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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:45:00 -
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Ender and Dune both share a problem. They both start with 2 amazing books, and then start going down hill. Still, both series are among the best science fiction out there.
Others I'd recommend are Asimov's Foundation, Niven's Ringworld, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars books.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:45:00 -
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Ender and Dune both share a problem. They both start with 2 amazing books, and then start going down hill. Still, both series are among the best science fiction out there.
Others I'd recommend are Asimov's Foundation, Niven's Ringworld, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars books.
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Mi Canio
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Posted - 2004.08.08 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

agreed - Iain M Banks' books are unmissable - just finished look to Winward - great book....... Ensign Mi Canio - MIL Div. - Combat Air Patrol
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Mi Canio
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Posted - 2004.08.08 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

agreed - Iain M Banks' books are unmissable - just finished look to Winward - great book....... Ensign Mi Canio - MIL Div. - Combat Air Patrol
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Elissen
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Posted - 2004.08.08 21:13:00 -
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I just love Dune
I tend to do things the other way around . I started with playing the dune games, first Dune 2 and then Dune (both on a 386 or 486). After that Dune 2000 and Emperor: battle for dune. Then came the movies the original, the miniseries from 2000 (?), Children of Dune.
A couple of weeks ago, in my vacation, I started reading the books and I'm reading Messiah atm. Wonderful books to read. I got the English version on purpose (I'm Dutch myself). Not sure why, but I bad translations (mostly from tv-series) make me resent translated things.
But I am going to put Enders Game on my list for sure 
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Elissen
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Posted - 2004.08.08 21:13:00 -
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I just love Dune
I tend to do things the other way around . I started with playing the dune games, first Dune 2 and then Dune (both on a 386 or 486). After that Dune 2000 and Emperor: battle for dune. Then came the movies the original, the miniseries from 2000 (?), Children of Dune.
A couple of weeks ago, in my vacation, I started reading the books and I'm reading Messiah atm. Wonderful books to read. I got the English version on purpose (I'm Dutch myself). Not sure why, but I bad translations (mostly from tv-series) make me resent translated things.
But I am going to put Enders Game on my list for sure 
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Just remember that if the books are written in English but yet translated to your native language, buy the English versions for it looses less feeling to it, translations are never as good as the original language.
At least I get that feal when I read translated books but then again it might be because Icelandic doesnt allow so much playing with words nor has such massive words as English does  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Just remember that if the books are written in English but yet translated to your native language, buy the English versions for it looses less feeling to it, translations are never as good as the original language.
At least I get that feal when I read translated books but then again it might be because Icelandic doesnt allow so much playing with words nor has such massive words as English does  Spawn of the Devil
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:23:00 -
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but EVERYONE should also read all the books in the Uplift series by David Brin.
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:23:00 -
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but EVERYONE should also read all the books in the Uplift series by David Brin.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:29:00 -
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dorsai.. sf military startegy.. sweet.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:29:00 -
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dorsai.. sf military startegy.. sweet.
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DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 15:41:00 -
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there are now 12 books in the dune series
you have the original 6 by frank herbert
then 5 complete 1 still being written of the prequals to the dune universe by his son and kevin j anderson.
They first did house atradies, house harkkonen and house corrino. Telling the story of how duke leto atradies grew up and became duke of house atradies and how house harkkonen became really nasty.
Now they are almost finished writing the butlerian jihad series wich is another 3 books unfortunatly only 2 have been released so far. But i have to say they are extremely well written.
Its all about the wars of humans against machines
And how house atradies comes from a Cymek machine the most evil machines in existance
worth the read 
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DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 15:41:00 -
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there are now 12 books in the dune series
you have the original 6 by frank herbert
then 5 complete 1 still being written of the prequals to the dune universe by his son and kevin j anderson.
They first did house atradies, house harkkonen and house corrino. Telling the story of how duke leto atradies grew up and became duke of house atradies and how house harkkonen became really nasty.
Now they are almost finished writing the butlerian jihad series wich is another 3 books unfortunatly only 2 have been released so far. But i have to say they are extremely well written.
Its all about the wars of humans against machines
And how house atradies comes from a Cymek machine the most evil machines in existance
worth the read 
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:42:00 -
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son, are you trying to start world war three here? 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:42:00 -
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son, are you trying to start world war three here? 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

now, you ARE trying to start world war three 
but i agree with you 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

now, you ARE trying to start world war three 
but i agree with you 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Shootemup
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Posted - 2004.08.09 17:44:00 -
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I think all sci-fi series run into a chaotic void where the author feels he has to add stuff just for the heck of it, leaving behind the initial good books. Dune (read the first three - the rest only if you want to get confused), Foundation (Again, the first three - the sequels and prequels can safely be ignored, except there is an interesting link from the Elijah Bailey books to Foundation and Earth), Ender's Game (the first two, then it deteriorates). Uplift Saga does perhaps not suffer from the problem; I am not sure.
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Shootemup
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Posted - 2004.08.09 17:44:00 -
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I think all sci-fi series run into a chaotic void where the author feels he has to add stuff just for the heck of it, leaving behind the initial good books. Dune (read the first three - the rest only if you want to get confused), Foundation (Again, the first three - the sequels and prequels can safely be ignored, except there is an interesting link from the Elijah Bailey books to Foundation and Earth), Ender's Game (the first two, then it deteriorates). Uplift Saga does perhaps not suffer from the problem; I am not sure.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 20:15:00 -
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There are only 3 authors I know of that can promise and provide a mental beat down.
Chuck Palahniuk, Frank Herbert, and Robert Heinlein. After reading Diary and Fight Club I dreamt in "psychovision", eveything by Herbert keeps me awake at night questioning every fiber of everything I see and do. Hienlien makes me question evey ounce of american morality... and really heavely despise Organized Religion... wait, no that was Herbert Wait, no, that was heinlien. AGGGGHHHHHHG!!!!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 20:15:00 -
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There are only 3 authors I know of that can promise and provide a mental beat down.
Chuck Palahniuk, Frank Herbert, and Robert Heinlein. After reading Diary and Fight Club I dreamt in "psychovision", eveything by Herbert keeps me awake at night questioning every fiber of everything I see and do. Hienlien makes me question evey ounce of american morality... and really heavely despise Organized Religion... wait, no that was Herbert Wait, no, that was heinlien. AGGGGHHHHHHG!!!!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.08.09 21:26:00 -
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Lets not forget, there is styill a book missing from the original dune saga.
What was the scattering running away from.....
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.08.09 21:26:00 -
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Lets not forget, there is styill a book missing from the original dune saga.
What was the scattering running away from.....
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Operator 9 |

DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 22:58:00 -
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That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
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DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 22:58:00 -
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That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
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Dawnstar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 23:09:00 -
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I've read both the Dune series and Ender. Ender's Game is about my second favorite sci-fi book. Unfortunately, I didn't find the rest of the series quite as good although not too bad. The Dune books are pretty decent.
There are a couple of series I enjoyed more than those though and which I highly recommend. The top one is the Honor Harrington series by David Weber (the first book is On Basilisk Station) and number two is the Hope series by David Feintuch (sp?) (Midshipman's Hope is the first).
One last book I'll bring up as being my all-time sci-fi favorite is The Mote in God's Eye (Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle). -D
Proposal for Overhauling Manufacturing. |

Dawnstar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 23:09:00 -
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I've read both the Dune series and Ender. Ender's Game is about my second favorite sci-fi book. Unfortunately, I didn't find the rest of the series quite as good although not too bad. The Dune books are pretty decent.
There are a couple of series I enjoyed more than those though and which I highly recommend. The top one is the Honor Harrington series by David Weber (the first book is On Basilisk Station) and number two is the Hope series by David Feintuch (sp?) (Midshipman's Hope is the first).
One last book I'll bring up as being my all-time sci-fi favorite is The Mote in God's Eye (Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle). -D
Proposal for Overhauling Manufacturing. |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.10 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: DoZ3r That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
I pray Brian doesnt touch Dune 7. F. Herbert was well into writing it before he died, and Brian will ruin what could be a perfectly acceptable mind blowing mental beat down. The greatest thing abut herbert isn't the dune series, its the novels like Destination: Void, the White Plague, and God Makers. All B. Herbert can do is build on his father's mistique, but he cant seem to build his own.
Rant over.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.10 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: DoZ3r That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
I pray Brian doesnt touch Dune 7. F. Herbert was well into writing it before he died, and Brian will ruin what could be a perfectly acceptable mind blowing mental beat down. The greatest thing abut herbert isn't the dune series, its the novels like Destination: Void, the White Plague, and God Makers. All B. Herbert can do is build on his father's mistique, but he cant seem to build his own.
Rant over.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
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