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Sir Murtog	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:13:28 Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:12:29 Several attempts to resolve this issue with out public has failed Eve Online is violating my legal rights as a paying customer by allowing this person to act in violation of the EULA to attempt to drive away potential paying customers from the Eve Online game. Before the server can even post a combat log I get this mail From Player Flybiere Quote: 2009.01.15 14:34 Fair dos. The reason I found out who you are is because you are the CEO of a corparation that was declared war on by Fatalix Aftermath. From what I can tell your character has been in eve for a very short time and was wondering if your corporation (like mine) required help in its war effort. It sounds as though you have no idea what is going on tho so I think you should quit. EvE is unforgiving and player like Krestin have no sympathy for anyone who hasnt been playing since Beta. Sorry Dude my ignoring your eve mail doesnt make me noob my account of 4 years as Rakella of GFB and CEO was lost because I was undergoing Cancer treatments for grade 9 bone marrow cancer account expired so I started a new account However this mistreatment and abuse sanctioned by the EVE SUPPORT is going to be my evidence to Bank America to dispute my start up charges, and client fitness issues that I did not expect. So we have Flybiere actng as agent to get some sorta response for the PKer Krestin who seems to prefer 6 day old players because he can't fight against anything tougher and together they are attempting to encourage people to cancel their subscription and stop paying Eve Online I intend to oblige this player and terminate both Sir Murtog and Sir Xofkin the other 7 people including my oldest son ,if any of you recall Lodlaiden that is my oldest son, and my wife, daughters ,and friends like Paul in Canada will not be reactivating accounts or creating new ones. And I will be requesting my bank to recover the charges to the account not yet spent as I am still in the FREE TRIAL PERIOD on both accounts and let Eve have it abusive players and some other game provider have my MONEY
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:14:00 - [2] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 16/01/2009 10:14:04 In short; how would another player know of your in-life events? You can't really accuse someone of being "insensitive", unless you have logs showing he did something to your naughty bits AFTER you told your naughty bits were extra-sensitive. Or i got this completely wrong, in which case, flames points at own bum here.
Ecky X SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:15:00 - [3] Uh... what?
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:18:00 - [4] 1. Errr what is the issue? You got wardecced and received an abusive evemail? 2. You could always file a harrasment petition on grounds of him ooc/oog abusing you (i.e. the quiting eve reference). 3. Why'd you start a new account in the first place, you can simply reactivate your old character. It's not like it's been deleted. /confused
Debonair Dan	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:18:00 - [5] if it helps, what you say, makes little sense. The fact that you are bringing up past serious real life events into a game also suggests that you may perhaps still be suffering from trauma and are completely over-reacting. go get some counselling, this has nothing to do with eve.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:19:00 - [6] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 16/01/2009 10:20:41 If both accounts are still on trial what monies are to be recovered? You can talk to lawyers all you want, but you have no recourse. EIDT: Originally by: DrAtomic 3. Why'd you start a new account in the first place, you can simply reactivate your old character. It's not like it's been deleted. /confused Slade
State Security Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:21:00 - [7] Telling new playing, and soon to be paying, customers to quit is a no-no.
Navtiqes Noob Mercs	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Sir Murtog text You don't make any sense. From what I can tell the guy that mailed you hasn't had any contact with CCP.
Camilo Cienfuegos Earned In Blood	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:24:00 - [9] Quote: Telling new playing, and soon to be paying, customers to quit is a no-no. I think to be honest that the mail in the original post was giving fairly sound advice. Given the first line of the post "Fair dos" as well, we can surmise that there is an entire other side to this story that we are not getting to see. I think that mail is telling it like it is rather than telling this person to leave specifically. It's not well worded, but it's clearly saying "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen".
mcnuggetlol Amarr Cold Blooded Killers	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:28:00 - [10] Yeah good luck with that
SentryRaven KIA Corp	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Quote: Telling new playing, and soon to be paying, customers to quit is a no-no. I think to be honest that the mail in the original post was giving fairly sound advice. Given the first line of the post "Fair dos" as well, we can surmise that there is an entire other side to this story that we are not getting to see. I think that mail is telling it like it is rather than telling this person to leave specifically. It's not well worded, but it's clearly saying "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". I'd share this view. How many people on the forums have told others to "quitktxbye" and "getback2wow" and have not been banned for it or punished? Nothing wrong with telling someone to gtfo of the game, if they can't stand the heat.
AnonyTerrorNinja Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:36:00 - [12] 1. This guy is violating the EULA by giving an opinion alluding to another (potentially new) player quitting the game. 2. He is not violating any of your legal rights, as facilities are available to you to ignore him; griefing you in the game is not a violation of your out of game legal rights, as you are not forced to take part in playing the game. 3. Why'd you not simply reactivate your character of 4 years? I agree with the others tho that there seems to be a side to this story that we are not seeing. If someone is harassing you from a single character, block them. If they create or use other characters to continue to harass you, put on a CSPA charge of 1mil; it'll either tone down gradually or stop completely. Failing this, petition him for harassment. If they are isolating you and picking on you as an individual, regardless of how young your character is, they know that you are not a 'new' player of EVE and are thus specifically targeting you. Intentional individualization of players known to be new to the game and picking on them would be against the EULA; picking on someone's new alt on the other hand, where you have evidence to support your claim that they are simply an alt, is not against the EULA as far as I know.
Sir Murtog	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:37:00 - [13] Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:44:25 Originally by: State Security Telling new playing, and soon to be paying, customers to quit is a no-no. Not soon to be paying the accounts have already have 60 days paid in advance before the characters were even created My youngest son and I developed our first skills in first 30-36 hrs moved to Luminaire began mining rented our corp offices and began working to rebuild our old game mining corp as a new collective The player Krestin also a noobish miner alt in Luminaire belt 5 and appears maybe to also be Flybiere considering his Eve mail arrived before the combat log did from the podding incident. Is attempting by abusive actions and suggestive QUOTED in-game Eve mail to get players to LEAVE THE GAME and not render PAYMENTS to Eve Online So that they in their pathetic real lives can have their imaginary pixelated world to themselves. I recently retired as a Corporate General Secretary in real life I have children and grand children and find the pathetic actions of people like this to be the evidence for death being a blessing I finally get away from the idiots at last. I am not upset about being attacked in game its part of the game. I am not upset about losing a ship that I now no longer would fly anyways. I am so new my ability to fly new ships comes every 24-36 hrs. I am upset that a player can literally attempt to force new PAYING customers away from the game by aggressive abusive game play using alts to attempt cover true identity(dude your MAC address tells all) and the Eve support finds no fault in this action. If I went down the local Ford Dealer ship and told some guy looking at a Mustang to NOT BUY THE CAR and go look at a Nissan I could be arrested. But a player attacking a new 6 day player in Eve and telling by using an alt account to just quit now and leave the Eve game is ok with the Eve Support staff. Keep going folks you wont be able to afford 56k per 4 remaining customers soon.
ThaDollaGenerale The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:39:00 - [14] wait...what? I totally don't get this.
Yaggher Xanuben Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:39:00 - [15] ... stuff? Seriously, I don't know what the original statement looked like, too many edits. And it still makes no sense to me. You get mail before server can post combat logs? Quote: PKer Krestin Go back to WoW? And why are you sharing personal information on these boards? I don't want to know about your friend Paul in Canada nor your sons and daughters and wives. Grow up. You sound like a bitter teenager. There. You got a response no more mature as your post. Good luck with the bank.
mcnuggetlol Amarr Cold Blooded Killers	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:40:00 - [16] Honestly I don't even know what's going on it's just entertaining to read.
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:43:00 - [17] Edited by: NeoTheo on 16/01/2009 10:43:12 Originally by: Sir Murtog random rubbish. seriously dude, get off the forums, your whines are making my ears bleed.
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:44:00 - [18] I can only wish you the best with your (mental?) (health?) problems.
Cadde Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:44:00 - [19] Are you serious?
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:47:00 - [20] Awesome troll. Your bank won't get your money back, however. Enjoy your cancer.
State Security Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:48:00 - [21] Was going to do a linky, but what the heck, you go look at the Rules of Conduct, EULA and Suspension and Ban Policy. ...or because you can't post at the end of them "gtfo this is MY EVE", this is the wrong group for actual reading?
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H.	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:52:00 - [22] Originally by: Sir Murtog Eve Online is violating my legal rights as a paying customer by allowing this person to act in violation of the EULA to attempt to drive away potential paying customers from the Eve Online game. LOL. A game EULA gives you no legal rights at all. The only thing you are entitled to is to get laughed at here for being pathetic. Nobody even broke the EULA here besides you, by posting in-game communication with peoples names.
Camilo Cienfuegos Earned In Blood	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Quote: Telling new playing, and soon to be paying, customers to quit is a no-no. I think to be honest that the mail in the original post was giving fairly sound advice. Given the first line of the post "Fair dos" as well, we can surmise that there is an entire other side to this story that we are not getting to see. I think that mail is telling it like it is rather than telling this person to leave specifically. It's not well worded, but it's clearly saying "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". [/thread]
SharpMango 14th Legion	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Concorduck Enjoy your cancer. wow, you disgust me concord, have shame on yourself.
Kessiaan Minmatar Army of One	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:58:00 - [25] What the HELL are you talking about? Originally by: Sir Murtog Not soon to be paying the accounts have already have 60 days paid in advance before the characters were even created That's your mistake, though, to be honest, when I started I subbed right away because I couldn't find the option to trial first :P Quote: My youngest son and I developed our first skills in first 30-36 hrs moved to Luminaire began mining rented our corp offices and began working to rebuild our old game mining corp as a new collective If you had a four year old character why didn't you just reactive him? Unless you're full of **, which I find more likely as your comments reveal a complete lack of understand of how this game works. Quote: The player Krestin also a noobish miner alt in Luminaire belt 5 and appears maybe to also be Flybiere considering his Eve mail arrived before the combat log did from the podding incident. Is attempting by abusive actions and suggestive QUOTED in-game Eve mail to get players to LEAVE THE GAME and not render PAYMENTS to Eve Online There's nothing abusive about what he said in his mail. He told you to pull your head out of your ass or GTFO. Seems like good advice, to me. Quote: So that they in their pathetic real lives can have their imaginary pixelated world to themselves. And your point is...? Quote: I recently retired as a Corporate General Secretary in real life I have children and grand children and find the pathetic actions of people like this to be the evidence for death being a blessing I finally get away from the idiots at last. Nobody cares. Thanks for sharing though. Quote: I am not upset about being attacked in game its part of the game. I am not upset about losing a ship that I now no longer would fly anyways. I am so new my ability to fly new ships comes every 24-36 hrs. OK, this is the first intelligent thing you've said so far. Quote: I am upset that a player can literally attempt to force new PAYING customers away from the game by aggressive abusive game play using alts to attempt cover true identity(dude your MAC address tells all) and the Eve support finds no fault in this action. He said nothing improper. It's not likely he's even connected with the pirate the way you think he is. It seems like he just watched you get your ass handed to you, probably go off and make a fool out yourself in local, and gave you some good advice. Quote: If I went down the local Ford Dealer ship and told some guy looking at a Mustang to NOT BUY THE CAR and go look at a Nissan I could be arrested. You can tell some random guy looking at a Mustang anything you want. You can't be arrested unless you've been previously informed you're unwelcome and then refused to leave. A better analogy might be you're out in some shady part of town, you know, the part where the cops don't really give a crap, trying to earn a living, and you get your ass kicked by the local thugs, and some guy who knows what's going on gives you some advice to figure out what you're doing ASAP (and he even offers to help!) or go back to a less rough neighborhood. Quote: But a player attacking a new 6 day player in Eve and telling by using an alt account to just quit now and leave the Eve game is ok with the Eve Support staff. Sure is. Everyone goes through this. Some (gasp!) even manage to figure out how to take care of themselves without depending on NPCs to save their sorry asses. Quote:** Keep going folks you wont be able to afford 56k per 4 remaining customers soon. You sound like the exact kind of person EvE is designed not to appeal to. I heartily endorse the suggestion that you quit. Can I have your stuff?
Confuzer Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2009.01.16 10:59:00 - [26] I can totally get into what you are saying Sir Murtog. So does, as you probably will know Patriarch2, my long lasting friend which i chat to each day, from Belgium. Also my girlfriend, and even my mom Agree with you. And yes my gf has her baby in 3 months so your stress adds to hers. Which violates the Eula!
Hywang	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:00:00 - [27] So you got podded in a belt in hisec (wardec? suicide gank?) got into a evemail flamewar with said pirate which basically ended with him saying 'If you don't like it leave'. I don't see anything wrong with any of it to be honest, its all part of the game. The ultimate goal in 0.0 of course being to kill everyone and take their stuff, if they leave, even better then you can take their moons. If this upsets you, something tells me your not really a 4 year old vet, or you'd know better how unforgiving EVE is.
Gilgamesh1980 The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:01:00 - [28] so just out of interest, before yo brought this whine to the forums, to let peopel talk about something they cant influence anyway, did you at least petition this apparent herassment? cause if not, then I hear Hello Kitty online is pretty badass these days this is a game, stop taking it serious, if he wardecs you and constantly pounds you with smakc and mails, then petition him for herrassment or griefing tactics, but if you REALLY think that you will be able to claim your money back cause someone is a meany meany to you in a virtual world, then sir, yo are very mistaken, plus, stopping playing afte rpaying 24 buck for a GTC is cheaper than a legal process.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Sir Murtog Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:23:44 Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:23:19 Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:13:28 Edited by: Sir Murtog on 16/01/2009 10:12:29 Several attempts to resolve this issue with out public post have failed Eve Online is violating my legal rights as a paying customer by allowing this person to act in violation of the EULA to attempt to drive away potential paying customers from the Eve Online game. Before the server can even post a combat log I get this mail From Player Flybiere Quote: 2009.01.15 14:34 Fair dos. The reason I found out who you are is because you are the CEO of a corparation that was declared war on by Fatalix Aftermath. From what I can tell your character has been in eve for a very short time and was wondering if your corporation (like mine) required help in its war effort. It sounds as though you have no idea what is going on tho so I think you should quit. EvE is unforgiving and player like Krestin have no sympathy for anyone who hasnt been playing since Beta. Sorry Dude my ignoring your eve mail doesnt make me noob my account of 4 years as Rakella of GFB and CEO was lost because I was undergoing Cancer treatments for grade 9 bone marrow cancer account expired so I started a new account However this mistreatment and abuse sanctioned by the EVE SUPPORT is going to be my evidence to Bank America to dispute my start up charges, and client fitness issues that I did not expect. So we have Flybiere actng as agent to get some sorta response for the PKer Krestin who seems to prefer 6 day old players because he can't fight against anything tougher and together they are attempting to encourage people to cancel their subscription and stop paying Eve Online I intend to oblige this player and terminate both Sir Murtog and Sir Xofkin the other 7 people including my oldest son ,if any of you recall Lodlaiden that is my oldest son, and my wife, daughters ,and friends like Paul in Canada will not be reactivating accounts or creating new ones. And I will be requesting my bank to recover the charges to the account not yet spent as I am still in the FREE TRIAL PERIOD on both accounts and let Eve have it's abusive players and some other game provider have my MONEY What? He is free to send you any mail he wants, and use the game mechanincs as he want. Just ignore him You reaction is quite frakly stupid.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:08:00 - [30] Edited by: Typhado3 on 16/01/2009 11:13:58 if a friendly email warning your life was gonna be hard as someone was trying to grief you is enough reason for you to quit.... umm wait what, a guy told you information about your in-game enemy and gave you advise, maybe not good advise but it seems to be he was trying to help you and your crying about it on the eve forums and quitting? not just quitting but making all your friends/family quit with you? seriously there must be some major part of this story I am missing.

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