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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.14 22:12:00 -
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Amazing description of the way any normal player group in eve would organize and run an ice mining op in one of the last places in high sec to gather pos fuel materials. |

Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.14 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 14/01/2009 23:10:12
Originally by: ToTheCore
Originally by: Captain Pompous I'm going to say it: maybe they just dont want to talk to some RANDOM unknown person who convos them from local out of the blue.
I can understand where you're coming from with this, but that would make more sense with regards to players with names that don't look like someone had a seizure on the keyboard. I don't think most players in EVE like having characters named pnoxjqz.
Ok look at it from this point of view. Lots of people in high sec need pos fuel. Lots of people in eve like to greif miners. Miners get all concentrated into a single belt in a single system due to the high sec ice field nerf so you can easily have 80+ people there. Certain miners being alts of pvp/manufactoring corps who need pos fuel get the lulz idea of naming all thier new ice miner alts lkasjhdfs and such just to be annoying because they know it is annoying. They then log onto the forum GD where much lulz ensued. 
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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.14 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: No Class Can a low skilled pilot in a frigate or cheap cruiser take down a Mackinaw? How many Mackinaws can you destroy before your not alowed in the system?
Actually not too many as a mackinaw fitted to mine ice has no grid or cpu left for any type of tank. Been a standing complaint for ages.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.15 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum lol I've started stealing from these guys in Tolle  I just grabbed a load of ice in my Prowler but it seems that blue ice sells for **** so I gotta go grab a Mammoth. Do these macroers ever fight back or are they all just afk all the time?
When I made one of my combat alts I used him to nick ore and ice in minnie space as something to do to keep occupied as I flipped skills. All the ice miners I nabbed ice who did talk couldn't care less about a load or two gone missing as they have to mine for days to get the quota for pos fuel and figured out to acknowledge the thieves presence usually spurred them on to keep stealing just for the attention as stealing ice is [i]really[i] low profit. So yeah you can steal all day long but its like one of the least profitable things to do in eve past afk mining a veld roid in an indy. |

Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.19 19:18:00 -
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Why do I get the feeling that all these 'soulutions' are from people who never once warped to an ice belt and are running off forum propaganda. 
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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.19 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Loyal Servant Ever visit an ice belt? Ever see the number of isk farmers in those belts?
Yes. Matter of fact there is one in the high sec system im mining missions in and there is never anyone there. Hell even the belts are full of untouched ore.
Quote: Just because it takes a lot of 'time' it must be okay to break the rules and make it harder for smaller outfits that like to mine.
Ice is not like a normal roid that pops after a few cycles as they insane amounts of ice units in each piece of ice and there are hundreds of the things in an ice belt so anyone and everyone who has a fancy to mine some ice will always have plenty to go round.
Quote: Or is it because the farmers tell this sad story of playing games so they can send that $5 a month back to their parents in some small fishing village back west?
Perhaps you actually approve of the other illegal activities that they are doing while buying and selling isk, or their means of obtaining it?
Farmers are not only involved in isk trading but a lot of them are into other kinds of fraud.

Edit: typo
Well this last part is a troll so no need to make a reasoned reply.  |

Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.20 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Loyal Servant
Originally by: Zeba Yes. Matter of fact there is one in the high sec system im mining missions in and there is never anyone there. Hell even the belts are full of untouched ore.
I have seen them, too. The reason there are no farmers in them is because they are... A. In lowsec B. have no direct hisec path to jita. Meaning they are in hisec but you have to go thru lowsec to get there.
No low sec anywhere near me at all and I can go to Jita unhindered by any low sec as well as several other nearby hubs.
Originally by: Loyal Servant
Originally by: Zeba Ice is not like a normal roid that pops after a few cycles as they insane amounts of ice units in each piece of ice and there are hundreds of the things in an ice belt so anyone and everyone who has a fancy to mine some ice will always have plenty to go round.
So because there 'is enough to go around' means that it's okay for isk farmers to mine them? Do you actually believe this stuff you are typing up?
Do you actually believe even if you farm ice 23/7 its worth even a minute fraction in isk of all the other stuff in eve that can be effectively farmed? Ice is for pos fuel, jump drives, doomsdays and not for making isk. The ice in empire what little of it is left has concentrated all the people who need ice for thier high sec pos into an extreamly limited area hence in certain systems the lone ice belt for that whole region being filled to near capacity. Are some of them macro users? Probably. Are all of them farmers? Of course but they farm pos fuel not [/i]isk so they produce none of those gloom and doom financial instabilitys that are attributed to isk farmers. Bit of a difference if you stop to think instead of *twitch*. 
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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.20 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty Slow down boys, I'm running low on tin foil hats!
The Market is going crazy for them with all these witch hunts happening!
Thats the funny thing about this whole little side witch hunt. Ice isn't a market force to be reckoned with its just an annoying thing that has to be mined so you can make the real iskies with your pos structures. 
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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.20 19:24:00 -
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Call the Witchsmeller Pursuivant to end the horrid ice mining scourge once and for all! |

Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.20 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Call the Witchsmeller Pursuivant to end the horrid ice mining scourge once and for all!
Just gonna quote myself caused I missed sniping the fifth page and its totaly comparative of whats going on in this thread. 
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Zeba
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul So be honest and say "I want a excuse to kill miners". A little info: in EVE you don't need excuses to kill people.
Absolutely. But what your missing Venkul is that the people here are not playing eve they are playing the forums. Basically every time you say black they will say white and so the forumwars emorage on. 
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