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Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:12:00 - [1] All force recons of races known for turrets (hybrids, laser, projectile), have at least 3 turret bays, out of their 4 high slots.. the 4th is for the cloak. - pilgrim (3 tur, 0 msl) - arazu (3 tur, 1 msl) - rapier (3 tur, 1 msl) except this.. - falcon (2 tur, 2 msl) As a missile-specced char this is somewhat.. disgusting. That's why I would like to see 1 of those turret slots on the falcon to be swapped for a missile bay.
Zephyr Rengate Caldari Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:13:00 - [2] signed
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:15:00 - [3] Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. This thread needs more goat sodomy.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:17:00 - [4] Falcon needs some love tbh
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:17:00 - [5] to 'bring i inline' with other recons shouldnt it have 4 his; 3x turrets and 1 missle slot? Anyway, this FailTroll of a Falcon thread belongs in the ships and modules discussion forum.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Joe to 'bring i inline' with other recons shouldnt it have 4 his; 3x turrets and 1 missle slot? Yeah.. make them all equal. I don't need an ewar ship.. I need a missile boat with cloak. Originally by: Joe Anyway, this FailTroll of a Falcon thread belongs in the ships and modules discussion forum. Uhm.. I'm sure it will be moved if there's a need for it.. Forge '07 on Sale
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:21:00 - [7] You gotta be ****ing kidding me WHY WHY WHY would you combine a Falcon whine with a missile whine. The torrid reading on this execrable union is off the charts.
ghost st	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:28:00 - [8] Ill give you 4 missile launchers if the tds on my curse get to go out 150+km
Bohoba Caldari HolyKnights	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Dirk Magnum You gotta be ****ing kidding me WHY WHY WHY would you combine a Falcon whine with a missile whine. The torrid reading on this execrable union is off the charts. because the falcon is the weakest recon ship in the game thats why get a brain will ya ....................... 10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
ghost st	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Bohoba Originally by: Dirk Magnum You gotta be ****ing kidding me WHY WHY WHY would you combine a Falcon whine with a missile whine. The torrid reading on this execrable union is off the charts. because the falcon is the weakest recon ship in the game thats why get a brain will ya lol falcon is weak by itself, but its a force multiplier. If it is so weak why does everyone and thier mom have a falcon alt?
Bohoba Caldari HolyKnights	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:48:00 - [11] Originally by: ghost st Originally by: Bohoba Originally by: Dirk Magnum You gotta be ****ing kidding me WHY WHY WHY would you combine a Falcon whine with a missile whine. The torrid reading on this execrable union is off the charts. because the falcon is the weakest recon ship in the game thats why get a brain will ya lol falcon is weak by itself, but its a force multiplier. If it is so weak why does everyone and thier mom have a falcon alt? for a chance at a jamm :) its the only chance base weapon out there and people seem not to want to have to reduce there DPS to comp for ecm and they want it nerfed so they can keep there DPS even though the falcons has very little DPS compared to other reecon ships, and also has the worst tank other recons can tank falcon can only tank if it lose it's jammers :) Take the blinders off guys/gals/heshe's use the tools you have Nerf nanos, Nerf nanos I say :) ....................... 10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.01.18 04:48:00 - [12] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 18/01/2009 04:48:31 Originally by: Dirk Magnum You gotta be ****ing kidding me WHY WHY WHY would you combine a Falcon whine with a missile whine. The torrid reading on this execrable union is off the charts. Well atleast they didn't manage to slip a boost minmatar or eliminate macro miners whine in there. That, by my calculations, would have caused a blackhole to form which would most likely kill us all. ------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Lt Shard Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:00:00 - [13] Lachesis 3 missile hardpoints End thread
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:06:00 - [14] Buff Falcons tbh.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:08:00 - [15] PUT ECM IN EVERY SLOT INCLUDING HIGH AND LOW
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:11:00 - [16] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 18/01/2009 05:13:37 Originally by: Lt Shard Lachesis 3 missile hardpoints snip Thats a COMBAT Recon, for the blind... so no cov ops cloak for this one. I specifically asked for a FORCE recon with 3 missile bays, cause the rook has enough missile bays.. I don't even care for the race.. if you give the pilgrim 3 missile bays I'll just take this one and train the racial cruiser to 5 for amarr.. no problem. But I don't want to train the whole turret-weapon system, to use all 3 high slots of a force reacon for weapons. Try again.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:13:00 - [17] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 18/01/2009 05:13:51 Originally by: Tres Farmer .. if you give the pilgrim 3 missile bays .. Die. (In game of course)
Jesslyn Daggererux Gallente SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Tres Farmer But I don't want to train the whole turret-weapon system, to use all 3 high slots of a force reacon for weapons. Try again. hey, you just discovered what it must feel like to be minmatar.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Tres Farmer All force recons of races known for turrets (hybrids, laser, projectile), have at least 3 turret bays, out of their 4 high slots.. the 4th is for the cloak. - pilgrim (3 tur, 0 msl) - arazu (3 tur, 1 msl) - rapier (3 tur, 1 msl) except this.. - falcon (2 tur, 2 msl) As a missile-specced char this is somewhat.. disgusting. That's why I would like to see 1 of those turret slots on the falcon to be swapped for a missile bay. YES! The Arazu needs more missile bays!!!! (And a missile ROF bonus)
Jesslyn Daggererux Gallente SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Bohoba Originally by: ghost st Originally by: Bohoba Originally by: Dirk Magnum You gotta be ****ing kidding me WHY WHY WHY would you combine a Falcon whine with a missile whine. The torrid reading on this execrable union is off the charts. because the falcon is the weakest recon ship in the game thats why get a brain will ya lol falcon is weak by itself, but its a force multiplier. If it is so weak why does everyone and thier mom have a falcon alt? for a chance at a jamm :) its the only chance base weapon out there and people seem not to want to have to reduce there DPS to comp for ecm and they want it nerfed so they can keep there DPS even though the falcons has very little DPS compared to other reecon ships, and also has the worst tank other recons can tank falcon can only tank if it lose it's jammers :) Take the blinders off guys/gals/heshe's use the tools you have Nerf nanos, Nerf nanos I say :) hey, you posted here too crying about falcons. ill just copy/paste my reply to you from the other thread. eccm is also chance, fof's dont go for what you always want to hit, smartbombs...do i really have to say anything? and drones, like fof's, may not hit the target you want them to. also pretty worthless on a falcon 100 km away. plus they need to be out before being jammed. and they need to be on agressive. and they can be easily killed. oh and isnt EVERY turret chance based except missiles? missiles have a forumula, they will hit now almost every time since not many go faster than them anymore. and they will hit for a specific amount, based on speed. other weapons that require more than just the knowledge that something is in range, are greatly affected not just by speed but by transversal and range. and even then, they can hit good or bad, depending on luck. your argument of ecm being "the only chance based weapon in the game" has been disproven. your turn, sir.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2009.01.18 05:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Tres Farmer stuff YES! The Arazu needs more missile bays!!!! (And a missile ROF bonus) Hey.. an arazu would be fine by me also.. doesn't make much sense for the gallentean point of view though.. but who asks for that anyways :) The fun part about it all is anyways, that the falcon has no bonus for any non-ewar-weaponsystem at all.. cause of its T1 source.. The ship looks similar gimped weapon wise, the ferox looked all the time with its 5tur/5msl/7hslot layout. And how long did it take to get that one solved.. meh Forge '07 on Sale
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.18 06:03:00 - [22] Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Tres Farmer stuff YES! The Arazu needs more missile bays!!!! (And a missile ROF bonus) Hey.. an arazu would be fine by me also.. doesn't make much sense for the gallentean point of view though.. but who asks for that anyways :) The fun part about it all is anyways, that the falcon has no bonus for any non-ewar-weaponsystem at all.. cause of its T1 source.. The ship looks similar gimped weapon wise, the ferox looked all the time with its 5tur/5msl/7hslot layout. And how long did it take to get that one solved.. meh Precedent: Lach has missile bonus and launcher slots. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Death of Virtue is Recruiting
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.18 08:41:00 - [23] This thread can only end well. PS Bring back ghost training & make GTCs cost less ISK!
Gonada Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.18 09:05:00 - [24] yay, posting in a fail-whine topic. l2p or gtfo
Anile8er Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2009.01.18 09:07:00 - [25] Troll!!! And I suppose you should also be able to have a bonus that lets you hit targets with missiles form 150-200km? or have you not thought of that. Then you can troll about having to get too close to use your missiles..... I didn't read anything in this psot except the op and decided it was a silly post.....
Anile8er Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2009.01.18 09:09:00 - [26] PS if you emo rage quit can you contract your stuff to my holdings corp?
Mikal Drey Minmatar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.18 09:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Tres Farmer Edited by: Tres Farmer on 18/01/2009 05:57:46 All force recons of races known for turrets (hybrids, laser, projectile), have at least 3 turret bays, out of their 4 high slots.. the 4th is for the cloak. - pilgrim (3 tur, 0 msl) - arazu (3 tur, 1 msl) - rapier (3 tur, 1 msl) except this.. - falcon (2 tur, 2 msl) As a missile-specced char this is somewhat.. disgusting. That's why I would like to see 1 of those turret slots on the falcon to be swapped for a missile bay. The Falcon has 4x high slots Being a FORCE RECON as you desire then your high slot setup should be : 1) Covert Ops Cloak 2) Missile Launcher/Turret 3) Missile Launcher/Turret 4) Recon Probe Launcher As your flying the FORCE RECON class then your specific role is to be a covops/prober. Using your ECM Uberness as backup and to catch your targets so that the fleet can warp to you. IF and tbvfh its a big IF you wanted to use your recon class ship as a more combat orientated wessel. Then feel free to use a rook. The Rook has the same bonusses towards ECM so you have no loss of ECM Uberness. You will also have an added bonus to missiles. The Rook also has 5x highs and has 5x launcher slots. Is there any specific reason why you want the FORCE recons to have the missile slots ? Personally i feel that you have missed the whole point of the recon class vessels. For combat you should be in the combat and the recons are for the specific roles cyno/probe/sneaky sneaky
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.01.18 10:20:00 - [28] oh noes my caldari char can't specialize in more than shield/caldari ships/missiles !
Krystal Demishy	Posted - 2009.01.18 10:38:00 - [29] Are you serious?? But... wtf.. are people going mad?? Or are you f*ing joking?! The Falcon is way too much overpowered, i can't believe that you are really asking for a boost!
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H.	Posted - 2009.01.18 10:43:00 - [30] Originally by: ghost st Ill give you 4 missile launchers if the tds on my curse get to go out 150+km Curse is a Combat Recon, however, we can talk about range when the Falcon gets a dronebay, like every other Recon has, yes?

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