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Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:20:00 - [121] Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:26:08 Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:24:50 Sapage you define moron....Try to grow up. A) I said nothing to you or your force in local. B) I think we all Saw clear video of me not running VS 15 CA and 1 me. C) You attacked A2-V27 twice yesterday, the first time i left about 3 minutes before you even came, I was at safe spot while I went on a Rescue call IRL, as it was my neighbors life in trouble, so yes im sorry i missed that battle. The second time you came in with 5 Scorps, 1 Raven, 1 vigil ... and no telling what else. If you think that we outnumbered you are plain dumb try learning to count, we had 4 battleships. 1 BB, 2 inty's.... You were in a frig the first time, so you have no room to talk, you risk nothing... _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:20:00 - [122] Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:26:08 Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:24:50 Sapage you define moron....Try to grow up. A) I said nothing to you or your force in local. B) I think we all Saw clear video of me not running VS 15 CA and 1 me. C) You attacked A2-V27 twice yesterday, the first time i left about 3 minutes before you even came, I was at safe spot while I went on a Rescue call IRL, as it was my neighbors life in trouble, so yes im sorry i missed that battle. The second time you came in with 5 Scorps, 1 Raven, 1 vigil ... and no telling what else. If you think that we outnumbered you are plain dumb try learning to count, we had 4 battleships. 1 BB, 2 inty's.... You were in a frig the first time, so you have no room to talk, you risk nothing... _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Estios	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:35:00 - [123] Corps > Alliances Many alliances start out with good intentions and then get too big and this leads to conflicts of interests and leads to inhouse bickering. Gathering like minded individuals and culling deadwood is much easier as a Corp. If I must pick one I pick Norad because I have absolutely no idea who they are but they all vote for themselves on any poll Ive ever seen so they must rock. So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Estios	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:35:00 - [124] Corps > Alliances Many alliances start out with good intentions and then get too big and this leads to conflicts of interests and leads to inhouse bickering. Gathering like minded individuals and culling deadwood is much easier as a Corp. If I must pick one I pick Norad because I have absolutely no idea who they are but they all vote for themselves on any poll Ive ever seen so they must rock. So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:35:00 - [125] Originally by: Tommy Boy Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:26:08 Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:24:50 Sapage you define moron....Try to grow up. A) I said nothing to you or your force in local. B) I think we all Saw clear video of me not running VS 15 CA and 1 me. C) You attacked A2-V27 twice yesterday, the first time i left about 3 minutes before you even came, I was at safe spot while I went on a Rescue call IRL, as it was my neighbors life in trouble, so yes im sorry i missed that battle. The second time you came in with 5 Scorps, 1 Raven, 1 vigil ... and no telling what else. If you think that we outnumbered you are plain dumb try learning to count, we had 4 battleships. 1 BB, 2 inty's.... You were in a frig the first time, so you have no room to talk, you risk nothing... You were not running because you were warp scrambled/webbified. and allow me to be blunt here, but the CFS, the majority of them are PvP challenged. I don't think less of them for that, this game aint all about PvP. But try not to kid yourself and others on the forums that CFS own the CA in combat. I usually wouldn't make such a statement (honest :D) but i felt you needed putting in place mate. Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:35:00 - [126] Originally by: Tommy Boy Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:26:08 Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:24:50 Sapage you define moron....Try to grow up. A) I said nothing to you or your force in local. B) I think we all Saw clear video of me not running VS 15 CA and 1 me. C) You attacked A2-V27 twice yesterday, the first time i left about 3 minutes before you even came, I was at safe spot while I went on a Rescue call IRL, as it was my neighbors life in trouble, so yes im sorry i missed that battle. The second time you came in with 5 Scorps, 1 Raven, 1 vigil ... and no telling what else. If you think that we outnumbered you are plain dumb try learning to count, we had 4 battleships. 1 BB, 2 inty's.... You were in a frig the first time, so you have no room to talk, you risk nothing... You were not running because you were warp scrambled/webbified. and allow me to be blunt here, but the CFS, the majority of them are PvP challenged. I don't think less of them for that, this game aint all about PvP. But try not to kid yourself and others on the forums that CFS own the CA in combat. I usually wouldn't make such a statement (honest :D) but i felt you needed putting in place mate. Reverend Necrona
Sochin	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:36:00 - [127] Originally by: Star Commander Big alliances are all about one thing. You get a bunch of SHEEP together. You grab as much as u can. And say "THIS IS OURS, STAY AWAY" Pretty much speaks for itself.... How is this different from a RL country claiming and defending territory? Alliances are about controlling a segment of 0.0 space. One corporation is not enough of hold even a single system, so corps with similar interests naturally came together to jointly occupy and defend part of 0.0 space. Empire carebears really can't seem to grasp the concept of claiming space. They're like the Linux nerds of EVE, thinking everything should be free and shared. But instead of making useful software, they just whine and make things difficult for others. Nemo me impune lacessit
Sochin	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:36:00 - [128] Originally by: Star Commander Big alliances are all about one thing. You get a bunch of SHEEP together. You grab as much as u can. And say "THIS IS OURS, STAY AWAY" Pretty much speaks for itself.... How is this different from a RL country claiming and defending territory? Alliances are about controlling a segment of 0.0 space. One corporation is not enough of hold even a single system, so corps with similar interests naturally came together to jointly occupy and defend part of 0.0 space. Empire carebears really can't seem to grasp the concept of claiming space. They're like the Linux nerds of EVE, thinking everything should be free and shared. But instead of making useful software, they just whine and make things difficult for others. Nemo me impune lacessit
Baun	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:39:00 - [129] Sorry to sound jaded but does anyone get tired of these thinly veiled threads whose only purpose seems to be to allow everyone to toot their own horn. I congratulate those who did not fall into that trap and tried to be honest and objective but I am really getting tired of these types of threads on every forum (especially this one). Best PVP Best Alliance Most Famous Most Important Greastest Impact What has EVER lead anyone to believe that the EVE community, as it stands now, is mature enough to be accurately self-reflexive? Having known the answer to that question a priore WHY start more threads like this on a continual basis? The Enemy's Gate is Down
Baun	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:39:00 - [130] Sorry to sound jaded but does anyone get tired of these thinly veiled threads whose only purpose seems to be to allow everyone to toot their own horn. I congratulate those who did not fall into that trap and tried to be honest and objective but I am really getting tired of these types of threads on every forum (especially this one). Best PVP Best Alliance Most Famous Most Important Greastest Impact What has EVER lead anyone to believe that the EVE community, as it stands now, is mature enough to be accurately self-reflexive? Having known the answer to that question a priore WHY start more threads like this on a continual basis? The Enemy's Gate is Down
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:54:00 - [131] Originally by: Baun Sorry to sound jaded but does anyone get tired of these thinly veiled threads whose only purpose seems to be to allow everyone to toot their own horn. I congratulate those who did not fall into that trap and tried to be honest and objective but I am really getting tired of these types of threads on every forum (especially this one). Best PVP Best Alliance Most Famous Most Important Greastest Impact What has EVER lead anyone to believe that the EVE community, as it stands now, is mature enough to be accurately self-reflexive? Having known the answer to that question a priore WHY start more threads like this on a continual basis? caus some people just like starting a discussion on a topic everyone has an opinion on Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:54:00 - [132] Originally by: Baun Sorry to sound jaded but does anyone get tired of these thinly veiled threads whose only purpose seems to be to allow everyone to toot their own horn. I congratulate those who did not fall into that trap and tried to be honest and objective but I am really getting tired of these types of threads on every forum (especially this one). Best PVP Best Alliance Most Famous Most Important Greastest Impact What has EVER lead anyone to believe that the EVE community, as it stands now, is mature enough to be accurately self-reflexive? Having known the answer to that question a priore WHY start more threads like this on a continual basis? caus some people just like starting a discussion on a topic everyone has an opinion on Sass Arcane Technologies
Sochin	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:58:00 - [133] I think we got some fairly candid responses here. I wrote my honest opinion about every alliance I knew. Not every is just tooting their own horn. Nemo me impune lacessit
Sochin	Posted - 2004.07.27 15:58:00 - [134] I think we got some fairly candid responses here. I wrote my honest opinion about every alliance I knew. Not every is just tooting their own horn. Nemo me impune lacessit
Baun	Posted - 2004.07.27 16:19:00 - [135] Edited by: Baun on 27/07/2004 16:37:29 Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Baun Sorry to sound jaded but does anyone get tired of these thinly veiled threads whose only purpose seems to be to allow everyone to toot their own horn. I congratulate those who did not fall into that trap and tried to be honest and objective but I am really getting tired of these types of threads on every forum (especially this one). Best PVP Best Alliance Most Famous Most Important Greastest Impact What has EVER lead anyone to believe that the EVE community, as it stands now, is mature enough to be accurately self-reflexive? Having known the answer to that question a priore WHY start more threads like this on a continual basis? caus some people just like starting a discussion on a topic everyone has an opinion on Yes an opinion which is already explicitly known given their employment. That said, I don't have any general problem with threads like this except that having known that the vast majority of people are incapable of compartamentalizing themselves, one knowns a priore that such a thread is doomed to be either entirely or partially hollow, which is why in this context (that of an online game ... not just this one) I find them rather infuriating. If all one wants is an opinion poll then one ought to disqualify alliance members (and pray they don't use alts). That said, starting a discussion like this, open to those who are emotionally involved, without posing a logical question (either explicitly, by leaving our requisite definitions or implicitly by introducing inherently emotional qualifications) serves absolutely no purpose. One can never resolve this sort of question, which means that such a discussion can only exacerbate tension or at the best serve to clarify nothing, which means that such a discussion will have been a waste of time, serving noone and fueled and perpetuated only by psychological inadequacy. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Baun	Posted - 2004.07.27 16:19:00 - [136] Edited by: Baun on 27/07/2004 16:37:29 Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Baun Sorry to sound jaded but does anyone get tired of these thinly veiled threads whose only purpose seems to be to allow everyone to toot their own horn. I congratulate those who did not fall into that trap and tried to be honest and objective but I am really getting tired of these types of threads on every forum (especially this one). Best PVP Best Alliance Most Famous Most Important Greastest Impact What has EVER lead anyone to believe that the EVE community, as it stands now, is mature enough to be accurately self-reflexive? Having known the answer to that question a priore WHY start more threads like this on a continual basis? caus some people just like starting a discussion on a topic everyone has an opinion on Yes an opinion which is already explicitly known given their employment. That said, I don't have any general problem with threads like this except that having known that the vast majority of people are incapable of compartamentalizing themselves, one knowns a priore that such a thread is doomed to be either entirely or partially hollow, which is why in this context (that of an online game ... not just this one) I find them rather infuriating. If all one wants is an opinion poll then one ought to disqualify alliance members (and pray they don't use alts). That said, starting a discussion like this, open to those who are emotionally involved, without posing a logical question (either explicitly, by leaving our requisite definitions or implicitly by introducing inherently emotional qualifications) serves absolutely no purpose. One can never resolve this sort of question, which means that such a discussion can only exacerbate tension or at the best serve to clarify nothing, which means that such a discussion will have been a waste of time, serving noone and fueled and perpetuated only by psychological inadequacy. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Kulach	Posted - 2004.07.27 16:58:00 - [137] Edited by: Kulach on 27/07/2004 16:59:07 Originally by: Estios If I must pick one I pick Norad because I have absolutely no idea who they are but they all vote for themselves on any poll Ive ever seen so they must rock. Good one Estios! Made me laugh anyway... Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Kulach	Posted - 2004.07.27 16:58:00 - [138] Edited by: Kulach on 27/07/2004 16:59:07 Originally by: Estios If I must pick one I pick Norad because I have absolutely no idea who they are but they all vote for themselves on any poll Ive ever seen so they must rock. Good one Estios! Made me laugh anyway... Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Ron Jeremy2K	Posted - 2004.07.27 17:27:00 - [139] Originally by: Tommy Boy Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:26:08 Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:24:50 Sapage you define moron....Try to grow up. A) I said nothing to you or your force in local. B) I think we all Saw clear video of me not running VS 15 CA and 1 me. C) You attacked A2-V27 twice yesterday, the first time i left about 3 minutes before you even came, I was at safe spot while I went on a Rescue call IRL, as it was my neighbors life in trouble, so yes im sorry i missed that battle. The second time you came in with 5 Scorps, 1 Raven, 1 vigil ... and no telling what else. If you think that we outnumbered you are plain dumb try learning to count, we had 4 battleships. 1 BB, 2 inty's.... You were in a frig the first time, so you have no room to talk, you risk nothing... this has what exactly to do with the topic of this thread?
Ron Jeremy2K	Posted - 2004.07.27 17:27:00 - [140] Originally by: Tommy Boy Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:26:08 Edited by: Tommy Boy on 27/07/2004 15:24:50 Sapage you define moron....Try to grow up. A) I said nothing to you or your force in local. B) I think we all Saw clear video of me not running VS 15 CA and 1 me. C) You attacked A2-V27 twice yesterday, the first time i left about 3 minutes before you even came, I was at safe spot while I went on a Rescue call IRL, as it was my neighbors life in trouble, so yes im sorry i missed that battle. The second time you came in with 5 Scorps, 1 Raven, 1 vigil ... and no telling what else. If you think that we outnumbered you are plain dumb try learning to count, we had 4 battleships. 1 BB, 2 inty's.... You were in a frig the first time, so you have no room to talk, you risk nothing... this has what exactly to do with the topic of this thread?
Dirtball	Posted - 2004.07.27 18:45:00 - [141] I like pirates more than alliances
Dirtball	Posted - 2004.07.27 18:45:00 - [142] I like pirates more than alliances
Arkaine	Posted - 2004.07.27 19:19:00 - [143] Originally by: Negotiator Sochin, its quite easy - PA tried telling EVOL what to do. That doesn't work... EVOL are pwning PA. And we got EVOL's back... And all because they shot at Homo Erectus and Xuesia, neither of which died, and wouldn't apologize. We're going to have to work next time to start a major conflict over even less...
Arkaine	Posted - 2004.07.27 19:19:00 - [144] Originally by: Negotiator Sochin, its quite easy - PA tried telling EVOL what to do. That doesn't work... EVOL are pwning PA. And we got EVOL's back... And all because they shot at Homo Erectus and Xuesia, neither of which died, and wouldn't apologize. We're going to have to work next time to start a major conflict over even less...
sapage1	Posted - 2004.07.27 21:06:00 - [145] i am going to stop now before i take this post of the rails. BTW the reason you did not run from 15 CA was becasue you were hit with about 15 points of scram and 3 or 4 webbies. ___________________________________________________
sapage1	Posted - 2004.07.27 21:06:00 - [146] i am going to stop now before i take this post of the rails. BTW the reason you did not run from 15 CA was becasue you were hit with about 15 points of scram and 3 or 4 webbies. ___________________________________________________
Ithildin	Posted - 2004.07.27 23:27:00 - [147] Edited by: Ithildin on 27/07/2004 23:30:28 Originally by: Ph0enix CVA: The only alliance in EVE to contain 0 smacktalkers. Great fun to fight and generally well-mannered, fun people. DOH! We've got one. No, wait... she/he joined Corp 1 after being upset about something or other... Originally by: Woetra Xif coz they started out from far behind in a dead region with no stations and no experience but finished up with some prime real estate and have developed fleet combat to the point where mining lasers are no longer worshipped as gods. /me notes ATUK as most liked corporation. I started liking these guys DURING a fight against them O_o See you in gang-chat in 0.0 space near you, guys ;) (btw, ATUK were probably XF's best tutors in fleet combat) Originally by: Star Commander Big alliances are all about one thing. You get a bunch of SHEEP together. You grab as much as u can. And say "THIS IS OURS, STAY AWAY" Pretty much speaks for itself.... You should see Primer Xenius' personal hangars in our HQ... -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please.
Ithildin	Posted - 2004.07.27 23:27:00 - [148] Edited by: Ithildin on 27/07/2004 23:30:28 Originally by: Ph0enix CVA: The only alliance in EVE to contain 0 smacktalkers. Great fun to fight and generally well-mannered, fun people. DOH! We've got one. No, wait... she/he joined Corp 1 after being upset about something or other... Originally by: Woetra Xif coz they started out from far behind in a dead region with no stations and no experience but finished up with some prime real estate and have developed fleet combat to the point where mining lasers are no longer worshipped as gods. /me notes ATUK as most liked corporation. I started liking these guys DURING a fight against them O_o See you in gang-chat in 0.0 space near you, guys ;) (btw, ATUK were probably XF's best tutors in fleet combat) Originally by: Star Commander Big alliances are all about one thing. You get a bunch of SHEEP together. You grab as much as u can. And say "THIS IS OURS, STAY AWAY" Pretty much speaks for itself.... You should see Primer Xenius' personal hangars in our HQ... -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.07.28 01:41:00 - [149] Quote: You should see Primer Xenius' personal hangars in our HQ... I collect livestock..so?! "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.07.28 01:41:00 - [150] Quote: You should see Primer Xenius' personal hangars in our HQ... I collect livestock..so?! "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante

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