then maybe you will shell out that much isk.
When I got my tech II BPO, I started selling at what was average for current tech II items. I made more cash from Volume not the actual cost of the item.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.07.21 17:01:00 -
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There will ultimately be 8 BPO's of all the tech II items, unless the devs change their mind on how they have bee doing things. So I expect the prices to drop sharply within 2 or 3 weeks. To me, it's not a long period of time. I can wait. If you have somewhere to be and you have to be cloaked within that period of time, then maybe you will shell out that much isk.
When I got my tech II BPO, I started selling at what was average for current tech II items. I made more cash from Volume not the actual cost of the item.
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.21 17:14:00 -
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Um, I'll take 15 of 'em right now ! - LMAO |
Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.21 17:14:00 -
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Um, I'll take 15 of 'em right now ! - LMAO |
Vyger
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Posted - 2004.07.21 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tjakka
OMG you have so much GREED
You know nothing.
And the markup is not 2000% as suggested by someone else, or even 200%.
I agree that the price is ridiculous, I SAID that it was. But it costs ME lots of money to make. If I were to release the build list then the cost would no doubt have to go UP becuase my access to components would go DOWN.
You have a lot to learn about market forces.
And the price WILL come down. So if you dont want to pay the current price then wait a while its as simple as that.
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Vyger
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Posted - 2004.07.21 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tjakka
OMG you have so much GREED
You know nothing.
And the markup is not 2000% as suggested by someone else, or even 200%.
I agree that the price is ridiculous, I SAID that it was. But it costs ME lots of money to make. If I were to release the build list then the cost would no doubt have to go UP becuase my access to components would go DOWN.
You have a lot to learn about market forces.
And the price WILL come down. So if you dont want to pay the current price then wait a while its as simple as that.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:16:00 -
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Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:16:00 -
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Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
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lord sky
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:19:00 -
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I sent you an ingame mail. I want one too plz.
Greetings
Sky
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lord sky
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:19:00 -
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I sent you an ingame mail. I want one too plz.
Greetings
Sky
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McFly
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
Eaxctly what I thought of when I read this post.
Tho, I think is fist price was 120mil 
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McFly
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
Eaxctly what I thought of when I read this post.
Tho, I think is fist price was 120mil
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:00:00 -
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Proto Cloaks cost 1.2m to build at current prices.
Improved Cloaks cost about 1m, and a Prototype.
You saying the Coverts cost upwards of 100m to build? :)
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:00:00 -
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Proto Cloaks cost 1.2m to build at current prices.
Improved Cloaks cost about 1m, and a Prototype.
You saying the Coverts cost upwards of 100m to build? :)
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Omnioram
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:14:00 -
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Ill take 10 plz, also if anyone has any harvies for sale im willing to pay 20mill isk each !
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Omnioram
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:14:00 -
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Ill take 10 plz, also if anyone has any harvies for sale im willing to pay 20mill isk each !
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Proto Cloaks cost 1.2m to build at current prices.
Improved Cloaks cost about 1m, and a Prototype.
You saying the Coverts cost upwards of 100m to build? :)
As was said earlier...it's fairly possible it requires a prototype cloak to build this device. It's also possible he doesn't have the proto cloak BPO.
Average price for a proto cloak is 20 mil or so. In my opinion....the device probably costs about 25 mil to make, assuming a 220milish proto cloak cost.
So he's charging 8x what it costs to make. That seems fairly reasonable - that happens in real life.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Proto Cloaks cost 1.2m to build at current prices.
Improved Cloaks cost about 1m, and a Prototype.
You saying the Coverts cost upwards of 100m to build? :)
As was said earlier...it's fairly possible it requires a prototype cloak to build this device. It's also possible he doesn't have the proto cloak BPO.
Average price for a proto cloak is 20 mil or so. In my opinion....the device probably costs about 25 mil to make, assuming a 220milish proto cloak cost.
So he's charging 8x what it costs to make. That seems fairly reasonable - that happens in real life.
Play The BIG Lottery! |
Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
20+mil for a frig
180mil for a cloaking device
thats 200mil for 1 frigate.
wowzer
And mess up once, drones eat you and its all over.
I'll wait til its 50mil for the ship and divice combined. Then *maybe*.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
20+mil for a frig
180mil for a cloaking device
thats 200mil for 1 frigate.
wowzer
And mess up once, drones eat you and its all over.
I'll wait til its 50mil for the ship and divice combined. Then *maybe*.
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AFortuna
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:09:00 -
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He needs the Improved Cloak II to make them and they sell for 80-100 mil I think and the BPO hasnt been released yet.
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AFortuna
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:09:00 -
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He needs the Improved Cloak II to make them and they sell for 80-100 mil I think and the BPO hasnt been released yet.
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el Gorrion
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:09:00 -
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You cant expect to post rubbish like that in here and not got flamed, or worse, exposed.
Tech II Bpo Owner's have everyright in the world to Pricegouge, hey, you earnt it.
You dont have to lie about production times or cost inorder to make the ¨ber profit tho.
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Blueprint
Manufacturing Time ~ 24000
Apocalypse Blueprint
Manufacturing Time ~ 18000
hmmmm...
As soon as i get the build requirements, i will be posting those too. I expect the Requirement for this tech II mod is the tech 1 prototype, not the other tech II mod on the market, i doubt very much the build cost of 100m+ even if it did require an improved II to build.
I've considered your generous offer for covert op cloak II's and i'll be waiting for the Mass produced, revised prices in a month (when i expect the Helios to be finally selling at a decent price)
oh just on a note,
Base mineral prices
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II = 1 785 720
Improved Cloaking Device II = 1 130 360
Prototype Cloaking Device I = 802 680
WTB DREAD GURRISTAS CLOAK ~ 100 mil.
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el Gorrion
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:09:00 -
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You cant expect to post rubbish like that in here and not got flamed, or worse, exposed.
Tech II Bpo Owner's have everyright in the world to Pricegouge, hey, you earnt it.
You dont have to lie about production times or cost inorder to make the ¨ber profit tho.
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Blueprint
Manufacturing Time ~ 24000
Apocalypse Blueprint
Manufacturing Time ~ 18000
hmmmm...
As soon as i get the build requirements, i will be posting those too. I expect the Requirement for this tech II mod is the tech 1 prototype, not the other tech II mod on the market, i doubt very much the build cost of 100m+ even if it did require an improved II to build.
I've considered your generous offer for covert op cloak II's and i'll be waiting for the Mass produced, revised prices in a month (when i expect the Helios to be finally selling at a decent price)
oh just on a note,
Base mineral prices
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II = 1 785 720
Improved Cloaking Device II = 1 130 360
Prototype Cloaking Device I = 802 680
WTB DREAD GURRISTAS CLOAK ~ 100 mil.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:57:00 -
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but minerla price dosnt take in stupid component price ,)
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:57:00 -
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but minerla price dosnt take in stupid component price ,)
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Porter Hadlend
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Posted - 2004.07.22 03:56:00 -
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As Part of the Jove deal we recently recieved BPCs to make our cloaking modules. - We participated in the BIG Jove Deal. When I assembled the components and minerals for 4 cloaks, it ended up costing me about 2 mil for 4.
Not each. For four. That includes the minerals and components. If you really want I can probably get you the mineral and component reqs.
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Porter Hadlend
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Posted - 2004.07.22 03:56:00 -
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As Part of the Jove deal we recently recieved BPCs to make our cloaking modules. - We participated in the BIG Jove Deal. When I assembled the components and minerals for 4 cloaks, it ended up costing me about 2 mil for 4.
Not each. For four. That includes the minerals and components. If you really want I can probably get you the mineral and component reqs.
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credendo vides - believing is seeing
-=Proud member of the Fountain Alliance=-
Hell Hath No Fury Like A Shattered Star! |
Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:13:00 -
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180 mil for a frigate mod is retarded, I hope no one buys em yet. Wait for someone else to get the BPO for some compititon.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:13:00 -
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180 mil for a frigate mod is retarded, I hope no one buys em yet. Wait for someone else to get the BPO for some compititon.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Vandervecken
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:44:00 -
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the price will come down that is obvious and he says as much, but he has the monopoly atm so he will exploit it as would anyone and as has happened before, look at interceptors, production cost and sell price is uneven, but if you want the toys u have to pay i guess, my intercepter alt is training for covert atm and wont be ready for a couple of weeks so thats when i'll be buying, and as every1 knows the 1st rule of economics is the right price is what people are willing to pay i dont like it but until ccp sort out bpo distribution and the acute inflation problem its going to be the norm.
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Vandervecken
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:44:00 -
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the price will come down that is obvious and he says as much, but he has the monopoly atm so he will exploit it as would anyone and as has happened before, look at interceptors, production cost and sell price is uneven, but if you want the toys u have to pay i guess, my intercepter alt is training for covert atm and wont be ready for a couple of weeks so thats when i'll be buying, and as every1 knows the 1st rule of economics is the right price is what people are willing to pay i dont like it but until ccp sort out bpo distribution and the acute inflation problem its going to be the norm.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:15:00 -
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Lol i can't wait till i kill the first covert ops frigate with this baby fitted on...  
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:15:00 -
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Lol i can't wait till i kill the first covert ops frigate with this baby fitted on...
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: McFly
Originally by: KIATolon
Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
Eaxctly what I thought of when I read this post.
Tho, I think is fist price was 120mil
Yep, it was 120m at first.
"Because they're so expensive to build, and it takes so long to build one."
"And no, I can't tell you what you need to build them. NO, I am not making much profit at all from this."
Now they cost what, 3-5m?
Oh well.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: McFly
Originally by: KIATolon
Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
Eaxctly what I thought of when I read this post.
Tho, I think is fist price was 120mil
Yep, it was 120m at first.
"Because they're so expensive to build, and it takes so long to build one."
"And no, I can't tell you what you need to build them. NO, I am not making much profit at all from this."
Now they cost what, 3-5m?
Oh well.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Lol i can't wait till i kill the first covert ops frigate with this baby fitted on...
Yes, especially when you see it on the list of destroyed items on the Kill Mail
It hurts.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Lol i can't wait till i kill the first covert ops frigate with this baby fitted on...
Yes, especially when you see it on the list of destroyed items on the Kill Mail
It hurts.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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snutt
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:58:00 -
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As pointed out, one probably need a Improved Cloaking device, which is stupidly high overpriced, thus the Covert Ops one is aswell.
Mess with the best, die like the rest 
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snutt
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:58:00 -
[66]
As pointed out, one probably need a Improved Cloaking device, which is stupidly high overpriced, thus the Covert Ops one is aswell.
Mess with the best, die like the rest
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:04:00 -
[67]
Edited by: fairimear on 22/07/2004 10:14:25
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:04:00 -
[68]
Edited by: fairimear on 22/07/2004 10:14:25
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:21:00 -
[69]
this seems to me another case of exploitation and yes it sucks but im not going to pay that much for them and that is my choice. If other people have the isk to waste then go ahead..
Mabye when prices get sane ill consider it
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:21:00 -
[70]
this seems to me another case of exploitation and yes it sucks but im not going to pay that much for them and that is my choice. If other people have the isk to waste then go ahead..
Mabye when prices get sane ill consider it
Death to the Galante |
Spanker
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:31:00 -
[71]
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations - and warping when cloaked is priceless. Since when do manufacturing costs have any bearing on what a product goes for on the market? Any market. I think it's absolutely great that one can charge exactly what one wants for anything in EVE, as long as people buy at that price then why not? It doesn't matter wether it costs 1 ISK or 100,000,000 ISK to produce, it's the demand that sets the price. The latest BMW model doesn't cost $100,000 to build you know.
Personally I'll have to bite the bullet and wait for the prices to come down a bit because 180 mil is too steep for me (would bankrupt me). But most likely not for others - he should be getting enough orders at that price to set him up for life. Which is exactly what should happen if someone has the good fortune of obtaining such a rare blueprint.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:31:00 -
[72]
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations - and warping when cloaked is priceless. Since when do manufacturing costs have any bearing on what a product goes for on the market? Any market. I think it's absolutely great that one can charge exactly what one wants for anything in EVE, as long as people buy at that price then why not? It doesn't matter wether it costs 1 ISK or 100,000,000 ISK to produce, it's the demand that sets the price. The latest BMW model doesn't cost $100,000 to build you know.
Personally I'll have to bite the bullet and wait for the prices to come down a bit because 180 mil is too steep for me (would bankrupt me). But most likely not for others - he should be getting enough orders at that price to set him up for life. Which is exactly what should happen if someone has the good fortune of obtaining such a rare blueprint.
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CloseRage
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:07:00 -
[73]
Edited by: CloseRage on 22/07/2004 11:08:48
Originally by: Spanker
I think it's absolutely great that one can charge exactly what one wants for anything in EVE, as long as people buy at that price then why not? it's the demand that sets the price.
Spoken like a true Caldari
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CloseRage
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:07:00 -
[74]
Edited by: CloseRage on 22/07/2004 11:08:48
Originally by: Spanker
I think it's absolutely great that one can charge exactly what one wants for anything in EVE, as long as people buy at that price then why not? it's the demand that sets the price.
Spoken like a true Caldari
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:21:00 -
[75]
The ONLY benefit i see in this, is that when you treat your frigate carefull... You are never going to lose it.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:21:00 -
[76]
The ONLY benefit i see in this, is that when you treat your frigate carefull... You are never going to lose it.
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Gary Forthy
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:22:00 -
[77]
Why shouldn't he be able to charge what he want? the value of a thing isn't calculated from the production cost, but what it is worth for the person that wants it... if he/she want to pay 180mill, then thats exacly what the item is worth..
Gary
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:22:00 -
[78]
Why shouldn't he be able to charge what he want? the value of a thing isn't calculated from the production cost, but what it is worth for the person that wants it... if he/she want to pay 180mill, then thats exacly what the item is worth..
Gary
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:42:00 -
[79]
Edited by: KIATolon on 22/07/2004 11:43:42
This guy aint the only person whos got one of these BP's. If he is, he wont be for long so be patient & the prices will go down. Look at what Mobile Warp Disruptors were like, they go for a dime a dozen nowaydays. You cant give them away.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:42:00 -
[80]
Edited by: KIATolon on 22/07/2004 11:43:42
This guy aint the only person whos got one of these BP's. If he is, he wont be for long so be patient & the prices will go down. Look at what Mobile Warp Disruptors were like, they go for a dime a dozen nowaydays. You cant give them away.
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Joe
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:56:00 -
[81]
Quote:
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations
Sure, unless your locked, or within 10km or an object
Suicide frigs can allready be used to web & Scramble Targets, while your gang uncloaks and waits out their 20 second sensor recalibration (with prototype cloaks) to gank the Target. Any ship can use a (20 mil) Prototype Cloak and Watch gates, or be used as a Target for their Gang to warp to.
Im not sure about this 'warping while cloaked' thing, i haven't used Covert op cloaks on the test server yet. How exactly do you cloak to warp away tho, if your locked in combat? No cloaking when locked still applys to Covert ops, and frigs usually pop soon after they're locked.
So unless your Covert frig is ecm/web/scrambling 1v1 with an apponent who doesn't have FoF Missles or large Smartbomb, the benifits and features of this mod simply aren't worth 180 mil.
Quote:
Why shouldn't he be able to charge what he want? the value of a thing isn't calculated from the production cost, but what it is worth for the person that wants it... if he/she want to pay 180mill, then thats exacly what the item is worth..
I couldn't agree more, I've bought Loot with mineral values that wouldn't pay for a shuttle, and am quite happy spending Big on rare/novalty items.
however, i think the original post may have been a little deceptive in order to get extra cash (come on, 24 hr build time on a module?) and the seller didn't need to make excuses to why he's charging so high.
I'll buy one when they're 25 mil and Helios are 25 mil
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:56:00 -
[82]
Quote:
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations
Sure, unless your locked, or within 10km or an object
Suicide frigs can allready be used to web & Scramble Targets, while your gang uncloaks and waits out their 20 second sensor recalibration (with prototype cloaks) to gank the Target. Any ship can use a (20 mil) Prototype Cloak and Watch gates, or be used as a Target for their Gang to warp to.
Im not sure about this 'warping while cloaked' thing, i haven't used Covert op cloaks on the test server yet. How exactly do you cloak to warp away tho, if your locked in combat? No cloaking when locked still applys to Covert ops, and frigs usually pop soon after they're locked.
So unless your Covert frig is ecm/web/scrambling 1v1 with an apponent who doesn't have FoF Missles or large Smartbomb, the benifits and features of this mod simply aren't worth 180 mil.
Quote:
Why shouldn't he be able to charge what he want? the value of a thing isn't calculated from the production cost, but what it is worth for the person that wants it... if he/she want to pay 180mill, then thats exacly what the item is worth..
I couldn't agree more, I've bought Loot with mineral values that wouldn't pay for a shuttle, and am quite happy spending Big on rare/novalty items.
however, i think the original post may have been a little deceptive in order to get extra cash (come on, 24 hr build time on a module?) and the seller didn't need to make excuses to why he's charging so high.
I'll buy one when they're 25 mil and Helios are 25 mil
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:19:00 -
[83]
Originally by: KIATolon
Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
Nothing changes.
I remember once seeing Miner-IIs at 5M and thinking "that's cheap" - not sure what price they started at. What are they now? 100k? 50k?
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: KIATolon
Dude, the guy who tried shelfing off Mobile Small Disruptors for 100 mil when they first came out said nearly exactly the same thing as you and we all took turns at laughing at him when the component costs came out.
Nothing changes.
I remember once seeing Miner-IIs at 5M and thinking "that's cheap" - not sure what price they started at. What are they now? 100k? 50k?
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Vyger
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:56:00 -
[85]
Well I guess I should have expected the flames.
I have already acknowledged that the price is very high on two occasions, but at the end of the day an item is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it.
Early adopters get a game advantage but pay a premium to do so. This is just business, deal with it.
I am re-evaluating the situation day by day but expect reductions soon. I am also seriously considering BYoC deals and releasing the build list because its a pain in the bum to spend all my game time sourcing parts. Watch this space for news on that front.
Oh and I'd just like to thank my customers who 'have' bought the device this week. All nice people to do business with, and not a troll amongst them (unlike these forums). I hope you're enjoying your new toy.
ok, you can start up the flames again now, i'm done....
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Vyger
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:56:00 -
[86]
Well I guess I should have expected the flames.
I have already acknowledged that the price is very high on two occasions, but at the end of the day an item is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it.
Early adopters get a game advantage but pay a premium to do so. This is just business, deal with it.
I am re-evaluating the situation day by day but expect reductions soon. I am also seriously considering BYoC deals and releasing the build list because its a pain in the bum to spend all my game time sourcing parts. Watch this space for news on that front.
Oh and I'd just like to thank my customers who 'have' bought the device this week. All nice people to do business with, and not a troll amongst them (unlike these forums). I hope you're enjoying your new toy.
ok, you can start up the flames again now, i'm done....
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:50:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Spanker on 22/07/2004 13:53:33
Originally by: Joe
Quote:
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations
Sure, unless your locked, or within 10km or an object
Suicide frigs can allready be used to web & Scramble Targets, while your gang uncloaks and waits out their 20 second sensor recalibration (with prototype cloaks) to gank the Target. Any ship can use a (20 mil) Prototype Cloak and Watch gates, or be used as a Target for their Gang to warp to.
Im not sure about this 'warping while cloaked' thing, i haven't used Covert op cloaks on the test server yet. How exactly do you cloak to warp away tho, if your locked in combat? No cloaking when locked still applys to Covert ops, and frigs usually pop soon after they're locked.
So unless your Covert frig is ecm/web/scrambling 1v1 with an apponent who doesn't have FoF Missles or large Smartbomb, the benifits and features of this mod simply aren't worth 180 mil.
Yes most of what you say is very true, except the 10km thing - that's only when you start cloaking your ship, when you're already cloaked you can travel within 1 km of any object. Not that you'll be doing much moving at that speed though :p
Anyway, you're thinking along the wrong lines. The actual combatants aren't supposed to use cloaks, it's the guy scouting the enemy positions who benefit from this module. How many are there, how are they positioned and what exactly are they flying? Sure you can do this half-heartedly with a prototype cloak, but then you'd have to be there (at, say, a gate) before the enemy starts amassing as to not alert them even once to your presence. An enemy fleet who sees a scout ups its alertness manyfold.
I'd sell my left arse cheek for the ability to unbeknowst warp to the enemy fleet and act as an eye in the sky, directing fire precisely where it is needed. Sadly though, my left arse cheek isn't worth 180 mil ISK. It is however worth ca 80 mil, and when his cloaks come down to that price, well that's when I'll be playing EVE standing up.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:50:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Spanker on 22/07/2004 13:53:33
Originally by: Joe
Quote:
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations
Sure, unless your locked, or within 10km or an object
Suicide frigs can allready be used to web & Scramble Targets, while your gang uncloaks and waits out their 20 second sensor recalibration (with prototype cloaks) to gank the Target. Any ship can use a (20 mil) Prototype Cloak and Watch gates, or be used as a Target for their Gang to warp to.
Im not sure about this 'warping while cloaked' thing, i haven't used Covert op cloaks on the test server yet. How exactly do you cloak to warp away tho, if your locked in combat? No cloaking when locked still applys to Covert ops, and frigs usually pop soon after they're locked.
So unless your Covert frig is ecm/web/scrambling 1v1 with an apponent who doesn't have FoF Missles or large Smartbomb, the benifits and features of this mod simply aren't worth 180 mil.
Yes most of what you say is very true, except the 10km thing - that's only when you start cloaking your ship, when you're already cloaked you can travel within 1 km of any object. Not that you'll be doing much moving at that speed though :p
Anyway, you're thinking along the wrong lines. The actual combatants aren't supposed to use cloaks, it's the guy scouting the enemy positions who benefit from this module. How many are there, how are they positioned and what exactly are they flying? Sure you can do this half-heartedly with a prototype cloak, but then you'd have to be there (at, say, a gate) before the enemy starts amassing as to not alert them even once to your presence. An enemy fleet who sees a scout ups its alertness manyfold.
I'd sell my left arse cheek for the ability to unbeknowst warp to the enemy fleet and act as an eye in the sky, directing fire precisely where it is needed. Sadly though, my left arse cheek isn't worth 180 mil ISK. It is however worth ca 80 mil, and when his cloaks come down to that price, well that's when I'll be playing EVE standing up.
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.07.22 19:48:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Omnioram
Ill take 10 plz, also if anyone has any harvies for sale im willing to pay 20mill isk each !
If you're anywhere near serious contact me ingame. :)
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.07.22 19:48:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Omnioram
Ill take 10 plz, also if anyone has any harvies for sale im willing to pay 20mill isk each !
If you're anywhere near serious contact me ingame. :)
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:02:00 -
[91]
You see stuff like this in RL too. Just last week I was standing outside the local GM dealer shouting about how greedy they were and that an 04 corvette doesn't cost anywhere near 50k to build. I didn't manage to talk them into selling me one for the build cost (maybe 5 or 6k in raw materials) but they did ask me to leave.
Next I did the same thing with the local Porche and Ferrari dealers but those price gougers wouldn't give me their cars for material costs either. :(
For a while I thought the Dodge dealer would let me have a Viper if I supplied the steel and plastic, but I guess he was just kidding around since he sent me packing with no car as well.
Greedy *#@%&*s!!
:(
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:02:00 -
[92]
You see stuff like this in RL too. Just last week I was standing outside the local GM dealer shouting about how greedy they were and that an 04 corvette doesn't cost anywhere near 50k to build. I didn't manage to talk them into selling me one for the build cost (maybe 5 or 6k in raw materials) but they did ask me to leave.
Next I did the same thing with the local Porche and Ferrari dealers but those price gougers wouldn't give me their cars for material costs either. :(
For a while I thought the Dodge dealer would let me have a Viper if I supplied the steel and plastic, but I guess he was just kidding around since he sent me packing with no car as well.
Greedy *#@%&*s!!
:(
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:37:00 -
[93]
Edited by: flummox on 22/07/2004 20:39:00
Originally by: Bubba Fett
Originally by: Omnioram
Ill take 10 plz, also if anyone has any harvies for sale im willing to pay 20mill isk each !
If you're anywhere near serious contact me ingame. :)
yeah, if you are serious about buying those harvies for 20mil each, then please contact me ingame after you have emptied Bubba Fett's storehouses...
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:37:00 -
[94]
Edited by: flummox on 22/07/2004 20:39:00
Originally by: Bubba Fett
Originally by: Omnioram
Ill take 10 plz, also if anyone has any harvies for sale im willing to pay 20mill isk each !
If you're anywhere near serious contact me ingame. :)
yeah, if you are serious about buying those harvies for 20mil each, then please contact me ingame after you have emptied Bubba Fett's storehouses...
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Saphyre
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:38:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Bubba Fett
You see stuff like this in RL too. Just last week I was standing outside the local GM dealer shouting about how greedy they were and that an 04 corvette doesn't cost anywhere near 50k to build. I didn't manage to talk them into selling me one for the build cost (maybe 5 or 6k in raw materials) but they did ask me to leave.
Next I did the same thing with the local Porche and Ferrari dealers but those price gougers wouldn't give me their cars for material costs either. :(
For a while I thought the Dodge dealer would let me have a Viper if I supplied the steel and plastic, but I guess he was just kidding around since he sent me packing with no car as well.
Greedy *#@%&*s!!
:(
Very well said
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Saphyre
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:38:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Bubba Fett
You see stuff like this in RL too. Just last week I was standing outside the local GM dealer shouting about how greedy they were and that an 04 corvette doesn't cost anywhere near 50k to build. I didn't manage to talk them into selling me one for the build cost (maybe 5 or 6k in raw materials) but they did ask me to leave.
Next I did the same thing with the local Porche and Ferrari dealers but those price gougers wouldn't give me their cars for material costs either. :(
For a while I thought the Dodge dealer would let me have a Viper if I supplied the steel and plastic, but I guess he was just kidding around since he sent me packing with no car as well.
Greedy *#@%&*s!!
:(
Very well said
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Free Man
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:32:00 -
[97]
who care how much its cost to build.
point is : ITS JUST ONLY BPO IN GAME atm
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Free Man
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:32:00 -
[98]
who care how much its cost to build.
point is : ITS JUST ONLY BPO IN GAME atm
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.07.22 22:07:00 -
[99]
tbh - all this bickering about how much it costs means diddly squat, as long as buyers are happy to meet his price then he has a business. Nothing else matters whether you think its is a fair price to you or not.
lets face itr, eve is lacking in isk sinks anyway atm so inflation is actually quite good.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.07.22 22:07:00 -
[100]
tbh - all this bickering about how much it costs means diddly squat, as long as buyers are happy to meet his price then he has a business. Nothing else matters whether you think its is a fair price to you or not.
lets face itr, eve is lacking in isk sinks anyway atm so inflation is actually quite good.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.07.23 04:22:00 -
[101]
very funny all this
the price is for this device is , no doubt about it, unique
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Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.07.23 04:22:00 -
[102]
very funny all this
the price is for this device is , no doubt about it, unique
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Lord Byron - Burnt Head
Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares |
Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.07.23 05:17:00 -
[103]
unique is not the word i had in mind :)
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.07.23 05:17:00 -
[104]
unique is not the word i had in mind :)
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Cocko
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Posted - 2004.07.23 05:24:00 -
[105]
Originally by: KIATolon
Edited by: KIATolon on 22/07/2004 11:43:42
This guy aint the only person whos got one of these BP's. If he is, he wont be for long so be patient & the prices will go down. Look at what Mobile Warp Disruptors were like, they go for a dime a dozen nowaydays. You cant give them away.
You can give a couple to me :) lol.
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Cocko
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Posted - 2004.07.23 05:24:00 -
[106]
Originally by: KIATolon
Edited by: KIATolon on 22/07/2004 11:43:42
This guy aint the only person whos got one of these BP's. If he is, he wont be for long so be patient & the prices will go down. Look at what Mobile Warp Disruptors were like, they go for a dime a dozen nowaydays. You cant give them away.
You can give a couple to me :) lol.
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Na'Axin
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:47:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Spanker
Edited by: Spanker on 22/07/2004 13:53:33
Originally by: Joe
Quote:
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations
Sure, unless your locked, or within 10km or an object
Suicide frigs can allready be used to web & Scramble Targets, while your gang uncloaks and waits out their 20 second sensor recalibration (with prototype cloaks) to gank the Target. Any ship can use a (20 mil) Prototype Cloak and Watch gates, or be used as a Target for their Gang to warp to.
Im not sure about this 'warping while cloaked' thing, i haven't used Covert op cloaks on the test server yet. How exactly do you cloak to warp away tho, if your locked in combat? No cloaking when locked still applys to Covert ops, and frigs usually pop soon after they're locked.
So unless your Covert frig is ecm/web/scrambling 1v1 with an apponent who doesn't have FoF Missles or large Smartbomb, the benifits and features of this mod simply aren't worth 180 mil.
Yes most of what you say is very true, except the 10km thing - that's only when you start cloaking your ship, when you're already cloaked you can travel within 1 km of any object. Not that you'll be doing much moving at that speed though :p
uhm no, not really, you uncloak if u come within 10km of an asteroid, station, gate, missile, virtual belt center, etc... if you don't uncloak then the exploit would still be possible
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Na'Axin
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:47:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Spanker
Edited by: Spanker on 22/07/2004 13:53:33
Originally by: Joe
Quote:
Cloaking is a very cool trick to have up your sleeve in PvP situations
Sure, unless your locked, or within 10km or an object
Suicide frigs can allready be used to web & Scramble Targets, while your gang uncloaks and waits out their 20 second sensor recalibration (with prototype cloaks) to gank the Target. Any ship can use a (20 mil) Prototype Cloak and Watch gates, or be used as a Target for their Gang to warp to.
Im not sure about this 'warping while cloaked' thing, i haven't used Covert op cloaks on the test server yet. How exactly do you cloak to warp away tho, if your locked in combat? No cloaking when locked still applys to Covert ops, and frigs usually pop soon after they're locked.
So unless your Covert frig is ecm/web/scrambling 1v1 with an apponent who doesn't have FoF Missles or large Smartbomb, the benifits and features of this mod simply aren't worth 180 mil.
Yes most of what you say is very true, except the 10km thing - that's only when you start cloaking your ship, when you're already cloaked you can travel within 1 km of any object. Not that you'll be doing much moving at that speed though :p
uhm no, not really, you uncloak if u come within 10km of an asteroid, station, gate, missile, virtual belt center, etc... if you don't uncloak then the exploit would still be possible
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AFortuna
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:50:00 -
[109]
Stop hijacking peoples threads  Mods do your job and delete the flames.
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AFortuna
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:50:00 -
[110]
Stop hijacking peoples threads Mods do your job and delete the flames.
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Fal Aren
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:56:00 -
[111]
This isn't the only one in the game anymore - I know of two others in circulation.
I got told the requirements though, and I can tell you this: They need an improved cloaking device II to build, and approx 1m worth of other bits and pieces.
Improved is worth ~ 80m atm.
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Fal Aren
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:56:00 -
[112]
This isn't the only one in the game anymore - I know of two others in circulation.
I got told the requirements though, and I can tell you this: They need an improved cloaking device II to build, and approx 1m worth of other bits and pieces.
Improved is worth ~ 80m atm.
So what? I dislike signatures... *hmph* |
Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:51:00 -
[113]
Woah! If ppl reacted like this in RL we'd have than damn revolution years ago.
I think we see RL depression syndromes expressed in this game.
This is what free economy means ppl. For better or worse, eve runs on free economy (at least with the tech2).
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:51:00 -
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Woah! If ppl reacted like this in RL we'd have than damn revolution years ago.
I think we see RL depression syndromes expressed in this game.
This is what free economy means ppl. For better or worse, eve runs on free economy (at least with the tech2).
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:28:00 -
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If u decide to do bring own components deals, msg me ingame i'll av some of that
http:/eve-coldfusion.com
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:28:00 -
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If u decide to do bring own components deals, msg me ingame i'll av some of that
http:/eve-coldfusion.com
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:40:00 -
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Someone else already has the bp. There's another post in this forum. Don't think it'll get that much lower though, it requires Cloak II to build, and those go for about 80 mill. Hopefully, more of those bp's will comeout to bring the prices down.
In my opinion though, the cloaks are going throuhg a testing fase now. They still don't know what to do about the exploits in empire space. So untill that works out, I won't be investing in it yet.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:40:00 -
[118]
Someone else already has the bp. There's another post in this forum. Don't think it'll get that much lower though, it requires Cloak II to build, and those go for about 80 mill. Hopefully, more of those bp's will comeout to bring the prices down.
In my opinion though, the cloaks are going throuhg a testing fase now. They still don't know what to do about the exploits in empire space. So untill that works out, I won't be investing in it yet.
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Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.26 12:20:00 -
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I recall something like this happening before. It was when Miner II's came out. They originaly went for 150mil a pop. And one guy owned all the bpo's for them. I also recall m0o delaring war on that corp after how much they cost to make came out. But sadly enough Eve's economy sucks and the good stuff everyone wants is outragusly priced. It's called supply and demand. Get over it. Untill the price drops I'll play with mine on entropy
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Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.26 12:20:00 -
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I recall something like this happening before. It was when Miner II's came out. They originaly went for 150mil a pop. And one guy owned all the bpo's for them. I also recall m0o delaring war on that corp after how much they cost to make came out. But sadly enough Eve's economy sucks and the good stuff everyone wants is outragusly priced. It's called supply and demand. Get over it. Untill the price drops I'll play with mine on entropy
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