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Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2009.01.18 10:48:00 -
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090116-online-gamers-in-china-must-soon-register-with-real-names.html
this may be old news.. but great news to whomever doesnt know!!!
isk farmers are pooched. now ccp can start laying the smackdown!
just beware.. if your characters name is already Chow Yun Fat (or something of the like) your gonna be hassled alot :P
(disclaimer, this in no way meant to be offensive)
to summarize, all internet users in china must use their REAL NAME... honestly, thats a horrible thing for the government to do. i hope they fight back (without getting hurt that is) _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Navigator ([email protected]) |
Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.18 10:58:00 -
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Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Question, what are you going to do when it starts being Russian or Indian farmers?? (the next source of a large, fairly well-internet-connected workforce that will work for peanuts). |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Link article While this "real-name system" will not affect what players do once they are in the game
Sounds like they can still do whatever they want, incl. farming. It is meant to stop people from getting addicted, nothing to do with farmers in that article at all. |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Question, what are you going to do when it starts being Russian or Indian farmers?? (the next source of a large, fairly well-internet-connected workforce that will work for peanuts).
Do you realise that the cost of living in Moscow is higher than NY or Berlin ? People must stop with dumb preconceptions... |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit Sounds like they can still do whatever they want, incl. farming. It is meant to stop people from getting addicted, nothing to do with farmers in that article at all.
Oh come on! Now you're just making unreasonable demands that people should actually read the stuff they (fail to) link! |
Vincent Death
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Everybody loves a cruel, oppressive regime.
The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism. |
the Entity
testicular Fortitude Sherwood Forest
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:15:00 -
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nothing will change.
Originally by: Acama Asante so clearly this thread is my punishment but what was my crime I wonder
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Rear Infiltration
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Link article While this "real-name system" will not affect what players do once they are in the game
Sounds like they can still do whatever they want, incl. farming. It is meant to stop people from getting addicted, nothing to do with farmers in that article at all.
Im pretty sure though that if they see a guy online playing eve 23/7 they will think its an addiction >.>
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Gonzo Hadron
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:30:00 -
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You do realise that Chinese players can't get on our servers. I've still got no idea where this Chinese isk farmers legend has come from because they can't farm on Tranquility.
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Lui Kai
Logistics Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gonzo Hadron You do realise that Chinese players can't get on our servers. I've still got no idea where this Chinese isk farmers legend has come from because they can't farm on Tranquility.
While I agree the "Chinese isk farmer" racism is stupid, the above statement is actually wrong.
They can't easily play on TQ, but they can play here. There are many (normal, non-macroing, non-isk-seller) players that play on both Serenity and Tranquility, from China. ----------------
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woddel
Gallente Canis Industries Ltd D0GMA
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Do you realise that the cost of living in Moscow is higher than NY or Berlin ? People must stop with dumb preconceptions...
hmmm... as far as i know, russia is more than just moscow... :) as switzerland isn't only znrich bahnhofstasse either. or the usa downtown new york... :) ok, this is off-topic, but still worth mentioning. maybe. ;)
cheers, woddel --- creator and maintainer of eve commander - complete web based character information tool and ec agent finder |
Gonzo Hadron
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai
Originally by: Gonzo Hadron You do realise that Chinese players can't get on our servers. I've still got no idea where this Chinese isk farmers legend has come from because they can't farm on Tranquility.
While I agree the "Chinese isk farmer" racism is stupid, the above statement is actually wrong.
They can't easily play on TQ, but they can play here. There are many (normal, non-macroing, non-isk-seller) players that play on both Serenity and Tranquility, from China.
Have you got proof? As far as I'm aware that would be breaking the law in China and if they were caught there would be severe repercussions.
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evos
Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Question, what are you going to do when it starts being Russian or Indian farmers?? (the next source of a large, fairly well-internet-connected workforce that will work for peanuts).
I couldnt give a rats ass about the chinease or there rights, u think just because there down trodden then can ruin gaming experience for others? Because they lack the bollox to depose dictators we should sit back and allow them to farm ISK on EVE for abit of extra cash screwing our gaming economy up?
Same with the russians, i couldnt give a rats ass if the US nuked russia id still sit back and laugh
i hope they all get banned non stop to stop this ruining business they have going on, the chinease n russians dont give a **** about anyone but themselves. N your a fool to think otherwise [/url] |
Code Black
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: evos
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Question, what are you going to do when it starts being Russian or Indian farmers?? (the next source of a large, fairly well-internet-connected workforce that will work for peanuts).
I couldnt give a rats ass about the chinease or there rights, u think just because there down trodden then can ruin gaming experience for others? Because they lack the bollox to depose dictators we should sit back and allow them to farm ISK on EVE for abit of extra cash screwing our gaming economy up?
Same with the russians, i couldnt give a rats ass if the US nuked russia id still sit back and laugh
i hope they all get banned non stop to stop this ruining business they have going on, the chinease n russians dont give a **** about anyone but themselves. N your a fool to think otherwise
Racist attitudes like that ruin the game far more then isk farmers.
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evos
Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Code Black
Originally by: evos
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Question, what are you going to do when it starts being Russian or Indian farmers?? (the next source of a large, fairly well-internet-connected workforce that will work for peanuts).
I couldnt give a rats ass about the chinease or there rights, u think just because there down trodden then can ruin gaming experience for others? Because they lack the bollox to depose dictators we should sit back and allow them to farm ISK on EVE for abit of extra cash screwing our gaming economy up?
Same with the russians, i couldnt give a rats ass if the US nuked russia id still sit back and laugh
i hope they all get banned non stop to stop this ruining business they have going on, the chinease n russians dont give a **** about anyone but themselves. N your a fool to think otherwise
Racist attitudes like that ruin the game far more then isk farmers.
Racist? do you even understand the word? China - 78% of the worlds polution, Russia - huge nuclear arsenal but refeuse to abide by UN rules to safe guard it?
Me Racist? I think not, i depsise countrys who think its there god given right to do as they please with no regard for the rights of others
bite me [/url] |
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CCP Whisper
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gonzo Hadron You do realise that Chinese players can't get on our servers. I've still got no idea where this Chinese isk farmers legend has come from because they can't farm on Tranquility.
Uhm...I have no idea where this legend that we have blocked users from China from logging onto Tranquility came from. Because we haven't. As the experience of other companies has shown, doing so is a) ineffective because dedicated users who really want to log on to your server just end up using proxies and b) it is a PR nightmare of truly epic proportions. There is no block to Tranquility from China. There is no block to Tranquility from China. I know I'm repeating myself, but it was such an important point I felt it was worth mentioning twice.
What we do have however is a team of people who constantly try to come up with new ways to stop the spam and the industry that causes the spam. Sometimes the things they do work for months until the spammers find a way around them. Sometimes the spammers are able to change the way they operate almost immediately. It's a cat and mouse game with varying results. But one thing these people cannot and will not do is talk about the technical details of anti-spammer mechanics on a public forum. While the individuals who do the actual farming may have very little technical knowledge, the fact that selling in-game items is a multi-million dollar industry means that the companies who engage in illegal RMT can hire some very clever people of their own to figure out how to bypass blocks, heuristics, kapchas and other barriers to entry. We're going to give those folks a free handout.
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Code Black
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:47:00 -
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You are grouping all Russians and Chinese people under the same banner due to where they are from. That is racism. |
Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Death The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism.
I know it was part of your sig, but you sir are wrong. Just look at fascist Argentina or Pinochet's Chile. |
evos
Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Code Black You are grouping all Russians and Chinese people under the same banner due to where they are from. That is racism.
Then prove me wrong, seriously, because i guarentee you cant |
Gonzo Hadron
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Originally by: Gonzo Hadron You do realise that Chinese players can't get on our servers. I've still got no idea where this Chinese isk farmers legend has come from because they can't farm on Tranquility.
Uhm...I have no idea where this legend that we have blocked users from China from logging onto Tranquility came from. Because we haven't. As the experience of other companies has shown, doing so is a) ineffective because dedicated users who really want to log on to your server just end up using proxies and b) it is a PR nightmare of truly epic proportions. There is no block to Tranquility from China. There is no block to Tranquility from China. I know I'm repeating myself, but it was such an important point I felt it was worth mentioning twice.
What we do have however is a team of people who constantly try to come up with new ways to stop the spam and the industry that causes the spam. Sometimes the things they do work for months until the spammers find a way around them. Sometimes the spammers are able to change the way they operate almost immediately. It's a cat and mouse game with varying results. But one thing these people cannot and will not do is talk about the technical details of anti-spammer mechanics on a public forum. While the individuals who do the actual farming may have very little technical knowledge, the fact that selling in-game items is a multi-million dollar industry means that the companies who engage in illegal RMT can hire some very clever people of their own to figure out how to bypass blocks, heuristics, kapchas and other barriers to entry. We're not going to give those folks a free handout.
Well that's a bitter sweet end to my assumptions. I don't mind admitting I am wrong when there is proof, but that's also changed my perception of the game. |
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
You mean a government that cares about its people and protects them against negative impacts on their health, such as excessive online-gaming, which is meant to be reduced by this measure ?
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Roku Kotaki
Kotaki Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: evos A fellow American spewing ****
People like you is the reasons the rest of us civilized Americans are looked down upon by other countries. You sir, have no idea what the **** you are talking about and the epitomy of US arrogance.
LA, NY, and any other big city in the USA, puts out tremendous amounts of pollution.
Our government and the military seems to stick it's nose in everybody else's business, when we have enough problems right here to worry about. Who decided that we are to be the world's police. We should only be getting involved in anything if it involves us. Otherwise, we should stay the **** out of it. |
Code Black
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: evos
Originally by: Code Black You are grouping all Russians and Chinese people under the same banner due to where they are from. That is racism.
Then prove me wrong, seriously, because i guarentee you cant
An inability to prove someones belief system as wrong doesn't mean you aren't racist as your beliefs clearly are. You sir should look at a dictionary, not I. |
evos
Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Roku Kotaki
Originally by: evos A fellow American spewing ****
People like you is the reasons the rest of us civilized Americans are looked down upon by other countries. You sir, have no idea what the **** you are talking about and the epitomy of US arrogance.
LA, NY, and any other big city in the USA, puts out tremendous amounts of pollution.
Our government and the military seems to stick it's nose in everybody else's business, when we have enough problems right here to worry about. Who decided that we are to be the world's police. We should only be getting involved in anything if it involves us. Otherwise, we should stay the **** out of it.
Um, im not american? Im from the UK, so that pretty much ****ess on your argument does it not? [/url] |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/01/2009 11:59:33
Racists makes me chuckle because they are so stupid.
Kind of appreciate the entertainment every time one sticks his head out though.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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eff one
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: evos
Originally by: Code Black
Originally by: evos
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Yeah, because the Chinese government limiting their peoples' civil rights and destroying what little privacy they have left is certainly a reason to throw a celebration.
Question, what are you going to do when it starts being Russian or Indian farmers?? (the next source of a large, fairly well-internet-connected workforce that will work for peanuts).
I couldnt give a rats ass about the chinease or there rights, u think just because there down trodden then can ruin gaming experience for others? Because they lack the bollox to depose dictators we should sit back and allow them to farm ISK on EVE for abit of extra cash screwing our gaming economy up?
Same with the russians, i couldnt give a rats ass if the US nuked russia id still sit back and laugh
i hope they all get banned non stop to stop this ruining business they have going on, the chinease n russians dont give a **** about anyone but themselves. N your a fool to think otherwise
Racist attitudes like that ruin the game far more then isk farmers.
Racist? do you even understand the word? China - 78% of the worlds polution, Russia - huge nuclear arsenal but refeuse to abide by UN rules to safe guard it?
Me Racist? I think not, i depsise countrys who think its there god given right to do as they please with no regard for the rights of others
bite me
If you are American, which i have a sneaky suspicion that you are, i have one word for you, just one word.
HYPOCRISY!!
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2009.01.18 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: evos
Same with the russians, i couldnt give a rats ass if the US nuked russia id still sit back and laugh
I doubt you would. Since Russia still have about 80% more nukes than US that would end up in the end of world and the last thing anyone would do would be to laugh.
I lived in several places around the word with people from a lot of places, including russian and chineese. And you know what I never found someone as arrogant and unpleasant as you on any of those places. In fact The people from easter as far as all experiences I had are far far more inclined to help other and car with others than here in west. They never spoke badly of any other country on all the years i lived in contact with them. Maybe you should learn a bit with them. You cannot hope to get respect until you start respecting others. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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Code Black
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Posted - 2009.01.18 12:01:00 -
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Unfortunately racism is universal, we have them here in the UK too. They're pitied here as well as in the US and their views cause embarrassment to 99% of the population.
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evos
Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.18 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: evos
Same with the russians, i couldnt give a rats ass if the US nuked russia id still sit back and laugh
I doubt you would. Since Russia still have about 80% more nukes than US that would end up in the end of world and the last thing anyone would do would be to laugh.
I lived in several places around the word with people from a lot of places, including russian and chineese. And you know what I never found someone as arrogant and unpleasant as you on any of those places. In fact The people from easter as far as all experiences I had are far far more inclined to help other and car with others than here in west. They never spoke badly of any other country on all the years i lived in contact with them. Maybe you should learn a bit with them. You cannot hope to get respect until you start respecting others.
Bull****, pure bull****, respect is earned, not given freely, name one thing either country has done for us? or has helped in anyway? Russia, China, Korea, Germany, and yes i can hold a country repsonsible for what its ancestors have done in the past.
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.18 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Pompous on 18/01/2009 12:04:55
Originally by: evos Russia - huge nuclear arsenal but refeuse to abide by UN rules to safe guard it?
Err...and what's the one country in the world the refuses to admit UN weapons inspectors to ensure compliance with dismantling of their chemical weapons stockpiles?
That's right...
The United States.
Edit: this thread is obviously getting out of hand, for all to see.
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