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Peacekeeper Aurora
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:03:00 -
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Hello!
Is there anyone else out there being anoyed off the clone upgrade feature?
You might forget on it to upgrade it and loose all your long earned SP.
If you get podded, loose your clone and get once more podded you loose all you got.
Whats the reason for this?
Lets remove the clone upgrade and give us an unlocked clone from beginning is what i say.
Anyone feels the same?
Greetings,
Peacekeeper
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Mioelnir
Minmatar
Meltd0wn
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:04:00 -
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No.
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Brenner Abes
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:06:00 -
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I came in here expecting a suggestion to turn off clone upgrades and leave us with the 800k clone only.
What a disappointment.
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:06:00 -
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No! It would encourage ppl to PvP! Lets leave it as it is.
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Peacekeeper Aurora
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Peacekeeper Aurora on 06/01/2009 20:12:06
Why does it encourages to PVP?
Clones are freakin cheap even for my 45 million SP one.
Its just nagging and you always have to pay peanuts.
At least you should get a window to buy a new one immediately after dead.
Even though i still think this feature sucks.
No MMORPG game uses a game feature like this.
You would still loose your ship (maybe worth 400 millions) so i expect thats more motivation to NOT pvp instead of a 1 million clone.
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Claudia Jefferson
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:15:00 -
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If they are so cheap then why dont you just buy the biggest clone you can get instead of upgrading all the time, problem solved!
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Peacekeeper Aurora
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Peacekeeper Aurora on 06/01/2009 20:21:13
As far as i know you always have to buy a new one after you get podded.
Because the new clone will start at 800 SP (or what so ever) if you get podded again without buying a new one.
So you always have the chance to loose your whole EVE carrier in a single hour.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:21:00 -
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Also since no one said it yet, you don't lose all, or even most, of your SP when you get podded with a bad clone. In fact at worst you probably won' lose more than a few weeks of training time IIRC.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
Terradyne Networks Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:21:00 -
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I've never had a problem with clones being loose. I keep them all in check.
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FunzzeR
Counter Errorist Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:27:00 -
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Nope never had a problem, just a matter of checking periodically..
How many SPs did you lose? 
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.06 20:56:00 -
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It just rewards good management, like alot of things in Eve.
And it makes podkilling hurt people occasionally 
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:00:00 -
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Don't get podded then?
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Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:02:00 -
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I pulled that **** on myself two days ago :(
Was pod jumping all over the place trying to get set up, bam I forget to update one of the clones and I lose 8 days on medium energy turret, the one thing I needed to train for my target!
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Peacekeeper Aurora
Hello!
Is there anyone else out there being anoyed off the clone upgrade feature?
You might forget on it to upgrade it and loose all your long earned SP.
If you get podded, loose your clone and get once more podded you loose all you got.
Whats the reason for this?
Lets remove the clone upgrade and give us an unlocked clone from beginning is what i say.
Anyone feels the same?
Greetings,
Peacekeeper
The clone upgrade feature is there to weed out the incompetent players, such as yourself.
Bellum Eternus
Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:15:00 -
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Feature doesn't really make sense or serve a purpose anymore, with one single exception.
Low SP clones are dirt cheap; anyone can afford them. By the time you need a high SP clone, you can easily make the money needed or bum it off someone else who can.
The only time it ever really comes into play is when you do something really stupid like get stranded deep in hostile space with no current clone and no med facilities.
It's basically just a formality; just one more button in the interface, that says "press me every so often or you're screwed". At least they finally fixed it so you can't buy a sub-par clone upgrade anymore.. I swear, the EVE GUI has some of the most illegible fonts and numbers in any game I've ever played.
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BruisedMoon
Amarr
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Grendelsbane
Feature doesn't really make sense or serve a purpose anymore, with one single exception.
Low SP clones are dirt cheap; anyone can afford them. By the time you need a high SP clone, you can easily make the money needed or bum it off someone else who can.
The only time it ever really comes into play is when you do something really stupid like get stranded deep in hostile space with no current clone and no med facilities.
It's basically just a formality; just one more button in the interface, that says "press me every so often or you're screwed". At least they finally fixed it so you can't buy a sub-par clone upgrade anymore.. I swear, the EVE GUI has some of the most illegible fonts and numbers in any game I've ever played.
Get glasses, or contacts or talk to your doctor about viag.. erm.. point is I can see it just fine.. have no problems.. and feel rewarded everytime I upgrade a clone...
Its there.. get over it
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AleRiperKilt
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Grendelsbane
It's basically just a formality; just one more button in the interface, that says "press me every so often or you're screwed". At least they finally fixed it so you can't buy a sub-par clone upgrade anymore.. I swear, the EVE GUI has some of the most illegible fonts and numbers in any game I've ever played.
It's just bad UI design, there should be a one-click solution to both "set clone to this station" and "upgrade clone" with no annoying popups such as "territorial dispute" or choosing clone level, just pick up the next one and only notify me if I don't have enough isk to pay for it dammit. 
- Make something blink if I need to update clone.
- Give option to auto-update clone so it happens as soon as I wake up in station
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:39:00 -
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It's fine as is. The one change I would make is have an automatic mail sent when you surpass your clone's limit.
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Admiral Majike
First Flying Wing Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:50:00 -
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It is stupid to not have it automatically upgrade to at least your minimum skill points.(i'm fine with it automatically deducting the cost of the clone upgrade). However, the first time I forget and loose a single skill point, I'll cancel all my accounts. There are plenty of "risky" things in the game. Taking away my "REAL TIME" training shouldn't be one of them....I'd settle for the option of "buying back" any lost skill points, taking them away and no option of getting them back short of re training them with real life time....mine is worth more than that.
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State Security
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:58:00 -
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Hey...um...long as we're talking clones, could I please have a Heidi Montag?
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.06 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Peacekeeper Aurora
You might forget on it to upgrade it and loose all your long earned SP.
If you get podded, loose your clone and get once more podded you loose all you got.
It's not that harsh, you lose only a small part of lp, not everything. It's not like that you will be left with 800k sp after podded several times without having bought a clone, so don't panic.
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.01.06 22:29:00 -
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In addition to all of the above arguments - removing the need to replace your clone removes a significant portion of outpost takeover fights, which is to say disabling the cloning facility and forcing your opponent to either eat SP loss regularly or move their clone and travel to the battleground.
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.01.06 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Also since no one said it yet, you don't lose all, or even most, of your SP when you get podded with a bad clone. In fact at worst you probably won' lose more than a few weeks of training time IIRC.
sadly :(
that 10% SP loss i somewhere read years ago sounded much more better :)
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RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.06 22:40:00 -
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5% of the difference between what your SP are to what your clone covers removed from the skill with the most SP
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want a button next to that one that says give me 1Bil isk FFS
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2009.01.06 22:45:00 -
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Well I'd pay double to have auto update for me, but other than it, its a good system.
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.01.06 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
5% of the difference between what your SP are to what your clone covers removed from the skill with the most SP
Just for completeness sake - you lose 5% of the SP not covered by your current clone off the highest SP level skill you have, to a max of 50%.
So, even if you have millions of SP not covered by a clone, the most you lose is half a rank on one skill. It hurts, sure, but hardly something that can't be recovered from - and damned easy to avoid happening in the first place.
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Darkeen
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.06 23:16:00 -
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OP=FAIL.
Got a 8 Mill SP character with a 12 MIll SP clone,.
So I dont have to worry about it for a while.
What your SCARED of spending a few Mill isk for a clone?
Get some balls and some money and spend it. Buy a decent clone you tightwad...
Regards,
Jason Brisbane
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.07 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Darkeen
OP=FAIL.
Got a 8 Mill SP character with a 12 MIll SP clone,.
So I dont have to worry about it for a while.
What your SCARED of spending a few Mill isk for a clone?
Get some balls and some money and spend it. Buy a decent clone you tightwad...
'don't have to worry about it for a while'
do some real pvp boy
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Yelan Zhou
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.07 00:07:00 -
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No, I dont fell the same.
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Sarkiss
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Posted - 2009.01.07 00:25:00 -
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I get where the OP is coming from, stupidly mindnumbing idea tbf, can't see a point for it, but its only a couple of mil each time, so stop whining.
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