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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.24 02:02:00 -
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A friend of mine and myself just killed a guy with whom we are at war with (relax - this was a legal kill) but the "victim" setup his Celstis a bit strange apparently:
Clestis for PvP ?!?
(pulled from the wreckage) 1x 150mm Rail 2x Dual 150mm Rails 1x Assault Missile Launcher 1x Medium Shield Extender 1x 7% Armor Plating 1x 2x Entergized Adaptive Nano I (15% resists) 1x Small Hull Repairer (assumed to be in cargo, just in case) 1x Type-E Power Core (-10% Cap +20% Cap Recharge)
Looks to me like this guy was sacraficing firepower for some kind of mixture of shield taking and armor taking and it almost worked as he almost destroyed my MOA - well my cap was gone but I was still firing heavy missiles (scourge and thunderbolt) compared with the light missiles the Celestis was firing. Most of the battle was conducted at 10km range so I could keep the Celestis locked down with my webber and warp prohibitor. It just seems strange that the Celestis wasn't trying to run cuz he had multiple chances to get away as my friend's Dominix was setup defensivly with shield hardeners rather than webber/scrambler and the Celestis was conducting hit/run tactics against the Dominix who was guarding the gate the Celestis wanted to use to get home.
I happened to be checking the 2 stations that were in this system cuz it looked like the Celestis was using a station to refit his ship and make repairs and I happened to come across the Celestis after undocking the 2nd station so I target-locked and webbed/scrambled and then took damage until I could get clear of the station since the Celestis was station-hugging and I didn't want to risk the station's turrets firing on me assuming the game was still borked for station defense turrets when stations take battle damage. I was down to 80% hull with no shields and no armor and no cap when my friend was able to get his Dominix in position to get into the fight since it was my job to keep the Celestis from warping away or redocking. Needless to say, since it was a 2 versus 1 fight the Celestis was destroyed and the pilot podded by the Dominix's 350mm guns. It's really too bad the Celestis was not setup better since he might have destroyed my MOA had he been using 250mm Rails and heavy missiles.
Just in case anyone wanted to know: (heck I might even learn something about my setup)
MOA Setup:
Hi: 1x 200mm Rail using Iron charges 3x 250mm Rails using Iridium charges 2x Heavy Missile Launchers using Scourge/Thunderbolt
Med: 1x 10MN MWD 1x Webber 1x Warp Prohibitor 1x Small shield booster
Low: 2x RCU I 1x PDU I 1x Missile Control System I
The MOA's cap recharge rate is too low at 290 secs so this is why I ran my cap dry using the webber and scrambler so I could swap out the Missile Control System for a Cap Power Relay but I wanted my missiles to have a damage boost since missiles fire even when cap is dry. I could swap out the Small Shield Booster for a Cap Recharger II since I didn't even get to use the Small Shield Booster at all during the battle.
Dominix Setup:
Hi: 2x Dual 250mm Rails using Iron charges (makes both types of guns have the same range) 4x 350mm Rails using Iridium charges
Med: 1x 100MN MWD 1x Supplemental Scanning CPU I 1x Thermal Shield Hardener 1x Photon Shield Hardener 1x XL Shield Booster
Low: 2x CPR I 2x RCU I 1x Photonic CPU (+7.2%) 1x Mag Field Stab II 1x Tracking Enhancer II
During one hit/run attack the Celestis took 75% damage to his ship whilst only dinging the Dominix's shields about 10% - Duh ! I think we all know a Celestis ain't gonna kill a Dominix unless the Dom pilot is asleep or something.
Any comments about these setups ? |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.24 02:02:00 -
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A friend of mine and myself just killed a guy with whom we are at war with (relax - this was a legal kill) but the "victim" setup his Celstis a bit strange apparently:
Clestis for PvP ?!?
(pulled from the wreckage) 1x 150mm Rail 2x Dual 150mm Rails 1x Assault Missile Launcher 1x Medium Shield Extender 1x 7% Armor Plating 1x 2x Entergized Adaptive Nano I (15% resists) 1x Small Hull Repairer (assumed to be in cargo, just in case) 1x Type-E Power Core (-10% Cap +20% Cap Recharge)
Looks to me like this guy was sacraficing firepower for some kind of mixture of shield taking and armor taking and it almost worked as he almost destroyed my MOA - well my cap was gone but I was still firing heavy missiles (scourge and thunderbolt) compared with the light missiles the Celestis was firing. Most of the battle was conducted at 10km range so I could keep the Celestis locked down with my webber and warp prohibitor. It just seems strange that the Celestis wasn't trying to run cuz he had multiple chances to get away as my friend's Dominix was setup defensivly with shield hardeners rather than webber/scrambler and the Celestis was conducting hit/run tactics against the Dominix who was guarding the gate the Celestis wanted to use to get home.
I happened to be checking the 2 stations that were in this system cuz it looked like the Celestis was using a station to refit his ship and make repairs and I happened to come across the Celestis after undocking the 2nd station so I target-locked and webbed/scrambled and then took damage until I could get clear of the station since the Celestis was station-hugging and I didn't want to risk the station's turrets firing on me assuming the game was still borked for station defense turrets when stations take battle damage. I was down to 80% hull with no shields and no armor and no cap when my friend was able to get his Dominix in position to get into the fight since it was my job to keep the Celestis from warping away or redocking. Needless to say, since it was a 2 versus 1 fight the Celestis was destroyed and the pilot podded by the Dominix's 350mm guns. It's really too bad the Celestis was not setup better since he might have destroyed my MOA had he been using 250mm Rails and heavy missiles.
Just in case anyone wanted to know: (heck I might even learn something about my setup)
MOA Setup:
Hi: 1x 200mm Rail using Iron charges 3x 250mm Rails using Iridium charges 2x Heavy Missile Launchers using Scourge/Thunderbolt
Med: 1x 10MN MWD 1x Webber 1x Warp Prohibitor 1x Small shield booster
Low: 2x RCU I 1x PDU I 1x Missile Control System I
The MOA's cap recharge rate is too low at 290 secs so this is why I ran my cap dry using the webber and scrambler so I could swap out the Missile Control System for a Cap Power Relay but I wanted my missiles to have a damage boost since missiles fire even when cap is dry. I could swap out the Small Shield Booster for a Cap Recharger II since I didn't even get to use the Small Shield Booster at all during the battle.
Dominix Setup:
Hi: 2x Dual 250mm Rails using Iron charges (makes both types of guns have the same range) 4x 350mm Rails using Iridium charges
Med: 1x 100MN MWD 1x Supplemental Scanning CPU I 1x Thermal Shield Hardener 1x Photon Shield Hardener 1x XL Shield Booster
Low: 2x CPR I 2x RCU I 1x Photonic CPU (+7.2%) 1x Mag Field Stab II 1x Tracking Enhancer II
During one hit/run attack the Celestis took 75% damage to his ship whilst only dinging the Dominix's shields about 10% - Duh ! I think we all know a Celestis ain't gonna kill a Dominix unless the Dom pilot is asleep or something.
Any comments about these setups ? |

Rhuu
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:02:00 -
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I can't believe that anyone would try to use a named basic cap flux, even if the pilot only had one lowslot module in the station and just shoved the thing in there. The pilot is either a) messing with you by equipping such things, and was looking to take the pan-galactic clone-activation express or b) mentally impaired. Though, given the rather low power for this setup, I wonder if the missing midslot module was a 100MN AB? Dunno.
One think that struck me as odd in your ships, though, was the dominix:
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Med: 1x 100MN MWD 1x Supplemental Scanning CPU I 1x Thermal Shield Hardener 1x Photon Shield Hardener 1x XL Shield Booster
Low: 2x CPR I 2x RCU I 1x Photonic CPU (+7.2%) 1x Mag Field Stab II 1x Tracking Enhancer II
I rushed through some calculations a bit, but I have concluded that I have no idea why your partner needs the CPU upgrade (unless the ship doubles for mining and he forgot to refit). Given that he has weapon upgrades IV, I'd say it is fairly reasonble to conclude that he's also trained electronics 5 (at least I hope it is)... With 720 CPU, he should have no problem at all fitting everything there. And since he's got plenty of CPU, he has a free low slot.
He also doesn't need to be using the cap relays and killing his own shield boosting ability. Were I in his place, I would(without messing with the setup too much):
1. Remove the scanning booster. If he needs help with his scanners, use the free lowslot for a scanning enhancer.
2. Get rid of the CPRs/RCUs and replace them with 4x PDS. He'll not only get back a bunch of the cap and shields lost when he plugged in the MWD, he also will get a better recharge rate (unless PD recharge bonuses are also stack-penalized) and have a fairly nice passive shield recharge to boot.
3. Assuming 1 was followed, there's a free midslot. This would be a great place to put either a shield boost amp or a kinetic hardener. Or a cap recharger. Or a tracking computer, or some kind of EW module (sensor damper (though these are consdered to be the dirtiest of dirty tricks due to their overpoweredness), tracking disruptor, or anything else he wants to fit.)
But then, I've suffered some pretty significant brain damage, myself. I'm sure someone has further revisions for you.
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Rhuu
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:02:00 -
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I can't believe that anyone would try to use a named basic cap flux, even if the pilot only had one lowslot module in the station and just shoved the thing in there. The pilot is either a) messing with you by equipping such things, and was looking to take the pan-galactic clone-activation express or b) mentally impaired. Though, given the rather low power for this setup, I wonder if the missing midslot module was a 100MN AB? Dunno.
One think that struck me as odd in your ships, though, was the dominix:
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Med: 1x 100MN MWD 1x Supplemental Scanning CPU I 1x Thermal Shield Hardener 1x Photon Shield Hardener 1x XL Shield Booster
Low: 2x CPR I 2x RCU I 1x Photonic CPU (+7.2%) 1x Mag Field Stab II 1x Tracking Enhancer II
I rushed through some calculations a bit, but I have concluded that I have no idea why your partner needs the CPU upgrade (unless the ship doubles for mining and he forgot to refit). Given that he has weapon upgrades IV, I'd say it is fairly reasonble to conclude that he's also trained electronics 5 (at least I hope it is)... With 720 CPU, he should have no problem at all fitting everything there. And since he's got plenty of CPU, he has a free low slot.
He also doesn't need to be using the cap relays and killing his own shield boosting ability. Were I in his place, I would(without messing with the setup too much):
1. Remove the scanning booster. If he needs help with his scanners, use the free lowslot for a scanning enhancer.
2. Get rid of the CPRs/RCUs and replace them with 4x PDS. He'll not only get back a bunch of the cap and shields lost when he plugged in the MWD, he also will get a better recharge rate (unless PD recharge bonuses are also stack-penalized) and have a fairly nice passive shield recharge to boot.
3. Assuming 1 was followed, there's a free midslot. This would be a great place to put either a shield boost amp or a kinetic hardener. Or a cap recharger. Or a tracking computer, or some kind of EW module (sensor damper (though these are consdered to be the dirtiest of dirty tricks due to their overpoweredness), tracking disruptor, or anything else he wants to fit.)
But then, I've suffered some pretty significant brain damage, myself. I'm sure someone has further revisions for you.
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:39:00 -
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So..........let me get this straight........I guy in a cruiser almost blew your cruiser up even though you had a bs with you , and you make fun of his set up??.......
If it was him against you, this would be his thread........ I'm not sure which would be more amusing 
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:39:00 -
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So..........let me get this straight........I guy in a cruiser almost blew your cruiser up even though you had a bs with you , and you make fun of his set up??.......
If it was him against you, this would be his thread........ I'm not sure which would be more amusing 
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:42:00 -
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Congrats you killed a noob and nearly got killed in the process  Mostly harmless |

Grut
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:42:00 -
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Congrats you killed a noob and nearly got killed in the process  Mostly harmless |

Gank CE0
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Posted - 2004.07.24 11:14:00 -
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OoooOOooo you killed a CELESTIS with a tier 3 cruiser and a BS ...
Wow you really are good at this pvp lark 
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Gank CE0
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Posted - 2004.07.24 11:14:00 -
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OoooOOooo you killed a CELESTIS with a tier 3 cruiser and a BS ...
Wow you really are good at this pvp lark 
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.24 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Broc Vallion So..........let me get this straight........I guy in a cruiser almost blew your cruiser up even though you had a bs with you , and you make fun of his set up??.......
If it was him against you, this would be his thread........ I'm not sure which would be more amusing 
Well not exactly... as I said the Celestis did fire first cuz my MOA was real close to the station and I didn't want to find out the hard what that the game was still borked for splash dmg fom heavy missiles so while I was repositioning my MOA without losing wbber/scrambler effectiveness I lost my shields and then by the time I was firing heavy missiles and using guns (guns were a waste of time due to the setup at close range) my heavy missiles would have wasted the Celestis before my ship would have gone poof so I called for my friend to move in for the kill just for "spite". Otherwise the Celestis would have been toast much faster using just the MOA but since my corp and my friends corp both delcared War on the Celestis's pilot's corp both my friend and I wanted to make sure the Celestis pilot knew he was in deep kimshee in case he had any future plans for remaining in the War which he didn't cuz he bailed outta his corp that is at War to be a privateer so he can continue his evil ore thievery ways in some 0.3 system where I can still gank him (again for "spite") at the loss of sec rating, etc. |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.24 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Broc Vallion So..........let me get this straight........I guy in a cruiser almost blew your cruiser up even though you had a bs with you , and you make fun of his set up??.......
If it was him against you, this would be his thread........ I'm not sure which would be more amusing 
Well not exactly... as I said the Celestis did fire first cuz my MOA was real close to the station and I didn't want to find out the hard what that the game was still borked for splash dmg fom heavy missiles so while I was repositioning my MOA without losing wbber/scrambler effectiveness I lost my shields and then by the time I was firing heavy missiles and using guns (guns were a waste of time due to the setup at close range) my heavy missiles would have wasted the Celestis before my ship would have gone poof so I called for my friend to move in for the kill just for "spite". Otherwise the Celestis would have been toast much faster using just the MOA but since my corp and my friends corp both delcared War on the Celestis's pilot's corp both my friend and I wanted to make sure the Celestis pilot knew he was in deep kimshee in case he had any future plans for remaining in the War which he didn't cuz he bailed outta his corp that is at War to be a privateer so he can continue his evil ore thievery ways in some 0.3 system where I can still gank him (again for "spite") at the loss of sec rating, etc. |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.07.24 15:51:00 -
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Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.07.24 15:51:00 -
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Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:19:00 -
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Weird set up..im a lil surprised he didnt pop open his drone bay. I can throw out 9 hammerheads. Nice to see one being used for pvp though. I tend to use mine just for ratting. Old corp mates always dissed it as a pvp ship.
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:19:00 -
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Weird set up..im a lil surprised he didnt pop open his drone bay. I can throw out 9 hammerheads. Nice to see one being used for pvp though. I tend to use mine just for ratting. Old corp mates always dissed it as a pvp ship.
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |

Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.07.24 19:55:00 -
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I'll leave aside any comments about a 2 on 1 battle. Unless he told you, how do you know what he had fitted on his ship? half of the stuff you mentioned could have been in his cargo hold if he was on the way back from NPC hunting. Don't forget, that when you destroy a ship, not every module survives. The only indication of what was fitted is which modules are not repackaged. Even that's not perfect since I carry extra modules with me all the time.
Obviously his setup wasn't up to the task or he'd have survived, but you don't really know what that setup was......
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.07.24 19:55:00 -
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I'll leave aside any comments about a 2 on 1 battle. Unless he told you, how do you know what he had fitted on his ship? half of the stuff you mentioned could have been in his cargo hold if he was on the way back from NPC hunting. Don't forget, that when you destroy a ship, not every module survives. The only indication of what was fitted is which modules are not repackaged. Even that's not perfect since I carry extra modules with me all the time.
Obviously his setup wasn't up to the task or he'd have survived, but you don't really know what that setup was......
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.07.24 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Fett I'll leave aside any comments about a 2 on 1 battle. Unless he told you, how do you know what he had fitted on his ship? half of the stuff you mentioned could have been in his cargo hold if he was on the way back from NPC hunting. Don't forget, that when you destroy a ship, not every module survives. The only indication of what was fitted is which modules are not repackaged. Even that's not perfect since I carry extra modules with me all the time.
Obviously his setup wasn't up to the task or he'd have survived, but you don't really know what that setup was......
Killmail tells you whats fitted and what isnt. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.07.24 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Fett I'll leave aside any comments about a 2 on 1 battle. Unless he told you, how do you know what he had fitted on his ship? half of the stuff you mentioned could have been in his cargo hold if he was on the way back from NPC hunting. Don't forget, that when you destroy a ship, not every module survives. The only indication of what was fitted is which modules are not repackaged. Even that's not perfect since I carry extra modules with me all the time.
Obviously his setup wasn't up to the task or he'd have survived, but you don't really know what that setup was......
Killmail tells you whats fitted and what isnt. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.24 21:38:00 -
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Sounds like you got yourself a new player, nice one  ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.24 21:38:00 -
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Sounds like you got yourself a new player, nice one  ------------------------------------------
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.24 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship... |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.24 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship... |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.07.25 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship...
hehe would have been funny if you did  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.07.25 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship...
hehe would have been funny if you did  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.25 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritan
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship...
hehe would have been funny if you did 
I would have considered it an acceptable loss to throw away a ship I can easily replace for the pleasure of watching an enemy die... keep in mind my friend still had his Dominix so even if I had lost my MOA the military objective (don't hear this being talked about much in EVE forums) "the military objective" would have been accomplished. In the real world, "military objectives" are everything and losses are acceptable as long as the "military objectives" are accomplished. So in this case the fact that I paid 700000 isk to repair my ship was completely acceptable to me cuz I got to watch the enemy die which was of course the "military objective". |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2004.07.25 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritan
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship...
hehe would have been funny if you did 
I would have considered it an acceptable loss to throw away a ship I can easily replace for the pleasure of watching an enemy die... keep in mind my friend still had his Dominix so even if I had lost my MOA the military objective (don't hear this being talked about much in EVE forums) "the military objective" would have been accomplished. In the real world, "military objectives" are everything and losses are acceptable as long as the "military objectives" are accomplished. So in this case the fact that I paid 700000 isk to repair my ship was completely acceptable to me cuz I got to watch the enemy die which was of course the "military objective". |

Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.25 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Joshua Foiritan
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship...
hehe would have been funny if you did 
I would have considered it an acceptable loss to throw away a ship I can easily replace for the pleasure of watching an enemy die... keep in mind my friend still had his Dominix so even if I had lost my MOA the military objective (don't hear this being talked about much in EVE forums) "the military objective" would have been accomplished. In the real world, "military objectives" are everything and losses are acceptable as long as the "military objectives" are accomplished. So in this case the fact that I paid 700000 isk to repair my ship was completely acceptable to me cuz I got to watch the enemy die which was of course the "military objective".
I'm not into this sort of pvp but maybe his "military objective" may have been to fight you with a budget setup........there by enabling him to suffer twice the ship losses you do, with only half the isk risked......and at the same time learn a great deal about your fighting stlye and weaknesses, in your favourite ship/setup........
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.25 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Joshua Foiritan
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Pandora Panda Congrats on killing a Celestis with a Moa and a battleship.
Are you ever going to post something that doesnt make you look like the worst PVPer ever?
For the next part of this exciting story, mebbye you could tell us about the time you killed an ibis with a rifter, and how he almost got you. Or that damned indy that almost killed your cruiser.
So I'm the "worst" PvP'er ever, huh ? Well that's okay since I'm not the one who lost his ship...
hehe would have been funny if you did 
I would have considered it an acceptable loss to throw away a ship I can easily replace for the pleasure of watching an enemy die... keep in mind my friend still had his Dominix so even if I had lost my MOA the military objective (don't hear this being talked about much in EVE forums) "the military objective" would have been accomplished. In the real world, "military objectives" are everything and losses are acceptable as long as the "military objectives" are accomplished. So in this case the fact that I paid 700000 isk to repair my ship was completely acceptable to me cuz I got to watch the enemy die which was of course the "military objective".
I'm not into this sort of pvp but maybe his "military objective" may have been to fight you with a budget setup........there by enabling him to suffer twice the ship losses you do, with only half the isk risked......and at the same time learn a great deal about your fighting stlye and weaknesses, in your favourite ship/setup........
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