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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:02:00 -
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What do you forum people think the current nullsec politik would be like if Band of Brothers had never been disbanded? |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:04:00 -
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Like it is now, except with a different breed of [insert mean words here] in charge.
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
252
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:06:00 -
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EVE would be a socialist utopia that Gene Roddenberry would be proud of. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
131
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:16:00 -
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I have a feeling less people would be playing |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:17:00 -
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Degren wrote:I have a feeling less people would be playing
Now this is an interesting response. Why would less people be playing?
Because of all the people that joined up because of the story of the disband? I know I probably wouldn't be playing if it weren't for that. |
Brock Nelson
585
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:19:00 -
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When I first started working at Safeway, the store manager used to preach alot about Bob. At first, I thought he was talking about one of the store employee that I've never met but as time goes on, it because more and more apparent that there is no Bob in the store. So, what the **** was the store manager going on about?
It didn't end there, there were even signs about Bob. "Did you check Bob?" "Where's Bob?" I have no ******* idea who the hell is Bob and I don't know what I would be checking for. Even the "total" key on the keyboard had "Bob" sticker on it. Hell... the mirror in where carts would go had a sticker "Is Bob here" with an arrow pointing at the mirror.
So who or what the **** is Bob? After a few years of employment, I finally found out...Bob = Bottom of Basket.
Moral of the story? I don't have one, I hate the name Bob now. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
173
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:21:00 -
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There is no BoB.
Goodbye. |
Zalmun
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:21:00 -
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What about Bob??? |
Jonah Gravenstein
148
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:26:00 -
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Bob? War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
145
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:34:00 -
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It would look pretty much the same as does right now.
BoB was never a conquest Alliance. The stayed in Delve and were happy to be there. BoB was destroyed because of epeen envy. The people who took them apart didnt want what they had, they just didnt want them to have it. |
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:43:00 -
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Bob picked a fight for bad reasons and paid for it~
What could have been is never hidden, and what could have been will never be~ |
Runar Hawk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:44:00 -
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who? |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
619
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:48:00 -
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You're asking this because It Alliance is re-spawning on Dotlan aren't you?
If BOB never disbanded Goons would have something else to do besides ***** about Empire and CSM shenanigans. This game really needs at least two great empires, not just one. If IT tries to become a major player again, they will have their work cut out for them because this is a different EVE now. That being said, their return coinciding with a new expansion involving titan nerfs is probably not coincidence either. They have always had insider information to play with.
Ultimately, meh... Most of us are so sick to death of null sec, goon(dot) and BOB(dot) that I think the mystique is gone forever. No one really gives a **** anymore TBFH.
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Bane Necran
308
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:50:00 -
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Goons would be a little less internet famous. |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
468
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:53:00 -
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Hmm Intradesting I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:56:00 -
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As a first off, what. Is politiks? I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
416
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:56:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Like it is now, except with a different breed of [insert mean words here] in charge.
Like it is now but with more devs in charge of the nul sec in the game
T20 for CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
lanyaie
126
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:57:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Hmm Intradesting
YOUR SIGNATURE......... I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
268
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Posted - 2012.04.17 04:03:00 -
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Then I would have 2 alliances to irritate on the forums.
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Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.04.17 04:30:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:If BOB never disbanded Goons would have something else to do besides ***** about Empire and CSM shenanigans.
I love it when miners talk about nullsec /so/ authoritatively
Goons were doing these things before and after BoB died. |
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
597
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Posted - 2012.04.17 05:29:00 -
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If that big blue blob were still blanketing null sec and all the other null sec players were squeezed onto a small, remaining section? Well, for one all this talk about moving people into null sec wouldn't exist, since non-BoB players would be bumping into each other left and right, deriving satisfaction that there "seems to be a lot of people out here!"
Then, of course, the illusion that BoB could still possibly be fielding enough players to actually hold all that space would still exist. A certain unnamed person wouldn't be trading on his reputation for having cracked an already cracked alliance. So, the star of the day wouldn't be a blip on the map, which is as it should be. (Happy days!)
Let's see...is that enough?
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
81
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Posted - 2012.04.17 05:42:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Bob picked a fight for bad reasons and paid for it~
What could have been is never hidden, and what could have been will never be~
hilarious response.. because the current large concerns in null sec pick fights for good reasons and that's why they are still here?
I need a long shower after posting in this thread. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
198
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Posted - 2012.04.17 06:03:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:If that big blue blob were still blanketing null sec and all the other null sec players were squeezed onto a small, remaining section? Well, for one all this talk about moving people into null sec wouldn't exist, since non-BoB players would be bumping into each other left and right, deriving satisfaction that there "seems to be a lot of people out here!"
Then, of course, the illusion that BoB could still possibly be fielding enough players to actually hold all that space would still exist. A certain unnamed person wouldn't be trading on his reputation for having cracked an already cracked alliance. So, the star of the day wouldn't be a blip on the map, which is as it should be. (Happy days!)
Let's see...is that enough?
What the heck does this even mean, Repose? |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
92
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Posted - 2012.04.17 06:51:00 -
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corestwo wrote:There is no BoB.
Goodbye.
LIES!
BoB was just a puppet alliance of GoonSwarm.
there's connections...I just know there is!
/conspiracytinfoilhat
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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
117
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:44:00 -
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I am the in game spawn of T20.
I can still taste him in my mouth. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
706
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:55:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:What do you forum people think the current nullsec politik would be like if Band of Brothers had never been disbanded? We have CFC |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:04:00 -
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We wouldn't have goons strutting around thinking they brought down an alliance that was already failing and collapsing on it's self
And yes I'm an alt . Cos I'm to lazy to hit the button at to top. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
158
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:05:00 -
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The same fate that happened to IT Alliance |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:31:00 -
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If BoB was never disbanded? Speculation: After the Sov Bill incident Goons would have been attacked, rolled out of nullsec, and fail cascaded. They would have come back of course because they are like herpes that way....annoying, permanent, and disgusting, but you learn to deal with it.
TEST would probably never have gotten off the ground and failed after a few months of wanting to be like big brother Goonie but not quite making it.
The NC would still be rulling the north.
PL would own space.
There would be 4 sides of New Eden instead of 3. North, East, South, and West.
But since this is all just speculation I could be waaayyyy off base.
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Caimeka
Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:39:00 -
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Natassia Krasnoo wrote:If BoB was never disbanded? Speculation: After the Sov Bill incident Goons would have been attacked, rolled out of nullsec, and fail cascaded. They would have come back of course because they are like herpes that way....annoying, permanent, and disgusting, but you learn to deal with it
Yeah we've moved to NPC space a few times and then come back. It happens
Quote: TEST would probably never have gotten off the ground and failed after a few months of wanting to be like big brother Goonie but not quite making it.
Originally TEST wanted nothing to do with us. They just read the map upside down
Quote: The NC would still be rulling the north
PL would own space
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Quote: There would be 4 sides of New Eden instead of 3. North, East, South, and West
But since this is all just speculation I could be waaayyyy off base
Yeah you are
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:43:00 -
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Silence! Needs more tears. |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
230
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:51:00 -
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:) the alliance got deleted, not the people in it...
Here is the thing, BoB reformed to become "IT" so there you have it... oh, and IT died too, but I heard something about IT being reborn recently?, but then you also have Raiden. which is basicly old BoB also... it's all very confusing, but part of the bigger picture... do note I am no expert, I am just recalling this from my memory of old news from way back when |
Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
131
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Posted - 2012.04.17 09:22:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Degren wrote:I have a feeling less people would be playing Now this is an interesting response. Why would less people be playing Because of all the people that joined up because of the story of the disband? I know I probably wouldn't be playing if it weren't for that.
I more feel like the game would have stagnated with little change occurring. Espionage wouldn't have been so lauded in this game, I get the impression that trolling would have been more frowned upon, and that quite a few of the *awesome space updates* wouldn't have happened, in favor of WiS stuff.
This all assumes no one would have riled things up, and the never-been-proven-wrong idea that sandboxes that stagnate eventually become pvp-free barbie games, chat rooms and grindfests for the few remaining people who stick with it. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
1268
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Posted - 2012.04.17 09:36:00 -
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Bubanni wrote::) the alliance got deleted, not the people in it...
Here is the thing, BoB reformed to become "IT" so there you have it... oh, and IT died too, but I heard something about IT being reborn recently?, but then you also have Raiden. which is basicly old BoB also... it's all very confusing, but part of the bigger picture... do note I am no expert, I am just recalling this from my memory of old news from way back when
You forgot Sengoku - and I wouldn't exactly call Raiden. the old BoB - the old BoB (as in the BoB founded after the GNW with lots of former mo0 members in it) was actually pretty cool, then they become sedentary space-farmers, more creative and aggressive pilots left because they didn't enjoy that lifestyle just to be replaced with WTJs etc...etc... You know... morons. |
Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.04.17 10:00:00 -
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BOB was disbanded because they were already at the end of their game. IT was sign that noone should try to look back. Raiden. and NC. the reincarnations of Bob are allready more or less dead. |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
599
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Posted - 2012.04.17 11:29:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Serene Repose wrote:If that big blue blob were still blanketing null sec and all the other null sec players were squeezed onto a small, remaining section? Well, for one all this talk about moving people into null sec wouldn't exist, since non-BoB players would be bumping into each other left and right, deriving satisfaction that there "seems to be a lot of people out here!"
Then, of course, the illusion that BoB could still possibly be fielding enough players to actually hold all that space would still exist. A certain unnamed person wouldn't be trading on his reputation for having cracked an already cracked alliance. So, the star of the day wouldn't be a blip on the map, which is as it should be. (Happy days!)
Let's see...is that enough? What the heck does this even mean, Repose? Ummm....I guess you'd have to been here around '06 or so to get the gist. There are those who do.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
232
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Posted - 2012.04.17 11:52:00 -
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Bring back M0o
http://eve-history.net/wiki/index.php/M0o_Corp !! ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
621
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Posted - 2012.04.17 12:25:00 -
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Lanasak wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:If BOB never disbanded Goons would have something else to do besides ***** about Empire and CSM shenanigans. I love it when miners talk about nullsec /so/ authoritatively Goons were doing these things before and after BoB died.
I love it when people post with NPC alts with no corp history, and pretend to be "relevant". Also, maybe do a little research before you throw dirty words around like "he's a miner". According to battleclinic, for a casual gamer with only 338 kills on this toon, I seem to have somehow scored 153B isk in damage while only losing 3.5B.
P.S. You should not be scared of internet people... it's ok to post with your main you know?
They did that already, and M0o reloaded part II seemed to suck pretty hard, did they not? Something that is liable to happen to IT if they manage to take off again.
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Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
69
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Posted - 2012.04.17 12:49:00 -
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There is not BOB. Only Zuel. Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
64
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Posted - 2012.04.17 13:55:00 -
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It would just have been another massive super-blob funded by RMT/Bots .. forums would have been a lot more interesting though as BoB/Goons sure knew how to keep people entertained. |
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3807
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:06:00 -
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All my intel sources points out that if Bob wasnt disbanned they would have been militarily defeated in 2 years at most but thats a poor estimate since my group doesnt dabble in what ifs of things that are no longer what ifs.
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
686
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:24:00 -
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From my understanding BoB was basically falling apart by the time Goons performed their legendary act of espionage, so it probably wouldn't have changed anything in the long run. Supposedly there are still mirrors of their official forums from back in the day floating around, if you want to read them. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
328
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Posted - 2012.04.17 15:48:00 -
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If BOB was still around, null sec might have some real wars going on. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
272
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:33:00 -
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Xython wrote:From my understanding BoB was basically falling apart by the time Goons performed their legendary act of espionage, so it probably wouldn't have changed anything in the long run. Supposedly there are still mirrors of their official forums from back in the day floating around, if you want to read them.
There was no legendary act of espionage.
There was a little disgruntled director with roles who was fed up with the game and decided to hurt the very alliance he was part of in the most humiliating way. If any other entity would have been more hurtfull he would have coaxed with them to disband BoB.
The only legendary thing about Goons is the way they twist the reality of things that happened and the fools who actually believe the lies.
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
200
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:55:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Xython wrote:From my understanding BoB was basically falling apart by the time Goons performed their legendary act of espionage, so it probably wouldn't have changed anything in the long run. Supposedly there are still mirrors of their official forums from back in the day floating around, if you want to read them. There was no legendary act of espionage. There was a little disgruntled director with roles who was fed up with the game and decided to hurt the very alliance he was part of in the most humiliating way. If any other entity would have been more hurtfull he would have coaxed with them to disband BoB. The only legendary thing about Goons is the way they twist the reality of things that happened and the fools who actually believe the lies.
February 2009: Disband of Brothers, and the Second Great Invasion of Delve
"It looks like we are being ****** royally" -cflux, BoB director
As January faded into February goon morale was worsening. SE and other denizens of Stain, C0VEN and Systematic-Chaos, were chipping away at our Esoteria claims. The Newper, a "secret" jump bridge network running along -A- space, had collapsed after weeks of being camped. The AZN to 77S connection, the thin jump bridge lifeline holding the two major GoonSwarm capitals, was severed, crippling alliance logistics. GoonSwarm was bleeding on several fronts, and with no clear future goons began to despair.
During this quieter period in the war Suas, a long-time director and hero of GoonSwarm, came back suddenly and began disrupting operations. The GS directorate told him to take some time off, but Suas was apparently so enraged by their response to his actions, that he decided to go **** goons; using his status in GoonSwarm, he convinced a goon to give him his Titan. Suas then ripped him off, and later wrote a song called "I Robbed A Goon" (a take on "I Kissed A Girl")[2]. Although Suas bathed in the spotlight of his treason, it would in no way compare to the nuclear holocaust that was about to unfold in the south.
Over the course of January, Tamir Lenk of Igneus Auctorita had spoken to and recruited a random pubbie from EVE's public recruitment channel; initially intending to recruitment scam him, he had a change of heart and instead accepted him into the alliance genuinely. After some background checks on the new recruit's corp history, however, it was decided that there was the possibility of this character being a spy and that he should be purged from the alliance before he could do harm.
When the new IGNE character was informed of this, he made a full and unexpected confession: the pubbie was actually an alt of Band of Brothers director Haargoth Agamar. A full director, with full directorate access in Tin Foil, the executor corporation of Band of Brothers. The director told a person in IGNE who they were, that they had had enough of BoB, and that the brief time in GoonSwarm had reminded them that EVE could be fun again. Tamir and IGNE's CEO Aaron Static proceeded to go to The Mittani with the info, who was sceptical at first, but then began to plan a quick smash-and-grab of any assets the director could get his hands on.
It then struck Mittani, upon looking at the measly grabbings of a dozen dreads and a few billion ISK. "The director has full access in Tin Foil. The director can disband BoB." Upon this realization, he set it in motion. And finally, on February 5th, a full director in the Tin Foil executor corporation of Band of Brothers, disbanded and closed the alliance, resetting all BoB sov claims to 0, destroying constellation sovereignty in all Delve constellations, and putting every capital ship assembly array into a vulnerable position. The call was made to GoonSwarm a few hours later: "We're moving. Get your ass to Delve. All other regions are forefeit."
Thus began the Second Great Invason of Delve, and the mass evacuation of Tenerifis, Feythabolis, Esoteria and Detorid - the regions GoonSwarm had worked so hard to claim in The Great EVE War and lived in for over two years. With the initial help of RAZOR Alliance, KIA, and Pandemic Legion, Morsus Mihi and TCF on their way, and the total lack of any BoB jump bridges or cynosural jammers, GoonSwarm saw that to crack Fortress Delve, this would be the only chance they'd ever get. The former Band of Brothers reformed a day later using the placeholder alliance KenZoku (affectionately called "KenGoku" and "Kenny"). Their sov remained at Sov 1.
Within a day, dozens of Dickstars were erected in station systems, including the infamous QY6 system which had been the main thunderdome in the first war as well. GoonSwarm and its allies were well on the way to claiming sovereignity in many of Delve's hardest station systems. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
274
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:03:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:When the new IGNE character was informed of this, he made a full and unexpected confession: the pubbie was actually an alt of Band of Brothers director Haargoth Agamar. A full director, with full directorate access in Tin Foil, the executor corporation of Band of Brothers. The director told a person in IGNE who they were, that they had had enough of BoB, and that the brief time in GoonSwarm had reminded them that EVE could be fun again. Tamir and IGNE's CEO Aaron Static proceeded to go to The Mittani with the info, who was sceptical at first, but then began to plan a quick smash-and-grab of any assets the director could get his hands on.
It then struck Mittani, upon looking at the measly grabbings of a dozen dreads and a few billion ISK. "The director has full access in Tin Foil. The director can disband BoB." Upon this realization, he set it in motion. And finally, on February 5th, a full director in the Tin Foil executor corporation of Band of Brothers, disbanded and closed the alliance, resetting all BoB sov claims to 0, destroying constellation sovereignty in all Delve constellations, and putting every capital ship assembly array into a vulnerable position. The call was made to GoonSwarm a few hours later: "We're moving. Get your ass to Delve. All other regions are forefeit."
Point proven. Disgruntled player bought his way into Goonswarm by disbanding his own alliance.
Once again, if he could have pissed people in BoB off more by joining another alliance or corporation and then killing BoB he would have. There was no infiltration. There was no espionage. Anyone with half a braincell can see that.
No wonder most Goons and pets can't see that.
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
200
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:07:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:When the new IGNE character was informed of this, he made a full and unexpected confession: the pubbie was actually an alt of Band of Brothers director Haargoth Agamar. A full director, with full directorate access in Tin Foil, the executor corporation of Band of Brothers. The director told a person in IGNE who they were, that they had had enough of BoB, and that the brief time in GoonSwarm had reminded them that EVE could be fun again. Tamir and IGNE's CEO Aaron Static proceeded to go to The Mittani with the info, who was sceptical at first, but then began to plan a quick smash-and-grab of any assets the director could get his hands on.
It then struck Mittani, upon looking at the measly grabbings of a dozen dreads and a few billion ISK. "The director has full access in Tin Foil. The director can disband BoB." Upon this realization, he set it in motion. And finally, on February 5th, a full director in the Tin Foil executor corporation of Band of Brothers, disbanded and closed the alliance, resetting all BoB sov claims to 0, destroying constellation sovereignty in all Delve constellations, and putting every capital ship assembly array into a vulnerable position. The call was made to GoonSwarm a few hours later: "We're moving. Get your ass to Delve. All other regions are forefeit."
Point proven. Disgruntled player bought his way into Goonswarm by disbanding his own alliance. Once again, if he could have pissed people in BoB off more by joining another alliance or corporation and then killing BoB he would have. There was no infiltration. There was no espionage. Anyone with half a braincell can see that. No wonder most Goons and pets can't see that.
Goons don't really do the whole "pet" thing. They really aren't into the whole "padding their space with people they don't like" thing, either.
Goons tend to shoot people they don't like. Hell, Goons tend to shoot people they DO like, for fun. All these people that you refer to as "pets", likely because you think they have no voice or something (idk, really). They are all friends of Goons. They like Goons, and Goons like them.
Goons don't abandon their friends, like certain alliances did with their "pets". If Raiden. or whoever decides to try and take a swipe at an ally, and that ally looks like they might not handle it, Goons will come and help out if asked. Not for any cost, or payment or anything. Just to help out a friend in need.
So you can take your little "pets" business and turn around and go back to whatever corner of space that you call home and enjoy your little ideas on your own time. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 18:23:00 -
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Theres still Band of Brothers in game. Its part of Goonswarm Fed. They should get someone to post here lol
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
606
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Posted - 2012.04.17 22:08:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:Xython wrote:From my understanding BoB was basically falling apart by the time Goons performed their legendary act of espionage, so it probably wouldn't have changed anything in the long run. Supposedly there are still mirrors of their official forums from back in the day floating around, if you want to read them. There was no legendary act of espionage. There was a little disgruntled director with roles who was fed up with the game and decided to hurt the very alliance he was part of in the most humiliating way. If any other entity would have been more hurtfull he would have coaxed with them to disband BoB. The only legendary thing about Goons is the way they twist the reality of things that happened and the fools who actually believe the lies. It then struck Mittani, upon looking at the measly grabbings of a dozen dreads and a few billion ISK. "The director has full access in Tin Foil.... Mitt's always been quick on his feet. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
589
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Posted - 2012.04.17 22:49:00 -
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I was amazed when BoB went down. It totally destroyed any potential argument about one group getting too powerful to be taken down because the game mechanics made it impossible. BoB was really dug in...
I can't imagine what it would be like if they were still around though. The goons wouldn't be so overrated now.
There's never been an alliance like BoB's since... wonder if one will rise again. I guess it depends on how attractive it is to be in and have sovereignty in null. Right now there's no incentive for an organization like that to exist.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
423
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:49:00 -
[51] - Quote
Don't worry so much. BoB 4.0 is still around and the war continues!
After BoB had the button pushed on them, they didn't just all ragequit, after all.
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Theres still Band of Brothers in game. Its part of Goonswarm Fed. They should get someone to post here lol Yes, after they had the button pushed, someone immediately reformed BoB. I think Goonfleet is a corp in the BoB alliance. But the person in charge got banned or something, so they're both stuck in time etc.
(Someone has a character in BoB who posts still). Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
203
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:46:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Don't worry so much. BoB 4.0 is still around and the war continues! After BoB had the button pushed on them, they didn't just all ragequit, after all. Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Theres still Band of Brothers in game. Its part of Goonswarm Fed. They should get someone to post here lol Yes, after they had the button pushed, someone immediately reformed BoB. I think Goonfleet is a corp in the BoB alliance. But the person in charge got banned or something, so they're both stuck in time etc. (Someone has a character in BoB who posts still).
The actual Band Of Brothers name is part of the old Goonswarm, headed by Karttoon, who is banned for RMT. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
592
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:15:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Karttoon, who is banned for RMT. LOL!
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Darven Galeptos
Galeptos Medicines
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:31:00 -
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LOL after all this time, people still think that BOB was disbanded against their will.
BOB just got tired of the endless kicking of your asses and decided to up the game a little by dropping sov. And IT was the same story all over. And when raiden gets tired of kicking your asses this will happen again. Then they will form a new alliance and repeat. PL knew/know this was happening, so they decided to do the same when they dropped sov in fountain , PL never lost to IT, there was made an agreement. Im not sure if goons knew about this or this why they dropped sov themselves, but I suspect it.
Some players just just like a challenge. Darven Galeptos
Galeptos Medicines http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Galeptos_Medicine |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
204
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:52:00 -
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Darven Galeptos wrote:LOL after all this time, people still think that BOB was disbanded against their will.
BOB just got tired of the endless kicking of your asses and decided to up the game a little by dropping sov. And IT was the same story all over. And when raiden gets tired of kicking your asses this will happen again. Then they will form a new alliance and repeat. PL knew/know this was happening, so they decided to do the same when they dropped sov in fountain , PL never lost to IT, there was made an agreement. Im not sure if goons knew about this or this why they dropped sov themselves, but I suspect it.
Some players just just like a challenge.
So what you are saying is they didn't want to play this game anyway. |
Boston Bradley
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:06:00 -
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If BoB was never disbanded by that $@!@!(* then GoonSwarm would have finally been defeated and the economy would of been fixed because parents would of been forced to drop their toddlers off at daycare. |
knobber Jobbler
156
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Posted - 2012.04.18 05:30:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:You're asking this because It Alliance is re-spawning on Dotlan aren't you? If BOB never disbanded Goons would have something else to do besides ***** about Empire and CSM shenanigans. This game really needs at least two great empires, not just one. If IT tries to become a major player again, they will have their work cut out for them because this is a different EVE now. That being said, their return coinciding with a new expansion involving titan nerfs is probably not coincidence either. They have always had insider information to play with. Ultimately, meh... Most of us are so sick to death of null sec, goon(dot) and BOB(dot) that I think the mystique is gone forever. No one really gives a **** anymore TBFH.
Look at the Sov map, eve has several great empires and many smaller but powerful ones. Goons are no the largest Sov owner.
Right now it looks like 2012 will turn into north vs south. |
Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
510
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Posted - 2012.04.18 06:41:00 -
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wars would be interesting to watch. watching the first great war unfold was pretty fun, and then the second great war was more interesting. i was kinda hoping for a third great war but then sirmolle had to ruin my fun. if only he didn't betray MC and **** off haargoth. |
Sellendis
The Ares project
43
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Posted - 2012.04.18 11:09:00 -
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Infiltration part is always funny. If someone gives you their house keys, and you use them, is that infiltrating? No. Breaking and entering? Still no.
Not that i give a damn about BoB or GSF, but politics and campaigns at that time were interesting.
OTOH, what happened to SirMolle? RageQuit or got tired? |
Liam Mirren
448
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Posted - 2012.04.18 11:10:00 -
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We'd have less ****** posters and more smug ones. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
215
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Posted - 2012.04.18 15:15:00 -
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Sellendis wrote:Infiltration part is always funny. If someone gives you their house keys, and you use them, is that infiltrating? No. Breaking and entering? Still no.
Not that i give a damn about BoB or GSF, but politics and campaigns at that time were interesting.
OTOH, what happened to SirMolle? RageQuit or got tired?
Ragequit after losing 5 Titans. He plays TOR now. |
Sellendis
The Ares project
44
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:47:00 -
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Would be a riot if goons got there to make his life (and new corp/whatever) hell again :)
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
215
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:49:00 -
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Sellendis wrote:Would be a riot if goons got there to make his life (and new corp/whatever) hell again :)
The problem with that is TOR is an unironically terrible game. Eve is more fun. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards
25
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Posted - 2012.06.24 03:54:00 -
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Sellendis wrote:Infiltration part is always funny. If someone gives you their house keys, and you use them, is that infiltrating? No. Breaking and entering? Still no.
Not that i give a damn about BoB or GSF, but politics and campaigns at that time were interesting.
OTOH, what happened to SirMolle? RageQuit or got tired? Well Evolution is still quite active (SirMolle's corp). They're currently active in Etherium Reach and bordering regions.
I think they're based out of low-sec POSes.
Yes, a necropost, and you're welcome. http://d.asset.soup.io/asset/1579/1917_fe03.gif |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:06:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Degren wrote:I have a feeling less people would be playing Now this is an interesting response. Why would less people be playing? Because of all the people that joined up because of the story of the disband? I know I probably wouldn't be playing if it weren't for that.
I think more would be cause perpetuum wouldnt exist
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
430
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:38:00 -
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Degren wrote:I have a feeling less assholes would be playing
Fixed.
In irae, veritas. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
473
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:42:00 -
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Talk about thread necromancy. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:44:00 -
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Something else would have killed them. Perhaps right now the big bad guys would be the NC or perhaps even the cesspool that was 2010 Venal would have infested a large part of space |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:49:00 -
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Ocih wrote:It would look pretty much the same as does right now.
BoB was never a conquest Alliance. The stayed in Delve and were happy to be there. BoB was destroyed because of epeen envy. The people who took them apart didnt want what they had, they just didnt want them to have it.
BoB was a vision of the future of Eve. Boring, maintaining a status quo. Whatever is happening now, BoB more or less did it first. So essentially, it's like BoB is still around, just without the name. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Tri Vetra
Rifters
51
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Posted - 2012.06.24 04:56:00 -
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haargoth was a bad poster but he was in the process of becoming better |
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
473
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Posted - 2012.06.24 05:00:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Ocih wrote:It would look pretty much the same as does right now.
BoB was never a conquest Alliance. The stayed in Delve and were happy to be there. BoB was destroyed because of epeen envy. The people who took them apart didnt want what they had, they just didnt want them to have it. BoB was a vision of the future of Eve. Boring, maintaining a status quo. Whatever is happening now, BoB more or less did it first. So essentially, it's like BoB is still around, just without the name.
I have to assume, based on this post, that you have an idea for eve different from how it is now. Care to enlighten the class? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2012.06.24 05:18:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Ocih wrote:It would look pretty much the same as does right now.
BoB was never a conquest Alliance. The stayed in Delve and were happy to be there. BoB was destroyed because of epeen envy. The people who took them apart didnt want what they had, they just didnt want them to have it. BoB was a vision of the future of Eve. Boring, maintaining a status quo. Whatever is happening now, BoB more or less did it first. So essentially, it's like BoB is still around, just without the name.
Yeah cause Goons are so incredibly different lol
Lapine Davion wrote:Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Ocih wrote:It would look pretty much the same as does right now.
BoB was never a conquest Alliance. The stayed in Delve and were happy to be there. BoB was destroyed because of epeen envy. The people who took them apart didnt want what they had, they just didnt want them to have it. BoB was a vision of the future of Eve. Boring, maintaining a status quo. Whatever is happening now, BoB more or less did it first. So essentially, it's like BoB is still around, just without the name. I have to assume, based on this post, that you have an idea for eve different from how it is now. Care to enlighten the class?
How about people KILLING ppl. that destruction engine ppl are always talking about when theyre rationalizing ganking highsec miners.
Or Burn Jita Or Hulkageddon http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1115
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Posted - 2012.06.24 05:30:00 -
[73] - Quote
Lapine Davion wrote:I have to assume, based on this post, that you have an idea for eve different from how it is now. Care to enlighten the class? He has a dream.
"There are no goons." "The goons 0.0 dream is over." Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance
108
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Posted - 2012.06.24 05:31:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:What do you forum people think the current nullsec politik would be like if Band of Brothers had never been disbanded? We have CFC
Must. Read. Poasts. Slowly.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2012.06.24 05:36:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Sellendis wrote:Infiltration part is always funny. If someone gives you their house keys, and you use them, is that infiltrating? No. Breaking and entering? Still no.
Not that i give a damn about BoB or GSF, but politics and campaigns at that time were interesting.
OTOH, what happened to SirMolle? RageQuit or got tired? Ragequit after losing 5 Titans. He plays TOR now.
Man, I wouldnt wish that fate on anyone
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards
25
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Posted - 2012.06.24 06:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
I bet SirMolle is a quadrillionaire. Five Titans was probably pocket change to him. http://d.asset.soup.io/asset/1579/1917_fe03.gif |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
108
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Posted - 2012.06.24 07:38:00 -
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Didn't you know that BOB was over taken by the GOONs in disguise only to re emerge at a later date to throw people off? simple minded GOONs out maneuvered |
Bluddwolf
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
41
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Posted - 2012.06.24 11:05:00 -
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Natassia Krasnoo wrote:If BoB was never disbanded? Speculation: After the Sov Bill incident Goons would have been attacked, rolled out of nullsec, and fail cascaded. They would have come back of course because they are like herpes that way....annoying, permanent, and disgusting, but you learn to deal with it.
TEST would probably never have gotten off the ground and failed after a few months of wanting to be like big brother Goonie but not quite making it.
The NC would still be rulling the north.
PL would own space.
There would be 4 sides of New Eden instead of 3. North, East, South, and West.
But since this is all just speculation I could be waaayyyy off base.
You forgot to mention, at least 2 CCP employees might still have a job. The whole BOB controversy was less to do with the exploits they were using, but that CCP employees were actively helping them do it. EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2012.06.24 11:08:00 -
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Bluddwolf wrote:Natassia Krasnoo wrote:If BoB was never disbanded? Speculation: After the Sov Bill incident Goons would have been attacked, rolled out of nullsec, and fail cascaded. They would have come back of course because they are like herpes that way....annoying, permanent, and disgusting, but you learn to deal with it.
TEST would probably never have gotten off the ground and failed after a few months of wanting to be like big brother Goonie but not quite making it.
The NC would still be rulling the north.
PL would own space.
There would be 4 sides of New Eden instead of 3. North, East, South, and West.
But since this is all just speculation I could be waaayyyy off base.
You forgot to mention, at least 2 CCP employees might still have a job. The whole BOB controversy was less to do with the exploits they were using, but that CCP employees were actively helping them do it.
Did CCP made negawallets and took assets for this? brb |
Mons Pubis Giganticus
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.26 04:10:00 -
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what if there's no heaven? only sky above? |
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