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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: GeneralNukeEm
Also keep in mind that, while faction/officer might never have been allowed, t2 was a much bigger deal in 2006 than today. 15 million isk each for a t2 gun and 250 million for a HAC, anybody? Faction ships too were more expensive. All of this at a time with less overall isk floating around. So yeah, the bar for entry definitely got lower as well.
This is true. I would have liked the allowance of >meta5 but at a cost of points. Want to use an estamel's invuln(meta14) on your nighthawk setup? There goes 14 points. 14 points that could cost you the round. |
Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:47:00 -
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I really wanted to see AAA, RED, MM, Razor, and many many other names famous in eve 0.0 politics.
I was shocked to see random and young alliances with weird names like Chubba Chupps, Honda Accord, Gay4Life...
Nothing wrong with the alliances, but the show would be much better if there were prepared and mature teams, with eve throughout recognition, supporters and enemies. There would be something to support...
In some cases both commentators and audience could not predict the outcome of the match due to lack of awareness of the participants background |
Fried Interface
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:06:00 -
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All this blah blah about "The show would be better if [Big Alliance] was here." is a bunch of hot air.
I for one know of a few pilots from those "Big Alliances" that ARE involved in the tournament, even though they aren't flying under their "Big Alliance" flag for it.
And who's to say that "Big Chief CEO of [Big Well Known Alliance]" can't step out with a few of his closest friends and tightest group of pilots and form a new [No Name] - [Who The **** Are They?] Alliance and compete?
When it all boils down, especially with AT VI, the big show catcher IMO is what and how the teams bring it to get the job done, not who the teams are.
Two days of awesomesauce so far. Keep the good fights coming. |
Leviathan Tank
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 16/01/2009 03:22:23 Not madagascar (insert 10 man alliance) vs. papa new gunea (Insert no name alliance).
People want to see MM, BoB, -A-, Red, Razor, Iron, TCF, ect.
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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:46:00 -
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The best part of this thread to me is that people are upset at not seeing so many 'big alliances' in when most of them didn't even try to sign up :) |
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sliver 0xD
exiles. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: sliver 0xD on 26/01/2009 10:53:26
Originally by: QwaarJet
Originally by: Mes Ren
Originally by: QwaarJet Don't forget MM. For us, it was a simple mistake. We of course planned to enter, even signed up on time, but it didn't work out. I know RAZOR tried to get in too, so I think it was just bad luck that the major alliances didn't get in.
QwaarJet, I'm still trying to figure out a way for you guys to be able to participate (maybe you can "pursued" one of the alliances that got in to let you take their place). Of the teams that didn't get in, I feel the most for you guys and STIM/UGH. I just happen to know that you and STIM/UGH (sorry, for the life of me I can remember your alliance name or ticker) put in a LOT of effort well prior to signups (probably even as much as us). I personally would have been devastated had we not gotten into the tournament (I'm really glad we had a reserved spot, though we still signed up when the signups opened).
Thanks for that, but I really can't see us getting in now...I'm only in charge of the team, apart from that I'm just an alliance grunt, so I don't really have much of a say in alternate methods of getting in. If I was rich myself, I would just throw huge amounts (man city huge amounts) of money at a team to get their place, as it feels utterly terrible that I'll only be watching this time.
verry disapointed and sad to see that you didnt make it. ik know that you realy want to get in. this year it realy shows how many small alliances there are that wane give it a go.
the Kadeshi is also a small alliance and we ride on the luck that we scored high previous tournament. but for a while it was not sure if we made it this year.
i hope they rethink this hole selection methode next year and make it posible for the rich alliances to get in. you might say that is unfair for the small and poor alliances but if a alliance can not field a good setup where isk is not a isue and go out for there best then they should not field at all.
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QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:59:00 -
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Cheers sliver.
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sliver 0xD
exiles. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: QwaarJet Cheers sliver.
if there are any alliances out there that wane trade in there spot for isk contact me or Qwaarjet. |
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: sliver 0xD
Originally by: QwaarJet Cheers sliver.
if there are any alliances out there that wane trade in there spot for isk contact me or Qwaarjet.
No trading of spots will be allowed, as the tournament is underway already.
If you wish to pull out or give your spot to someone else, they will need to have their team join your alliance and compete as members. |
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Glengrant
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:39:00 -
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I don't believe for a second that the early tournamants were played for the value of the prizes (regardless of comparative value of todays prizes).
The ships and setups of the first 3 tournaments were insanely expensive. Later tournaments allowed for much cheaper setups to be competetive. Plus almost everything in market has become cheaper since then. Not to forget that in the olden days plenty of faction hulls got used while most of the modern setups can be self-produced at cost.
I don't know why several big alliances didn't bother to apply - but I wouldn't think the prizes are the explanation in most cases (at least not the monetary value of them). --- Save the forum: Think before you post. ISK BUYER = LOSER EVE TV- Bring it back! Laptop, NVidia7900GS, Ubuntu 8.04, WINE |
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sliver 0xD
exiles. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2009.01.26 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: sliver 0xD on 26/01/2009 12:17:52
Originally by: CCP Mindstar
Originally by: sliver 0xD
Originally by: QwaarJet Cheers sliver.
if there are any alliances out there that wane trade in there spot for isk contact me or Qwaarjet.
No trading of spots will be allowed, as the tournament is underway already.
If you wish to pull out or give your spot to someone else, they will need to have their team join your alliance and compete as members.
i know. i would invite quarjet but that would only be a illusion becouse my alliance has a name to hold up and already has many players lined up and iam not even sure if i myself is gone be in next fight.
but if a alliance wants to drop out its only beter for CCP to get a big alliance in there that can put up a nice show. and remember this the eve-online alliance tournament. it represents the best of the best in eve. and i wane fight the best of the best.
so if someone wants to trade spots iam willing to compensate with isk to give MM a chance becouse i know they are worth it.
and iam sure we can arange something with CCP. but lets start with someone who wants to trade places. and u think its nuts that someone drops but it has happend a few times that players field crap becosue they just want there fee back. |
veldspar rockstar
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Posted - 2009.01.26 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Opertone I really wanted to see AAA, RED, MM, Razor, and many many other names famous in eve 0.0 politics.
Why on earth would anybody want to watch RZR PvP?
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StevieSG
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Posted - 2009.01.26 12:55:00 -
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The idea of a supposed... "dream team" is quite exciting :)
http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.26 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 26/01/2009 13:00:25
Originally by: StevieSG The idea of a supposed... "dream team" is quite exciting :)
didn't you do that last time and get ****ed by the devs? ;)
an enterprising individual could probably assemble a team of very, very good players, find corporate isk-sponsorship, pay the pilots for their trouble and stick themselves in chribba's alt-corp for an air of respectability/neutrality for the next tourney. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:31:00 -
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hm something about that sounds familiar |
GeneralNukeEm
Free Collective Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.01.26 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: GeneralNukeEm on 26/01/2009 16:04:44
Originally by: Glengrant I don't believe for a second that the early tournamants were played for the value of the prizes (regardless of comparative value of todays prizes).
The ships and setups of the first 3 tournaments were insanely expensive. Later tournaments allowed for much cheaper setups to be competetive. Plus almost everything in market has become cheaper since then. Not to forget that in the olden days plenty of faction hulls got used while most of the modern setups can be self-produced at cost.
I don't know why several big alliances didn't bother to apply - but I wouldn't think the prizes are the explanation in most cases (at least not the monetary value of them).
I think you underestimate the value of a mothership back in 2006 when you could probably count the total number of them in game on your fingers and when they were untackleable. This is back when dropping carriers on gates wasn't an automatic death sentence for said carriers because nobody always had 50 dreads on standby ready to hotdrop you. Even if the isk tradeoff of losing a bunch of faction ships in a tournament might not have been "worth it" per se, you really didn't have an isk value on motherships back then, not to mention that getting the infrastructure for building super-capitals set up and getting the blueprints/materials etc. is also a huge effort by itself. Win a tourny, get a mothership, seems like a much simpler plan.
The only state raven to have been publicly sold was allegedly sold for 80 billion isk. Don't pretend that five sets of pirate implants and a dozen navy battleships combined would have been worth even one of those ships. And the winners were given eight of them.
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QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.26 16:30:00 -
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I know Trevedian tried to recruit me into a dream team I think for the last tournament. Personally, working with the likes of Trevedian, Tyrrax, Tusko etc. would be an absolute honour, despite my loyalty to MM. |
ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.26 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk hm something about that sounds familiar
the bit about chribba's alt corp probably! :P
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 26/01/2009 18:26:31
Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk hm something about that sounds familiar
the bit about chribba's alt corp probably! :P
Well I'm an enterprising individual that assembled a team of very good players (f.i. NTRabbit, Vegeta, Trevedian, Tank CEO, dalman, Lord Zap to list some of the better known ones) in chribba's alt alliance ;d of course we used that alliance more cos it's funny than to get an air of respectability
not paying them tho, and no corporate sponsorship (like we'd need any heh) |
Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk toot toot, i am tooting my own horn i am better than the rest of you "lower class eve players"
fixed and btw your ghey -
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.27 02:51:00 -
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because the alliance tournament doesn't really prove anything, and has **** for rewards
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Xiong Yoshi
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.01.27 03:16:00 -
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A lot of people should be glad that I'm not in charge. I'd have rules like:
64 Team alliance, current pairing system is fine. 8 Slots would be reserved for top 8 from previous tourney. 8 Slots would be reserved for top Station holding alliances.
All alliances entering must have been created no less than 30 days prior to registration. All Pilots participating must have been a part of their corporation for no less than 30 days prior to tourney day, and that corp must have been part of the alliance for no less than 30 days prior to the tourney day.
It is an Alliance tourney - not an individual pilot's tourney.. not a dream team tourney. The Pilots who participate are supposed to be representing the alliance. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2009.01.27 04:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 27/01/2009 04:38:43
Originally by: Hubris
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk toot toot, i am tooting my own horn i am better than the rest of you "lower class eve players"
fixed and btw your ghey
i disagree, i think my post was saying (or at least hinting) that despite all the advantages we had, my sucking so much as an FC (and a pvper) caused us to lose anyway -_-
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Kitano
THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.01.27 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: The Hardman
Even PL, who are the favorites this time, wouldn't be such a big deal as beating Bob back then was, because they actually haven't won a tournament..
ZOMG it WShatners main
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.27 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I'm an enterprising individual
whatever else TT may or may not be, there's no denying that!
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