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Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 15:32:00 - [1] You think everything is cool. Hehehehehe Quote: oveur > Prevengting docking on bad standing vs. owner: Yes, no eta oveur > Aggression preventing docking: Not been discussed, I'll take it up in gamedesign Martinus Crimson > cool thanks Martinus Crimson > . oveur > extended Thats cruicial in 0.0! Quote:* kieron > Toma's Question, then to Draco. kieron > wrong corporation standings to NPC corporations the calculation of this standings is wrong. it is an average of all pilots that have a standing and pilots that have no standing are not counted. for example OE has a superb standing of 9.48 to Viziam, cause only one single pilot (and noone else) done missions for that corp. on the other hand we have 4 pilots with a stadning between 9 and 7 to another NPC corp, but there are also some pilots that have done only a few missions. the result is a bad standing of 4.8. that is nonsens, cause you become penalised for making missions. pilots that have done only a few missions ruin your standings, but when more people work for a NPC corporation the standing should grow not fall. can you correct this calculation and till when? oveur > If it is done like that, it will get corrected. It's like you say, nonsense :) oveur > . The game is an agents dream! We will get paid to do missions. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 15:32:00 - [2] You think everything is cool. Hehehehehe Quote: oveur > Prevengting docking on bad standing vs. owner: Yes, no eta oveur > Aggression preventing docking: Not been discussed, I'll take it up in gamedesign Martinus Crimson > cool thanks Martinus Crimson > . oveur > extended Thats cruicial in 0.0! Quote:* kieron > Toma's Question, then to Draco. kieron > wrong corporation standings to NPC corporations the calculation of this standings is wrong. it is an average of all pilots that have a standing and pilots that have no standing are not counted. for example OE has a superb standing of 9.48 to Viziam, cause only one single pilot (and noone else) done missions for that corp. on the other hand we have 4 pilots with a stadning between 9 and 7 to another NPC corp, but there are also some pilots that have done only a few missions. the result is a bad standing of 4.8. that is nonsens, cause you become penalised for making missions. pilots that have done only a few missions ruin your standings, but when more people work for a NPC corporation the standing should grow not fall. can you correct this calculation and till when? oveur > If it is done like that, it will get corrected. It's like you say, nonsense :) oveur > . The game is an agents dream! We will get paid to do missions. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Valentine Keen	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:00:00 - [3] Faction stations are important to 0.0 currently yes, but with player owned structures coming and the already used player controlled stations, they shouldn't be essential in future. After all, with Shiva, corps can always set up a staging outpost as somewhere to repair and stock up on ammo.
Valentine Keen	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:00:00 - [4] Faction stations are important to 0.0 currently yes, but with player owned structures coming and the already used player controlled stations, they shouldn't be essential in future. After all, with Shiva, corps can always set up a staging outpost as somewhere to repair and stock up on ammo.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:33:00 - [5] The key is that players will not only be worried who is in "thier" space but if the structure is safe! Remember if you dont have a place to build you ships or get a clone where are you then! -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:33:00 - [6] The key is that players will not only be worried who is in "thier" space but if the structure is safe! Remember if you dont have a place to build you ships or get a clone where are you then! -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:37:00 - [7] But I wonder wether pos will be as efficient as NPC stations in refining etc. Point is, it really sucks that the number of NPC stations an 0.0 guy can actually get to dock at will be reduced to nearly zero for his own chosen area. Of course there are for example serpentis stations in arch angel country, but whomever has neg standing to angels will surely have the same towards serpentis. And I do wonder wether this will be yet another thing forcing everyone into missions... I havent done a mission ever, in more then a year. I don't fancy starting them now. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:37:00 - [8] But I wonder wether pos will be as efficient as NPC stations in refining etc. Point is, it really sucks that the number of NPC stations an 0.0 guy can actually get to dock at will be reduced to nearly zero for his own chosen area. Of course there are for example serpentis stations in arch angel country, but whomever has neg standing to angels will surely have the same towards serpentis. And I do wonder wether this will be yet another thing forcing everyone into missions... I havent done a mission ever, in more then a year. I don't fancy starting them now. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Jonny Damordred	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Rod Blaine Point is, it really sucks that the number of NPC stations an 0.0 guy can actually get to dock at will be reduced to nearly zero for his own chosen area. Of course there are for example serpentis stations in arch angel country, but whomever has neg standing to angels will surely have the same towards serpentis. And I do wonder wether this will be yet another thing forcing everyone into missions... Its a good idea, imo. There is no reason why you should you be able to gank a bunch of Serpentis ships and then dock at a Serpentis station to offload the loot you collected off of them. Cheers, Jonny D. ----- Jonny Damordred: Political attachÚ of the Drunken Horde.
Jonny Damordred	Posted - 2004.07.28 16:46:00 - [10] Originally by: Rod Blaine Point is, it really sucks that the number of NPC stations an 0.0 guy can actually get to dock at will be reduced to nearly zero for his own chosen area. Of course there are for example serpentis stations in arch angel country, but whomever has neg standing to angels will surely have the same towards serpentis. And I do wonder wether this will be yet another thing forcing everyone into missions... Its a good idea, imo. There is no reason why you should you be able to gank a bunch of Serpentis ships and then dock at a Serpentis station to offload the loot you collected off of them. Cheers, Jonny D. ----- Jonny Damordred: Political attachÚ of the Drunken Horde.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:27:00 - [11] Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:27:00 - [12] Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Synex	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Maya Rkell Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. Strangely enough - i agree with this. The downside to mining safely in Serpentis space (need a +9.0 standing with them) would be, you can't enter any space of their enemies (IE All of Empire space etc.)
Synex	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Maya Rkell Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. Strangely enough - i agree with this. The downside to mining safely in Serpentis space (need a +9.0 standing with them) would be, you can't enter any space of their enemies (IE All of Empire space etc.)
Jonny Damordred	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:37:00 - [15] Originally by: Synex Originally by: Maya Rkell Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. Strangely enough - i agree with this. The downside to mining safely in Serpentis space (need a +9.0 standing with them) would be, you can't enter any space of their enemies (IE All of Empire space etc.) That is fair too. Jonny D. ----- Jonny Damordred: Political attachÚ of the Drunken Horde.
Jonny Damordred	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Synex Originally by: Maya Rkell Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. Strangely enough - i agree with this. The downside to mining safely in Serpentis space (need a +9.0 standing with them) would be, you can't enter any space of their enemies (IE All of Empire space etc.) That is fair too. Jonny D. ----- Jonny Damordred: Political attachÚ of the Drunken Horde.
Kretin Arnon	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:39:00 - [17] Edited by: Kretin Arnon on 28/07/2004 17:43:06 I used to think that too. (Hell I got nearly 10.0 in standing with the raiders). But why should they allow you to mine in their systems if the ore isn't in any way going to contribute to their cause but's only for your pockets? In RP term (and game play) you can never be one of the NPC corps, you can only be a supporter. Actually they should decrease your standing every time they discovered you trying to steal ore from under their noses. EDIT: I forgot to mention, even when I was a part of the True Power corporation my corporation "buddies" still took shots at me if I met them.
Kretin Arnon	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:39:00 - [18] Edited by: Kretin Arnon on 28/07/2004 17:43:06 I used to think that too. (Hell I got nearly 10.0 in standing with the raiders). But why should they allow you to mine in their systems if the ore isn't in any way going to contribute to their cause but's only for your pockets? In RP term (and game play) you can never be one of the NPC corps, you can only be a supporter. Actually they should decrease your standing every time they discovered you trying to steal ore from under their noses. EDIT: I forgot to mention, even when I was a part of the True Power corporation my corporation "buddies" still took shots at me if I met them.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:40:00 - [19] Maya, The guys that run the station might like you but the npc rats still hate you for stealing thier ore. Once you start killing those that are trying to supply the station the station gets upset with you. Soo as long as you dont kill npc rats and work for the station you are ok. Those npc pirates like to be really capitalist. They are all out for themselves and competing for the same resources. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 17:40:00 - [20] Maya, The guys that run the station might like you but the npc rats still hate you for stealing thier ore. Once you start killing those that are trying to supply the station the station gets upset with you. Soo as long as you dont kill npc rats and work for the station you are ok. Those npc pirates like to be really capitalist. They are all out for themselves and competing for the same resources. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.28 18:11:00 - [21] Look, it's fine and dandy al;l rp wise, but in the end it means doing missions if you want to dock, no other way to get better standings... And that's where it goes wrong _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.28 18:11:00 - [22] Look, it's fine and dandy al;l rp wise, but in the end it means doing missions if you want to dock, no other way to get better standings... And that's where it goes wrong _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Plasmatique	Posted - 2004.07.28 18:21:00 - [23] The door should swing both ways then. You have a lousy standing with a certain empire based corp, you shouldn't be allowed to dock in their stations either. ..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
Plasmatique	Posted - 2004.07.28 18:21:00 - [24] The door should swing both ways then. You have a lousy standing with a certain empire based corp, you shouldn't be allowed to dock in their stations either. ..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.07.28 18:34:00 - [25] Originally by: Synex Originally by: Maya Rkell Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. Strangely enough - i agree with this. The downside to mining safely in Serpentis space (need a +9.0 standing with them) would be, you can't enter any space of their enemies (IE All of Empire space etc.) Actually, if you do missions for both AND have a good standing with both then you should be able to enter Empire space. Of course, having a bad standing with say Concord should prevent you from using their stations. Or if you have a bad standing with the Gallente you should not be able to enter their space without getting ganked by the navy. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.07.28 18:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Synex Originally by: Maya Rkell Then we should be able to get good faction with Serpentis and have them buzz happily arround NOT attacking us in belts while we mine. Can't have it both ways. Strangely enough - i agree with this. The downside to mining safely in Serpentis space (need a +9.0 standing with them) would be, you can't enter any space of their enemies (IE All of Empire space etc.) Actually, if you do missions for both AND have a good standing with both then you should be able to enter Empire space. Of course, having a bad standing with say Concord should prevent you from using their stations. Or if you have a bad standing with the Gallente you should not be able to enter their space without getting ganked by the navy. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 19:04:00 - [27] Security standings are different than Faction standings. Being a bad iss does not allow you to fly thru safe 0.1-1.0 space you have done crimes to empire community. Though if you think it over every standing should reflect on who you do kill. You also have to change clones to be a Skill point retention percentage. Highest retention would be 95% Value of clone prices are attributed to your total sp. Soo a Clone of 95% would be base on your SP at the time of purchase. Soo the idea is to be renew your clone often. Security changes for PVP: PVP player A is +1.56 security standing PVP player B is -7.50 Security standing PVP player C is -3.50 Security standing PVP player D is +5.86 Security standing If A pods B then A get his secruity standing up by a precentage of player B. If B pods A the B gets his security standing down by a percentage of player A. If C pods B or B pods C there standings increase up by a percentage based on security. IF A pods D or D pods A the there standings decrease by a percentage based on security. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.07.28 19:04:00 - [28] Security standings are different than Faction standings. Being a bad iss does not allow you to fly thru safe 0.1-1.0 space you have done crimes to empire community. Though if you think it over every standing should reflect on who you do kill. You also have to change clones to be a Skill point retention percentage. Highest retention would be 95% Value of clone prices are attributed to your total sp. Soo a Clone of 95% would be base on your SP at the time of purchase. Soo the idea is to be renew your clone often. Security changes for PVP: PVP player A is +1.56 security standing PVP player B is -7.50 Security standing PVP player C is -3.50 Security standing PVP player D is +5.86 Security standing If A pods B then A get his secruity standing up by a precentage of player B. If B pods A the B gets his security standing down by a percentage of player A. If C pods B or B pods C there standings increase up by a percentage based on security. IF A pods D or D pods A the there standings decrease by a percentage based on security. -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Zandra Sunhillow	Posted - 2004.07.28 19:57:00 - [29] This might make sense from a RP perspective but not a gameplay one. If you can't hunt the rats and then dock in the same region it will basically mean one less thing to do in 0.0-space. ----------------------------
Zandra Sunhillow	Posted - 2004.07.28 19:57:00 - [30] This might make sense from a RP perspective but not a gameplay one. If you can't hunt the rats and then dock in the same region it will basically mean one less thing to do in 0.0-space. ----------------------------

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