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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:38:00 -
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Just because it was recently bumped, for reference's sake, we've actually had two spinoff threads so far:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140500&find=unread and https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141944&find=unread http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |

A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:44:00 -
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Evolution is actually only like a third random. While each change is random, survivability and sexual selection change the odds of those random changes being passed on. If a random mutation hurts the overall whole then the whole organism is more lekly to fail the survivability test or is likely passed over at the sexual selection step. If the change is positive then the opposite is true. Those changes that don't effect either of those things are moot until they interact with something else that makes a positive or negative change. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1238
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:49:00 -
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A Soporific wrote:Evolution is actually only like a third random. More like 5% (or even much less) random since the vast majority of mutations are deleterious (and most of the rest are somewhat close to neutral), but you got the basic idea right. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |

Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2012.11.06 06:19:00 -
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Thread Necromancy!!! Hazzah!!! Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |

Saint Valio
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.06 06:49:00 -
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If you had infinite number of monkeys they would write the eve-code instantly, not eventually.
How many monkeys would that need then? Infinite. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.06 11:40:00 -
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Saint Valio wrote:If you had infinite number of monkeys they would write the eve-code instantly, not eventually.
How many monkeys would that need then? Infinite. Yet the universe is finite, it can't support the mass of infinite monkeys nor does it have time to.. I mean, if you could actually convert even the existing mass of the universe into monkeys, typewriters and bananas, it would certainly all collapse and form a black whole, sucked into a singularity where time is nullified. The more monkeys you add, the greater the mass, the more intense the black hole.
But really, in any formula, you must include time. I mean CCP doesn't have eternity to wait for a bunch of monkeys to fix everything even just broken in EVE today. It's true for the structure of the universe as well, as it's not infinite but finite. So to calculate anything, you must include a very narrow window of opportunity which really screws with the numbers and their possibilities. I only add this as I'm one fascinated with the concepts and mechanics of "time".
Anyway, I've seen more epic bumps than this, 0/10. Singular conversation is too long, so makes it less relevant as a good bump. Threads with directional/multi-directional conversations you can pick up at any point are more interesting.
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Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:46:00 -
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The phrase used to represent Chaos Theory is intended to illustrate to a lay person (unskilled in its laws/unspecialised) what Chaos Theory allows.
Practicality means that the infinite monkeys would have to be trapped in 1 Planck second, its the same as the butterfly flapping its wings in China, winds in Chicago debate.
Metaphysical reference to discussion topics.
If you hit someone hard enough in the face, you can dislocate your middle finger palm knuckle, driving it back into your hand. Years later you can then use the displaced middle knuckle as a bar sequence with the two adjacent knuckles, producing enough noise to constitute "A Clap". No one would really care, but the fact would remain that "humans can't clap with one hand"
If you placed one of each possible number (conceivable not physical representation), somewhere in a theoretical sandbox; the temperature of your pc, the cpu it uses, the temperature along the length of the power cord, the level of electrical output running in the mains that the pc is attached too as well as the geometry of the components used in their individual locations would all decide the selection even if Rand was "completely random" which in computing it can't be. From that you get a singular result, probative measures cannot make a completely random event.
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Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:51:00 -
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Theoretically, it is probable. On a more realistic level, Impossible. You are taking something that has no ultimate goal or focus and giving it a goal and focus. It's kinda like your skill queue. How long do you think it would take to get to pilot a titan with everything else to have it function and such if you were randomly training all skills at different times. Yes, you'd eventually run out of skills to train and have to train titan skills. In the real world and with computing, it would never happen with something as grand a scale as your giving if that is the ultimate goal you are setting upon such task. Now if you set it up to randomly go with no goal set in mind and jsut record what it creates then you might get something comparable to EVE but not exactly. And not all at the same time. It would be chopped up and you'd have to filter through all the junk to get that code. Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:36:00 -
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Imagine a milions single parts of boing 747 inside big container, after some period of time and infinite shaking containers all parts become a plane, like form puzle to final product without workers interfere ;) this theory is wired and make no sense, its impossible to create somthing like machine or game code like EvE without inteligence and logic. |

Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.07 21:26:00 -
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Coupled with the fact that monkeys lack the mental dexterity to alternate key strokes in a manner that would tie some of the words together, like othello or midsummer.... but i digress... |

Metal Icarus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.07 21:52:00 -
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so what you are saying is that if we fill the whole universe with monkeys typing on computers (every single cubic inch of space). that eventually we would get eve online?
This train of thought is dildos.
this thread is dildos.
No, OP, you're drunk go home. |

Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.07 21:58:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:so what you are saying is that if we fill the whole universe with monkeys typing on computers (every single cubic inch of space). that eventually we would get eve online?
This train of thought is dildos.
this thread is dildos.
No, OP, you're drunk go home. Infinite monkeys posting on EOL forums yields what now? This is an exciting new business opportunity, perhaps. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:57:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:this thread is dildos. Infinite dildos.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
T2 BPO poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789
Buying this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=147098 |

Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
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Posted - 2012.11.08 03:23:00 -
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If you have an infinite number of monkeys working on an infinite number of keyboards/time you would instantly generate everything. Holeysheet1 for CSNM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168477&find=unread |
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