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KiaTader
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: KiaTader on 04/01/2009 00:03:18
Has CCP ever wondered what it would be like for them if they earned twice as much and be 10x as successful as now if only they didn't cater to such a small market?
Do you think CCP would ever give in to the hunger for a faster car irl, or a few more ho ho ho's at christmas by making the game more casual friendly and safe so they get more subscribers, and in that turn, more money for their pockets? I'm talking from 300.000 subscribers to 2mil+ !
"Well done dev team, we're earning 10x as much now! Here's a raise in your pay and a big fat bonus!"
/discuss
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:05:00 -
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This is probably the most idiotic pointless post i have ever skimmed... ________________ Dark Angel Battalion
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader Edited by: KiaTader on 04/01/2009 00:03:18
Has CCP ever wondered what it would be like for them if they earned twice as much and be 10x as successful as now if only they didn't cater to such a small market?
Do you think CCP would ever give in to the hunger for a faster car irl, or a few more ho ho ho's at christmas by making the game more casual friendly and safe so they get more subscribers, and in that turn, more money for their pockets? I'm talking from 300.000 subscribers to 2mil+ !
"Well done dev team, we're earning 10x as much now! Here's a raise in your pay and a big fat bonus!"
/discuss
Too many online games have tried going "large" and "mainstream" only to end up smaller than EVE online, or even closing down. Age of Conan and Tabula Rasa are just two of them. I think CCP prefers to play by the cards they have outlined for the game, and keep to their set model, rather than trying something stupid.
EVE is popular among those who play it because of how EVE is today! Mess it up and you might end with a boost, which will be a short lived one. Just like Age of Conan.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:24:00 -
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It would be awesome.
let's make EVE less secure and see if it works. -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Infinity Ziona
Extortive
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:25:00 -
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I think it will happen eventually. CCP will get an offer for merge or buyout that'll be too good to refuse and then the game will take off.
I wish they'd put up a RP server tbh. Ganking Buddhist Nun |

Writ Insand
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:26:00 -
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No. Fear will keep them in line. The fear of the self-destructive power of star Wars Galaxies!
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:28:00 -
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just look what happened to conan
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Yelan Zhou
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C just look what happened to conan
What happened to Conan?
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yelan Zhou
Originally by: Armoured C just look what happened to conan
What happened to Conan?
level 20 appreantly
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ingenting
20th Legion Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: ingenting on 04/01/2009 00:36:56 LOL yeah just look at SWG _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu *BAAOOM*... Told you, newb." |

Ticondrius
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:40:00 -
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I sense a wonderfully subtle dig at the lack of multiple servers for live play.
Go back to WoW, troll, they have plenty of realms. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PROPOSAL: Chaos Incarnate's Face MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls |

KiaTader
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:44:00 -
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What makes you think I'm a troll. I have other intentions with this thread then just trolling.
Back to topic, does anyone think ccp is already moving this way? What would the wide consequences be if they actually moved to a more casual friendly game. Sure you, your friends and a few more in 0.0 will leave, but how many new players would stay? If the total outcome would mean more subscribers, and a bigger revenue, why would CCP care if they lose 200 old players? In the end, those players are merely statistics and bank transfers.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader
Stuff
/discuss
Isn't this what the new CCP MMO is all about? Doing a mainstream MMO, using the whine threads posted in EVE forums as a guide, that tells how to cater to the needs of the people who will never play a game like this.
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Berious
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:47:00 -
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If Eve gets WoWified then why play Eve? WoW is much more polished and has way better PVE content.
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader Back to topic, does anyone think ccp is already moving this way? What would the wide consequences be if they actually moved to a more casual friendly game.
an eternal september. 'nuff said. -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:50:00 -
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if you are refering to having multiple server it aint happening
ccp are working on upgrading the single server not upgrading to multiple ones
it would ruin eve go away
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KiaTader
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:52:00 -
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I never said anything about multiple 'server worlds'. Eve is too big to have that. It's the whole essence of eve to be single cluster.
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Gonada
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader What makes you think I'm a troll. I have other intentions with this thread then just trolling.
Back to topic, does anyone think ccp is already moving this way? What would the wide consequences be if they actually moved to a more casual friendly game. Sure you, your friends and a few more in 0.0 will leave, but how many new players would stay? If the total outcome would mean more subscribers, and a bigger revenue, why would CCP care if they lose 200 old players? In the end, those players are merely statistics and bank transfers.
no, no, and no.
you are the typical person that is destroying online games nowdays.
Come up with a lewt name, talk big and brassy , but have no balls to stomach actual gameplay that matters. You'r the kind of person that has ruined every game to date, and you and your legions of lazy minded, balless players are whats putting the gaming indusry in the toilet.
you are nothing but a troll, and a lame one at that. Go back to your WoWified brand of gaming. I cant actually push you into traffic, but read my sig, and understand how much we dislike people like you.
Please, jump into traffic
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader Back to topic, does anyone think ccp is already moving this way? What would the wide consequences be if they actually moved to a more casual friendly game. Sure you, your friends and a few more in 0.0 will leave, but how many new players would stay? If the total outcome would mean more subscribers, and a bigger revenue, why would CCP care if they lose 200 old players? In the end, those players are merely statistics and bank transfers.
Wrong...
Most older players have multiple accounts, and represent steady, long term income for CCP. Newer, more casual players, will generally not last long at all. The average for new players joining will be seven months. Also, more casual players == less interesting player generated content, ergo, boredom sets in.
Here's a good article explaining some of this for you.
Personally, I think Eve is already pretty casual player friednly. It certainly requires less time commitment than almost all other MMOs.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader I never said anything about multiple 'server worlds'. Eve is too big to have that. It's the whole essence of eve to be single cluster.
Then say what exactly would you change to get those massive subsciption numbers? It isn't worth talking about this, since we don't have any content to argue about. I think it is much easier to imagine, when you don't have to go in to any details. Unfortunately CCP doesn't have that luxury.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: KiaTader Edited by: KiaTader on 04/01/2009 00:03:18
Has CCP ever wondered what it would be like for them if they earned twice as much and be 10x as successful as now if only they didn't cater to such a small market?
They earn more than twice as much and is probably 10x as successfull as when they started already. 
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Too many online games have tried going "large" and "mainstream" only to end up smaller than EVE online, or even closing down. Age of Conan and Tabula Rasa are just two of them. I think CCP prefers to play by the cards they have outlined for the game, and keep to their set model, rather than trying something stupid.
EVE is popular among those who play it because of how EVE is today! Mess it up and you might end with a boost, which will be a short lived one. Just like Age of Conan.
This.
CCP would have to sacrifice core elements of EVE. Non-consensual PvP and single server.
CCP knows better, thus, it won't happen. Most players which apreciate this game for what it is would quit. And, unfortunatelly, there would be no other compareable game for those players.
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Infinity Ziona
Extortive
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:03:00 -
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Casualifying Patch.
1. New servers added. 2. Re-implemented skill-point gain through in game actions. 3. Reduced health points, cost of player owned stations and damage of POS guns significantly. 4. Removed restrictions on restricted ships and modules in low and high sec space. All ships and modules will now be able to be used 0.0, low sec and high sec space. 5. Players new to the game will now be able to fly all ships and use all modules upon logging in. Related skills learned will improve their effectiveness significantly when learned.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:03:00 -
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The people who like EVE Online as it is now will leave faster then you can say "SWG Pre CU-NGE" and the WoW kiddies will go back to play WoW soon after ...
EVE Online is the second largest Premium MMORPG in the west, only surpassed by WoW, I doubt CCP is willing to give that up.
And no, I don't think CCP is dumbing down EVE Online, I have seen EVE Online improve over the years, it has only gotten better.
Newbies have it easier now, but not because the game has been dumbed down, but because of a better tutorial, more starting SP's, more content ( missions ), easier choice of skills ( certificates ), less bugs, more people ( faster cluster ), Factional Warfare ( somewhere to start with PvP ), etc.
Cyberwiz aka CyberGh0st aka Mentakh Active @ EvE Online Favorites : DAoC-SI/SWG Pre CU-NGE/Ryzom Retired @ WoW/LOTRO/WAR/Planetside/Entropia/UO/Lineage/GW/EQ/Jumpgate/Dofus/AoC |

Guilliman R
Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Then say what exactly would you change to get those massive subsciption numbers? It isn't worth talking about this, since we don't have any content to argue about. I think it is much easier to imagine, when you don't have to go in to any details. Unfortunately CCP doesn't have that luxury.
In essence, PVP, or rather safety from PvP. It will all boil down to this. High sec, safe sec. That's basically my point. Will, would or is it happening. What if it did happen. What if the fundamental basics of eve, slightly altered. Death of eve, hardly. Change, yes, but at what costs. If played right, revenue will go up, if done wrong, it might go up slightly, or down. Could go both ways. ___
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Ehn Roh
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Ehn Roh on 04/01/2009 01:06:40
Originally by: KiaTader Edited by: KiaTader on 04/01/2009 00:03:18
Has CCP ever wondered what it would be like for them if they earned twice as much and be 10x as successful as now if only they didn't cater to such a small market?
Do you think CCP would ever give in to the hunger for a faster car irl, or a few more ho ho ho's at christmas by making the game more casual friendly and safe so they get more subscribers, and in that turn, more money for their pockets? I'm talking from 300.000 subscribers to 2mil+ !
"Well done dev team, we're earning 10x as much now! Here's a raise in your pay and a big fat bonus!"
/discuss
Sure, they could do that... and also watch their current die-hard base leave in droves, to be replaced by more casaual players that might or might not stay. CCP has been successful doing what they're doing, and there is plenty of content for the more casual strain of EVE pilot in hisec.
The risk, conflict, and brutality is what draws the current pilots to the game.
AoC went through a positively MASSIVE exodus, about 1/2 their subsriber base, after efforts to make their PvP servers "friendlier". All the more pointless since carebears already had three, yes THREE, other server types to choose from at the time.
It wasn't until I left EVE for a while that I realized how well CCP had managed to satisfy less-"hardcore" pilots without compromising their game vision.
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Yarrmageddon
Gallente Aeon Of Strife R.U.R.
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:06:00 -
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N othing could make them turn the game into a WoW-clone, I am sure. L earn to play rather than leading devs into temptation. P eace out.
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Ghost Goat
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:07:00 -
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it will happen as soon as CCP infrastructure can handle it .
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Guilliman R Edited by: Guilliman R on 04/01/2009 01:07:26
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Then say what exactly would you change to get those massive subsciption numbers? It isn't worth talking about this, since we don't have any content to argue about. I think it is much easier to imagine, when you don't have to go in to any details. Unfortunately CCP doesn't have that luxury.
In essence, PVP, or rather safety from PvP. It will all boil down to this. High sec, safe sec. That's basically his point i think.What if it did happen. What if the fundamental basics of eve, slightly altered. Death of eve, hardly. Change, yes, but at what costs. If played right, income will go up, if done wrong, it might go up slightly, or down. Could go both ways.
Go back to wow.
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KiaTader
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Posted - 2009.01.04 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Guilliman R
In essence, PVP, or rather safety from PvP. It will all boil down to this. High sec, safe sec. That's basically his point i think.What if it did happen. What if the fundamental basics of eve, slightly altered. Death of eve, hardly. Change, yes, but at what costs. If played right, income will go up, if done wrong, it might go up slightly, or down. Could go both ways.
Sort of yes, Industry, missions, pvp, faction warfare, starting skill points,suicide ganking nurf, it's all going that way.
In the end you will get two server worlds. One is called low and null sec, and the other is called high sec. PVP, PVE. Both connected, but yet not.
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