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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 27/07/2004 13:28:20
Okay, this has happened enough now to warrant a bit of concern. In the past week or so, I've been flying around and when I go to dock (and once or twice as I jumped through a gate), my entire computer reboots! Hello?! This only happens when I play EVE. It's happened when EVE was the only program I was running as well.
Has anyone else had this happen to them? I'm using a P4 2.6, 1GB RAM & Radeon 9800 Pro if that matters.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 27/07/2004 13:28:20
Okay, this has happened enough now to warrant a bit of concern. In the past week or so, I've been flying around and when I go to dock (and once or twice as I jumped through a gate), my entire computer reboots! Hello?! This only happens when I play EVE. It's happened when EVE was the only program I was running as well.
Has anyone else had this happen to them? I'm using a P4 2.6, 1GB RAM & Radeon 9800 Pro if that matters.
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:33:00 -
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Crash-to-reboot was a pretty common problem in late beta, but I haven't seen it in a long time. You might want to submitting a bug report.
Good luck.
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:33:00 -
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Crash-to-reboot was a pretty common problem in late beta, but I haven't seen it in a long time. You might want to submitting a bug report.
Good luck.
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:42:00 -
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I thought it was just me! 
My PC has been BSOD'ing quite often too, and it only happens when I play EVE. I have a suspicion that my PC might be overheating; but tbh, I've no idea what the cause might really be.
I use a P4 either 2.4GHz with 1GB core, NVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 running Windows XP Pro SP1.
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:42:00 -
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I thought it was just me!
My PC has been BSOD'ing quite often too, and it only happens when I play EVE. I have a suspicion that my PC might be overheating; but tbh, I've no idea what the cause might really be.
I use a P4 either 2.4GHz with 1GB core, NVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 running Windows XP Pro SP1.
WTB EVE Online that runs on Linux.
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Cimmerian
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Hans S*****el
I thought it was just me!
....I have a suspicion that my PC might be overheating; ......
I think you are right!! I have an ATi 9700 which has heating issues and as soon as i start eve, my system restarts or i'm getting a blank screen. Taking the side panel has helped a bit but i need a new fan. Those Ati run too hot especially in this summer time
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Cimmerian
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hans S*****el
I thought it was just me!
....I have a suspicion that my PC might be overheating; ......
I think you are right!! I have an ATi 9700 which has heating issues and as soon as i start eve, my system restarts or i'm getting a blank screen. Taking the side panel has helped a bit but i need a new fan. Those Ati run too hot especially in this summer time
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:49:00 -
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Before I submit a bug report, I wanted to make sure it actually was a bug in the game, not my computer. Nothing else causes my computer to reboot, I've got a barely three month old install of Win XP Pro running on it and my CPU stays at a frosty 34-38 while I'm playing so nothing is overheating...
Anyone else having this "hiccup"?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:49:00 -
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Before I submit a bug report, I wanted to make sure it actually was a bug in the game, not my computer. Nothing else causes my computer to reboot, I've got a barely three month old install of Win XP Pro running on it and my CPU stays at a frosty 34-38 while I'm playing so nothing is overheating...
Anyone else having this "hiccup"?
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dreddish
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:55:00 -
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i had that problem for a long time - after losing a raven i decided to do something about it. I tried everything and solved it by taking out some of the fancy blue neon lights from inside my case. I dont know much about computers but a techie guy said it may have been sucking too much power from the power pack.
maybe you have too many devices in your case?
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dreddish
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:55:00 -
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i had that problem for a long time - after losing a raven i decided to do something about it. I tried everything and solved it by taking out some of the fancy blue neon lights from inside my case. I dont know much about computers but a techie guy said it may have been sucking too much power from the power pack.
maybe you have too many devices in your case?
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:56:00 -
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I bought an AC unit for this reason 2 years ago. Cost me $1000 but I have zero problems during summertime, I just switch it on and it's winter in my room. 
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:56:00 -
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I bought an AC unit for this reason 2 years ago. Cost me $1000 but I have zero problems during summertime, I just switch it on and it's winter in my room.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:59:00 -
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Hmmm... so maybe it's the Radeon running hot? Everything else seems to run cool enough, so I'll look into that.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:59:00 -
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Hmmm... so maybe it's the Radeon running hot? Everything else seems to run cool enough, so I'll look into that.
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:03:00 -
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You could also buy a Thermaltake case, they cost $150 and they have excellent airflow inside besides looking cool.
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:03:00 -
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You could also buy a Thermaltake case, they cost $150 and they have excellent airflow inside besides looking cool.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:06:00 -
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i can fry eggs on my 9700 during summer time, but i haven't had any bugs with eve.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:06:00 -
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i can fry eggs on my 9700 during summer time, but i haven't had any bugs with eve.
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Garion Maki
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:09:00 -
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the reboot is a winXP problem I think, might be related to overheating...
in older windows, you somtimes got a blue screen of dead, but in windows xp, they decided to fix this... and as smart as microsoft was, they yust let the computer reboot every time there was normaly a bsod, instead of fixing the problem that caused the bsod...
you can turn it of somwhere deep inside your configurations, but even tho it won't reboot you, your eve playing session will still be ruined by the blue screen...
did you try cleaning the dust out of your case btw?
that somtimes helps to 
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Garion Maki
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:09:00 -
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the reboot is a winXP problem I think, might be related to overheating...
in older windows, you somtimes got a blue screen of dead, but in windows xp, they decided to fix this... and as smart as microsoft was, they yust let the computer reboot every time there was normaly a bsod, instead of fixing the problem that caused the bsod...
you can turn it of somwhere deep inside your configurations, but even tho it won't reboot you, your eve playing session will still be ruined by the blue screen...
did you try cleaning the dust out of your case btw?
that somtimes helps to
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cimmerian
Originally by: Hans S*****el
I thought it was just me!
....I have a suspicion that my PC might be overheating; ......
I think you are right!! I have an ATi 9700 which has heating issues and as soon as i start eve, my system restarts or i'm getting a blank screen. Taking the side panel has helped a bit but i need a new fan. Those Ati run too hot especially in this summer time
My PC is similair to one of those Shuttle cubes. I've got both side panels off at the moment, and an 8 inch fan blowing right through the opened case. It's been setup like this for the past 2-3 days and it seems to help so far. I still get a spontaneous reboot when playing EVE but it's not rebooting as often as it was before.
Shuttle-like PC case = seems like pretty crap cooling, tbh.
Another PC that I play EVE on has had no problems at all; although it's very different, it has masses of cooling.
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cimmerian
Originally by: Hans S*****el
I thought it was just me!
....I have a suspicion that my PC might be overheating; ......
I think you are right!! I have an ATi 9700 which has heating issues and as soon as i start eve, my system restarts or i'm getting a blank screen. Taking the side panel has helped a bit but i need a new fan. Those Ati run too hot especially in this summer time
My PC is similair to one of those Shuttle cubes. I've got both side panels off at the moment, and an 8 inch fan blowing right through the opened case. It's been setup like this for the past 2-3 days and it seems to help so far. I still get a spontaneous reboot when playing EVE but it's not rebooting as often as it was before.
Shuttle-like PC case = seems like pretty crap cooling, tbh.
Another PC that I play EVE on has had no problems at all; although it's very different, it has masses of cooling.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:24:00 -
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One of the main reasons for PC crashes is HDD overheating. Maybe check that too.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:24:00 -
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One of the main reasons for PC crashes is HDD overheating. Maybe check that too.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 27/07/2004 14:29:22
i think it may be ur radeon. I also have a redeon 9800 pro and the heatsink was so hot u could fry a steak on it. The solution for me was to rip off the old fan (which was fu><0red anyway [cr@p bearings]) and superglue a MUCH bigger fan directly onto the heatsink (anyone thats ever tried prizing a heatsink off a graphics card will know why i did it this way).
I used to get random crashes and strange graphics all the time. Since i replaced the fan its never happened. I would say the heatsink/fan they stuck on the 9800 pro is w@nk and needs replacing
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 27/07/2004 14:29:22
i think it may be ur radeon. I also have a redeon 9800 pro and the heatsink was so hot u could fry a steak on it. The solution for me was to rip off the old fan (which was fu><0red anyway [cr@p bearings]) and superglue a MUCH bigger fan directly onto the heatsink (anyone thats ever tried prizing a heatsink off a graphics card will know why i did it this way).
I used to get random crashes and strange graphics all the time. Since i replaced the fan its never happened. I would say the heatsink/fan they stuck on the 9800 pro is w@nk and needs replacing
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Slarti
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:33:00 -
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Eve causes CPU's to fry....especialy AMD CPU's. I had this crash problem, hot days were the worst. I ended up nerfing my CPU speed to say 60% and now its stable. If you can monitor the CPU temp...just log onto EVE and watch it rise..
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Slarti
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:33:00 -
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Eve causes CPU's to fry....especialy AMD CPU's. I had this crash problem, hot days were the worst. I ended up nerfing my CPU speed to say 60% and now its stable. If you can monitor the CPU temp...just log onto EVE and watch it rise..
www.vogon.homestead.com
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:34:00 -
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Well, my case has plenty of airflow and is dust bunny free... I'm going to look at the fan on that video card. It's all I can think of. Thanks for all the input everyone!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:34:00 -
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Well, my case has plenty of airflow and is dust bunny free... I'm going to look at the fan on that video card. It's all I can think of. Thanks for all the input everyone!
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 27/07/2004 13:28:20
Okay, this has happened enough now to warrant a bit of concern. In the past week or so, I've been flying around and when I go to dock (and once or twice as I jumped through a gate), my entire computer reboots! Hello?! This only happens when I play EVE. It's happened when EVE was the only program I was running as well.
Has anyone else had this happen to them? I'm using a P4 2.6, 1GB RAM & Radeon 9800 Pro if that matters.
This is your video card crashing
To be certain of this, go into you vid card options and twiddle with ATI's VPU recover setting.
This will result in the more familiar blue screen of death or general PC lockage.
I havent had this problem with Eve, but i had it loads with Medal of Honour on my 9700 pro.
I solved it back then by disabling fast-write (no noticable effect) and switching from AGP 8x to AGP 4x (also no noticable effect)
See the numerous info on the net regarding why AGP 8x and fast-write is largely pointless atm anyway
hth |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 27/07/2004 13:28:20
Okay, this has happened enough now to warrant a bit of concern. In the past week or so, I've been flying around and when I go to dock (and once or twice as I jumped through a gate), my entire computer reboots! Hello?! This only happens when I play EVE. It's happened when EVE was the only program I was running as well.
Has anyone else had this happen to them? I'm using a P4 2.6, 1GB RAM & Radeon 9800 Pro if that matters.
This is your video card crashing
To be certain of this, go into you vid card options and twiddle with ATI's VPU recover setting.
This will result in the more familiar blue screen of death or general PC lockage.
I havent had this problem with Eve, but i had it loads with Medal of Honour on my 9700 pro.
I solved it back then by disabling fast-write (no noticable effect) and switching from AGP 8x to AGP 4x (also no noticable effect)
See the numerous info on the net regarding why AGP 8x and fast-write is largely pointless atm anyway
hth |
Anatolius
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Anatolius on 27/07/2004 15:05:48
Originally by: Slarti
Eve causes CPU's to fry....especialy AMD CPU's. I had this crash problem, hot days were the worst. I ended up nerfing my CPU speed to say 60% and now its stable. If you can monitor the CPU temp...just log onto EVE and watch it rise..
[Edit: I splel gud.]
Zero problems whatsoever with my AMD. No massively catastrophic temperature fluctuation - EVE doesn't make the processor run any hotter than any other load.
Hot days are the worst? Then it doesn't matter if you use an AMD, Intel, Via, Transmeta, RandomGenericCrapFromChina chip. You need an air conditioner.
I cringe when I hear of people running their shiny new 3 GHz processors during 90+ degree (Fahrenheit) weather in tiny rooms with no air conditioner during the summer. Then I place bets as to how long it will take their CPU to release its magic blue smoke.
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Anatolius
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Anatolius on 27/07/2004 15:05:48
Originally by: Slarti
Eve causes CPU's to fry....especialy AMD CPU's. I had this crash problem, hot days were the worst. I ended up nerfing my CPU speed to say 60% and now its stable. If you can monitor the CPU temp...just log onto EVE and watch it rise..
[Edit: I splel gud.]
Zero problems whatsoever with my AMD. No massively catastrophic temperature fluctuation - EVE doesn't make the processor run any hotter than any other load.
Hot days are the worst? Then it doesn't matter if you use an AMD, Intel, Via, Transmeta, RandomGenericCrapFromChina chip. You need an air conditioner.
I cringe when I hear of people running their shiny new 3 GHz processors during 90+ degree (Fahrenheit) weather in tiny rooms with no air conditioner during the summer. Then I place bets as to how long it will take their CPU to release its magic blue smoke.
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Having recently acquired a lab slot (thank you, rental bug), I wholeheartily concur, there's absolutely no problem with lab slots! |
Estios
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:02:00 -
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I only have a lowly Radeon 7500 (yeah laugh it up) but have a 9800 Pro in the post.
I get total machine freezes too when playing EVE and cannot even move my mouse, Im forced to switch the machine off and reboot.
I beleived it was a heat issue (as did a GM that mailed me) but I have heat monitors on my CPU and some other bits and see no noticeable spikes. I guess it could be the card heating up ?
BUT it seems to do it mostly when I try show info on someone, not always but seems to be a pattern. Then when I finally go to log back into EVE it fails to load my characters. I clean my cache of the portraits and EVE loads fine.
Im not convinced your issue is heat, but then again I know **** about computers.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:02:00 -
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I only have a lowly Radeon 7500 (yeah laugh it up) but have a 9800 Pro in the post.
I get total machine freezes too when playing EVE and cannot even move my mouse, Im forced to switch the machine off and reboot.
I beleived it was a heat issue (as did a GM that mailed me) but I have heat monitors on my CPU and some other bits and see no noticeable spikes. I guess it could be the card heating up ?
BUT it seems to do it mostly when I try show info on someone, not always but seems to be a pattern. Then when I finally go to log back into EVE it fails to load my characters. I clean my cache of the portraits and EVE loads fine.
Im not convinced your issue is heat, but then again I know **** about computers.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: dreddish
solved it by taking out some of the fancy blue neon lights from inside my case. I dont know much about computers but a techie guy said it may have been sucking too much power from the power pack.
No, he is wrong, you need red lights... red lights are faster.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: dreddish
solved it by taking out some of the fancy blue neon lights from inside my case. I dont know much about computers but a techie guy said it may have been sucking too much power from the power pack.
No, he is wrong, you need red lights... red lights are faster.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:25:00 -
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Seleene Try this it might solve your problems..
Possible Solution
Make SURE you use arctic silver thermal paste as it is one of the ONLY pastes to use actual silver.
If you still have problems evemail me in game
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:25:00 -
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Seleene Try this it might solve your problems..
Possible Solution
Make SURE you use arctic silver thermal paste as it is one of the ONLY pastes to use actual silver.
If you still have problems evemail me in game
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: meowcat on 27/07/2004 15:51:53
Originally by: Skelator
Seleene Try this it might solve your problems..
Possible Solution
Make SURE you use arctic silver thermal paste as it is one of the ONLY pastes to use actual silver.
If you still have problems evemail me in game
it is worth upgrading cooling on GPUs but the benefits of arctic silver are over stated imo (unless you're one of those over-clocking geeks of course)
edit: i would try my earlier suggestion before you start taking stuff to bits :-) |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: meowcat on 27/07/2004 15:51:53
Originally by: Skelator
Seleene Try this it might solve your problems..
Possible Solution
Make SURE you use arctic silver thermal paste as it is one of the ONLY pastes to use actual silver.
If you still have problems evemail me in game
it is worth upgrading cooling on GPUs but the benefits of arctic silver are over stated imo (unless you're one of those over-clocking geeks of course)
edit: i would try my earlier suggestion before you start taking stuff to bits :-) |
RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.07.27 16:14:00 -
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IN WinXP
System Properties
Advanced
Startup and Recovery
Settings
System Failure
untick Automatically restart
then when your comp crashes next you will have the old BSOD [MS remnoved the BSOD and made it reboot indead] - this will tell you what module crashed then you use the web to search for that moduels and error and get the latest drivers for it etc....
BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf |
RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.07.27 16:14:00 -
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IN WinXP
System Properties
Advanced
Startup and Recovery
Settings
System Failure
untick Automatically restart
then when your comp crashes next you will have the old BSOD [MS remnoved the BSOD and made it reboot indead] - this will tell you what module crashed then you use the web to search for that moduels and error and get the latest drivers for it etc....
BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.27 16:19:00 -
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Also, you can try to go to Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\Administrative Tools\Event Viewer and look at any (!) highlited errors - it should say something like:
Description:
DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service StiSvc with arguments "" in order to run the server:
{A1F4E726-8CF1-11D1-BF92-0060081ED811}
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
This is just an example of an error message and NOT the one you're probably getting when undocking
Then come here and tell us what the error is and maybe the community can point to the problem.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.27 16:19:00 -
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Also, you can try to go to Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\Administrative Tools\Event Viewer and look at any (!) highlited errors - it should say something like:
Description:
DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service StiSvc with arguments "" in order to run the server:
{A1F4E726-8CF1-11D1-BF92-0060081ED811}
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
This is just an example of an error message and NOT the one you're probably getting when undocking
Then come here and tell us what the error is and maybe the community can point to the problem.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.27 16:22:00 -
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If heating is the problem, try Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer (SY-000-AR).
Costs about ú8 and, although you have to remove the current heatsink and fan on your gfx card, it only takes about 5 minutes to do.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.27 16:22:00 -
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If heating is the problem, try Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer (SY-000-AR).
Costs about ú8 and, although you have to remove the current heatsink and fan on your gfx card, it only takes about 5 minutes to do.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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