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Pouncer Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.01.08 04:23:00 - [1] All four systems in CCP's booth are Macs running the premium client around 45-60 fps (extreme shadow quality, but no HDR). They did a bit of station orbiting, warping around, light PVP, etc. I saw two minor graphical glitches over the course of an hour or so (and I do mean minor - nothing like what people complain about here), but it looked pretty smooth and solid to me. The systems are Mac Pro towers with a single 8800GT card running a 30" cinema display at native resolution (2560x1600). When I asked about running it on a MacBook Pro, they said it was around 35 fps last November, but should be faster now. The clients are all connected to a private test server, but CCP hopes to get a beta out by the end of the month, with a final release around March.
Rees Noturana AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.08 06:20:00 - [2] Excellent. Thanks for the update. We should be getting that dev blog any day now...
Ami Nia Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.08 06:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Rees Noturana Excellent. Thanks for the update. We should be getting that dev blog any day now... Like ... in a couple of weeks. Sorry. Could not resist.
Real Poison Minmatar Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.01.08 07:28:00 - [4] finally some news about that :) so it seems they'll plan to release it with the march update so we can see t3 and wormhole extreme in its full glory. :) not exactly my definition of "SOON", but at least it's something. bring on the beta!
Commander Excelsior	Posted - 2009.01.08 09:58:00 - [5] steal one of those macpros and ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn !!!(don't care 'bout displays) [Evasive maneuvering V]
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.08 11:59:00 - [6] Hey it's Q1!
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2009.01.08 12:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Hey it's Q1! Damn! /shakes fist, you beat me to it. Originally by: AkRoYeR ...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die! Best game ever!
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.08 12:35:00 - [8] I wonder what performance they will see with HDR. I also hope that: + They will have an option to span multiple screens with one client. + Multiple instance will easily cohabitate. + The beta will be usable on Tranquility. + They'll utilize multiple cores. + They'll utilize multiple cards. + CCP will actually talk to US. You know, the actually existing OSX community in EVE. -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.08 13:02:00 - [9] Any rumors if classic will be updated?
Shin Chogan Gallente Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.01.08 14:17:00 - [10] Originally by: Real Poison finally some news about that :) so it seems they'll plan to release it with the march update so we can see t3 and wormhole extreme in its full glory. :) not exactly my definition of "SOON", but at least it's something. bring on the beta! Yep ... check the news article about the March 10th patch ... includes a Premium Mac client in the boxed version ;)
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.08 14:49:00 - [11] So this just means that the beta is on the disc I can just imagine the first day of mac premium CCP: "Well we didn't anticipate that"
Erakyn Big Orange Cog	Posted - 2009.01.08 14:54:00 - [12] \o/ Bring on the beta!
Zargyl	Posted - 2009.01.08 15:16:00 - [13] YESS!!! A few weeks before: Who would have thought that? The general opinion surely was that the Mac will never get a premium version client .. ans here it is ... soon! WTG CCP! :) The info is not only in Macworld but also now in this press release :) I am relly looking forward to this expension! Especially those new missions does seem quite nice! :)
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.01.08 15:19:00 - [14] Considering the risks they are taking on the PR... I look forward to the strong possibility of the majority of you people eating your words. : O ) Course I could end up eating my words as well... but I'd say the odds are in my favor this time. =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.08 16:49:00 - [15] Edited by: Verite Rendition on 08/01/2009 16:49:21 I'd still like to see them park the client at a POS and then see how many frames they get. The client is CPU limited, not GPU limited - shadows and high resolutions aren't what make the client grind to a halt right now. And of course, it would be nice if they told us this stuff instead of letting us find out 2nd-hand from people at Macworld...
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.08 16:53:00 - [16] Why do PR when you have others to do it for you. Imagine the saving they get from NOT posting about it on their website!
Soleramnus Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.08 19:49:00 - [17] March 10 is the date with destiny people. Cross your fingers, don't hold your breath.
Shadowfigt	Posted - 2009.01.08 20:44:00 - [18] Ok so now they announced that EvE premium for mac will come at the release of the 10th expansion on march 10'th, but they say it's gonna be able in retail box, so what i don't get is, do we mac users have to pay for a retail box to get the premium, and if so, why do we have to pay when the windows users got it for free? Please tell me how to understand it, if we can DL the mac premium or if it will only be included in the retail boxes
Shadowfigt	Posted - 2009.01.08 20:45:00 - [19] Oh btw, this is what is says; "A new Premium graphics client for Mac will also be included in the retail box."
Remus Navillum z3r0 Gravity	Posted - 2009.01.08 21:32:00 - [20] I would have sex with all this beta clients.

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2009.01.08 21:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Shadowfigt Ok so now they announced that EvE premium for mac will come at the release of the 10th expansion on march 10'th, but they say it's gonna be able in retail box, so what i don't get is, do we mac users have to pay for a retail box to get the premium, and if so, why do we have to pay when the windows users got it for free? Please tell me how to understand it, if we can DL the mac premium or if it will only be included in the retail boxes You will be able to download premium for mac on March 10th. You do not need to buy anything, unless you want to. I will certainly buy it, I like boxes.

Ocularus Dothumiter	Posted - 2009.01.09 00:59:00 - [22] So how does one proqure a copy of this Premium for mac? Will it be on SiSi (which i can never seem to connect to)?
aubreymaturin	Posted - 2009.01.09 01:28:00 - [23] So what will be the minimum premium config for MacBook Pro? I have the original Intel 2.0Ghz with this ... ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 128MB of GDDR3 SDRAM and dual-link DVI and 2G memory.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.09 02:20:00 - [24] Originally by: CCP Casqade Originally by: Shadowfigt Ok so now they announced that EvE premium for mac will come at the release of the 10th expansion on march 10'th, but they say it's gonna be able in retail box, so what i don't get is, do we mac users have to pay for a retail box to get the premium, and if so, why do we have to pay when the windows users got it for free? Please tell me how to understand it, if we can DL the mac premium or if it will only be included in the retail boxes You will be able to download premium for mac on March 10th. You do not need to buy anything, unless you want to. I will certainly buy it, I like boxes. Totally. Presuming Sun does not lay my ass off by March 10th and assuming that you guys will distribute it through Amazon, I will be buying a box. Maybe two.
Ardoreal	Posted - 2009.01.09 05:41:00 - [25] Well in order for Cider to run it, I'm assuming that the Macs they used were some jacked up liquid-nitrogen-cooled Mac Pro's using hacked nVidia cards with an OC on those too. That...and it was probably set at 640x480 to get 50-60 fps.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.09 06:34:00 - [26] I would like to know if this will run on anything other than a "supernew mac". Can we "old" intel machines even consider running it? How about light laptops (macbook, air) surely it won't run, but will classic be more efficient?
Commander Excelsior	Posted - 2009.01.09 09:24:00 - [27] Originally by: Ardoreal Well in order for Cider to run it, I'm assuming that the Macs they used were some jacked up liquid-nitrogen-cooled Mac Pro's using hacked nVidia cards with an OC on those too. That...and it was probably set at 640x480 to get 50-60 fps. <3 i'll not be angry if i can get one of those :D I'm glad Mister Casqade came back to real life and, Mods, sorry, i may have pushed the wrong button :D

CCP Whisper	Posted - 2009.01.09 10:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer I would like to know if this will run on anything other than a "supernew mac". Can we "old" intel machines even consider running it? How about light laptops (macbook, air) surely it won't run, but will classic be more efficient? The current "benchmark system" we are using to determine minimum acceptable performance is a late 2006 iMac 2.0 GHz Core 2 Dup with an X1600 128Mb graphics card running the game at 1280x800. One of the things we are in the process of compiling, and which we will be asking for community input on during the beta, is a table of all Mac hardware with suggested settings for optimal performance. While I can't guarantee that you will get high framerates on the X1600 chipset, the game should be playable. Our core graphics team is also working on more client refinements that will allow you to tailor the graphics and effects quality. This is part of the work for Apocrypha, so you should be able to tweak client settings more effectively to get the balance of quality and performance that is right for you.

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.09 11:17:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Whisper The current "benchmark system" we are using to determine minimum acceptable performance is a late 2006 iMac 2.0 GHz Core 2 Dup with an X1600 128Mb graphics card running the game at 1280x800. Do you mean that's the benchmark system for premium or both premium and classic? I just happen to have a late 2006 imac with 256mb X1600, so this info would be rather interesting for me. Even more so, because i'm running the classic now in 1680x1050 and it's "good enough" for me (even though it's not a marvellous performance).

CCP Whisper	Posted - 2009.01.09 11:36:00 - [30] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Originally by: CCP Whisper The current "benchmark system" we are using to determine minimum acceptable performance is a late 2006 iMac 2.0 GHz Core 2 Dup with an X1600 128Mb graphics card running the game at 1280x800. Do you mean that's the benchmark system for premium or both premium and classic? I just happen to have a late 2006 imac with 256mb X1600, so this info would be rather interesting for me. Even more so, because i'm running the classic now in 1680x1050 and it's "good enough" for me (even though it's not a marvellous performance). That is the benchmark system for Premium. The Premium engine is actually quite a bit more efficient than the Classic engine, especially following some of the optimisations which came out of the work of getting it to play well with Cider.


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