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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Rob Mattacks on 26/07/2004 15:03:26 Hi, I recently found more time to read again and reading these forums made me think to start to read a series of sci-fi books. I have seen the dune saga and ender's saga (orsen scott card ? sp?)mentioned and recomemended. Would it be better to read one saga before the other ? do you folks have a preference ? any other sci-fi saga's you think would be a better choice ?
I have not read many sci-fi books so i dont really know anything about the style of the author's or type of book etc so any advice would be appreciated. I kinda like dark material also 
Cheers
edit: i have just been bought the book Redemption Ark (Alastair Reynolds) and was wondering is this a standalone book or part of a series ?
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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Rob Mattacks on 26/07/2004 15:03:26 Hi, I recently found more time to read again and reading these forums made me think to start to read a series of sci-fi books. I have seen the dune saga and ender's saga (orsen scott card ? sp?)mentioned and recomemended. Would it be better to read one saga before the other ? do you folks have a preference ? any other sci-fi saga's you think would be a better choice ?
I have not read many sci-fi books so i dont really know anything about the style of the author's or type of book etc so any advice would be appreciated. I kinda like dark material also 
Cheers
edit: i have just been bought the book Redemption Ark (Alastair Reynolds) and was wondering is this a standalone book or part of a series ?
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IZON
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:03:00 -
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You can't go wrong with the Enders' saga, starting off with Enders Game - one hell of a classic.
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |

IZON
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:03:00 -
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You can't go wrong with the Enders' saga, starting off with Enders Game - one hell of a classic.
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.26 23:18:00 -
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DUNE! I live eat slepp and breathe Dune. I dream in Arrakavision, too. Nothing beats Paul-Muad'dib and Harkonnen killing goodness. BTW, Harry Potter is a vile Harkonnen! He is, look at his damned House sybol. He's a Harkonnen I tell you!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.26 23:18:00 -
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DUNE! I live eat slepp and breathe Dune. I dream in Arrakavision, too. Nothing beats Paul-Muad'dib and Harkonnen killing goodness. BTW, Harry Potter is a vile Harkonnen! He is, look at his damned House sybol. He's a Harkonnen I tell you!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Muad' Dib
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Posted - 2004.07.26 23:43:00 -
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Muad' Dib
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Posted - 2004.07.26 23:43:00 -
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Kennian
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Posted - 2004.07.27 00:02:00 -
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weeeeellll
the orignal dune is outstanding, but after that...it starts to go down hill, it's like the writer decided he didnt like the first book and changed history in the second. the books cover six thousand years of history, people appear and dissipear, major plot points evaporate.....realy unprofessional in my oppinion.
however, ender is extremely well written. very good stuff, i'd start with it..
also i'd reccomend Muteneer's moon <sp> series and Honor herrington by david weber, <i think> both very good scifi...
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Kennian
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Posted - 2004.07.27 00:02:00 -
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weeeeellll
the orignal dune is outstanding, but after that...it starts to go down hill, it's like the writer decided he didnt like the first book and changed history in the second. the books cover six thousand years of history, people appear and dissipear, major plot points evaporate.....realy unprofessional in my oppinion.
however, ender is extremely well written. very good stuff, i'd start with it..
also i'd reccomend Muteneer's moon <sp> series and Honor herrington by david weber, <i think> both very good scifi...
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kennian weeeeellll
the orignal dune is outstanding, but after that...it starts to go down hill, it's like the writer decided he didnt like the first book and changed history in the second. the books cover six thousand years of history, people appear and dissipear, major plot points evaporate.....realy unprofessional in my oppinion.
however, ender is extremely well written. very good stuff, i'd start with it..
also i'd reccomend Muteneer's moon <sp> series and Honor herrington by david weber, <i think> both very good scifi...
Thats because Frank Herbert did it intentionally. The history preceding Dune is written to make the Corrino's look good. The history touched upon in Dune Massiah and Children of Dune is mostly about Muad'Dib's Great Jihad. God Emporer was way to short, and it had NO history. Finally, you have Chapter House and Heritics. The history in there is all screwy because no one knows the truth anymore. The pint Herbert was making is ALL history is revisionist. No mater what, the victorious write it, and thier enemies twist it.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kennian weeeeellll
the orignal dune is outstanding, but after that...it starts to go down hill, it's like the writer decided he didnt like the first book and changed history in the second. the books cover six thousand years of history, people appear and dissipear, major plot points evaporate.....realy unprofessional in my oppinion.
however, ender is extremely well written. very good stuff, i'd start with it..
also i'd reccomend Muteneer's moon <sp> series and Honor herrington by david weber, <i think> both very good scifi...
Thats because Frank Herbert did it intentionally. The history preceding Dune is written to make the Corrino's look good. The history touched upon in Dune Massiah and Children of Dune is mostly about Muad'Dib's Great Jihad. God Emporer was way to short, and it had NO history. Finally, you have Chapter House and Heritics. The history in there is all screwy because no one knows the truth anymore. The pint Herbert was making is ALL history is revisionist. No mater what, the victorious write it, and thier enemies twist it.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.07.27 18:04:00 -
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Thanks for replies. Think i will read the ender saga first but will give both a go
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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.07.27 18:04:00 -
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Thanks for replies. Think i will read the ender saga first but will give both a go
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Anatolius
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Posted - 2004.07.27 22:13:00 -
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Read both. In the case of the Dune Chronicles, a functional brain is required after the first book - far less action, more talk of politics, sociology, social engineering, topics that cannot be mentioned or they'd pretty much give spoilers, et cetera. 
Keep up through Dune Messiah, I'd say it's probably the weakest book of the series. It only gets better after that. Children of Dune is brilliant, God Emperor even moreso - though you'll either love or hate God Emperor. Heretics and Chapterhouse are where the series begins to wrap up nicely. More importantly, if you didn't like God Emperor for some crazy reason, they're nothing like it. 
Unfortunately, Herbert kind of had an encounter with this guy wearing a fruity cape and carrying a scythe, so there are a few loose ends left over after Chapterhouse. With a bit of thought, however, you can guess fairly well where the end was leading.
Herbert's son and another author whose name I can't recall have been working on a series of prequels to the Dune Chronicles; do not read these first. I'm not normally one to scream my head off about sacred canon, but in my opinion, the prequels could easily destroy Frank Herbert's work for you if read first.
Originally by: Muad' Dib ....
Bi-la kaifa.  --- Having recently acquired a lab slot (thank you, rental bug), I wholeheartily concur, there's absolutely no problem with lab slots! |

Anatolius
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Posted - 2004.07.27 22:13:00 -
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Read both. In the case of the Dune Chronicles, a functional brain is required after the first book - far less action, more talk of politics, sociology, social engineering, topics that cannot be mentioned or they'd pretty much give spoilers, et cetera. 
Keep up through Dune Messiah, I'd say it's probably the weakest book of the series. It only gets better after that. Children of Dune is brilliant, God Emperor even moreso - though you'll either love or hate God Emperor. Heretics and Chapterhouse are where the series begins to wrap up nicely. More importantly, if you didn't like God Emperor for some crazy reason, they're nothing like it. 
Unfortunately, Herbert kind of had an encounter with this guy wearing a fruity cape and carrying a scythe, so there are a few loose ends left over after Chapterhouse. With a bit of thought, however, you can guess fairly well where the end was leading.
Herbert's son and another author whose name I can't recall have been working on a series of prequels to the Dune Chronicles; do not read these first. I'm not normally one to scream my head off about sacred canon, but in my opinion, the prequels could easily destroy Frank Herbert's work for you if read first.
Originally by: Muad' Dib ....
Bi-la kaifa.  --- Having recently acquired a lab slot (thank you, rental bug), I wholeheartily concur, there's absolutely no problem with lab slots! |

Vidtorin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 23:29:00 -
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Haven't read the Dune books, but the Ender's series is just amazing. READ IT! <--- these new smilies are cute.
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Vidtorin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 23:29:00 -
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Haven't read the Dune books, but the Ender's series is just amazing. READ IT! <--- these new smilies are cute.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.07.28 01:11:00 -
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I just read Enders game, what are the other books titles?
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.07.28 01:11:00 -
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I just read Enders game, what are the other books titles?
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Vidtorin
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Posted - 2004.07.28 11:36:00 -
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Wrangler, do you mean in the Ender's series? Then it's (in this order): Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind. I would also reccommend the story about Bean and the aftermath of the war with the books of: Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, Shadowpuppets. All are great reads.
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Vidtorin
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Posted - 2004.07.28 11:36:00 -
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Wrangler, do you mean in the Ender's series? Then it's (in this order): Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind. I would also reccommend the story about Bean and the aftermath of the war with the books of: Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, Shadowpuppets. All are great reads.
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Poldarn Joaq
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:40:00 -
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I agree with Anatolius. The Dune books are superb but take a bit of thinking through. Also you often find a new slant on the storys every time you read them ---------------
Thats no moon!!
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Poldarn Joaq
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:40:00 -
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I agree with Anatolius. The Dune books are superb but take a bit of thinking through. Also you often find a new slant on the storys every time you read them ---------------
Thats no moon!!
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:35:00 -
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By far, very far, the Culture books

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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:35:00 -
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By far, very far, the Culture books

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Fighterpilotjp
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:08:00 -
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I read all the Ender's Saga books, and I loved them all. Ender's Shadow was good too, and maybe it's just me, but I didn't enjoy Shadow of the Hegemon as much as I did the others. I've got Shadow Puppets sitting on the shelf waiting to be read eventually. |

Fighterpilotjp
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:08:00 -
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I read all the Ender's Saga books, and I loved them all. Ender's Shadow was good too, and maybe it's just me, but I didn't enjoy Shadow of the Hegemon as much as I did the others. I've got Shadow Puppets sitting on the shelf waiting to be read eventually. |

Projected
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Posted - 2004.08.08 07:34:00 -
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I found Legacy of Heoroth also an good book to read
When you dream, there are no rules. People can fly. Anything can happen. |

Projected
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Posted - 2004.08.08 07:34:00 -
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I found Legacy of Heoroth also an good book to read
When you dream, there are no rules. People can fly. Anything can happen. |

Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:45:00 -
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Ender and Dune both share a problem. They both start with 2 amazing books, and then start going down hill. Still, both series are among the best science fiction out there.
Others I'd recommend are Asimov's Foundation, Niven's Ringworld, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars books.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:45:00 -
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Ender and Dune both share a problem. They both start with 2 amazing books, and then start going down hill. Still, both series are among the best science fiction out there.
Others I'd recommend are Asimov's Foundation, Niven's Ringworld, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars books.
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Mi Canio
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Posted - 2004.08.08 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

agreed - Iain M Banks' books are unmissable - just finished look to Winward - great book....... Ensign Mi Canio - MIL Div. - Combat Air Patrol
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Mi Canio
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Posted - 2004.08.08 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

agreed - Iain M Banks' books are unmissable - just finished look to Winward - great book....... Ensign Mi Canio - MIL Div. - Combat Air Patrol
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Elissen
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Posted - 2004.08.08 21:13:00 -
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I just love Dune
I tend to do things the other way around . I started with playing the dune games, first Dune 2 and then Dune (both on a 386 or 486). After that Dune 2000 and Emperor: battle for dune. Then came the movies the original, the miniseries from 2000 (?), Children of Dune.
A couple of weeks ago, in my vacation, I started reading the books and I'm reading Messiah atm. Wonderful books to read. I got the English version on purpose (I'm Dutch myself). Not sure why, but I bad translations (mostly from tv-series) make me resent translated things.
But I am going to put Enders Game on my list for sure 
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Elissen
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Posted - 2004.08.08 21:13:00 -
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I just love Dune
I tend to do things the other way around . I started with playing the dune games, first Dune 2 and then Dune (both on a 386 or 486). After that Dune 2000 and Emperor: battle for dune. Then came the movies the original, the miniseries from 2000 (?), Children of Dune.
A couple of weeks ago, in my vacation, I started reading the books and I'm reading Messiah atm. Wonderful books to read. I got the English version on purpose (I'm Dutch myself). Not sure why, but I bad translations (mostly from tv-series) make me resent translated things.
But I am going to put Enders Game on my list for sure 
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Just remember that if the books are written in English but yet translated to your native language, buy the English versions for it looses less feeling to it, translations are never as good as the original language.
At least I get that feal when I read translated books but then again it might be because Icelandic doesnt allow so much playing with words nor has such massive words as English does  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Just remember that if the books are written in English but yet translated to your native language, buy the English versions for it looses less feeling to it, translations are never as good as the original language.
At least I get that feal when I read translated books but then again it might be because Icelandic doesnt allow so much playing with words nor has such massive words as English does  Spawn of the Devil
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:23:00 -
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but EVERYONE should also read all the books in the Uplift series by David Brin.
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:23:00 -
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but EVERYONE should also read all the books in the Uplift series by David Brin.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:29:00 -
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dorsai.. sf military startegy.. sweet.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2004.08.09 11:29:00 -
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dorsai.. sf military startegy.. sweet.
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DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 15:41:00 -
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there are now 12 books in the dune series
you have the original 6 by frank herbert
then 5 complete 1 still being written of the prequals to the dune universe by his son and kevin j anderson.
They first did house atradies, house harkkonen and house corrino. Telling the story of how duke leto atradies grew up and became duke of house atradies and how house harkkonen became really nasty.
Now they are almost finished writing the butlerian jihad series wich is another 3 books unfortunatly only 2 have been released so far. But i have to say they are extremely well written.
Its all about the wars of humans against machines
And how house atradies comes from a Cymek machine the most evil machines in existance
worth the read 
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DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 15:41:00 -
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there are now 12 books in the dune series
you have the original 6 by frank herbert
then 5 complete 1 still being written of the prequals to the dune universe by his son and kevin j anderson.
They first did house atradies, house harkkonen and house corrino. Telling the story of how duke leto atradies grew up and became duke of house atradies and how house harkkonen became really nasty.
Now they are almost finished writing the butlerian jihad series wich is another 3 books unfortunatly only 2 have been released so far. But i have to say they are extremely well written.
Its all about the wars of humans against machines
And how house atradies comes from a Cymek machine the most evil machines in existance
worth the read 
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:42:00 -
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son, are you trying to start world war three here? 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:42:00 -
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son, are you trying to start world war three here? 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

now, you ARE trying to start world war three 
but i agree with you 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.08.09 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bele gorri
By far, very far, the Culture books

now, you ARE trying to start world war three 
but i agree with you 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Shootemup
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Posted - 2004.08.09 17:44:00 -
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I think all sci-fi series run into a chaotic void where the author feels he has to add stuff just for the heck of it, leaving behind the initial good books. Dune (read the first three - the rest only if you want to get confused), Foundation (Again, the first three - the sequels and prequels can safely be ignored, except there is an interesting link from the Elijah Bailey books to Foundation and Earth), Ender's Game (the first two, then it deteriorates). Uplift Saga does perhaps not suffer from the problem; I am not sure.
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Shootemup
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Posted - 2004.08.09 17:44:00 -
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I think all sci-fi series run into a chaotic void where the author feels he has to add stuff just for the heck of it, leaving behind the initial good books. Dune (read the first three - the rest only if you want to get confused), Foundation (Again, the first three - the sequels and prequels can safely be ignored, except there is an interesting link from the Elijah Bailey books to Foundation and Earth), Ender's Game (the first two, then it deteriorates). Uplift Saga does perhaps not suffer from the problem; I am not sure.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 20:15:00 -
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There are only 3 authors I know of that can promise and provide a mental beat down.
Chuck Palahniuk, Frank Herbert, and Robert Heinlein. After reading Diary and Fight Club I dreamt in "psychovision", eveything by Herbert keeps me awake at night questioning every fiber of everything I see and do. Hienlien makes me question evey ounce of american morality... and really heavely despise Organized Religion... wait, no that was Herbert Wait, no, that was heinlien. AGGGGHHHHHHG!!!!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 20:15:00 -
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There are only 3 authors I know of that can promise and provide a mental beat down.
Chuck Palahniuk, Frank Herbert, and Robert Heinlein. After reading Diary and Fight Club I dreamt in "psychovision", eveything by Herbert keeps me awake at night questioning every fiber of everything I see and do. Hienlien makes me question evey ounce of american morality... and really heavely despise Organized Religion... wait, no that was Herbert Wait, no, that was heinlien. AGGGGHHHHHHG!!!!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.08.09 21:26:00 -
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Lets not forget, there is styill a book missing from the original dune saga.
What was the scattering running away from.....
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.08.09 21:26:00 -
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Lets not forget, there is styill a book missing from the original dune saga.
What was the scattering running away from.....
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Operator 9 |

DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 22:58:00 -
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That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
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DoZ3r
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Posted - 2004.08.09 22:58:00 -
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That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
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Dawnstar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 23:09:00 -
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I've read both the Dune series and Ender. Ender's Game is about my second favorite sci-fi book. Unfortunately, I didn't find the rest of the series quite as good although not too bad. The Dune books are pretty decent.
There are a couple of series I enjoyed more than those though and which I highly recommend. The top one is the Honor Harrington series by David Weber (the first book is On Basilisk Station) and number two is the Hope series by David Feintuch (sp?) (Midshipman's Hope is the first).
One last book I'll bring up as being my all-time sci-fi favorite is The Mote in God's Eye (Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle). -D
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Dawnstar
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Posted - 2004.08.09 23:09:00 -
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I've read both the Dune series and Ender. Ender's Game is about my second favorite sci-fi book. Unfortunately, I didn't find the rest of the series quite as good although not too bad. The Dune books are pretty decent.
There are a couple of series I enjoyed more than those though and which I highly recommend. The top one is the Honor Harrington series by David Weber (the first book is On Basilisk Station) and number two is the Hope series by David Feintuch (sp?) (Midshipman's Hope is the first).
One last book I'll bring up as being my all-time sci-fi favorite is The Mote in God's Eye (Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle). -D
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.10 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: DoZ3r That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
I pray Brian doesnt touch Dune 7. F. Herbert was well into writing it before he died, and Brian will ruin what could be a perfectly acceptable mind blowing mental beat down. The greatest thing abut herbert isn't the dune series, its the novels like Destination: Void, the White Plague, and God Makers. All B. Herbert can do is build on his father's mistique, but he cant seem to build his own.
Rant over.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.10 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: DoZ3r That book is suppoose to be in devlopment from frank herberts notes.
After reading the Jihad series of dune my thought is will be the return of the machines 
I pray Brian doesnt touch Dune 7. F. Herbert was well into writing it before he died, and Brian will ruin what could be a perfectly acceptable mind blowing mental beat down. The greatest thing abut herbert isn't the dune series, its the novels like Destination: Void, the White Plague, and God Makers. All B. Herbert can do is build on his father's mistique, but he cant seem to build his own.
Rant over.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |

Gahan Makdorr
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Posted - 2004.08.11 10:59:00 -
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You should give Asimov's Foundations, Empire and Robots universum a try. Those books are quite amazing and initially those 2 universums were seperate, then later on Asimov tried to merge all of them together and created a big unicerse that descirebs the next 20K something human history. It is pretty enjoyable, though takes a lot of time to read if u want to read em all. I would definetly suggest to read all his Robots works. They are very creative and just simply amazing materials.
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Gahan Makdorr
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Posted - 2004.08.11 10:59:00 -
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You should give Asimov's Foundations, Empire and Robots universum a try. Those books are quite amazing and initially those 2 universums were seperate, then later on Asimov tried to merge all of them together and created a big unicerse that descirebs the next 20K something human history. It is pretty enjoyable, though takes a lot of time to read if u want to read em all. I would definetly suggest to read all his Robots works. They are very creative and just simply amazing materials.
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Firr
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Posted - 2004.08.11 11:48:00 -
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I'd go with the ender series every time, but then OSC is my fave author along with Douglas Adams (R.I.P. *sob). I found the first 2 of the Ender series were the best, the 2nd maybe even my fave of the lot, but I loved them all. If you like an author that makes you get involved with the characters then OSC is your man, I've read most of his books and enjoyed every one. You might want to try his "Homecoming" series too.
Unfortunately the popularity of the Ender books amongst 'Eve-ites' meant I couldn't get my usual in-game names of Novinha and Valentine and my b/f vcouldn't get Ender, Miro etc etc. 
I managed to bag the name Ouanda for my alt though 
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Firr
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Posted - 2004.08.11 11:48:00 -
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I'd go with the ender series every time, but then OSC is my fave author along with Douglas Adams (R.I.P. *sob). I found the first 2 of the Ender series were the best, the 2nd maybe even my fave of the lot, but I loved them all. If you like an author that makes you get involved with the characters then OSC is your man, I've read most of his books and enjoyed every one. You might want to try his "Homecoming" series too.
Unfortunately the popularity of the Ender books amongst 'Eve-ites' meant I couldn't get my usual in-game names of Novinha and Valentine and my b/f vcouldn't get Ender, Miro etc etc. 
I managed to bag the name Ouanda for my alt though 
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Posted - 2004.08.11 11:55:00 -
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Forgot to mention, OSC's official website can be found here
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Firr
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Posted - 2004.08.11 11:55:00 -
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Forgot to mention, OSC's official website can be found here
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