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Dramaan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 09:10:00 -
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you an buy my old main board only for 200ú whit the my old ati card that support s3  |

LordSwift
Unus Somnium Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:05:00 -
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Man how do people play eve on laptops. i have tried and dont like it. Plus i have a commodre case and i love it  |

MHayes
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:42:00 -
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Buy a better laptop /end.
It really annoys me when 3% of people are able to affect the other 97%. Relise that you are in the minority and that this is the best way for eve.
They cannot keep the old client going and make the new one as well so it is not an option without punishing the 97%.
I feel this 3% are a load of lazy ***** who have no job or something,time to buy a new one. consoles only last 5 years. your lappy lasted 4. Exciting. |

Furion iV
Minmatar Imperial Production
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:45:00 -
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I love all these people taking CCP's stats at face value. Has anyone here actually tried to play eve on the laptops with the intel chipsets that have SM3 support? Try it and tell me how it fairs for you. Personally, I dont enjoy the black stations and blue and purple ships.
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Cadde
Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2009.01.16 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Furion iV I love all these people taking CCP's stats at face value. Has anyone here actually tried to play eve on the laptops with the intel chipsets that have SM3 support? Try it and tell me how it fairs for you. Personally, I dont enjoy the black stations and blue and purple ships.
That is more of a problem with the laptop than with EvE. Update drivers much??? |

Furion iV
Minmatar Imperial Production
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Furion iV on 16/01/2009 16:08:37
Originally by: Cadde
Originally by: Furion iV I love all these people taking CCP's stats at face value. Has anyone here actually tried to play eve on the laptops with the intel chipsets that have SM3 support? Try it and tell me how it fairs for you. Personally, I dont enjoy the black stations and blue and purple ships.
That is more of a problem with the laptop than with EvE. Update drivers much???
Updated drivers on both; 1 is a dell and the other is an acer but both are Core 2 duo chipsets hence the same integrated. I personally don't use them but family members do and when my last laptop conked out(Radeon X1100, simply the best integrated), I upgraded to a capable desktop. I'm just saying that this is the general laptop integrated for Intel chipsets and it's naff tbh.
But still, I guess being sarcastic is fun eh?
Edit: Managed to add "But still" to the end twice. |

Piratejoe
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:23:00 -
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A. Not everyone can afford too update their computers at a whim. B. Alot more players then people realize play Eve on their laptops love it or hate it. C. Changing too SM3 in one year would alientate too many players too quickly since theirs alot of sytems out their that run SM2 and not SM3 at the moment. D. SM1 is almost a decade old technolgy and should be phased out. E. SM2 is almost outdated technolgy but not just yet since most Desktops use SM3 or can be updated, many laptops even brand new ones use SM2 technolgy. It would be a mistake too make Eve a Desktop only game.
My conclusion: SM2 needs too be phased out but not in one year from now, maybe in 2 years. |

Jaco Matari
Minmatar Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:30:00 -
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A lot of college students are probably going to get hit by this. A lot of people I know in college use laptops to take notes and don't necessarily have the space or inclination to have two computers so that they can have a desktop as well.
Also, I have no personal experience but wouldn't this really hurt people in the military as well? Lugging a desktop from deployment to deployment doesn't sound like fun.
All this cursing people who don't upgrade for being lazy bums is really funny though. People do have other things to pay for besides shiny new computers. Especially nowadays when the economy is in the tank a lot of people aren't even sure they'll have jobs in a few months. Can you really expect them to shell out any amount of cash for a computer upgrade when they might lose their house?
I understand that the game has to move forward, and that CCP is in this to make profit and will do what it must to insure that it does so. If discontinuing classic helps them do that then that's what they will do and they won't get any complaints from me.
What bugs me is people who get all superior and self righteous when it comes to their hardware or other people's lack thereof. |

Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:33:00 -
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So you just bought a brand new laptop with just an ATI X1250 graphics card?...And you intended to play at least one game on it? I'm sorry bro but I wouldn't even recommend that for Doom 3. Currently there are laptops with 9600M's on them for around $800~$1000.(Also if you intend to game on this laptop, don't think about spending a penny less otherwise you simply won't game well). More product research could have landed you a better laptop.
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Highwind Cid More product research could have landed you a better laptop.
More product research would have landed him a better laptop that wasn't GIVEN to him.... reading comprehension hits you, wrecking for over 9000
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Guilliman R
Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:19:00 -
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You've had 6 years to upgrade your laptop/pc QQ more. Get a job. Start putting away 50nucks a month or so, drink one beer less per day) and by next winter you'll have enough to buy a new machine.
Also, laptop to game on? and you complain you can't upgrade? If you actually look into gaming and laptops, then you should know a decent gaming laptop costs anywhere between 1k for a ****ty one and 3-5k for a 'perfect' one. A desktop will still own them too.
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Rufus MacMaranth
Gallente Shadow Front
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rufus MacMaranth on 16/01/2009 18:31:53
Originally by: Cadde
... stuff, assumptions and deciding people are lying ...
Let's get one thing straight, you are right I am not trying to help people move to SM3.0. I think it is bad for CCP to force this on people who wish to continue playing the game.
I think your position that CCP are right to force people to jump a technology generation with less than 12 months warning is plain wrong. This is my problem with your viewpoint.
Being a software architect, etc for a few years means I can figure out what I need to do to implement the hack. What it does to my PCs performance is another story which I would need to figure out. Whether I can do it or not, though is irrelevant. I still think you are wrong.
There has been plenty of go buy a desktop, etc and that was not directly aimed at you.
As to finances, $14.99 per month for 10 months gives me a total of $149.99 to buy something with. I took a quick look on e-bay and tbh, in the whole of the US, there were a whole 122 laptops with 15 inch screens and 2 GB of memory came up between $100-200. A good portion of that list was irrelevant. So, is it possible? I guess. Though the first couple I looked at were not suitable, so maybe not.
Personally I tend not to buy used equipment from people I do not know or where I can not personally inspect it. Especially where you do not know how the equipment has been treated.
I think Bish's estimates were sensible and reasonable. From the research I have done, to get a laptop that I will not have to change in a year and can use for more than playing EVE I believe $600 or $700 is more accurate by the time you add in tax and shipping, etc.
When I can afford it I will buy something new, but I have a problem with CCP swinging this on us with such short notice, and thus being asked to effectively stump up 3-4 years of subscriptions to keep playing the game.
But, as you have made clear your only goal is to help people see the error of their ways and move to new technology, right? If this is true they should not be buying anything less than a laptop with graphics capable of running SM4 right now, not an SM3 one, should they not? Probably make sure they have at least 3G of dedicated memory - not shared with the GFX card, yes? After all we have the new Windows coming out which is bound to use more memory.
But then that would break your price limit I guess.
Let's face it you and I will never agree on this. We have a fundamental disagreement. C'est la vie. |

Feilamya
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:34:00 -
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I hope they will also discontinue having two sets of ship models, or at least figure out how to fix the center-of-ship axis for the "premium" models.
"Premium" should be the default. If something can't work with both Premium and Premium Light or Premium Extra Crappy, then make it work in Premium. |

Qordel
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:35:00 -
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CCP bringing this with such short notice? Nearly a year heads-up that they might cease to support something?? What do you people need, an advanced notice of a decade?! It's a videogame; not a notice that your OS is EOSL'd. |

Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2009.01.16 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Highwind Cid on 16/01/2009 19:12:30
Originally by: Steel Tigeress
Originally by: Highwind Cid More product research could have landed you a better laptop.
More product research would have landed him a better laptop that wasn't GIVEN to him.... reading comprehension hits you, wrecking for over 9000
Quote: What i do know is that i JUST bought a new laptop this winter, it hit all of the MAXIMUM requirements for the SM3 but the graphics carp.
At the same time I activate a T9 Jove reflective shield hardener, reflecting reading comprehension at you with an accelerated force insta popping you.
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Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2009.01.16 19:14:00 -
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STUFF GIEV NAO!
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