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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.25 06:04:00 -
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TomB...
Some cruisers still need a looking at.
The Bellicose needs a 4th launcher slot so people may use it over the caracal, as a slightly weaker but faster missile ship.
The Celestis needs something that I really dont know...
As for the osprey and scythe. The sythe is described as a combat cruiser and thus I think it should reflect that. Instead of the mining bonus for the Scythe, a projectile damage boost would be nice. But something that would make people use it more often.
Osprey, as some others have said, will be TOO good at mining. I say a 15% percent boost would be more balanced.
Other than that I like the proposed changes. The Maller will benefit from its new bonus, I really like the Arbitrator bonus as well.
As for the Thorax: I LOVE the 'nerf'. Thorax did need a bit of a nerf, but the thing is... the Thorax is the newest Gallente ship. Gallente ship designers were trying to reduce the reliance on drones and more on the abilities of their ships. So they made the Thorax and Megathron, which (now) will focus more on blasting enemies away with guns, while still having SOME drones.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.25 06:04:00 -
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TomB...
Some cruisers still need a looking at.
The Bellicose needs a 4th launcher slot so people may use it over the caracal, as a slightly weaker but faster missile ship.
The Celestis needs something that I really dont know...
As for the osprey and scythe. The sythe is described as a combat cruiser and thus I think it should reflect that. Instead of the mining bonus for the Scythe, a projectile damage boost would be nice. But something that would make people use it more often.
Osprey, as some others have said, will be TOO good at mining. I say a 15% percent boost would be more balanced.
Other than that I like the proposed changes. The Maller will benefit from its new bonus, I really like the Arbitrator bonus as well.
As for the Thorax: I LOVE the 'nerf'. Thorax did need a bit of a nerf, but the thing is... the Thorax is the newest Gallente ship. Gallente ship designers were trying to reduce the reliance on drones and more on the abilities of their ships. So they made the Thorax and Megathron, which (now) will focus more on blasting enemies away with guns, while still having SOME drones.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.28 00:26:00 -
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My thoughts on the new thorax bonus. I disagree with the mwd bonus. MWD's are still a pain in the ass to use because they take away 25% cap. I think taking away the sig radius and cap penalty for the mwd for the thorax would be the better option.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.28 00:26:00 -
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My thoughts on the new thorax bonus. I disagree with the mwd bonus. MWD's are still a pain in the ass to use because they take away 25% cap. I think taking away the sig radius and cap penalty for the mwd for the thorax would be the better option.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.28 00:39:00 -
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Even better, give a tracking bonus instead. The Thorax already does good with cap, you dont need to run it constantly.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.28 00:39:00 -
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Even better, give a tracking bonus instead. The Thorax already does good with cap, you dont need to run it constantly.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.30 08:52:00 -
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The Thorax second bonus is silly, you can run a MWD for a pretty long time on a Thorax already. Its a useless bonus. Please, change it to a rate of fire bonus for hybrids, OR take away the cap, shield, and signature radius penalties for the thorax.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.30 08:52:00 -
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The Thorax second bonus is silly, you can run a MWD for a pretty long time on a Thorax already. Its a useless bonus. Please, change it to a rate of fire bonus for hybrids, OR take away the cap, shield, and signature radius penalties for the thorax.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.30 09:14:00 -
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I use a punisher sometimes... pretty decent for draining cap from frigs or smartbombing, but its not fast enough to intercept.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.30 09:14:00 -
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I use a punisher sometimes... pretty decent for draining cap from frigs or smartbombing, but its not fast enough to intercept.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.02 01:49:00 -
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Please reconsider the MWD bonus for the Thorax. Its not helpful at all... and you're already nerfing it.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.02 01:49:00 -
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Please reconsider the MWD bonus for the Thorax. Its not helpful at all... and you're already nerfing it.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.04 10:37:00 -
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Maller's going to be okay now, IMO...
But please, again, reconsider the Thorax second bonus. Its already got enough cap! It doesnt need more... and what about the Thorax people that dont use a MWD? They dont get a bonus...  Although I use blasters on mine, but I definitely have enough cap. How about a drone bonus? For medium drones... or a tracking speed bonus. Anything. 
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.04 10:37:00 -
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Maller's going to be okay now, IMO...
But please, again, reconsider the Thorax second bonus. Its already got enough cap! It doesnt need more... and what about the Thorax people that dont use a MWD? They dont get a bonus... Although I use blasters on mine, but I definitely have enough cap. How about a drone bonus? For medium drones... or a tracking speed bonus. Anything.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:04:00 -
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I'm worried about Celestis, Arbitrator, and Augoror not being used still. Bellicose too.
Bellicose needs a boost in drone space, I think. Boost from 800 to 1000.
Celestis.. I'm not sure.
Arbitrator definitely needs something. Change the cap reduction on lasers to something involving the drones or armor.
Augoror? Change the cap bonus into a damage bonus for lasers.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:04:00 -
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I'm worried about Celestis, Arbitrator, and Augoror not being used still. Bellicose too.
Bellicose needs a boost in drone space, I think. Boost from 800 to 1000.
Celestis.. I'm not sure.
Arbitrator definitely needs something. Change the cap reduction on lasers to something involving the drones or armor.
Augoror? Change the cap bonus into a damage bonus for lasers.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.09 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 09/08/2004 14:02:43
We'll wait and see about the Maller. But I think the bonus is okay...
I'm thinking about the Augoror being a cheap support cruiser in the future. It'll have more armor than a Maller at max skills for both of the ships. Its damage will leave alot of wanting, of course. People may use it to give cap or shield support to a friendly battleship.
But the Arbitrator needs to drop the laser bonus, and get, instead, an armor bonus. I'm thinking the same bonus as the maller.
Celestis being a long range sniper boat? Sounds nice... but will people use it over the Moa?
Bellicose for missile spammage and frigate support. As I said earlier, it needs its dronebay boosted to 1000. It seems like its a jack-of-all-trades which is useful for supporting a frigate wing. But again... will people use it...? For the Optimal Range bonus just now, I think its not a good idea. The Bellicose description says it is a frigate support cruiser. And the optimal range bonus only really applies to artillery. I suggest its removed in favor of the explosive missile damage OR a projectile tracking speed bonus. Thinking more, the tracking speed bonus would be even better, it would help autocannons track frigates.
Other than that I like the changes, TomB.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.09 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 09/08/2004 14:02:43
We'll wait and see about the Maller. But I think the bonus is okay...
I'm thinking about the Augoror being a cheap support cruiser in the future. It'll have more armor than a Maller at max skills for both of the ships. Its damage will leave alot of wanting, of course. People may use it to give cap or shield support to a friendly battleship.
But the Arbitrator needs to drop the laser bonus, and get, instead, an armor bonus. I'm thinking the same bonus as the maller.
Celestis being a long range sniper boat? Sounds nice... but will people use it over the Moa?
Bellicose for missile spammage and frigate support. As I said earlier, it needs its dronebay boosted to 1000. It seems like its a jack-of-all-trades which is useful for supporting a frigate wing. But again... will people use it...? For the Optimal Range bonus just now, I think its not a good idea. The Bellicose description says it is a frigate support cruiser. And the optimal range bonus only really applies to artillery. I suggest its removed in favor of the explosive missile damage OR a projectile tracking speed bonus. Thinking more, the tracking speed bonus would be even better, it would help autocannons track frigates.
Other than that I like the changes, TomB.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.09 14:42:00 -
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The Rupture bonus is fine. The Tempest has those bonuses, and look at it now, it STILL sucks, but lets not get into that.
The Rupture, sure, it will do good damage with projectiles. What else would you propose? Optimal range? No. It would be useless for autocannons.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.09 14:42:00 -
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The Rupture bonus is fine. The Tempest has those bonuses, and look at it now, it STILL sucks, but lets not get into that.
The Rupture, sure, it will do good damage with projectiles. What else would you propose? Optimal range? No. It would be useless for autocannons.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.09 23:39:00 -
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Thorax IS the gallente drone ship. read its description.
I'd like to make a comment on the arbitrator. I think it needs a bonus to replace the 10% reduction in laser cap usage, as it only has 2 turrets. I'm thinking either the same bonus as the augoror, or the same bonus as the Maller. Its description labels it as an armored drone carrier, so it would fit the description, in addition to giving it some use. Its not doing alot of damage at all, giving it some defensive options would be a great idea, though. It sounds to me like its a poor offensive cruiser but can take alot of punishment. So I'm thinking either 5% boost to all armor resistances, or 10% boost to max armor. In addition to the +1 drone control.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.09 23:39:00 -
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Thorax IS the gallente drone ship. read its description.
I'd like to make a comment on the arbitrator. I think it needs a bonus to replace the 10% reduction in laser cap usage, as it only has 2 turrets. I'm thinking either the same bonus as the augoror, or the same bonus as the Maller. Its description labels it as an armored drone carrier, so it would fit the description, in addition to giving it some use. Its not doing alot of damage at all, giving it some defensive options would be a great idea, though. It sounds to me like its a poor offensive cruiser but can take alot of punishment. So I'm thinking either 5% boost to all armor resistances, or 10% boost to max armor. In addition to the +1 drone control.
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