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Lumy
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 17:11:00 -
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 Originally by: evos
Originally by: Akita T
extreme trolling for attention
It is people like you who should not be allowed to play this game.
If you had half a brain cell ud understand that my figures are just random, they cna be put up or down depending on what the market system is, oh and the economy of a country pretty much si the finiacial system, as in one part of it, and if you had thought of this before trolling i wouldnt be making you look rather stupid right now would i?
Im trying to add a new dimension to this game that CCP will find viable and id like help from the player base, not to be torn a new one by a bitter old man with no life.
Either post ur ideas or arguments in a CIVIL fashion or dont, simple as that
Akita shouldn't play because... he finds your idea stupid? Because he explains why is your idea stupid? What you call "extreme trolling for attention" is imho very reasonable post.
If you would have half a brain cell (ad hominem attacks FTW), you would come up with some reasonable numbers. Even 1/4 of your "example" interest are ridiculous, as he explained. Not mentioning any kind of generating ISK out of vacuum is bad.
As for "adding new dimension to this game", EVERYONE has right to express his opinion, even tear it apart if he thinks it's bad idea. Especialy if he has valid arguments to support his claims.
Finally, please don't talk about "CIVIL fashion". In your last post I couldn't find single argument that would matter. Instead it's filled with poor ad hominem attacks. Please spare us of those. |
B1FF
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Posted - 2009.01.21 17:19:00 -
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Wow. This idea fails basic economics and game design! It's a twofer!
Giving everyone free money means everyone has more money to spend. This increases demand on all goods across the board since you can afford what you couldn't before. Thus the price of goods rises. So you have more money but it doesn't matter because prices also went up. This is called inflation.
Also how does giving the isk sellers more isk help stop them from selling isk? |
Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.01.21 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: evos
I think maybe a set amount per week per million would be a good idea. Lets say $200,000 ISK per week Per million you have holding in the bank gained in interest
you seriously advocate 20% per week interest on a deposit 
your word for the day is "inflation".
you may also want to crack open an introductory economics text or two so you can begin to understand just how bad an idea this is. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.21 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 21/01/2009 18:36:01
Originally by: evos
If you had half a brain cell ud understand that my figures are just random
And I have shown you that even if you reduce the deposit limit to 1/2 and the interest rate to 1/4 the results are still ridiculous.
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the economy of a country pretty much si the finiacial system
Yes, I am sure every banker would love to hear how you called him a factory manager and vice-versa.
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Im trying to add a new dimension to this game
An extremely unwanted dimension
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that CCP will find viable
They already stated in the past this is a highly UNDESIRABLE idea
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and id like help from the player base
Make it too small, new players have absolutely no benefit from it. For instance, getting a slightly better ship or slightly better hardware will have an immediate huge benefit, no point in any newbie using the "banking" system.
Make it too big, and the problem described in my previous post becomes reality.
The problem is that the "too small" part is actually bigger than "too big", so it can't possibly work.
You know what, if you said "just give every character 50k ISK per day" it would have made a lot more sense.
But even that would be a bit too much.
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not to be torn a new one by a bitter old man with no life
I tore your IDEA a new one. And for good reason.
If you want it to take that personally, your problem.
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Either post ur ideas or arguments in a CIVIL fashion or dont, simple as that
Get used to it. This is EVE. This is how it works.
No mercy for mistakes or half-baked plans. By design.
And speaking of non-civil arguments, I could have said you must be a moron to even post that because a 14-year old that's still in his trial period could see the flaws, that you should go back to hello kitty online instead of trying EVE, that your tears are delicious and you should cry more and so on and so forth... now, THAT would have not been a civil fashion.
But I didn't do that, now did I ? Can you explain what exactly was so uncivil about my previous post ?
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Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |
Hegbard
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Posted - 2009.01.21 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: evos
The idea is to encourage people to save money and place it in this bank and to earn interest on said money.
And where would this interest come from? Right. From thin air. So you're simply suggesting that CCP print even more money and give it away for free.
Because printing money has worked in the past to solve financial problems. |
Heilath
Gallente
Whya Corp.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: evos
Within the real world an economy is based on paying wages, cost vs profit, loss vs gain and banks paying interest in large sums of money. Our economy ingame is one of the best i have seen in an MMO, WOW comes a close second but EVE's is much better. Id like to propose an idea
I underlined the part that made me snort cola out of my nose.
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People call me apathetic, but I really don't care. |
Heyte
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:45:00 -
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Also, think... if everyone had more isk then isksellers would simply offer more isk for the same prices. It would simply rise from there.
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Kuar Z'thain
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:57:00 -
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Obvious troll is successful. 
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.01.22 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
Obvious troll is successful.
The scary thing is that I don't think it is a troll. I think the problem is simply not thinking the solution through and a fundamental lack of economic knowledge.
Labeling the OP as troll gives them more credit than I think they deserve. |
Blastil
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Posted - 2009.01.22 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: evos
An EVE Bank run by Concord, Naming Such *Concord Secuirty Central New Eden Bank*.
CSCNEB
Your name does not make a vaguely sex related corp ticker, and therefore is fail. Your idea is no longer valid. It is also not catchy either. Double fail.
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Su mina
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Posted - 2009.01.22 04:32:00 -
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sorry if i missed something but this would look more like a tool for isk sellers than something to combat them. if implemented every macro account could dump a portion of their revenue into these accounts and get even more isk for the same effort.
my speculation about isk buying is not that it is driven by lack of isk making potential, but by immediacy. stupid amounts of isk are already attainable through very safe means in game, however, it does take some time and minor fiscal discipline. your "bank" idea would only increase the rate of accumulation but still could not satisfy a person that had 1mil in their wallet and wanted that navy apoc right now.
if you wanted to implement a interesting and potentially game breaking mechanism i would more rather see sovereign entities (npc and player) to be able to issue their own currencies and allow their own central banks to implement currency policy. i am sure the result would be interesting....interesting in the way that a train derailing off the top of a mountain is interesting. |
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