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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:47:00 -
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Hello again all... after creating my first golem thread in April of last year, i figured it was about time i updated from what i gave and mentioned there with better stats. I do all this in-game as i like to give out actual game stats with no hesitation that im BS'ing heh
I'll list the various setup Names so its clearer for people to see what that specific setup was designed in mind for, and this is just to help people out with their golem setups, as im seeing another flurish of im sorry to say, poor golem setups again appear hear and there.
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MEGA Boosting #2
This is just to show people just how much this thing can boost, and yes you need the 4th amp, it adds over 300HP for boosting otherwise i wouldn't even have added it.
Ship Resists :
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Shield Booster Stats :
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Ship Stats with different rigs :
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T2 shield boost Stats :
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Average Standard PVE Setup :
This is just your cookie cutter setup for a golem really not much to be said about it.
Ship Resists :
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Shield Booster Stats :
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Ship Resists with core defence capacitor Rigs :
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Shield Booster with core defence capacitor rigs :
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T2 shield Booster Stats :
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Jamming Prevention :
This is to give people an idea how best to prevent an easierly jammable golem to not quite so easy and still able to tank pretty good with the damage output still. This still doesn't prevent falcons from jamming you, but you most likely wont be perma jammed, and you'll still be able to lock targets even with the jams.
Ship Stats Config 1 :
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Shield Booster Stats :
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T2 Shield booster stats :
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Ship Stats Config 2 :
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Ship Stats Config 3
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All Tank Setup :
This is a setup made for just pure tanking, 4 hardners with boosting power combined with the right rigs and endless 800s to keep that sucka tanking to infinity. The 2 large containers in your cargohold make you able to hold more 800s then just putting the 800s in your cargo, so this way is more effective.
Cans In cargo :
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Shield Boost stats :
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Ship Resists :
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T2 shield Booster :
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:48:00 -
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Devist8r
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:52:00 -
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Awesome setup bro  |
Cap Articas
Caldari
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:03:00 -
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Hmmm, monkeys and cheese
by the way killer setups you got there m8
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
5ynergy Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 11/01/2009 03:00:59
Hello.
I'm not bashing your set ups or any thing or saying that your set ups arent any good. The amount of money that set up costs is kinda dumb. I under stand you like care free easy mission running and all. Judging by just the pictures alone you clearly have the best of every thing in game. Pith A-type is like 5bill last time i checked, it looks like you have 2 officer invulnerability fields, Cadlari navy Ballistic controls, andn caldari navy launchers. I'm just taking an educated guess here but that ship with the set up is near..... 11 bill. its kool you have the isk and what not but holy crap.
Personally I use this set up.
Golem Tech 2
Highs
4x Siege II ( normal torps and javs )
3x tractor beams
Med
1x lg Shield booster II
2x Shield boost amp II
1x Target painter II
3x active hardeners II the mission requires
Low
3x Ballistic control unit II
1x Cap power relay II
Riggs
Hydrolic Bay thruster I
Rocket fuel I
Drones
5x Hammer head II
5x Hobgoblin II
dose any lvl 4 mission with ease. Just need to know what the triggers are. 2-3 Volleys BS, 1 Volley battle cruisers, 2-3 volleys cruisers or drones kill them, and silly rabbit drones are for friggs......LOL
Setup is NOT cap stable. I know you like it when it is b/c u dnt have to pay attention but when you start making 30 mill or so and hour (depends appon the mission) you will love it.
I use a lg thon shield booster and a thon amp, a PWNAGE target painter, and 3 Caldari navy ballistic control. My grouped alpha against no resis is 6645 damage. With a full set of low grade crystals, with marauders of 4, thons large shield booster and thons amp, I rep 646 shields every 3.5 sec.
Have a nice day,
Tols
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Opertone
Caldari
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:17:00 -
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don't want to sound like heresy, but perma tank and tank is irrelevant
GANK, more volley damage and more target painting... those who want to tank just don't get the idea of mission running / NPC killing.
If you were in a plex you'd need some tank, but in mission pocket it's gank gank and aggro management
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
5ynergy Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:54:00 -
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Hence the reason for 3 ballistic controls, target painters, and torps.
ohhh yea for got to mention in my last post that with hydrolic bay thruster, rocket fuel riggs, and implats for flight time to torps, normal t1 torps hit at 42km and jav torps hit at 62km. so range is not an issue.
My preference is running missions in Amarr in the domain region b/c angles, sanshas, and bloods actualy ****with in the 40km range for the tractor beams to do there job. Or my personal preference is to use an orca for salvage b/c of its 80km tractor beam range and the massive cargo n what not. |
Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:56:00 -
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Thanks guys for the replies, apreciated even to the guy who didn't like my setups all that much!!
Tolsimir Wolfblood, yep i am using faction stuff and i did mention that i did along with a full set of high grade crystals, but your faction setup with thons is not T2 either is it heh... and your guess on how much isk my golem is worth is WAAAY off, just go to the contracts and you can pick up a pith a-type xlarge booster between 700-900mil. your thinking of gist a-type and pith x-type boosters which i do not have.
Navy ballistics and navy launchers are VERY cheap to buy man, and quite frankly, if your going to be using a golem you be pretty silly not to use AT LEAST navy launchers simply because of the rate of fire, (golem does not have a rof bonus) and fitting requirements could be tough. The fact that you ONLY need 4 launchers makes it VERY cheap, not like a CNR where u need 7 of the things.
And please dont forget, i did do T2 shield booster stats on pretty much every setup i posted for a comparison.
11 bil tho lol... navy sieges only around 55mil. |
Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
5ynergy Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:08:00 -
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I appoligise your absoluty correct. I was thinking of the gist booster and officer invulns. I like Lg Boosters b/c of my damage out put with torps is high enough were i dnt need the uber boosting. I like your set ups dnt get me wrong i just got ur mods confused.
do u use cruise missiles for missions like in your pics? if so then y?
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:13:00 -
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absolutely NO apology needed my friend heh... as for what i use for missions, cruise, its too difficult to get the range right i find, even with T2 rigs you really get pushed to make those javelins reach targets but then i dont have max missile skills yet, max i could get javelins to go was 53k with T2 rigs.
Siege launchers i use for pvp. plain and simple unless im runing a complex then i'll use torps then because i'm bookmarked at close range for the rats.
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Opertone
Caldari
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:22:00 -
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very good post, should go in hall of fame
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
5ynergy Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:35:00 -
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Well at the moment with missile bombardment to 5, missile projection to 5, and a Zainou 'Deadeye' ZMC100 (3% to Missile flight time)or a Zainou 'Deadeye' ZML100 (3% to missile speed) t1 torps hit at 42 km and jav torps hit at 62 km. Even better with the 1000s b/c they do 5%
Fitting isnt bad at all truly. With missile rigging to lvl 4, advanced weapons upgrade to lvl 5 and a Hardwiring - Zainou 'Gnome' KTA100 (Lowers the need for launcher CPU by 3%) Every thing fitts. Even better with a 1000 b/c that lowers it by 5%.
I'm not in game atm or I would post some screen shots of my own.
I use it to great efficiency b/c defenders dont kill my torps unlike cruise and i dont need a cap booster b/c of my large shield booster. Not needing a cap booster gives me an extra mid slot for more resis to the damage type or another painter perhaps. Just my thoughts and experiences.
tols
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:41:00 -
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yeah see for me everything is at lvl 4 not 5. Been busy doing my industrial side for the past year 8 months, i'll have to check out those missile implants, might be worth having...
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
5ynergy Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:44:00 -
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I'm a mission runner all the way but it seems miners have a better time to isk ratio. I might have to train that side or start another toon...........IDK
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:59:00 -
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thats only because of the price of the low end ores at the moment, its been happening for a long time now, the belts aren't getting regenerated in high sec... so now you have the problem of all the belts in pretty much most of high sec that are completely bone dry of roids, and taking away the belts in mission running and starter systems really contributed to that, and ppl are still getting lag anyway lol...
Once ccp comes out with the new mining system their talking about, ore might come down in price... But as for the whole isk ratio with missioning, i wouldn't say that, their pretty dead even almost, all depends on skills aswell as what missions the agent descides to throw your way. As you get loot from missions, as well as salvage, and then you have the LP stores ontop of that to make your isk.
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 10:07:00 -
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They seem overtanked... you could get away with a smaller shield booster and use the cap recharge instead of boosters.
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 18:59:00 -
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can never get enough overtanking :)
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:47:00 -
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I'm sure you alreayd know this, but one thing I've noticed is the way you setup your cans in your cargo hold in one of those pics doesn't have enough room for the needed 5 Booster Charges for a full reload on your Cap Booster. Could be easily negated by removing a bit of the ammo/swap with cap boosters in one of the cans.
Other than that though, nice setups. Could have been easier if you had opened up all relevant info windows per setup on one screen instead of multiple screen shots.
SiSi finally mirrored now I can't fly Golems  |
Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:41:00 -
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thanks for the comment Karrade Krise.
Yeah reason being is that i dont use a T2 heavy cap booster, i only use a heavy electrochemical cap booster, which only holds 4 at a time instead of 5, because of the huge fitting requirements needed for a T2 cap booster.
Your right about the no cargospace with the cans in one of the screenshots, yes you definately take out more ammo to fit 4 chargers instead of my 1 800 charge, lol bit of a mistake on my part there, normally i have 4 there, and about fill rest of cargo with ammo.
Hopefully wont take you too long to train it back up on SiSi, good place to learn, thats where i did after numous test runs in FD-MLJ and when factional warfare first hit the test servers. Had an effective 249k HP b4 i poped durring FW with T2 fit.
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.01.12 03:13:00 -
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Are you trying to be Eft?
I mean, your posting pics of what stats your booster has, how lol the resists are, but where are the fittings???
Do you think the game tells other numbers then Eft does?
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2009.01.12 21:19:00 -
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Nope not trying to be EFT at all, i just dont like it that much.
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Leobon
Gallente
Esto Perpetua
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Posted - 2009.01.12 23:26:00 -
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EFT is good for experimental fits i guess. Instead of spending the isk and just throwing it on.
I still think the Golem is still best with torps though.
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