Originally by: Glaius Orintor

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before they would consider opening another server.

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Originally by: SirDynty

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Edited by: SirDynty on 13/01/2009 10:56:01it already is sharded to hell. Every system is its own "instance" and so are stations....

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Originally by: Captain Politics

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I think that they posted somewhere at a conference that their current setup could handle around 75,000 to 90,000 PCU. If we get that many people, with the coming M10 and WIS exspansion, jita would always be locked down due to the fact that people tend to gather in hubs, in that way Eve is much like the real world = urbanization.

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Originally by: Captain Politics

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I think they posted somewhere that they had around 230 servers running the cluster right now, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Tres Farmer said ôthis is wrong.. eve is NOT sharded..
it is ONE persistent world.. just running on several processors..ö
Eve is sharded as there are two shards, two worlds. In eve you cannot reach and affect every player.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Ancy Denaries said ôSerenity doesn't count, since it's for the chinese guys for legal reasons. So, in all things significant; EVE is ONE shard.ö
That just makes no sense to me. ItÆs another shard with another group of players but we are going to ignore that and still say Eve is one shard!

It might be for legal reasons but itÆs still another world and shard. Eve is no longer one persistent world, its two persistent worlds were 1000Æs of players cannot reach or effect each other.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Concorduck I have never seen anyone define sharded servers like that before. The description I normally come across is " Sometimes a game features a universe which is copied onto different servers, separating players, and this is called a "sharded" universe." thats just what Eve is.

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Originally by: Sheriff Jones

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*grabs guitar*

How many alts must a man log in,
before the hamsters all die.
Yes an' how many petitions must the GMs see,
before server rooms gonna fryyyyy.
Yes an' how many emoragequit-threads-with-complaints-about-everything-possible-under-the-sun-and-piiiiie...*waits*...MUST a player bare,
before Wrangler lets out a siiiiigh!

The answer my friend, is blo...well..not that many actually.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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" Sometimes a game features a universe which is copied onto different servers, separating players, and this is called a "sharded" universe."

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Originally by: Crumplecorn

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Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Concorduck I have never seen anyone define sharded servers like that before. The description I normally come across is " Sometimes a game features a universe which is copied onto different servers, separating players, and this is called a "sharded" universe." thats just what Eve is.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Ancy Denaries said " You really don't get it? Sharded games are sharded for performance reasons"
I do get it, you don't. Sharded games are not always sharded for performance reasons.
Sometimes games are sharded by language, PvP, PvE, role-play or many other reasons. The definition for shared is along the lines of " In sharded games each shard is usually identical, the only difference being that players are limited in that they may only interact with other players on the same shard."
The simple fact is there are two pretty much identical Eve servers where the players cannot interact with each other. That is the very definition of sharded. It doesn't matter why they are sharded just the fact there are two servers and the players cannot interact means that Eve is sharded.



Concorduck said " I Suppose the Starting Variable for Universe Generation for TQ and SE are different, so you have two different universes, with two different gameplays and two different policies. China, not really the HQ of liberty."
Starting variables between shards still mean it's a shard. A rolepaly shard will not be the same as a non role-play shard but it's still a shard. TQ and SE are 99.9% the same in that the ships, skills, tech, equipment, sector layout, what the players can and cannot do, missions and pretty much everything is the same. Shards dont have to be 100% identical. A slight variation to a game but still the same game like SE is just what a shard is. SE is a slight variation of Eve where the players cannot interact with TQ so SE is a shard.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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I do get it, you don't. Sharded games are not always sharded for performance reasons.
Sometimes games are sharded by language, PvP, PvE, role-play or many other reasons. The definition for shared is along the lines of " In sharded games each shard is usually identical, the only difference being that players are limited in that they may only interact with other players on the same shard."
The simple fact is there are two pretty much identical Eve servers where the players cannot interact with each other. That is the very definition of sharded. It doesn't matter why they are sharded just the fact there are two servers and the players cannot interact means that Eve is sharded.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Ancy Denaries said " You really don't get it? Sharded games are sharded for performance reasons"
I do get it, you don't. Sharded games are not always sharded for performance reasons.
Sometimes games are sharded by language, PvP, PvE, role-play or many other reasons. The definition for shared is along the lines of " In sharded games each shard is usually identical, the only difference being that players are limited in that they may only interact with other players on the same shard."
The simple fact is there are two pretty much identical Eve servers where the players cannot interact with each other. That is the very definition of sharded. It doesn't matter why they are sharded just the fact there are two servers and the players cannot interact means that Eve is sharded.



Concorduck said " I Suppose the Starting Variable for Universe Generation for TQ and SE are different, so you have two different universes, with two different gameplays and two different policies. China, not really the HQ of liberty."
Starting variables between shards still mean it's a shard. A rolepaly shard will not be the same as a non role-play shard but it's still a shard. TQ and SE are 99.9% the same in that the ships, skills, tech, equipment, sector layout, what the players can and cannot do, missions and pretty much everything is the same. Shards dont have to be 100% identical. A slight variation to a game but still the same game like SE is just what a shard is. SE is a slight variation of Eve where the players cannot interact with TQ so SE is a shard.

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Originally by: Glaius Orintor

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With what I have been led to believe is the server populations at their highest rates ever, I was wondering how many people can play at one time? Also how many players would CCP allow on one server before they would consider opening another server.

If CCP did ever open another server how many would jump server to start over again and how would the old server cope with probably a high skilled player base with most new people going to the new server.

One way around this might be to have a new server starting like the game did at release, i.e. with very low skill points and keeping the old server with the skill point boost to prevent a total new player slide.

I ask this as I read that EVE is to release a box version, and further more, in response to those who state this game doesn't get coverage, I think you'll find that EVE has constantly sat in the Big Game Hunt of PC Gamer UK for many a year now, and the January 2009 edition had a half page of EVE news on page 11 (4th page in past the adverts really).

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Malcanis said "In a practical sense: you're not, since people can't legally or even practically choose one or the other."
I don't see why that matters. It's still another shard just you cannot choose it.
Just like when I played Hellgate I couldn't play or subscribe to the Southeast Asia shard. Other games only show the shard(s) based on your location. I think it was D&D that only showed the UK shard when I logged in, same for EQ although with EQ you could unlock the other shards. Are games that only show shards by region now all of sudden not classed as shards just because different parts of the world all have their own shard? If a game has two shards but you dont call it sharded as you cannot play on both shards then what do you call it?

It just seems wrong to me to call a game thats clearly got two shards not a sharded game.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Concorduck said " I Suppose the Starting Variable for Universe Generation for TQ and SE are different, so you have two different universes, with two different gameplays and two different policies. China, not really the HQ of liberty."
Starting variables between shards still mean it's a shard. A rolepaly shard will not be the same as a non role-play shard but it's still a shard. TQ and SE are 99.9% the same in that the ships, skills, tech, equipment, sector layout, what the players can and cannot do, missions and pretty much everything is the same. Shards dont have to be 100% identical. A slight variation to a game but still the same game like SE is just what a shard is. SE is a slight variation of Eve where the players cannot interact with TQ so SE is a shard.

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Originally by: Pottsey

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Edited by: Pottsey on 15/01/2009 19:50:08
If Eve Chinese are a different game why do they have the same content and all new content we get they get? Why do all patches we get they also get? Why do they have the same storyline and plot? If all the content is pretty much the same and any mission you can do on TQ you can do on SE it's the same game.

It's not a different game it's a different shard with a very minor difference. Eve is no longer one world it two shards that are 99% the same. 1% diffrance if its even that high is not enough to be classed as a diffrent game. Any new content made for the TQ shard goes onto the SE shard.

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Originally by: me

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The cost of playing on Sserenity (playing EVE Online China) is different compared to TQ too. I doubt the definition of sharding also says "players of each server pay a different amount of $ for suscription".

Edit: The game is also different. Obviously different language, but also different items (China doesn't allow drugs or something)

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Originally by: Ocih

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Is this one of those woodchuck, chucking kind of questions?

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Originally by: Pottsey

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blablabla

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Originally by: "CCP Whisper"

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A subscription on Serenity costs 50RMB for 30 days. You cannot pay by credit card, the only way to get it is either to buy a CDC Games timecard or use Serenity's GTC for ISK system. And before anyone starts the "How come Serenity costs a fraction of what Tranquility costs?!" argument: CCP does not set the price. In China EVE Online is published and operated by CDC Games. They set the price. Smile

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Originally by: 123GuessWho

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well it cant handle 700 pilots in 1 node :x

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