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David Grogan Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2009.01.15 13:10:00 - [31] Edited by: David Grogan on 15/01/2009 13:09:57 hopefully by adding competition into the space mmorpg STO will force ccp to lower its monthly fee. One can dream
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.01.15 13:11:00 - [32] Edited by: Akita T on 15/01/2009 13:11:16 Originally by: Admiral Ripstar Discuss, a real threat to CCP ? You owe me a new keyboard, fluid damage. Originally by: Tippia What's in these things, anwyay? Powdered happiness.
Par'Gellen Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.15 13:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Why is it always a "this or that" choice in MMOs? I've played, at best, 4 MMOs at same time This (no pun intended).
Rayton Drew	Posted - 2009.01.15 15:14:00 - [34] Well I have looked at STO and EVE has no worries.
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.01.15 15:27:00 - [35] I totally read that as STAR TREK Online in Fail 09.
Gilmour A Quest Millitia	Posted - 2009.01.15 15:37:00 - [36] Originally by: Malcanis Personally I hope STO is a huge success. Then all the "I just want to be left alone" types can go carebear it up there. If you want only 500 people online go play on testcenter
Meek Wriggle School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.15 15:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Why is it always a "this or that" choice in MMOs? I've played, at best, 4 MMOs at same time OMG! How many arms do you have? Or do you perhaps have a conjoined twin who plays with/for you?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.15 16:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Meek Wriggle Originally by: Sheriff Jones Why is it always a "this or that" choice in MMOs? I've played, at best, 4 MMOs at same time OMG! How many arms do you have? Or do you perhaps have a conjoined twin who plays with/for you? Well, let's just say that when you have a holiday, or lots of free time otherwise, you can fit 4 MMOs in 6 hour cycles
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.01.15 17:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Shenko Minara Originally by: Admiral Ripstar ...I hope this will force CCP to be a little more creative. Creative was letting your character train a new skill while unsubbed and give you something interesting to come back to after getting bored of the game. CCP don't WANT TO LET ME PLAY FOR FREE I fixed your sentence.... now go **** off. Thanks.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2009.01.15 17:18:00 - [40] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 15/01/2009 17:22:21 Part of the problem is the Star Trek license. Paramount throws so many restrictions on anyone doing anything with the Star Trek universe they are throttled into making watered down, feel goody products. Even the villains are only mildly evil. As such STO will never come close to the depth and breadth of EVE. CCP can do pretty much anything they want and specifically crafted a game to appeal to adults looking for a edgy universe. STO will be strictly PG rated vanilla blandness. Don't want to upset people too much now do we. If your ship goes pop doubtless the Federation will have an infinite supply to hand it back to you (and that is assuming your ship can pop in the first place...rule #1 in Star Trek is the ship always gets away intact...at least till it is time to insert a more spiffy, updated model). There is absolutely no one out there who seems remotely interested in producing anything as dark or brutal as the EVE universe. The marketing departments, in their typical idiocy, do market research that says people do not like dying in games so don't do it. Guess EVE is the exception that proves the rule. CCP is safe for at least the next three years and probably more. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Belladona Grimm Raven's Heart	Posted - 2009.01.15 17:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Clocky not a good idea to ask whats in my cookies Plausible deniability
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Horsemen of Apocalypse	Posted - 2009.01.15 18:03:00 - [42] Originally by: Malcanis Personally I hope STO is a huge success. Then all the "I just want to be left alone" types can go carebear it up there. basically this to be honest however, i may myself try out Star Trek online, get a different taste of spaceship pew pew AND there is still pvp in STO as well, it may be consensual, buuut still Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Horsemen of Apocalypse	Posted - 2009.01.15 18:04:00 - [43] Originally by: David Grogan Edited by: David Grogan on 15/01/2009 13:09:57 hopefully by adding competition into the space mmorpg STO will force ccp to lower its monthly fee. One can dream surely this is a troll post Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Larg Kellein Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2009.01.15 18:18:00 - [44] As a 4 year player of City of Heroes, I can safely say that Cryptic wouldn't know a decent PvP mechanic if it punched them in the face. Eve has nothing to worry about.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.15 22:35:00 - [45] Lol @ the "Eve is safe b'cos STO won't have Eve-type pvp" answers. Why do you think over 3/4 of Eve players live in highsec (or was that 15% in 0.0 according to a QEN a while ago ?). The pvp-fanbois aren't the majority in Eve, "wardecs, suicideganks, scamming, corptheft" attracts only a minority, there is a huge ammount of people who'd like to enjoy a space MMO without being harassed in their game expirience by 27 year old e-warriors that live in their mom's basement and grief others because they are still virgins. If STO won't flop horribly, there will certainly be a huge ammount of players switching from Eve to STO, the question will then be how many.
Vinni Caldari All Sales Are Final	Posted - 2009.01.16 00:39:00 - [46] The only other space MMO I've seen that has any interest for me would be Infinity Earth: http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php It's more than a year away and will have all the growing pains of EVE and then some, but it's truely a beautiful looking game so far and I would love to see what Infinity Earth is doing with planets in EVE. CCP should just buy the IP and incorporate it into EVE. This is a neat video: http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=93
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.01.16 03:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Lol @ the "Eve is safe b'cos STO won't have Eve-type pvp" answers. Why do you think over 3/4 of Eve players live in highsec (or was that 15% in 0.0 according to a QEN a while ago ?). The pvp-fanbois aren't the majority in Eve, "wardecs, suicideganks, scamming, corptheft" attracts only a minority, there is a huge ammount of people who'd like to enjoy a space MMO without being harassed in their game expirience by 27 year old e-warriors that live in their mom's basement and grief others because they are still virgins. If STO won't flop horribly, there will certainly be a huge ammount of players switching from Eve to STO, the question will then be how many. Alts, ever hear of them? I'm a purely PvP player and carebear only the absolute minimum required to pay my bills, but 66% of my characters are permanently in highsec, while 83% of them have never fired a shot in PvP. That's a -10 main, a covops/hauler alt, two CEO alts, and two random characters who never left the starter station. So in fact, 25% of the characters living outside of highsec is an extremely high percentage. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Uncle Smokey	Posted - 2009.01.16 03:59:00 - [48] not a chance against eve's lore. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. \o/ EVERYBODY SAY HELL YEAH! \o/
Adaris Gallente E X I U S	Posted - 2009.01.16 04:04:00 - [49] Originally by: baltec1 Only trekies will buy that game. And from what I have seen EVE will have ALOT more freedome. thats about 250 million people worldwide, last I read. Thats alot of people. They better getting working on the lag. ******* I speak on behalf of every corporation.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.16 05:11:00 - [50] Originally by: Eleanor DeAquitaine From what I've seen of it's development they are still making the same crappy game that Perpetual was. "Everyone's the captain" type BS instead of the intense crew based exploration, problem solving, and such that makes Star Trek. Basically it's WOW with phasers. I'll pass. See, that's something I don't get. The crew-based model just made no sense to me. Are you really going to get that many people who want to monitor the Dilithium Crystals to make sure they're at the most optimal efficiency, or is everyone going to want to be Kirk or Picard and blow the **** out of some enemy? Hell, there may be more gunnery crew than captains. Sure, there will be a few who are into the more esoteric aspects of the game, but the majority will be the pew-pew types who want action, even if they're the science types who want to fight a new and deadly disease. But I just can't imagine there being enough to fulfill a complete crew compliment for the majority of players. Thus they won't be able to do much of anything in the game.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:42:00 - [51] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba .. and grief others because they are still virgins. Hey!! Thats not nice
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:56:00 - [52] Originally by: Kuolematon Originally by: Yakia TovilToba .. and grief others because they are still virgins. Hey!! Thats not nice You didn't deny it though haha. Originally by: Adaris Originally by: baltec1 Only trekies will buy that game. And from what I have seen EVE will have ALOT more freedome. thats about 250 million people worldwide, last I read. Thats alot of people. They better getting working on the lag. I'd laugh so hard if it started up them immediately stalled and crashed the server.
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.01.16 14:30:00 - [53] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Lol @ the "Eve is safe b'cos STO won't have Eve-type pvp" answers. Why do you think over 3/4 of Eve players live in highsec (or was that 15% in 0.0 according to a QEN a while ago ?). The pvp-fanbois aren't the majority in Eve, "wardecs, suicideganks, scamming, corptheft" attracts only a minority, there is a huge ammount of people who'd like to enjoy a space MMO without being harassed in their game expirience by 27 year old e-warriors that live in their mom's basement and grief others because they are still virgins. If STO won't flop horribly, there will certainly be a huge ammount of players switching from Eve to STO, the question will then be how many. That isn't why I grief people. I do it because it makes me feel big
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:42:00 - [54] To the guy who thinks the "everyone's the captain" makes for bad gameplay, then how do you explain EVE's success using the same model? Just curious. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.

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