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JaseNZ	Posted - 2009.01.07 08:28:00 - [1] Hey all. Been playing a while now and learning what to do and what not to do in relation to playing EVE. Been mining in a system now for a few weeks and noticed one player that habitually does the same thing pretty much every day, at similar times of the day. Been talking with a few other miners I get along with in the system and they are starting to get annoyed at the actions of this player also. We've tried to contact the player and let them know what we think, and that what they are doing annoys the living daylights out of us, but no one ever gets a reply, and we have never seen this player ever say anything in chats or in local. We suspect he may be someone's mining bot, but obviously there's no way for us to be sure. Any suggestions on what else we could try? We're all thinking about petitioning CCP about it (all the annoyed miners and myself) and letting them do whatever it is they do in regards to this, failing that we're just gonna war dec the guy's 2 member corp and lay siege to his Hulk whenever we see it heh.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2009.01.07 08:39:00 - [2] Both would be valid ways to handle the situation. Grants *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.01.07 08:42:00 - [3] Originally by: JaseNZ Any suggestions on what else we could try? We're all thinking about petitioning CCP about it (all the annoyed miners and myself) and letting them do whatever it is they do in regards to this, failing that we're just gonna war dec the guy's 2 member corp and lay siege to his Hulk whenever we see it heh. Those two options are not mutually exclusive. ------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
king toad	Posted - 2009.01.07 08:44:00 - [4] I would go with war dec it be much more fun after that then report if he keeps it up "I dont think he will tho" lol
Sholen Skara	Posted - 2009.01.07 08:54:00 - [5] Edited by: Sholen Skara on 07/01/2009 08:54:18 A few basic steps to get rid of this guy: 1. Wardec his 2-man corp 2. Get yourselves some nice ships and weaponry 3. Scan him down 4. Warp to location 5. It's PEWPEW time If the guy persists: rinse and repeat
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.01.07 08:59:00 - [6] Wardec, blow up, petition for botting if this wardec proves it, wait for the results. Diary of a pod pilot
T'Laar Bok	Posted - 2009.01.07 09:08:00 - [7] Originally by: JaseNZ Been mining in a system now for a few weeks and noticed one player that habitually does the same thing pretty much every day, at similar times of the day. That sounds like me. Originally by: JaseNZ We've tried to contact the player and let them know what we think, and that what they are doing annoys the living daylights out of us, What? Minding their own buisness and mining? Originally by: JaseNZ but no one ever gets a reply, and we have never seen this player ever say anything in chats or in local. That also sounds like me. Originally by: JaseNZ We suspect he may be someone's mining bot, but obviously there's no way for us to be sure. True but he may just like to relax with a bit of mining early in the morning before his ebil children get out of bed and start annoying the siht out of him. Originally by: JaseNZ we're just gonna war dec the guy's 2 member corp and lay siege to his Hulk whenever we see it heh. Whatever make you feel good
Valtrexx Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.07 09:50:00 - [8] looking at your ceo makes me wishing to quit game -This space intentionally has nothing but text explaining why this space has nothing but text explaining that this space would otherwise have been left blank, and would otherwise have been left blank.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.01.07 09:58:00 - [9] EVE is ebil, it shutdowns your client if it detects that some 3rd party program tries to scan screen from objects or colors by pixels "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
piratezxp Caldari Cerulean Sky Fire Industries AKA-AHN KINGDOM	Posted - 2009.01.07 10:00:00 - [10] Edited by: piratezxp on 07/01/2009 10:00:37 Two Words: pew pew Signature --------------------- EVE Online VoIP Services: http://evevoip.alienxservers.co.uk

Neddy Fox Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.01.07 10:15:00 - [11] 1] Bump him away from the belt, see if he responds. 2] After the wardeck, check if his pod keeps returning to the belt and tries to mine :P ---- [PXIN Recruiter] PXIN Recruitement thread
Secunda Martia Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.01.07 10:54:00 - [12] Originally by: JaseNZ failing that we're just gonna war dec the guy's 2 member corp and lay siege to his Hulk whenever we see it heh. I once had a character in a 3-member corp. One of our members, annoyed at the disruptive and abusive behaviour of a young gentleman in a chat channel, called him on said behaviour. Unfortunately the gentleman proved to be a junior member of a rather large, rich PVP corporation, which didn't seem to care what its members did, but was quite happy to mobilise to defend them against nasty people who expected unreasonable standards of them, like "not being real-life racist toerags in the chat channels". Needless to say our corp - and our game - was pretty much ruined. We lost a mining barge that we'd saved for ages to buy - and yes, we understand that you Shouldn't Fly Anything You Can't Afford To ReplaceÖ, and losing a ship is essentially our own fault really; but it was still hugely demoralising at the time. As a result, one of my friends quit the game (they were wavering anyway, admittedly), and the other went back to their NPC corp. After a week or so and a small number of destroyed ships I just rolled a new main. I've never been in a player corporation since. I offer that sob story not to elicit sympathy or flames (though I expect a few of the latter), but just to show what it can be like from the point of view of those unjustly declared on. But maybe you're right in your suspicions. I hate macroers as much as the next player. And yes, I've read their articles and posts offering feeble rationalisations and claiming that they're "not really doing any harm" and it's all about "challenging themselves" in writing the scripts, and they're actually good guys really; and all that guff. It's nonsense. They're cheats and scam merchants and I say it's fine to blow them up. Would do myself if I had the kit and the funds - and the certainty that the ship I was attacking was under macro control. Otherwise I'd just be griefing another player because they won't talk to me. Presumably this guy's in high-sec - hence the need for an expensive war dec. Maybe that's because he's a macroer and it means he doesn't have to keep watching his screen. Or maybe it's because he's saved for ages to afford that ship and wants to minimise his risk of losing it. It's up to you, of course, but you've said yourself "obviously there's no way for us to be sure". Personally I'd petition this player and let CCP investigate. If you're spoiling for a bit of righteous vigilante action there're plenty of random-name bots out there you could tackle first with far more confidence of a hitting a proper target; or I think I recall there are boards and forums for macro-hunters to discuss targets?
Seetesh Caldari Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.01.07 11:00:00 - [13] Could just suicide gank him in smartbombing ships :P probably two ships fully insured.
Lei Merdeau Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.07 11:08:00 - [14] EveMail him ?
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.	Posted - 2009.01.07 11:09:00 - [15] Being a proven macro miner is more excuse than you need to attack him. This is EvE; "I just don't like you" is sufficient.
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.01.07 11:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Seetesh Could just suicide gank him in smartbombing ships :P probably two ships fully insured. Yes, this is only oprion to handle this kind of ekoterrorists. If you wardec them they'll just go to another corp.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2009.01.07 11:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Malcanis Being a proven macro miner is more excuse than you need to attack him. This is EvE; "I just don't like you" is sufficient. I prefer "My finger slipped" ---------------------- Putting the sensual in nonconsensual
Shadow Knife	Posted - 2009.01.07 11:22:00 - [18] The fact that he is in a two man corp means that He is probably not a macro miner. Macro miners generally stay in NPC corps. He may not speak english well, or just wants to ignore you.
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.01.07 12:06:00 - [19] Ignore it. CCP do. After all, they are paying to play, aren't they?
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.01.07 12:19:00 - [20] Threads like this are why I will probably never move my mining division out of the npc corp. Simplistic warderc mechanics + group of emokids with gunz + moms cc + evetimecode + sell gtc in Jita for lots of wardec iskies = Big ***ing target for making a player corp on my op for no tangible gain past letting nubs with reallife social issues try to kill me for the lulz. Now don't get me wrong if thats how you want to play the game then by all means play it that way just don't be suprised if I a) don't roll over and let you gank me or b) call you out for what you really are: Ganktards who think popping helpless miners is the pinnicle of peeveepee. So you want to impress me? Go wardec a mining corp with like you know combat* pilots or something in it then set up a nice trap to kill off any combat reinforcements that show up after you toasted thier mining op. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan

VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2009.01.07 12:33:00 - [21] ccp doesn't care... You could try suicide ganking him. If he sends you a hatemail in somewhat proper English or German or something then its not likely to be a bot.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.01.07 12:38:00 - [22] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto ccp doesn't care... You could try suicide ganking him. If he sends you a hatemail in somewhat proper English or German or something then its not likely to be a bot. Heh, drop the suspected witch into a bit of deep water tied to a weighted chair and if she doesn't drown then the charge of witchcraft was confirmed so pull her out and untie her then go burn her at the stake. Oh she drowned? Charges cleared then and may God guide her soul into Heaven. Never thought Eve would have Puritans in Space tbqfh.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.07 12:54:00 - [23] To be sure he isn't just some AFK miner doing his thing, send him multiple messages in chat and email over a period of time (spaced out reasonably so that if he was AFK he'd have to come back). Obviously if you see him hauling away toward a station and then coming back to the belt, he is active and awake and at the screen, so if you are messaging him before, during and after that - he has no excuse for ignoring it. Now, for the content of the messages -- simply state that you are concerned he may be an isk farmer / isk seller and that if you he does not reply to you within a certain amount of time, you are going to open fire. And after a number of spaced-out warnings, have at it. At least, that's what I'd suggest if you want to do something about an isk farmer/seller without risking screwing up some poor guy's night who just doesn't see your message, spends a lot of time AFK or is just really shy and not talkative.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Veto.	Posted - 2009.01.07 13:02:00 - [24] Edited by: Thuul''Khalat on 07/01/2009 13:06:05 Originally by: Qordel he has no excuse for ignoring it. Why of course he does. He might just not be interrested in talking to random locals. All of the "proof" prestented as to him being a bot can easily be applied to anyone in game. I am usually on at roughly the same time every day. (Evening) I pretty much do the same things every day. (Kill stuff with fir... well..) I pretty much tend to annoy people with my actions. (OMFG YOU NOOB YOU KILLED MY PIXELS!! RABBLERABBLE) I don't reply to random people evemailing me, and most of the time have autoreject turned on. I'm a bot!! \o/
Captain Pompous	Posted - 2009.01.07 13:21:00 - [25] Originally by: Qordel To be sure he isn't just some AFK miner doing his thing, send him multiple messages in chat and email over a period of time (spaced out reasonably so that if he was AFK he'd have to come back). Obviously if you see him hauling away toward a station and then coming back to the belt, he is active and awake and at the screen, so if you are messaging him before, during and after that - he has no excuse for ignoring it. Now, for the content of the messages -- simply state that you are concerned he may be an isk farmer / isk seller and that if you he does not reply to you within a certain amount of time, you are going to open fire. And after a number of spaced-out warnings, have at it. At least, that's what I'd suggest if you want to do something about an isk farmer/seller without risking screwing up some poor guy's night who just doesn't see your message, spends a lot of time AFK or is just really shy and not talkative. Fail, pal. I hate talking to people in local AND getting messages from randoms - those are deleted instantly, regardless of their content. Quote: At least, that's what I'd suggest if you want to do something about an isk farmer/seller without risking screwing up some poor guy's night who just doesn't see your message, spends a lot of time AFK or is just really shy and not talkative. And what happens if English is not their first language eh? Tsk tsk.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.07 13:41:00 - [26] Evemail me with his name, where he mines and what time he mines at, if he's close enough and I'm bored it will be dealt with.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.07 14:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Edited by: Thuul''Khalat on 07/01/2009 13:06:05 Originally by: Qordel he has no excuse for ignoring it. Why of course he does. He might just not be interrested in talking to random locals. Then he gets blown up and the original poster can feel better about himself if he had any qualms of attacking someone that might not be what he thinks they are as he will have given the guy the benefit of the doubt and performed some due-diligence. If you ignore direct contact warning that you're going to be fired on if you don't at least acknowledge the person, then the price for being that ridiculously anti-social is getting blown up. Pretty simple. -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.07 14:04:00 - [28] Edited by: Qordel on 07/01/2009 14:04:14 Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Qordel To be sure he isn't just some AFK miner doing his thing, send him multiple messages in chat and email over a period of time (spaced out reasonably so that if he was AFK he'd have to come back). Obviously if you see him hauling away toward a station and then coming back to the belt, he is active and awake and at the screen, so if you are messaging him before, during and after that - he has no excuse for ignoring it. Now, for the content of the messages -- simply state that you are concerned he may be an isk farmer / isk seller and that if you he does not reply to you within a certain amount of time, you are going to open fire. And after a number of spaced-out warnings, have at it. At least, that's what I'd suggest if you want to do something about an isk farmer/seller without risking screwing up some poor guy's night who just doesn't see your message, spends a lot of time AFK or is just really shy and not talkative. Quote: Fail, pal. I hate talking to people in local AND getting messages from randoms - those are deleted instantly, regardless of their content. As I mentioned above, if you're so anti-social that you won't even acknowledge the guy's attempts to verify that you're not a bot then settle for being attacked. At least the guy made an effort before firing on you. Not that I don't understand the desire not to be talkative in channel or acknowledge people. But I certainly would if I thought I was going to be shot at and I was defenseless. Quote: At least, that's what I'd suggest if you want to do something about an isk farmer/seller without risking screwing up some poor guy's night who just doesn't see your message, spends a lot of time AFK or is just really shy and not talkative. And what happens if English is not their first language eh? Tsk tsk. I'm pretty sure you can manage some vague response, even if English is only your second language. -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
Confuzer Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2009.01.07 14:19:00 - [29] Edited by: Confuzer on 07/01/2009 14:20:04 Is it a Dread? Does it mine Veldspar? Then it's not bot, just someone with 80 accounts and no life at all. You can't beat things with no life, so just give up then ;)
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2009.01.07 14:31:00 - [30] just steal his can and see what he does. if he talks. otherwise just rob his can.. and get free isk.



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