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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1402
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Posted - 2012.04.15 21:40:00 -
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George Washington: Britain's Greatest Foe
If it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion.
Ironically, the event that was the first nail in the coffin was personally led by.......... George Washington. He presided over squashing what was an expected outcome to the Constitution.
So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
994
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Posted - 2012.04.15 22:14:00 -
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To be honest I'm pretty sure everyone in the 18th century was a ****  |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
270
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Posted - 2012.04.15 23:15:00 -
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I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have. |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
64
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Posted - 2012.04.15 23:31:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have.
This.
But why let pesky little details like the facts get in the way of making a good political point? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1402
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Posted - 2012.04.16 04:51:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have.
Yeah we tried that in the USA naming places after great native chiefs but the meaning is lost on most people and frankly it's a little sick.
Hey Merin, a couple of presents for you.
A little motivator
Quote:In June of 1775, George Washington was appointed Major General and elected by Congress to be commander in chief of the American revolutionary forces. Although he took up his tasks energetically, Washington accomplished nothing militarily for the remainder of the year and more, nor did he try. His only campaign in 1775 was internal rather than external; it was directed against the American army as he found it, and was designed to extirpate the spirit of liberty pervading this unusually individualistic and democratic army of militiamen. In short, Washington set out to transform a people's army, uniquely suited for a libertarian revolution, into another orthodox and despotically ruled statist force after the familiar European model.
Read more... (After reading this, OF COURSE they would put a statue of him in Trafalgar Square). |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
64
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Posted - 2012.04.16 05:04:00 -
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Which is what tends to happen in a war...
Quote:Read more... (After reading this, OF COURSE they would put a statue of him in Trafalgar Square).
So, could you point out the part where I said that Washington was perfect and refused to admit that he might have had flaws?
Oh wait, you can't, because I never said that. I just laughed at how you presented an article saying "Washington was a worthy opponent" as "Britain can't get over losing the war". |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
271
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Posted - 2012.04.16 05:30:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have. Yeah we tried that in the USA naming places after great native chiefs but the meaning is lost on most people and frankly it's a little sick.
A historical name will only bear meaning to those who want it to. George Washington has a significant meaning to us in the US and people in Britain due to the revolution as opposed to somebody in say, China, just as Sitting Bull will have more meaning to a native American than he will to some guy in New York, or Martin Luther King's name bearing more meaning to black people than to white. You can't honestly expect everyone to feel the same level of empathy for every historical figure out there, and if you do then I expect you to tell me how you celebrate Kim Jong Il's birthday. |

baltec1
1098
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Posted - 2012.04.16 08:58:00 -
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Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen |

Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
146
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Posted - 2012.04.16 09:04:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen 
I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that.
When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society. |

baltec1
1099
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Posted - 2012.04.16 09:31:00 -
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Astenion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen  I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that. When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society.
Our empire was still bigger. |
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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.04.16 09:38:00 -
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Empires come and go.
I much rather applaud the enlightened that see empires as a great folly to human progress. If we do not unite freely it is just a form of oppression, and why applaud the biggest oppressors? |

Whitehound
97
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:31:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:George Washington: Britain's Greatest FoeIf it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion. Ironically, the event that was the first nail in the coffin was personally led by.......... George Washington. He presided over squashing what was an expected outcome to the Constitution. So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British. You are only butthurt that it is not your Adolf. Get over it. |

Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2012.04.16 12:24:00 -
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Well I never...
Sidus Isaacs wrote:Empires come and go.
I much rather applaud the enlightened that see empires as a great folly to human progress. If we do not unite freely it is just a form of oppression, and why applaud the biggest oppressors?
Thearu called said his theory of everyone being belligerent keith Olbermanns, gallivanting around the country side getting thrown in jail with no real way to resolve conflict if everyone is disagreeing all the time, hasn't been quite worked out yet.
Or were you going for John Lennon? His method is admittedly way less "dickish." |

Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
254
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Posted - 2012.04.16 14:04:00 -
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Astenion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen  I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that. When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society. Ah, so it's the Romans who are to blame? |

Commander Tycho
Kernkraft 400
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 16:09:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Yeah we tried that in the USA naming places after great native chiefs but the meaning is lost on most people and frankly it's a little sick.
Naming places/ having statues of those you have defeated is not the same as naming places/ having statues of those who defeated you (as a mark of respect).
Also, I dont mean "you" as in you as a person or as a representative of a nation, its general. |

Zofe Stormcaller
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
9
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:11:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:George Washington: Britain's Greatest FoeIf it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion. Ironically, the event that was the first nail in the coffin was personally led by.......... George Washington. He presided over squashing what was an expected outcome to the Constitution. So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British. You are only butthurt that it is not your Adolf. Get over it.
Trying to invade Russia in the winter, while trying to invade Europe at the same time isn't exactly a hallmark of military genius. |

Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
27
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:50:00 -
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I'm just glad to see that Michael Collins got second place, ahead of that idiot Bonaparte. Name a shrub after me.-á Something prickly and hard to eradicate. |

Netrome
NerdHerd En Garde
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 22:58:00 -
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http://imgur.com/I8gHR |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2012.04.16 23:54:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
If it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion.
from someone born an bred in the US:
the whatnow?
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |

Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
27
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Posted - 2012.04.17 02:33:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:Empires come and go.
I much rather applaud the enlightened that see empires as a great folly to human progress. If we do not unite freely it is just a form of oppression, and why applaud the biggest oppressors?
What have the Romans ever done for us?
Name a shrub after me.-á Something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1405
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:48:00 -
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Astenion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen  I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that. When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society.
If I was British I would have to say that my stiff upper lip would be most challenged.
The Romans didn't take the whole island, but that's more attributable to an empire being stretched too thin than anything else.
To Britain's credit, while an empire, didn't go out like Rome. Still, it bothers me to see EvE trailers with people sporting British accents because it implies that after more than 20 thousand years we have failed to eradicate that anglo saxon scum with their bland cuisine, knees bent running about behavior and Benny Hill.  |

Whitehound
116
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:53:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Astenion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen  I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that. When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society. If I was British I would have to say that my stiff upper lip would be most challenged. The Romans didn't take the whole island, but that's more attributable to an empire being stretched too thin than anything else. Jawohl mein Fuhrer. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1405
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:56:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Astenion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seen  I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that. When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society. If I was British I would have to say that my stiff upper lip would be most challenged. The Romans didn't take the whole island, but that's more attributable to an empire being stretched too thin than anything else. Jawohl mein Fuhrer.
I know what this thread is missing, the official accusation of being in league with the Neo crowd for not being a fan of the present state of states.
But please, show me where the Adolf movement or their ideals are NOT in charge of things. Most of what troubles the world and makes America the country that it is today is the very thing we claim to righteously fill graveyards with, and everything good people fight against.
But you probably won't be able to do that, as indicated by your present track. People like me ignore people like you and go on to start brush fires in minds that are more worthy of the time and effort.
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Whitehound
118
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Posted - 2012.04.17 15:55:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I know what this thread is missing, the official accusation of being in league with the Neo crowd for not being a fan of the present state of states.
But please, show me where the Adolf movement or their ideals are NOT in charge of things. Most of what troubles the world and makes America the country that it is today is the very thing we claim to righteously fill graveyards with, and everything good people fight against.
But you probably won't be able to do that, as indicated by your present track. People like me ignore people like you and go on to start brush fires in minds that are more worthy of the time and effort. How cute are you? Germany does not have a recent and great military history and so you go looking at other nations and want to tell them "Come on"?
You come on! Get over it. There is nothing to talk about. Start a thread where you talk about Germany's military history before the time of You-Know-Who. Just do not tell people what they shall think of their own histories in lack of your own. You have lost the war and no amount of cuteness will change this. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1405
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:09:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I know what this thread is missing, the official accusation of being in league with the Neo crowd for not being a fan of the present state of states.
But please, show me where the Adolf movement or their ideals are NOT in charge of things. Most of what troubles the world and makes America the country that it is today is the very thing we claim to righteously fill graveyards with, and everything good people fight against.
But you probably won't be able to do that, as indicated by your present track. People like me ignore people like you and go on to start brush fires in minds that are more worthy of the time and effort. How cute are you? Germany does not have a recent and great military history and so you go looking at other nations and want to tell them "Come on"? You come on! Get over it. There is nothing to talk about. Start a thread where you talk about Germany's military history before the time of You-Know-Who. Just do not tell people what they shall think of their own histories in lack of your own. You have lost the war and no amount of cuteness will change this.
If that lost war is the Second World War, then we could say that the United States lost it. Britain lost that war too.
Yes the guys in the jackboots and their cronies are gone, many of them dead and the rest went to prison, but their ideals, their goals, still came to fruition. It's no surprise when you look at who was funding Adolf in the 1920s through the 1930s. The same people funded Stalin and ensured the defeat of the White Russians too.
If you think I have some problem with Adolf and Co. losing in their attempt at an official fourth reich, you are trolling me. I am not satisfied with your troll and need to know where I can return the unused portion.
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Whitehound
118
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:31:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If that lost war is the Second World War, then we could say that the United States lost it. Britain lost that war too. ... True, the war did cost many lives on all sides. Our generation is lucky never to have seen it. Wars are good to prevent evil and therefore necessary, but they are not funny, nor amusing, nor entertaining. |

EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:59:00 -
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whats worse as i heard on Conan, ****** was in second place, George Washington was in first "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |

Flex Mustang
Vodka and Vice
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:09:00 -
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Great image of Washington! |

Lord Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.04.19 19:59:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British.
Well, considering that he's technically a terrorist that's not surprising. |

baltec1
1115
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:03:00 -
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Lord Dravius wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British.
Well, considering that he's technically a terrorist that's not surprising.
More like rebel scum. |
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