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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:10:00 -
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I bought a HG crystal set because the prices are so low atm (if you want a pirate set, the prices are completely wasted atm due to farmers price-dumping a ton of product, run buy!)
Now, here's the thing, I never really did much shield tanking etc and i'm trying to figure out what ship they'd be best used with for high sec WT pvp.
I've tested several setups in eft, nightmare, maelstrom, cnr etc and some have potential, but as I am frankly a massive newbie in this I might aswell pose the question to those among you who have more expirience with this than me.
If you had a HG crystal set and a budget of say upwards of 2b isk to spend on a ship for high sec pvp, what would you pick and how would you fit it?
I'm looking for badass tankers here, as I have rather a tanking fetish but any suggestion is welcome.
Any race/ship size acceptable.
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ArmyOfMe
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 02/01/2009 23:17:55
vargur, nightmare, claymore
Think i coverd them all really.
vargur if you dont face ecm, and of course the nightmare, its VERTICAL \o/
just spend as much isk as you can afford and watch them tank like a mofo, and dont forget blue pills
 Originally by: deadmaus
Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything
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Droshee
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:17:00 -
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Scorpion?
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Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:21:00 -
[4]
rokh with neutron II + 3 or 4 mag stab II
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Count MonteCarlo
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Count MonteCarlo on 02/01/2009 23:24:58
Nightmare, Golem, Maelstrom and ofcourse the Rokh, I'd suggest either a Mael or Rokh considering your budget though
for the rokh
6 neutron II, 2 ion II
x-large II, SBA II, 1 Invul II, 1 Heavy cap booster, 1 Web, and a point
4 mfs II 1 dc II
3 resis rigs
for a maelstrom, same style of fit, if you want to pimp get a dg invul + shield boost amp, and when you know you wont need a web, just fit another invul
I suggest watching this if you're interested in the rokh
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:28:00 -
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Nightmare. 1300 hp shield boost per cycle with crap T2 fit and omgbbqu damage.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Nightmare. 1300 hp shield boost per cycle with crap T2 fit and omgbbqu damage.
Has a serious cap issue though.
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ArmyOfMe
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Zeba
Nightmare. 1300 hp shield boost per cycle with crap T2 fit and omgbbqu damage.
Has a serious cap issue though.
like all other active tanked ships you will need a cap injector
unless you fork up a crapload to buy a gist booster you will simply run into cap issues in all ships mentioned in this thread
Originally by: deadmaus
Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything |
Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:37:00 -
[9]
Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Zeba
Nightmare. 1300 hp shield boost per cycle with crap T2 fit and omgbbqu damage.
Has a serious cap issue though.
like all other active tanked ships you will need a cap injector
unless you fork up a crapload to buy a gist booster you will simply run into cap issues in all ships mentioned in this thread
You forgot about the Falcon. 
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SODJFSDJFOIWEJOJOIEJFOIW
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Posted - 2009.01.03 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Zeba
Nightmare. 1300 hp shield boost per cycle with crap T2 fit and omgbbqu damage.
Has a serious cap issue though.
like all other active tanked ships you will need a cap injector
unless you fork up a crapload to buy a gist booster you will simply run into cap issues in all ships mentioned in this thread
You forgot about the Falcon.
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Psir
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Posted - 2009.01.03 00:37:00 -
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Golem, no doubt.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 00:45:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Psir
Golem, no doubt.
I dont like having merlins jam me kthx.
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Soporo
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.03 00:47:00 -
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Before the torp/cruise nerf I'd have said CNR or Golem or Rattlesnake. You can get sick tanks on all.
No experience with the Nightmare, but it's verticle pimpness which offers all the reason I need to skill toward it.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:11:00 -
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Anyone got any recomended nightmare fits?
I played around with a few but didnt find anything insanely impressive over most the ships I fly now tbh, apart from vertical omgness.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:24:00 -
[15]
Edited by: kublai on 03/01/2009 01:27:09
[Nightmare, New Setup 1]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Domination Warp Disruptor
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Nosferatu II
Heavy Nosferatu II
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
[empty rig slot]
Ideas on improving (and that last rig slot)?
Edit obviously the faction/name of an item will be tweaked depending on price so just use place holders now perhaps with a suggestion for a must have faction version.
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beor oranes
Caldari
Skill Level Six
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:25:00 -
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Watch the videos by Fortune Mitford and Clawknight (both from the corp Annihilate) both of them fly Maelstroms in highsec with a lot of success. HG Crystals would just make the Mael even better than it already is. Rokh with HG Crystals is also nice.
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Xephys
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:40:00 -
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How about this? I think that's not breaking 2b, not too sure. If it's too much, a downgrade wouldn't hurt it too much, I think.
Linkage
Some adjustments can be made, but I think that'll hold up in high sec.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:44:00 -
[18]
[Sleipnir, Kinda Typical setup]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Warp Disruptor II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers
Projectile Ambit Extension I
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3
If you have a tackler take off the scram and slap on an invuln field. If you're really feeling risky, replace the ambit extension with a solidifier rig and get up close with hail (to be used against BC+ sized ships only). That's 700 dps/tank with drones, not including the crystal implants and turret hardwires (both tank and dps are boosted to 800 with implants), all for around 1.4 billion.
...but on a serious note, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xephys
How about this? I think that's not breaking 2b, not too sure. If it's too much, a downgrade wouldn't hurt it too much, I think.
Linkage
Some adjustments can be made, but I think that'll hold up in high sec.
Definately one of the ships i'll look into, I need a bit of training for a mael (I never bothered doing large ac's but meh, just a month or so).
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Khraunus
Amarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.03 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: SODJFSDJFOIWEJOJOIEJFOIW
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Your name, it just broke my forums! WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!?
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2009.01.03 05:51:00 -
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nightmare, rokh, raven
[Nightmare, New Setup x]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
t2 HS
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier (or webb for smaller targets)
Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Domination Warp Disruptor
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Nosferatu II
Heavy Nosferatu II or neut if you plan to take it of docking range
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I t2
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I t2
the rig that makes booster use less cap :P
nosses will be grate for 1vs1 and stuff but neuts will be beter vs smaller ships... allso a webb might be usefull :P
rokh and ravens are win for 1vs1 with crystal set... I know a guy that lost a vindi to that :P
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.03 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas
rokh and ravens are win for 1vs1 with crystal set... I know a guy that lost a vindi to that :P
Yeah for pure lulz fun take a normal raven out to pvp with a hg crystal set in and be amused when just as your opponent thinks he has you into armor you boost right back up to full shield in seconds. Great for those 'Wtf?!' type of replys in local. 
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Xiaodown
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick
[Sleipnir, Kinda Typical setup]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Warp Disruptor II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers
Projectile Ambit Extension I
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3
If you have a tackler take off the scram and slap on an invuln field. If you're really feeling risky, replace the ambit extension with a solidifier rig and get up close with hail (to be used against BC+ sized ships only). That's 700 dps/tank with drones, not including the crystal implants and turret hardwires (both tank and dps are boosted to 800 with implants), all for around 1.4 billion.
I like it, but if you're shoe-horning an XL booster, and have HG crystals, wouldn't you want a shield boost amp? Maybe in place of the sensor booster?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.03 09:42:00 -
[24]
This
I think you are a smart enough guy that you can tweak the fittings below the 2 bil mark.
... err was that 2 bil for the whole ship or just the fittings, not sure I read that part right 
[Nightmare, PeeVeePee]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
maelstrom is pretty sweet too, but the nightmare is VERTICAL!
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ClogMan
Caldari
Unknown-Heroes
Night Sky Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.03 11:44:00 -
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[Maelstrom, Gank Maelstrom]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre II x4
HG set, some +5% dmg to large projectiles, Improved Blue Pill. 2447 DPS burst tank. 1100 DPS damage.
Not that expensive setup, so plenty of room for further pimpage.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 16:01:00 -
[26]
Kind of fallen in love with the maelstrom more and more the more I experiment.
atm (I dont even have large hybrid turret yet ) i'm thinking about this fitting:
[Maelstrom, tank]
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Ogre II x4
Not entirely sure about the rigs etc but it looks pretty promising on the stats.
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DHB WildCat
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 16:15:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
This
I think you are a smart enough guy that you can tweak the fittings below the 2 bil mark.
... err was that 2 bil for the whole ship or just the fittings, not sure I read that part right
[Nightmare, PeeVeePee]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
maelstrom is pretty sweet too, but the nightmare is VERTICAL!
That set-up looks kinda familiar.
Wild
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Rennion
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Posted - 2009.01.03 16:40:00 -
[28]
Tried switching one of those invulns to a shield boost amp on that last mael setup?
Not at eft now to do any warrioring but iirc when you use rig slots for added resists the 2nd boost amp provides more tank than the second invlun. Also epic rep amounts are fun.
I might be wrong though and the trade off is slightly reduced EHP. If I am then 
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 16:47:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Rennion
Tried switching one of those invulns to a shield boost amp on that last mael setup?
Not at eft now to do any warrioring but iirc when you use rig slots for added resists the 2nd boost amp provides more tank than the second invlun. Also epic rep amounts are fun.
I might be wrong though and the trade off is slightly reduced EHP. If I am then
It does nerf resists quite harsh i'm afraid, the rig slots can't make up for it
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Xephys
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Posted - 2009.01.03 18:15:00 -
[30]
Originally by: kublai
Kind of fallen in love with the maelstrom more and more the more I experiment.
atm (I dont even have large hybrid turret yet ) i'm thinking about this fitting:
[Maelstrom, tank]
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery, Republic Fleet EMP L
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Ogre II x4
Not entirely sure about the rigs etc but it looks pretty promising on the stats.
Yeah, that looks pretty good, but I'm pretty sure Cald Navy booster sucks and a Pith A/B would be much better, even for the pricetag. Also, the faction guns really aren't worth it, trust me on that.
I'm guessing I know where you got this budget from. ;)
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 18:21:00 -
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I cannot be seen on a loss mail, with t1 guns!
I have a reputation, I have style good sir.
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Xephys
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Posted - 2009.01.03 18:25:00 -
[32]
Didn't say T1 guns, T2 guns are = to faction guns and much less expensive. ;)
Fake edit: Aah yes, the skills. Well, train for T2 asap!
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.03 18:31:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Xephys
Didn't say T1 guns, T2 guns are = to faction guns and much less expensive. ;)
Fake edit: Aah yes, the skills. Well, train for T2 asap!
Can barely shield tank as it is, that first :P
Then t2 <3
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.04 11:54:00 -
[34]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
That set-up looks kinda familiar.
Wild
it should  My set up was almost the same damn thing, but hey I'll never get credit for that now.
as for the maelstrom setup, I would keep it like it is, only swap the kinetic rig for a Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II, that and I'm not sure about the pdu, but what else to put in that slot?
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Ralarina
Caldari
Vivicide
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Posted - 2009.01.04 12:03:00 -
[35]
Originally by: kublai
I bought a HG crystal set because the prices are so low atm (if you want a pirate set, the prices are completely wasted atm due to farmers price-dumping a ton of product, run buy!)
Now, here's the thing, I never really did much shield tanking etc and i'm trying to figure out what ship they'd be best used with for high sec WT pvp.
I've tested several setups in eft, nightmare, maelstrom, cnr etc and some have potential, but as I am frankly a massive newbie in this I might aswell pose the question to those among you who have more expirience with this than me.
If you had a HG crystal set and a budget of say upwards of 2b isk to spend on a ship for high sec pvp, what would you pick and how would you fit it?
I'm looking for badass tankers here, as I have rather a tanking fetish but any suggestion is welcome.
Any race/ship size acceptable.
The Rohk's a nice one. Faction fit as you see necessary:
2x Ion Blaster Cannon II
6x Neutron Blaster Cannon II
1x SBA II
1x XL Shield Booster II
1x Invulnerability Field II
1x Capacitor Booster II
1x Stasis Webifier II
1x Warp Disruptor II
4x Magnetic Field Stabalizer II
1x Damage Control System II
2x Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I (II for taste)
1x Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I (II for taste)
5x Hammerhead II
Works nicely enough.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.04 12:04:00 -
[36]
Edited by: P''uck on 04/01/2009 12:05:32
Originally by: kublai
gief ideas
I would definetly pick something that has a shield boost bonus AND some medslots for boost amps - that way you multiply the multipliers with the crystal set up to omfgwtfbbq tanking power. That's why I wouldnt pick a rokh, for instance.
First ship that comes to mind is the maelstrom - which I hate with a passion.
Low dps, zero maneuverability, looks like an anorexic armadillo. But it qualifies for what you wanna do - and if you want to blow 2bil on the ship you have some financial headroom for nice faction amps/invuls and maybe a booster.
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Xephys
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.04 13:16:00 -
[37]
Originally by: P'uck
Edited by: P''uck on 04/01/2009 12:18:25
Originally by: kublai
gief ideas
I would definetly pick something that has a shield boost bonus AND some medslots for boost amps - that way you multiply the multipliers with the crystal set up to omfgwtfbbq tanking power. That's why I wouldnt pick a rokh, for instance.
First ship that comes to mind is the maelstrom - which I hate with a passion.
Low dps, zero maneuverability, looks like an anorexic armadillo. But it qualifies for what you wanna do - and if you want to blow 2bil on the ship you have some financial headroom for nice faction amps/invuls and maybe a pith booster.
Low DPS? Wut? The setup I made does over 1k DPS, and that's without faction Gyros. Would do even more with hail. I don't know where you're getting low DPS from. ;)
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Trader20
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Posted - 2009.01.04 14:00:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Trader20 on 04/01/2009 14:05:48
CNR
7x Siege II
1x Caldari Navy XL-Booster
3x Caldari Shield Boost Amps
2x Caldari Navy Invuls
3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
1x CPU II
1X PDS II
Rigs: 3x CDOS I
Drones TP drones or ogres
DPS: 1493 overloaded: 1723
Tank: 2959 overloaded: 4485
Theirs your badass tank only last 48 sec though, and it only cost a few bill.
Edit: Or if you want ur tank to last 2 min replace CDOS I
with CDCS I but you will only be tanking 1730 overloaded 2619
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.04 14:55:00 -
[39]
Edited by: P''uck on 04/01/2009 14:57:26
Originally by: Xephys
Low DPS? Wut? The setup I made does over 1k DPS, and that's without faction Gyros. Would do even more with hail. I don't know where you're getting low DPS from. ;)
That's because I generally tend to ignore the fact that you could actually stick ACs on the mael, because it handles so unbelievably sluggish
But yeah, actually I'm surprised you can get even close to 1k out of the mael, without faction stuff.
ah yeah, the ogres... I probably wouldnt clog up the drone bay with 4 heavies, but thats just me.
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Invertibrate
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:20:00 -
[40]
Originally by: P'uck
I would definetly pick something that has a shield boost bonus AND some medslots for boost amps - that way you multiply the multipliers with the crystal set up to omfgwtfbbq tanking power. That's why I wouldnt pick a rokh, for instance.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.06 15:59:00 -
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My shield tanking adventure
I thought about the 2b budget.
Then I figured "meh, not like it's my isk anyway".
I shall make a bonny loss mail some day.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.06 16:38:00 -
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I swear my 1st instinct was this post was an elaborate plan to see what kind of ships to look for scamming. 
That said - if I had a couple billion to spend on tank alone....
Rokh
3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control II
Damage Control II
Domination 100MN MWD (for cap penalty savings!)
True Sansha Warp Scram/Disruptor - your choice
2x Caldari Navy/Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field
Pithi X-Type X-Large Shield Booster (Gist are afar more cap stable - but pithi rep faster and provide a better spike tank - its less desirable to mission runners so its a lot cheaper too)
Heavy Cap Injector II
8x Neutron Blaster Cannon II
3x Core Defence Field Extender II
Splurge go for T2 rigs.
Overheating for a little over a minute and you'll tank 2779 dps.
The beauty though - isn't that number, its the 132,000 effective HP (150,000 when you overheat the invuls).
If you get blobbed - you should be able to de-agress - tank - then dock and laugh.
Other people might get you a higher DPS tanked number - but they wont have the matching effective HP to survive most empire blobs.
Plus a Rokh doesn't scream I'M LOADED WITH BILLIONS - BLOB ME - like a Nightmare/CNR/Golem, etc do.
You can go all out and pimp out the T2 gear I included - I was just focusing on tank.
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Xephys
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.06 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Xephys on 06/01/2009 17:05:47
Originally by: kublai
My shield tanking adventure
I thought about the 2b budget.
Then I figured "meh, not like it's my isk anyway".
I shall make a bonny loss mail some day.
That looks so freakin' sexy, nice to see you went with it. :)
edit: I wanna hear about any fights you've had with that beast, by the way.
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Compendium
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Posted - 2009.01.06 18:55:00 -
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Things would be cheaper if you stayed away from the Caldari Navy items. Dread Guristas is cheaper for the same thing, typically.
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