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Sardau Kar	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:05:00 - [31] 2 ships,different purposes..
Sardau Kar	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:05:00 - [32] 2 ships,different purposes..
bAExxARn	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:10:00 - [33] well.. i dont raven is so hard to pvp in... even tho i havent played so long. i shield tank (mabey not the best for raven, but works awsome for me) , and i kill fast and hard :) torp dmg is around 600-700. but i dont know what to do.. i had a scorp once.. in like 2 day's. I thought it suck, cuz i diden have a good setup YAAAAARR!
bAExxARn	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:10:00 - [34] well.. i dont raven is so hard to pvp in... even tho i havent played so long. i shield tank (mabey not the best for raven, but works awsome for me) , and i kill fast and hard :) torp dmg is around 600-700. but i dont know what to do.. i had a scorp once.. in like 2 day's. I thought it suck, cuz i diden have a good setup YAAAAARR!
Sardau Kar	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:16:00 - [35] Quote: 3 small smartbombs says raven sucks until some kind of HP is put on torps/cruise I havent fough anyone yet that had 3 smartbombs on.In fact,of those that I fought,didnt even use defenders as far I remember.Yeah that missiles took ages to reach,but they all hit the fat turd. Iv seen everything on kill mails,from the most common setup to the craziesta,but 3 smartbombs...never. Maybe those were all n00bs,but I dont think so.Well guess its a matter of choice,and knowing the situation offhand.I tried using defenders with a friend at 60-70 km,and of 6 missiles a round he tossed me,like 3-4 hit me everytime.Its not like my defenders skill is high,but geez,they suck.
Sardau Kar	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:16:00 - [36] Quote: 3 small smartbombs says raven sucks until some kind of HP is put on torps/cruise I havent fough anyone yet that had 3 smartbombs on.In fact,of those that I fought,didnt even use defenders as far I remember.Yeah that missiles took ages to reach,but they all hit the fat turd. Iv seen everything on kill mails,from the most common setup to the craziesta,but 3 smartbombs...never. Maybe those were all n00bs,but I dont think so.Well guess its a matter of choice,and knowing the situation offhand.I tried using defenders with a friend at 60-70 km,and of 6 missiles a round he tossed me,like 3-4 hit me everytime.Its not like my defenders skill is high,but geez,they suck.
BIRDofPREY	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:35:00 - [37] FoF... If I see things going wrong at the outset, I don't wait for lock on. I let fly a battery of FoF Cruise and Heavy missiles. After that, I got the rest of my ships life to figure out what happened... HIT FIRST! QUESTIONS ARE FOR THOSE THAT FEEL A NEED TO MINE! Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage
BIRDofPREY	Posted - 2004.07.24 18:35:00 - [38] FoF... If I see things going wrong at the outset, I don't wait for lock on. I let fly a battery of FoF Cruise and Heavy missiles. After that, I got the rest of my ships life to figure out what happened... HIT FIRST! QUESTIONS ARE FOR THOSE THAT FEEL A NEED TO MINE! Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage
darth solo	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:02:00 - [39] like ma biatch switch said... smartbombs= dead raven, thats why we seem to b seeing tons of Apocalypses... hate fighting those things. the problem with a raven is, that u pretty much know that hes gonna be firing torps/cruise, counter this and the raven dies... raven was a wee bit overpowered, now the smartbomb is.
darth solo	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:02:00 - [40] like ma biatch switch said... smartbombs= dead raven, thats why we seem to b seeing tons of Apocalypses... hate fighting those things. the problem with a raven is, that u pretty much know that hes gonna be firing torps/cruise, counter this and the raven dies... raven was a wee bit overpowered, now the smartbomb is.
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:07:00 - [41] Originally by: darth solo like ma biatch switch said... smartbombs= dead raven, thats why we seem to b seeing tons of Apocalypses... hate fighting those things. the problem with a raven is, that u pretty much know that hes gonna be firing torps/cruise, counter this and the raven dies... raven was a wee bit overpowered, now the smartbomb is. Aye quite true - if you know you're fighting a Raven (or any Caldari ship for that matter), you know they'll be relying heavily on missiles. However, for a general pottering about setup, I don't know anyone who slaps loads of smartbombs in their high-slots. Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:07:00 - [42] Originally by: darth solo like ma biatch switch said... smartbombs= dead raven, thats why we seem to b seeing tons of Apocalypses... hate fighting those things. the problem with a raven is, that u pretty much know that hes gonna be firing torps/cruise, counter this and the raven dies... raven was a wee bit overpowered, now the smartbomb is. Aye quite true - if you know you're fighting a Raven (or any Caldari ship for that matter), you know they'll be relying heavily on missiles. However, for a general pottering about setup, I don't know anyone who slaps loads of smartbombs in their high-slots. Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Boonaki	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:36:00 - [43] I watched a 7 smartbomb apoc shread/pod a typhoon. Very fast fight, altho very cap intensive. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Boonaki	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:36:00 - [44] I watched a 7 smartbomb apoc shread/pod a typhoon. Very fast fight, altho very cap intensive. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Maniac Insane	Posted - 2004.07.28 10:25:00 - [45] 7 smartbombs ? He'd lose to most lol
Maniac Insane	Posted - 2004.07.28 10:25:00 - [46] 7 smartbombs ? He'd lose to most lol
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.07.28 10:54:00 - [47] With a decent amount of skills (I would say 8 mill +), the Raven can be setup to make it impossible to kill imho. Now when i say impossible to kill, I mean that it wont always get the kill, but when it cant kill, it can always run. If it can't run, then the ship its facing wont survive the battle. I have fought many 1v1s in my raven, and not lost a single ship yet. In fact, in the last few days I have fought 2 1v2 fights (tempest + Tempest, and Scorp+Tempest), and taken 3 ships from those encounters. Its a good versatile ship, the med slots help a lot to give it a nice thought provoking setup options, BUT it is limited on PG big style, and CPU isnt handy either, add to that the insane amount of skill points you need to squeeze a decent setup and a high end DOT, its hardly the be all and end all. I do love her though, very much. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.07.28 10:54:00 - [48] With a decent amount of skills (I would say 8 mill +), the Raven can be setup to make it impossible to kill imho. Now when i say impossible to kill, I mean that it wont always get the kill, but when it cant kill, it can always run. If it can't run, then the ship its facing wont survive the battle. I have fought many 1v1s in my raven, and not lost a single ship yet. In fact, in the last few days I have fought 2 1v2 fights (tempest + Tempest, and Scorp+Tempest), and taken 3 ships from those encounters. Its a good versatile ship, the med slots help a lot to give it a nice thought provoking setup options, BUT it is limited on PG big style, and CPU isnt handy either, add to that the insane amount of skill points you need to squeeze a decent setup and a high end DOT, its hardly the be all and end all. I do love her though, very much. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
darth solo	Posted - 2004.07.28 12:00:00 - [49] Dont get too settled in there EddZ.. i heared that they were sposed to be nerfing the Raven by halfing the CPU and power grid in the next patch.... That and they were making Siege launchers 3000 and 500 cpu grid.. they said they would also be making it that u had to fly the ship backwards with ur eyes shut and ur monitor switched off. Ban the nerfs. d solo.
darth solo	Posted - 2004.07.28 12:00:00 - [50] Dont get too settled in there EddZ.. i heared that they were sposed to be nerfing the Raven by halfing the CPU and power grid in the next patch.... That and they were making Siege launchers 3000 and 500 cpu grid.. they said they would also be making it that u had to fly the ship backwards with ur eyes shut and ur monitor switched off. Ban the nerfs. d solo.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.07.28 12:21:00 - [51] Edited by: JoCool on 28/07/2004 12:25:05 If I weren't flying a Raven I'd have one rocket launcher with defenders or a smartbomb fitted at all times. It can be as important for your survival as your shield booster / armor repairer at some times. You can also use both against frigates. I'm usually very amused to see Apocs engaging in PvP with 8 turrets.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.07.28 12:21:00 - [52] Edited by: JoCool on 28/07/2004 12:25:05 If I weren't flying a Raven I'd have one rocket launcher with defenders or a smartbomb fitted at all times. It can be as important for your survival as your shield booster / armor repairer at some times. You can also use both against frigates. I'm usually very amused to see Apocs engaging in PvP with 8 turrets.
Kasundra	Posted - 2004.08.31 05:33:00 - [53] Originally by: darth solo Dont get too settled in there EddZ.. i heared that they were sposed to be nerfing the Raven by halfing the CPU and power grid in the next patch.... That and they were making Siege launchers 3000 and 500 cpu grid.. they said they would also be making it that u had to fly the ship backwards with ur eyes shut and ur monitor switched off. d solo. Lol. Well said.. But :\ for the dodgy changes. Just keeps getting worse!!!
Kasundra	Posted - 2004.08.31 05:33:00 - [54] Originally by: darth solo Dont get too settled in there EddZ.. i heared that they were sposed to be nerfing the Raven by halfing the CPU and power grid in the next patch.... That and they were making Siege launchers 3000 and 500 cpu grid.. they said they would also be making it that u had to fly the ship backwards with ur eyes shut and ur monitor switched off. d solo. Lol. Well said.. But :\ for the dodgy changes. Just keeps getting worse!!!

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