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Nexa Necis Amarr The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:07:00 - [1] Once again our war targets have jumped to an alliance to avoid us. Initially we dec'd a corp called Industrial Legion of Eve. They had an old war target of ours in corp and since that war target never paid, we told them we would follow them indefinitely until they do. So the dec went through and I was convoed by several people from ILOE claiming to be diplomats. They initiated negotiations but never got back to me. I was going to offer that either they boot the person from corp or pay 250mil. Since they never got back to me, the war raged on. Another corp dec'd us called Terminal Logic. Terminal claims to be friends with ILOE while ILOE claims that is their "pvp" wing. Conflicting stories as usual. Regardless it proved to be a lot of fun. Both of them brought ships aplenty to fight and there were wins and losses on both sides with the wins in our favor overall. I was even convoed by some alliance person who ILOE had applied to. Once I showed him why we decd them and their subsequent smack talk, he opted to not let them in their alliance. Wise choice. Instead they ran and hid into an alliance called Night's Dawn. One of their diplos convoed me and I explained the reason for the war and such. They asked what could be done to end it. I explained at this point ILOE would need to pay up for all their smack talk and such. I was explained to that Night's Dawn doesn't allow smacktalk and they offered to have the ILOE guys apologize. Lt Weiss > I apologize for that Lt Weiss > my guys never should speak in local Lt Weiss > I apologize and if you feel approriate I will have them draft and apology letter Then I was brought into a group convo with REPO attempting to mediate the situation. Lt Weiss > if you wish to continue the war against Night's Dawn that would be your choice Lt Weiss > but the member you said you wanted removed has been removed Hans Gates > Nexa follows some very simple rules, he will stay the course untill it is complete, I know that of him. Lt Weiss > so that should be the end of the issue Nexa Necis > it would originally Nexa Necis > prior to them hiring people, prior to them jumping into your alliance to avoid us Nexa Necis > them paying 250mil is a joke Nexa Necis > thats hella cheap Lt Weiss > if they should continue to stay at war that is ok with us I just simply didnt want to be at war with friends of REPO Lt Weiss > well gentleman thank you for your time the member has been removed as a condition and a courtesy to TRAPS and REPO I hope that this solves the issue Hans as always thank you for your time. Good Evening o7 I never once agreed to end the war at that point based on them removing the original target. So I renewed the war actually and we kept on killing them. Then finally some of the ND people start showing up in local. Guess what follows? Yep, smacktalk. Completely unsolicited mind you. They had popped a Ishkur a few mins prior several jumps away from me. Another guy of mine in an Ishkur jumped in and died. Ishkur vs Harbi and Phoon. Nothing to brag about, right? Wrong! Pyrasanth > when u want to pvp and not let your corp mates die then give me a shout Pyrasanth > u don't even help ur friends Pyrasanth > u and ur corp suck fairly badly Nexa Necis > we suck so bad make the war mutual and leave it running all year :) Pyrasanth > theres no point, u don't even fight Pyrasanth > u don't, even when we enage your so called gangs u sit in stations Pyrasanth > fail is fail dude Pyrasanth > killing a drake every now and then is fine, its not really going to bother anyone Pyrasanth > u and urs are a waste of time lol Pyrasanth > say thanks for the assault frig kills btw Pyrasanth > for the all **** you talk u really can't back anything up With all his smack he refused to fight me alone. He decided to bait me on the station. When he saw his Claymore couldn't take my Domi, he docked and waited for backup.
Nexa Necis Amarr The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:08:00 - [2] [ 2009.01.17 17:40:38 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II hits Pyrasanth [DHARM]<ND>(Claymore), doing 46.2 damage. [ 2009.01.17 17:40:39 ] (notify) Target is invulnerable. I mean if I suck so bad, surely a Claymore can kill me and my crappy Dominix, no? Apparently not. I convoed their diplo to ask why such hostile talk since they claimed previously that they don't allow such behavior. He claimed I lied about retracting the war and that I talked smack about them on our killboard. As you can see, I never agreed to dropping the war at any point. If you look at our KB, all it says is that ILOE pulled the typical cheap move of running into an alliance to hide from us. It said nothing about the ND alliance at all. Even the ND diplo conceded that ILOE ended up joining hastily due to the war against them. ILOE also hired several mercs to kill us as well which ND alliance denies. So somehow, 2 completely unrelated random corps dec'd TRAPS and another corp named Muppet Ninja's who also had ILOE decd? Anyone else buying that ILOE had nothing to do with hiring mercs? Me neither. We also ended up decing Terminal Logic as well who also ended up running into the ND alliance. We just renewed the war fees on them and it will go on for a few more weeks at least. I cannot guarantee we will win every fight as we are greatly outnumbered as usual. I can guarantee we will inflict much more damage than the surrender fee that was offered.
Kylezanto Minmatar The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:09:00 - [3] First is an awesome thread!
Shaloran Kalior Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:18:00 - [4] 2nd! Looking forward to some fun :) Post with your main!
M'ing Pai Caldari The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:22:00 - [5] More smacktalk from an alliance that doesn't smack. Good going, Lt Weiss. I think Major was spot on about you: Neoxi Teta > pai you can uncloak now x_X Pyrasanth > So Falcon, Domi, Astarte and u won't engage? Nexa the FC by chance? Pyrasanth > u guys need a new CEO This was news to me that there were 4 of us, since I was the one in a falcon. Neoxi Teta > and FC xD Pyrasanth > oh look I can wait in station for the mission runners...yawn....oh you're dead? Sorry guys I was docked up as usual Neoxi Teta > lol and autopilot during war awww.... Neoxi Teta > Not sure what he was refering to with the AP comment. I'm guessing he was talking about the first kill against an AF, but since I was in direct communication with that person during the engagement, AP seems unlikely. Kind of funny to be proud of 2 separate AF kills when you're sporting a Harbi and a Phoon. Double webs on an AF and poof. Not something I'd consider smack worthy
Alexis Acantha Caldari The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:27:00 - [6] What they're saying is basically that they don't allow smack talk UNLESS it's to someone that smacked first? Since when do smack talk rules have contingencies? What makes it even more ludicrous is Nexa's stand on smalk talk in general. Quote: I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible
Alexis Acantha Caldari The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.17 19:39:00 - [7] Originally by: M'ing Pai Neoxi Teta > and FC xD Pyrasanth > oh look I can wait in station for the mission runners...yawn....oh you're dead? Sorry guys I was docked up as usual Neoxi Teta > lol and autopilot during war awww.... Neoxi Teta > As the alleged AP pilot, I can assure anyone that reads this that I never use AP, even in peace times. I actually warped to the gate at zero, and tried to jump through before and upon being engaged. Because of lag I was unable to jump or activate my repper, and even after my ship popped, couldn't get away to save my pod. We'll see how that petition goes... Quote: I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible
Kanya Nague Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.17 20:44:00 - [8] Need more EVE-pirate stories! :D
Vandamsel Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.01.17 20:49:00 - [9] Go TRAPS Go
Haakelen Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.17 22:51:00 - [10] Originally by: Kanya Nague Need more EVE-pirate stories! :D This tbh.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.01.17 22:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Nexa Necis Once again our war targets have jumped to an alliance to avoid us. Initially we dec'd a corp called Industrial Legion of Eve. They had an old war target of ours in corp and since that war target never paid, we told them we would follow them indefinitely until they do. So the dec went through and I was convoed by several people from ILOE claiming to be diplomats. They initiated negotiations but never got back to me. I was going to offer that either they boot the person from corp or pay 250mil. Since they never got back to me, the war raged on. Another corp dec'd us called Terminal Logic. Terminal claims to be friends with ILOE while ILOE claims that is their "pvp" wing. Conflicting stories as usual. Regardless it proved to be a lot of fun. Both of them brought ships aplenty to fight and there were wins and losses on both sides with the wins in our favor overall. I was even convoed by some alliance person who ILOE had applied to. Once I showed him why we decd them and their subsequent smack talk, he opted to not let them in their alliance. Wise choice. Instead they ran and hid into an alliance called Night's Dawn. One of their diplos convoed me and I explained the reason for the war and such. They asked what could be done to end it. I explained at this point ILOE would need to pay up for all their smack talk and such. I was explained to that Night's Dawn doesn't allow smacktalk and they offered to have the ILOE guys apologize. Lt Weiss > I apologize for that Lt Weiss > my guys never should speak in local Lt Weiss > I apologize and if you feel approriate I will have them draft and apology letter Then I was brought into a group convo with REPO attempting to mediate the situation. Lt Weiss > if you wish to continue the war against Night's Dawn that would be your choice Lt Weiss > but the member you said you wanted removed has been removed Hans Gates > Nexa follows some very simple rules, he will stay the course untill it is complete, I know that of him. Lt Weiss > so that should be the end of the issue Nexa Necis > it would originally Nexa Necis > prior to them hiring people, prior to them jumping into your alliance to avoid us Nexa Necis > them paying 250mil is a joke Nexa Necis > thats hella cheap Lt Weiss > if they should continue to stay at war that is ok with us I just simply didnt want to be at war with friends of REPO Lt Weiss > well gentleman thank you for your time the member has been removed as a condition and a courtesy to TRAPS and REPO I hope that this solves the issue Hans as always thank you for your time. Good Evening o7 I never once agreed to end the war at that point based on them removing the original target. So I renewed the war actually and we kept on killing them. Then finally some of the ND people start showing up in local. Guess what follows? Yep, smacktalk. Completely unsolicited mind you. They had popped a Ishkur a few mins prior several jumps away from me. Another guy of mine in an Ishkur jumped in and died. Ishkur vs Harbi and Phoon. Nothing to brag about, right? Wrong! Pyrasanth > when u want to pvp and not let your corp mates die then give me a shout Pyrasanth > u don't even help ur friends Pyrasanth > u and ur corp suck fairly badly Nexa Necis > we suck so bad make the war mutual and leave it running all year :) Pyrasanth > theres no point, u don't even fight Pyrasanth > u don't, even when we enage your so called gangs u sit in stations Pyrasanth > fail is fail dude Pyrasanth > killing a drake every now and then is fine, its not really going to bother anyone Pyrasanth > u and urs are a waste of time lol Pyrasanth > say thanks for the assault frig kills btw Pyrasanth > for the all **** you talk u really can't back anything up With all his smack he refused to fight me alone. He decided to bait me on the station. When he saw his Claymore couldn't take my Domi, he docked and waited for backup. GG Nexa, and please write more eve-pirate stories. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Aaron Mirrorsaver Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.17 23:18:00 - [12] traps, the really awful players ------ RECON is recruiting
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.17 23:25:00 - [13] :( I'm kinda sad, cause it's preferable you wait till the situation has concluded, that way, once we read your story, we'll have the whole story. Now, once this is all over, and you post it in Eve-Pirate, we'll already know 3/4's of the story, and not enojoy it as much.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.17 23:29:00 - [14] yarrr? hating caldari's since... well factional warfare
Major Dickdick Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:12:00 - [15] Lol morons, I can has wardec them too soon, when yours end tbfh.
Nexa Necis Amarr The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:22:00 - [16] Yeah I'd rather write a story on Eve-Pirate but I've been working a LOT of overtime so that plus when I log in, I try to kill people as much as I can. I haven't been camped in much, so maybe since Night's Dawn said I will be perma-docked due to their extreme camping abilities, I will have time to write a giant story on Eve Pirate. I will be posting a new thread here though. I just got one of the best threat mails from the head of a large alliance because we stole his mission loot and salvaged his mission. He made a ton of over the top threats which will be comedy gold! Just wait.
NoMoreLies Caldari Project Nemesis	Posted - 2009.01.18 01:41:00 - [17] Good to see you still having fun Nexa. Give our regards to Night's Dawn __________________________
XJennieX Minmatar Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2009.01.18 09:13:00 - [18] so you are following around and harassing one particular player? pretty much harassment in my opinion. oh well. i hope he understands to petition so you can get what you deserve.
Generalkey Caldari Primary Industries	Posted - 2009.01.18 09:20:00 - [19] Quote: Good to see you still having fun Nexa. Give our regards to Night's Dawn only because pron failed to do so.
herindoors x Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.18 10:29:00 - [20] Originally by: XJennieX so you are following around and harassing one particular player? pretty much harassment in my opinion. oh well. i hope he understands to petition so you can get what you deserve. I see you understand how this game allows players to function. Do please petition your next loss to mission NPCs.
Sorrowed Gallente Shade. Penumbra Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.18 11:16:00 - [21] This is an awsome thread. So, if i smack you in your system you will wardec my alliance and then follow me around like a fan boy for the next 2 years? Where do i sighn up?
Karlen Velro Caldari Kurtz's Kommandos	Posted - 2009.01.18 12:03:00 - [22] we dec'ed ND not that long ago and they decided to get a merc alliance to dec us back (all 11 of us ) have fun with these guys but watch yourself, the minute u start getting kills in equal fights they revert to bait traps with epic blobs nearby (4 bc's, 2 bs and a BB for my one little CS )
Lorzion Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.18 16:43:00 - [23] Edited by: Lorzion on 18/01/2009 16:43:47 Lols p.s. I <3 you ming. convo me sometime you gay.
Nexa Necis Amarr The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.18 17:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Karlen Velro we dec'ed ND not that long ago and they decided to get a merc alliance to dec us back (all 11 of us ) have fun with these guys but watch yourself, the minute u start getting kills in equal fights they revert to bait traps with epic blobs nearby (4 bc's, 2 bs and a BB for my one little CS ) I totally believe this. Even though they claim TRAPS sucks and we're a waste of their time, they spent a heckuva lot of time focusing on us this weekend. Their bait traps are total fail and so obvious. Last night I went out hunting and found their blob. Their uber tactic was to undock a Drake on the station and get me toENGAGE, while their BACKUP sat on the gate next door. They make no sense. I mean they say TRAPS suck, they say I suck, they say we're a waste of time. Yet they had 10 of em sitting waiting on camping me and trying to catch me in a weak ass bait tactic? I mean you really need 4 Drakes, Geddon, Mega, Cerb, Phoon and a few others just to take out 1 Dominix piloted by someone you say sucks at pvp? I took their bait and watched them try to bumrush me. They failed of course. They put out the call to anyone in Empire to sit and hang in Poinen because that way, they can easily blob any of us who show up. I did notice there was no smack talk last night. I wonder why?
fugazii Minmatar the undivided Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.01.18 19:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Nexa Necis Originally by: Karlen Velro we dec'ed ND not that long ago and they decided to get a merc alliance to dec us back (all 11 of us ) have fun with these guys but watch yourself, the minute u start getting kills in equal fights they revert to bait traps with epic blobs nearby (4 bc's, 2 bs and a BB for my one little CS ) I totally believe this. Even though they claim TRAPS sucks and we're a waste of their time, they spent a heckuva lot of time focusing on us this weekend. Their bait traps are total fail and so obvious. Last night I went out hunting and found their blob. Their uber tactic was to undock a Drake on the station and get me toENGAGE, while their BACKUP sat on the gate next door. They make no sense. I mean they say TRAPS suck, they say I suck, they say we're a waste of time. Yet they had 10 of em sitting waiting on camping me and trying to catch me in a weak ass bait tactic? I mean you really need 4 Drakes, Geddon, Mega, Cerb, Phoon and a few others just to take out 1 Dominix piloted by someone you say sucks at pvp? I took their bait and watched them try to bumrush me. They failed of course. They put out the call to anyone in Empire to sit and hang in Poinen because that way, they can easily blob any of us who show up. I did notice there was no smack talk last night. I wonder why? If you willingly dec someone who you know can blob you, you cannot complain once they do. It's like smoking then complaining once you get cancer. Buying T2 BPOs, send mail or convo!
Jufer Minmatar Dharma Industries NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:49:00 - [26] Seen as the diplo doesn't read CAOD and quite rightly so with the constant blow my own trumpet, whilst making myself look like an idiot, posts from random war dec corps. TRAPS have been well boring to fight to be fair. They fight around the Poinen area, a major mission hub and expect PvP they say. Utter bull**** to be fair they wanted another war dec where they could take out mission runners with ease, an easy fight not to PvP. When we decided to come fight we did and you took losses too, no suprise with Falcon fits such as this: http://killboard.nights-dawn.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8281 So you want a fight come to Tama you will get one, as thats where the majority of PvPers tend to roam around. The war decs you have recieved have nothing to do with Night's Dawn command if random members felt it necessary so be it. Right now we will happily play dock/undock games for as long as we please. We will blob you at will you war dec'd us, theres this nice window that can show you how many ppl an allaince has dont want to get blobbed try using some common sense and pick someone the same size. Tareek always trys to resolve problems in a diplomatic manor for a change a wts demand was reasonable so we met them. We have no problem fighting the war it makes the others not look as lonely on the list. Another little fish thinking they can make splashes in the pond, try looking at our killboard see where we have been and what we are up to instead of making the presumtion that 'WE ARE PWNING THEM!!!11one!!'. GF's and plz come again. :)
Roleplay Caldari Krieger Allianz NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2009.01.19 00:39:00 - [27] You guys are extremely boring to fight , your best pvp tactic is keeping within the footprint of the nearest station :( We got a nice even fight with you guys tonight and i hope to see more of that , hell i even lost a BS , but its a small price to pay for a fight to be honest. As for us blobbing , if you guys actually roamed in small groups i promise you that there will be small skirmishes aplenty to be found , cu in tama sometime as i cba to waste my playtime camping a station listening to nothing but smack from you guys in local as you play docking games
Nexa Necis Amarr The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.19 01:32:00 - [28] Good to see ND people responding but you failed to read my words. I never said we were owning you. I never said anything about the nature of your alliance. All I said was that your alliance diplos were claiming I lied and dishonored an agreement. The agreement was never made obviously. I pointed out your diplo stated that smack talk is not policy and he offered to have people apologize, yet every time I saw your "pvp" crowd all they did was talk trash right off the bat. I never once complained about them blobbing. I pointed out that when I find them one on one they stall for reinforcements and then smacktalk when I am then outnumbered 10 to 1. I pointed out the obvious bait and blob tactics. I saw you guys had a pretty square fight. Too bad I missed it. Though it was funny because your Domi pilot docked with me and didn't make a move until the rest of you arrived. We're averaging 1 person on each kill whereas you're averaging 3 people per kill. So we do plenty of solo hunting. Moreso than you guys. Not sure what you mean by small gang roaming, but all I see are people in Poinen sitting on stations or groups of 10+ roaming/camping. Not exactly small, but I guess it depends on your definition. As you said though, TRAPS are boring to fight, we suck, we cannot pvp against skilled people like yourselves, so there is nothing to worry about. Go on missioning in your CNR's and jaunt around with haulers filled with hundreds of millions in loot inside them for us to kill. I never claimed we win every fight, every war, and every encounter. I never claimed we don't get camped and outnumbered. It was your alliance you questioned our abilities and insulted our character. Keep harboring corps who can't fight their own battles. You don't see us running and hiding behind an alliance. The war will rage on for a while. Sit in Tama and Geminate while we plunder the carebears. Works for us. I could care less who we kill or what they're in. I took a moment to check out how badass your killboard was looking. It's more laughable than ours. For example, I looked at your last 50 kills. 12 pods, 19 haulers, 1 mining barge, 5 AF/Inty, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 recon, 3 frigs, 2 BS and 1 BC. WOW! Now that is pretty badass. 19 haulers and you're making fun of us for decing people who supposedly can't put up a decent fight? Our last 50 kills show 8 BS, 4 BC, 12 cruisers, 3 pods, 3 frigs, 3 AF/Inty, 12 haulers, 3 barges, 1 HIC, 1 Ibis, 1 destroyer. 14 of those 50 were your alliance. We are definitely putting in the effort. As you said though, TRAPS is a big waste of time. See you out there.
Nexa Necis Amarr The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.19 01:40:00 - [29] Rofl, I am getting a lot of emails about Night's Dawn. I got this one... 2009.01.18 16:43 Nights Dawn is a blue of ours that to be honest are complete and total noobs that are friends of my ceo. They hangout in Ihakana and w-3 in geminate. Keep em coming!
Shaloran Kalior Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.19 10:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Roleplay You guys are extremely boring to fight , your best pvp tactic is keeping within the footprint of the nearest station :( We got a nice even fight with you guys tonight and i hope to see more of that , hell i even lost a BS , but its a small price to pay for a fight to be honest. As for us blobbing , if you guys actually roamed in small groups i promise you that there will be small skirmishes aplenty to be found , cu in tama sometime as i cba to waste my playtime camping a station listening to nothing but smack from you guys in local as you play docking games I'll stop playing docking games if you do :p B1idz's station manager must have been getting dizzy the number of times that Drake undocked and redocked :) Post with your main!

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