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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.01.22 15:27:00 -
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I agree, most people live their lives "in the spirit of the law", but surely you can see how silly it is to act all surprised and indignant if you get caught red-handed breaking a law/rule? |
Sturdy Girl
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Posted - 2009.01.22 16:30:00 -
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I do see your point. And I agree to some extent... one shouldn't really complain if one is caught knowingly breaking rules and subjected to an appropriate punishment. In the case of speeding, for a start its just common sense not to wind up the copper, who may well decide to be a bastard if you do.
However, I'm exceedingly liberal, so where possible I'm in favour of abolishing rules.
Some rules (like 'don't murder people') are obviously a good idea... situations where such a rule should be waived are generally few and far between.
Other rules (like 'don't drive above a certain speed') are not obviously a good idea... sure they work to some extent, but very often this is a needless restriction. In these cases, whilst I think people shouldn't be surprised that they get caught, I equally think that people should be allowed to stand up and say "No! Our freedom is restricted enough already. This must change!".
But then, this I guess I'm taking this a bit far... after all, it was only a ban to the test server of a mmo! |
Hooded Person
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.22 17:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Sturdy Girl
I do see your point. And I agree to some extent... one shouldn't really complain if one is caught knowingly breaking rules and subjected to an appropriate punishment. In the case of speeding, for a start its just common sense not to wind up the copper, who may well decide to be a bastard if you do.
However, I'm exceedingly liberal, so where possible I'm in favour of abolishing rules.
Some rules (like 'don't murder people') are obviously a good idea... situations where such a rule should be waived are generally few and far between.
Other rules (like 'don't drive above a certain speed') are not obviously a good idea... sure they work to some extent, but very often this is a needless restriction. In these cases, whilst I think people shouldn't be surprised that they get caught, I equally think that people should be allowed to stand up and say "No! Our freedom is restricted enough already. This must change!".
But then, this I guess I'm taking this a bit far... after all, it was only a ban to the test server of a mmo!
This guy (or girl) has hit the nail on the head.
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Kushan
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.01.22 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sturdy Girl
I do see your point. And I agree to some extent... one shouldn't really complain if one is caught knowingly breaking rules and subjected to an appropriate punishment. In the case of speeding, for a start its just common sense not to wind up the copper, who may well decide to be a bastard if you do.
However, I'm exceedingly liberal, so where possible I'm in favour of abolishing rules.
Some rules (like 'don't murder people') are obviously a good idea... situations where such a rule should be waived are generally few and far between.
Other rules (like 'don't drive above a certain speed') are not obviously a good idea... sure they work to some extent, but very often this is a needless restriction. In these cases, whilst I think people shouldn't be surprised that they get caught, I equally think that people should be allowed to stand up and say "No! Our freedom is restricted enough already. This must change!".
But then, this I guess I'm taking this a bit far... after all, it was only a ban to the test server of a mmo!
The problem is when you want to do things that affect other people. Want to do drugs? Fine, I don't care. Want to drive while under the influence of god-knows-what? I have a problem. I could care less if you want to screw yourself up, but I don't like it when it puts me (or any other non-consenting person) at risk. The same applies for speed laws imo. Braking distance increases dramatically at higher speeds, and any accident that occurs at the velocity, regardless of who is at fault, has a much higher chance of being fatal.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.22 19:50:00 -
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No ammount of popcorn shall ever quench my fingerfood craving while reading this thread...
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy
Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.01.22 19:58:00 -
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Ok then, CCP have spoken and by what he said, nothing will be changed. SO the 4 players will still be banned until their 2 weeks ban is over.
Then it's time to say topic closed and yeah, just remember to follow the rules on sisi . |
Kakuremichi
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Posted - 2009.01.22 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion
The amount of terrible posting in this thread is depressing. As a 411, this is what Singularity is:
Singularity is a test server provided as an extra service by CCP. It is not considered part of the service guaranteed by your $15 a month, but you need to be subscribed to participate in it.
Singularity is intended as a bug testing server, running newer builds than Tranquility so that players can find bugs and report them. Part of that obviously requires play testing, which is why accommodations have been made in FD-MLJ to permit easier testing, such as combat zone beacons, and beacons which repeatedly outline the rules of using the test server.
The rules are needed to make sure people can do what they set out to do, and to make sure people do not mess it up. SINGULARITY IS NOT A FREE FOR ALL PVP ZONE WHERE YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. CCP is also under no obligation to allow you to use the test server, and they explicitly state in the rules thread that you are to follow the rules, lest you be banned by CCP in the most harsh and uncaring manner possible.
Providing a test server is extra work for THEM, and they do it because the developers of EVE Online are a friendly and helpful bunch of people who love their game and love to help people enjoy the game. You can even talk to a bunch of them if you know where to look.
However, the developers do not appreciate it when you go around messing things up because you were either too lazy or too inconsiderate to read and heed the rules they provided. The rules are there to maximize the amount of things which can be accomplished and tested. The rules are NOT meant to be broken.
NightmareX is right in saying that the rules should be followed, and he is equally right to report offenders so that CCP can ban them. If you can't appreciate it or bother to take heed of the warnings CCP provides, you have no right to complain when CCP removes your access to the test server.
This. There are designated areas for letting loose on someone, they are designated for a reason  |
Waxau
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.23 20:52:00 -
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Meh - Nightmare did the right thing as far as i can see. Folks were breaking the rules. His own right to petition them. I would. I have. And i will do likewise again. It ruins others enjoyment, and doesnt help in any way to that of what SiSi is for...TESTING.
You shot back, regardless of circumstances. You could have petitioned them yourself, but no. You're smacking the guy who saved you the trouble. Oh, and whats that? He petitioned you too? Correct. As you were doing the exact same thing they were. Fighting outside stations.
Is it REALLY that hard? |
NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy
Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.01.24 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 24/01/2009 14:36:49
LOL, i just have to post this.
I just got an eve-mail from Kei where he said he just got unbanned from sisi already.
The 2 weeks ban is over 29 January, so i just want to know if he really got unbanned?.
When a dev ban someone for breaking rules on sisi and then gives them a 2 weeks ban, then they just don't unban a rule breaker only because he wanted to get unbanned before the ban timer is over.
Can a dev confirm or deny this?.
Personally i think he's joking.
Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike' |
Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.24 15:54:00 -
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Very elaborate troll on both sides. After reading it all my face suffers from severe muscle soreness due to laughing my ass off. 8.5/10 |
BiggestT
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.25 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 24/01/2009 14:54:18
Hmmm, i just got an eve-mail from Kei where he said he just got unbanned from sisi already.
The 2 weeks ban is over 29 January, so i just want to know if he really got unbanned now?.
When a dev ban someone for breaking rules on sisi and then gives them a 2 weeks ban, then they just don't unban a rule breaker only because he wanted to get unbanned before the ban timer is over.
Can a dev confirm or deny this?.
Personally i think he's joking.
LIE! (The cake is too..) |
Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau
Is it REALLY that hard?
Well you know, rules on test server are for commoners, they dont apply for hardcore pvpers... Oh wait 
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