EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known.
Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).

EVE isnt as popular as other MMO's because only those who are hard enough to handle being greifed by sociopaths stay on long enough to fall in love with the game.

EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known.
Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).

Now some may argue that this is good for EVE, as weak minded people have been so harrassed by sociopathic behaviour that they have been effectively run out of town, leaving only a hardened minority behind.

But that still doesnt change the perception that EVE gets in the gaming world at large. And that is a well deserved perception, as it is based upon years of fact.

It seems to me that CCP does not want EVE to get too popular. Im not even sure that Tranquility can handle millions of active players without immense capital investment.

But at the end of the day, what makes EVE so horrible ( its sociopathic players ), is also what makes it so good. EVE is hard. If EVE was easy, and everybody got along holding hands and singing koom bai ya (sp), it would be as boring as hell. No risk means rewards have no value.

The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.

Keep EVE hard.

The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.

Eve has been reduced to dev hand holding, back in the day concord was tankable and didn't stop you from shooting more

bla bla sociopaths bla bla

Sociopathy

Hare writes that the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy may "reflect the user's views on the origins and determinates of the disorder." The term sociopathy may be preferred by sociologists that see the causes as due to social factors. The term psychopathy may be preferred by psychologists who see the causes as due to a combination of psychological, genetic, and environmental factors.

David T. Lykken proposed psychopathy and sociopathy are two distinct kinds of antisocial personality disorder. He believed psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claimed that sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. In other words, psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental.

A sociopath is a person who has antisocial personality disorder. The term sociopath is no longer used to describe this disorder. The sociopath is now described as someone with antisocial personality disorder.

The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.

Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.

Although these symptoms are all present, they may not always be evident. Research has shown that the sociopath is usually a person with an abundance of charm and wit. He or she may appear friendly and considerate, but these attributes are usually superficial. They are used as a way of blinding the other person to the personal agenda behind the sociopathGÇÖs behaviour.

Many people with antisocial personality disorder frequently indulge in alcohol or drug use. They may use these substances heavily as a way of heightening their antisocial personality. The sociopath sometimes sees the world on his or her own terms, as a place of high drama and risky thrills. The sociopath may suffer from low self esteem, and the use of alcohol and drugs is a way to diminish these feelings.

The causes of antisocial personality disorder are thought to be either genetic or environmental. Children who are influenced by antisocial parents may adopt these tendencies. Similarly, role models such as one's friends or peer group may also influence the behaviour pattern of a sociopath. Antisocial behaviour is more likely to occur in men than in women. About 1% of women have this disorder, while 3% of men are affected by it.

It is very rare for a person with antisocial personality disorder to seek help of their own accord. Treatment for antisocial personality disorder is usually through group psychotherapy. Sociopaths often find it helpful to talk through and recognize their problems with people they can trust. In a number of cases, this type of personality disorder tends to diminish from the age of 30 onwards.

The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.

Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.

This all falls flat because you assume the people playing the game are the same as their characters in-game.

Hey, it's a "Goons are all sociopaths" thread. Who wants to take numbers on the OP being a Serene Repose alt?

I've got 5 on Scooter.

If any of this sounds familiar, seek help



Likely the bits we see

BECAUSE ITS A GODDAMNED GAME

If any of this sounds familiar, seek help



Likely the bits we see

BECAUSE ITS A GODDAMNED GAME

Here are my top 5 reasons for EVE being "unpopular".

#1: It's hard to be a solo player, because some missions and most PvP combat require multiple players.
#2: Training is incredibly time consuming, most people would rather take on the task of "farming" then waiting.
#3: Losing ships is incredibly easy for new players.
#4: Operation and Selection of weapons & modules in general is a bit advanced compared to most games.
#5: People are assholes in this game.

EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known.

No, it's not.
It is full of people who cannot separate game from reality, and who exhibit feelings of victimisation or persecution along with poor emotional controlGǪ almost suggesting some form of BPD or schizophrenia.

No, it's not.
It is full of people who cannot separate game from reality, and who exhibit feelings of victimisation or persecution along with poor emotional controlGǪ almost suggesting some form of BPD or schizophrenia.

Sweeping nonsensical diagnoses are fun.

I actually agree. Mittens seems to have a signficant difficulty with that reality/game thing.

"im drunk" defense roflmao

You mean the defence he didn't use since he explicitly said it didn't excuse anything?

Yes, people who keep bringing up that GÇ£defenceGÇ¥ in spite of the fact that it wasn't actually invoked have a hard time separating reality and their own imagination.

you know neckbears would have sum it up in less words

I actually agree. Mittens seems to have a signficant difficulty with that reality/game thing.

"im drunk" defense roflmao

Posting to confirm that I played a Tauren Restoration Shaman, thus I can throw glowing leaves around and spend my afternoons chewing grass in the back-yard.

No, it's not.
It is full of people who cannot separate game from reality

this argument is kind of old, and it does not work.

the person who conducts sociopathic behavior in game obviously compensates for the lack of ability to conduct the same way in real life due to fear of law or the lack of social options or whatever else.

This all falls flat because you assume the people playing the game are the same as their characters in-game.

GǪby which I can only assume that you're referring to the sociopath argument, since it's not something that can be read from a game GÇö especially one where gameplay dictates a different behaviour than real life. In factGǪ

GǪthat pretty much means they're not sociopaths since the defining characteristic of APD is that those RL inhibitions don't exist.

EVE isnt as popular as other MMO's because only those who are hard enough to handle being greifed by sociopaths stay on long enough to fall in love with the game.

EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known.
Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).

Now some may argue that this is good for EVE, as weak minded people have been so harrassed by sociopathic behaviour that they have been effectively run out of town, leaving only a hardened minority behind.

But that still doesnt change the perception that EVE gets in the gaming world at large. And that is a well deserved perception, as it is based upon years of fact.

It seems to me that CCP does not want EVE to get too popular. Im not even sure that Tranquility can handle millions of active players without immense capital investment.

But at the end of the day, what makes EVE so horrible ( its sociopathic players ), is also what makes it so good. EVE is hard. If EVE was easy, and everybody got along holding hands and singing koom bai ya (sp), it would be as boring as hell. No risk means rewards have no value.

The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.

Keep EVE hard.

what gameplay dictates to go and suicide gank newbie mining barges en masse?

all those formal definitions are only good for law, but if you want to know what the person really is, it's enough to know that he enjoys the same activities sociopaths enjoy (even though not in the same world) which means that they have something in common. that's enough for me.