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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
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Posted - 2012.04.18 11:30:00 -
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I feel it prudent to mention that you have many wallets in EVE just use another wallet. Each account has 3 chars with up to 2 wallets. If one wallet is made negative just use the other 5 that you have. ie get another char to do your business involving isk while using contracts to move goods.
You can also save your bounty on rats by setting your corp tax to 100%, you can also just use corp wallet to do any eve market trading.
Simple's my meerkat friends. |
Namiiine
NubSquad
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 12:04:00 -
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Why is this thread still running?
He biomass'd his toon, he's gone.
He cheated, got caught and paid the price. Good riddance.
But this thread is still going? Let it die.
Another RMTer gone. |
Diva Ex Machina
Son's of The Hammer
The Methodical Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.04.18 12:18:00 -
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Namiiine wrote:Why is this thread still running?
He biomass'd his toon, he's gone.
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If he had his corp would be 'Doomheim'. But I agree, I can't stand it when people cheat to get ahead. |
Rimal Babalu
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:23:00 -
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Actually not harsh at all.
It's true that we scam/troll/gank and generally grief the living daylight from each other but it is all within the game, once you use money to get shinny stuff so you can gain an edge it becomes miraculous, a bit like paying for a cheat code.
In my opinion, even if it is within game rules to be able to buy ISK through PLEX it also amounts to cheating.
The nice side to that is that PvPers get to shoot very shinny stuff flown by total noobs, and I agree that it gives me great pleasure when one of those crosses my path...
There should be a clear information that says to newer players "With proper game experience and relations you will be more badass in a Hurricane than if you jump directly into a Faction fitted Nightmare, so don't waste your money trying to get an edge, just waste your time playing and you'll have it!"
... Then again, CCP makes money and we have adrenaline rushes when peeps buy ISK.
The added crime of buying illegal ISK is encouraging bots, but I am really hoping that CCP will finally eliminate them once and for all!
Btw, if you have negative wallet and want a trusted partner to serve as intermediate to sell your stuff to replenish it, contact me. |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion
Talocan United
340
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Posted - 2012.04.19 04:12:00 -
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Hammerin' Snatch wrote:No thanks, EvE is too much fun to simply quit, if it comes down to it I'll have to roll another toon and mourn the loss of this guy forever...
Did you know you can reroll a character with the same name as a biomassed character, as long as no one else has taken the name it yet?
I've done it twice. |
Faith Patrouette
Careless Carebears Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.04.19 13:25:00 -
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I hope when you biomass this character to bypass the negative wallet, ccp gives the new character on that account the same negative balance..... |
Harrigan VonStudly
The Generic Pirate Corporation
Fusion.
20
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Posted - 2012.04.19 15:04:00 -
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Looks like your snatch got hammered. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
241
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Posted - 2012.04.19 15:11:00 -
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OP is right it is not an appropriate punishment to set his wallet negative.
Now an appropriate punishment would be a perma ban.Same for botusers and all. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
856
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Posted - 2012.04.19 18:33:00 -
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Diva Ex Machina wrote:Namiiine wrote:Why is this thread still running?
He biomass'd his toon, he's gone.
... If he had his corp would be 'Doomheim'. But I agree, I can't stand it when people cheat to get ahead.
Hammerin' Snatch
Doomheim
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.04.19 18:38:00 -
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Make an alt, and grind up enough enough for some ammo, send it to the main and start grinding your way out of the hole.
For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
220
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:44:00 -
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flakeys wrote:OP is right it is not an appropriate punishment to set his wallet negative.
Now an appropriate punishment would be a perma ban.Same for botusers and all.
No way. This is way funnier and probably hurts more. |
Slightly Mental
The Exploration and Survey Collective
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:48:00 -
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Tinu Moorhsum wrote:Hammerin' Snatch wrote:Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.
TLDR; I cheated and got caught and now i'm crying on the forums because I think I should be allowed to make excuses for my cheating and get a second chance. Frankly, I'm glad you got caught. It's people like you who create a market for RMT and indirectly cause the botting which screws up the game for the rest of us. You got what you asked for and you'll find no sympathy here.
+1 |
Msgerbs
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.04.20 05:46:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Neg wallet is hardly a detterent at all come to think of it so I hearby propose any corp wallet get put into negative isk for any players who get caught botting RMT'ng
New griefing tactic: Roll alt. Put alt in corp. Do RMT. Get wallet set negative. GG? |
Thelvan
The Social Club for Us
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 12:34:00 -
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I don't think getting around a negative wallet should be so "easy". If you want to make the character really usable again, you should have to pay it off. So I would say that if you have a negative wallet balance, that any isk you make automatically goes towards the neg balance before it goes to corp tax, unless it is an NPC corp of course, then you pay the NPC corp tax before it goes to fix neg wallet. If you are a CEO or director (or any role that allows you access to take money from a corp wallet), then anything that would have gone into any wallet you have access to goes to fix neg balance. If a player corp is unfortunate/dumb enough to have an RMTer for a director....well, you should know your members better. There should be no way to use a character with a neg wallet unless you are paying off that neg wallet. |
Aesheera
Malum Crusis
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Posted - 2012.04.20 12:51:00 -
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Buying ISK should result in total closure of said account.
No -ISK, no bans of that one character, leaving 2 possible alts there still okay.
A total, irrevocable, closure.
My 0.02 ISK
If it bleeds, kill it.
Malum wants you! |
Aesheera
Malum Crusis
2
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Posted - 2012.04.20 12:54:00 -
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Msgerbs wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Neg wallet is hardly a detterent at all come to think of it so I hearby propose any corp wallet get put into negative isk for any players who get caught botting RMT'ng New griefing tactic: Roll alt. Put alt in corp. Do RMT. Get wallet set negative. GG?
Who exactly gets griefed then?
You do RMT, in order to do significant damage your paying buttloads of cash in order to make the neg hit and hurt.
Sounds like only the RMT'r will be in serious pain, especially when a petition will restore the non-RMT'ers in full.
/facepalm
If it bleeds, kill it.
Malum wants you! |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
92
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Posted - 2012.04.20 14:14:00 -
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Aesheera wrote:Buying ISK should result in total closure of said account.
No -ISK, no bans of that one character, leaving 2 possible alts there still okay.
A total, irrevocable, closure.
My 0.02 ISK
Actually no, an ISK-buyer should be able to repay his depts with CCP by getting back into the black via (legal) PLEX.
It-¦s them he has hurt, after all.
Unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Aesheera
Malum Crusis
3
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:08:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Aesheera wrote:Buying ISK should result in total closure of said account.
No -ISK, no bans of that one character, leaving 2 possible alts there still okay.
A total, irrevocable, closure.
My 0.02 ISK Actually no, an ISK-buyer should be able to repay his depts with CCP by getting back into the black via (legal) PLEX. It-¦s them he has hurt, after all.
Judging by your signature, I can imagine you'd prefer ban > closure.
Imo, breaking the EULA and feeding the RMT is reason enough to implement a account wide perma ban.
If it bleeds, kill it.
Malum wants you! |
Atalius Vinelgo
The Long Kiss Goodnight
Rise Against All
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:52:00 -
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I'd do what someone suggested and create another character and have that guy fight along side the new account. You can at least use his skills and keep him training. One day you will have enough money to pay it all back, just get the new account up and ready to do incursions, you will make it back in no time. |
Quiby San
Nex quod Principatus
SRS.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 01:43:00 -
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I bet half of the people in this thread RMT themself and just enjoy slapping someone who got caught around to make their own ego feel better. GÖÑ
It seems to be pretty lucrative to the sellers anyway, else they'd probably already lost any economy interest in it at all.
Just saying! |
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
92
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Posted - 2012.04.21 07:43:00 -
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Aesheera wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Aesheera wrote:Buying ISK should result in total closure of said account.
No -ISK, no bans of that one character, leaving 2 possible alts there still okay.
A total, irrevocable, closure.
My 0.02 ISK Actually no, an ISK-buyer should be able to repay his depts with CCP by getting back into the black via (legal) PLEX. It-¦s them he has hurt, after all. Judging by your signature, I can imagine you'd prefer ban > closure. Imo, breaking the EULA and feeding the RMT is reason enough to implement a account wide perma ban.
That was a forum thing, moderation can be quite... tight here sometimes as we all know, so it-¦s more like a badge of honor (kind of Purple Heart for the valiant forum warrior I guess...)
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Ativan Loko
15 Minute Outliers
Novus Dominatum
3
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:09:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:It's funnier to neg wallet them and watch them struggle for a couple of months (and pay subs) before they give up.
Good riddance to fail rubbish.
+1 |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core
Fatal Ascension
629
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Posted - 2012.04.23 05:53:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:That was a forum thing, moderation can be quite... tight here sometimes as we all know, so it-¦s more like a badge of honor (kind of Purple Heart for the valiant forum warrior I guess...)
You can get a forum ban for talking smack, just because someone reported you.
I had a sig(the same sig)for quite a while before losing mine.
Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:34:00 -
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Hammerin' Snatch wrote:Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.
If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?
I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...
Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...
My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.
Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.
Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?
I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?
So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.
I just don't agree with this form of punishment.
Thanks
Edit:
Going to Biomass Hammer.
My own fault for cheating, I deserve as much as I get.
Sorry everyone.
Fly safe o7
sorry, sweety pie, but yes, you are definitely a very, naughty boy!!!! never buy PLEX from a non-sanctioned CCP site.
And the punishment suits the crime. If you bought say 10 billion worth of Plexes, your negative wallet will be the same. The only way to get it back to positive is to either (a) get a second account so it can make iskies and then send it to your 1st account aka Hammer's or (b) get an alt made on Hammer's account and start doing the same as (a)
I wouldn't biomass Hammer if he's such an epic character and you put so much effort into him. how hard was it for you to train him and make him start blitzing level 4 missions? nothing's impossible in eve. good luck Hammer |
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:36:00 -
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Hammerin' Snatch wrote:Daisai wrote:Quit the game and let CCP deal with that they lost another player.
Heh... No thanks, EvE is too much fun to simply quit, if it comes down to it I'll have to roll another toon and mourn the loss of this guy forever...
don't biomass yourself. get going on an alt and start blitzing missions!!!! |
Anamaniac
New Eden Shipyard CO.
Lemniskate
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:07:00 -
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I was wondering what happened to Hammerin' Snatch.I guess I should have kept him and not sold him off after creating him...R.I.P. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
Exhale.
367
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:57:00 -
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as for sellers tax, make a noob alt and trade him **** to sell
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Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2012.07.06 10:07:00 -
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Sounds like you got off too easy.
Permanent ban is what you deserve. |
Bethany Ring
Reverberation Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.07.06 10:44:00 -
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Ghost Xray wrote:Sounds like you got off too easy.
Permanent ban is what you deserve.
You should be banned for not agreeing with CCP policy. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings
Ushra'Khan
208
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Posted - 2012.07.06 11:31:00 -
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Hammerin' Snatch wrote:Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.
If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?
I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...
Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...
My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.
Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.
Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?
I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?
So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.
I just don't agree with this form of punishment.
Thanks
Edit:
Going to Biomass Hammer.
My own fault for cheating, I deserve as much as I get.
Sorry everyone.
Fly safe o7
From the context of your post, it seems like you bought a single PLEX but your wallet got negated by billions.
I thought CCP only sets your wallet to the negative amount of whatever you RMT'd for? Such as if you RMT 500 billion your wallet is set to -500 billion? Did they increase the punishment in the last couple years while I've been gone?
I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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