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Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 10:41:00 - [1] I don't like the nerf of the thorax drone bay, it's way too much. Make second bonus +1 drone controled per lvl and reduce drone bay to 1500, or 1000 drone bay but second bonus will be drone dmg. Description on Thorax says that it should be able to fight several opponents simuntaniusly? Then why not make it so.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 10:41:00 - [2] I don't like the nerf of the thorax drone bay, it's way too much. Make second bonus +1 drone controled per lvl and reduce drone bay to 1500, or 1000 drone bay but second bonus will be drone dmg. Description on Thorax says that it should be able to fight several opponents simuntaniusly? Then why not make it so.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 11:06:00 - [3] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Quote: People Worried about Drone Bay decrease The decrease of the drone bay doesn't hurt the Thorax significanly. It makes it a bit weaker vs Frigates but that is all. Thorax damage output is still the best of any cruiser. Even with a drone bay of 0 it still retains this position. Mining output remains the same. Slightly less defence during solo mining now. Cruisers like the Vexor and the mining cruisers can become more usefull thanks to changes such as these. The main problem of the Thorax is it's inability to face off effectively in PvP vs other cruiser and BS given the current situation. The cruisers that are used in PvP now rely almost 90% of the time on Speed and Missiles. A tactic that works vs BS and cruisers. More dronebay or less dronebay the Thorax won't benefit or lose. What it needs is a speed or speed module related bonus. It's not make any differens now, but late when drone patch cames up, it will strike thorax very much.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 11:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Quote: People Worried about Drone Bay decrease The decrease of the drone bay doesn't hurt the Thorax significanly. It makes it a bit weaker vs Frigates but that is all. Thorax damage output is still the best of any cruiser. Even with a drone bay of 0 it still retains this position. Mining output remains the same. Slightly less defence during solo mining now. Cruisers like the Vexor and the mining cruisers can become more usefull thanks to changes such as these. The main problem of the Thorax is it's inability to face off effectively in PvP vs other cruiser and BS given the current situation. The cruisers that are used in PvP now rely almost 90% of the time on Speed and Missiles. A tactic that works vs BS and cruisers. More dronebay or less dronebay the Thorax won't benefit or lose. What it needs is a speed or speed module related bonus. It's not make any differens now, but late when drone patch cames up, it will strike thorax very much.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 11:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Terradoct It's not make any differens now, but late when drone patch cames up, it will strike thorax very much. On the contrary. If Mediums and Scouts become more usefull after the drone changes. But not forget that we have only two types of medium drone - Infiltrator(EM) and Hamerhead(THERM) no explosive dmg drone and no kinetik. That's very limits thorax very much.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 11:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Terradoct It's not make any differens now, but late when drone patch cames up, it will strike thorax very much. On the contrary. If Mediums and Scouts become more usefull after the drone changes. But not forget that we have only two types of medium drone - Infiltrator(EM) and Hamerhead(THERM) no explosive dmg drone and no kinetik. That's very limits thorax very much.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 15:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Joshua Foiritan Edited by: Joshua Foiritan on 23/07/2004 15:31:54 WTT : My Thorax for your Vexor + some cash. Wasted 7 mill on nothing, bah... same, I bought it not long ago, now traing my skills to be able to fly it, and now what? I only can load max 10 Med drone, of 2 types to chouse. Tomb PLEASE don't nefr it so much. If you still intend to reducing to 1000 drone bay on Thorax, then add second bonus for medium drone dmg, and add 2 more types of medium drone ( with explousev and kinetic dmg )
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.07.23 15:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Joshua Foiritan Edited by: Joshua Foiritan on 23/07/2004 15:31:54 WTT : My Thorax for your Vexor + some cash. Wasted 7 mill on nothing, bah... same, I bought it not long ago, now traing my skills to be able to fly it, and now what? I only can load max 10 Med drone, of 2 types to chouse. Tomb PLEASE don't nefr it so much. If you still intend to reducing to 1000 drone bay on Thorax, then add second bonus for medium drone dmg, and add 2 more types of medium drone ( with explousev and kinetic dmg )
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.08.05 07:50:00 - [9] Originally by: Soulplay Thorax is too powerful now. No other cruiser can come even close to it. Amarr cruisers are pretty useless, Minmatar cruisers are kind good but projectil weapon damage is must less than blaster/railgun due to tracking problem. You need either give all cruisers at least 1k drone space or reduce Thorax drone space by no less than 500. Otherwise, people will pick caldri and minmatar for frigates, Gallente for Cruiser. Amarr crusiers are seriously under powered, Caldri cruisers are bit better but none of the cruisers can stand a chance against Thorax. This is not balance at all. You are forgeting that to kill something thorax should make it very close to target. When he is close then victim's cruiser is dead, but this only IF thorax get's very close and this IF is a balance.
Terradoct	Posted - 2004.08.05 07:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Soulplay Thorax is too powerful now. No other cruiser can come even close to it. Amarr cruisers are pretty useless, Minmatar cruisers are kind good but projectil weapon damage is must less than blaster/railgun due to tracking problem. You need either give all cruisers at least 1k drone space or reduce Thorax drone space by no less than 500. Otherwise, people will pick caldri and minmatar for frigates, Gallente for Cruiser. Amarr crusiers are seriously under powered, Caldri cruisers are bit better but none of the cruisers can stand a chance against Thorax. This is not balance at all. You are forgeting that to kill something thorax should make it very close to target. When he is close then victim's cruiser is dead, but this only IF thorax get's very close and this IF is a balance.

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