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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.29 13:40:00 -
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Meridius is correct - later tech levels of crystals will introduce explosive/kinetic elements of damage.
How they're gonna explain that one is a bloody mystery though.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.29 13:40:00 -
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Meridius is correct - later tech levels of crystals will introduce explosive/kinetic elements of damage.
How they're gonna explain that one is a bloody mystery though.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Elfman
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Posted - 2004.07.29 13:47:00 -
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With tech 2 ammo and crystals all 3 guns types will be able to deal all 4 dam types.
But notice the side effects of using these ammo e.g reduced ROF etc.
One of the most damaging crystals increase your ships sensor size so enemies will be able to lock you quicker and hit you easier :)
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Elfman
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Posted - 2004.07.29 13:47:00 -
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With tech 2 ammo and crystals all 3 guns types will be able to deal all 4 dam types.
But notice the side effects of using these ammo e.g reduced ROF etc.
One of the most damaging crystals increase your ships sensor size so enemies will be able to lock you quicker and hit you easier :)
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:03:00 -
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Rats. Tech II looks to seriously **** things up.
Variety is the spice of life.
My vote is against kinetic or explosive tech II crystals, nevermind tech I crystals.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:03:00 -
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Rats. Tech II looks to seriously **** things up.
Variety is the spice of life.
My vote is against kinetic or explosive tech II crystals, nevermind tech I crystals.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:27:00 -
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 Originally by: COUGAR ONE
You have to give Laser Crystals the ability to do more damage types than Em and Thermal.
Why? They have the benefit of not needing cargo hold for ammunition, that is good enough.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: COUGAR ONE
You have to give Laser Crystals the ability to do more damage types than Em and Thermal.
Why? They have the benefit of not needing cargo hold for ammunition, that is good enough.
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Fatal Attraction
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:39:00 -
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I'm Amarr, i only fly Amarrian Ships and i only use Lasers but that idea is just  ...
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Fatal Attraction
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:39:00 -
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I'm Amarr, i only fly Amarrian Ships and i only use Lasers but that idea is just ...
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Akelig
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: COUGAR ONE on 29/07/2004 10:39:29
TomB buddy you have been doing some great changes in EVE keep up the good work!
You have to give Laser Crystals the ability to do more damage types than Em and Thermal. Every other race can do all different types of damage. Why is that Amarr can do only 2 types.
Come on Big TomB hook us up, Let Amar be equal with the other Races and can choose which types of damage it can do.
Are you insane? the ammar are overpowered at this moment, fix the tempest
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Akelig
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: COUGAR ONE on 29/07/2004 10:39:29
TomB buddy you have been doing some great changes in EVE keep up the good work!
You have to give Laser Crystals the ability to do more damage types than Em and Thermal. Every other race can do all different types of damage. Why is that Amarr can do only 2 types.
Come on Big TomB hook us up, Let Amar be equal with the other Races and can choose which types of damage it can do.
Are you insane? the ammar are overpowered at this moment, fix the tempest
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Saibin Gias
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Posted - 2004.07.29 15:30:00 -
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you're asking for particle weapons my friend.
null Cookware for sale. Non-stick Teflon.
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Saibin Gias
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Posted - 2004.07.29 15:30:00 -
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you're asking for particle weapons my friend.
null Cookware for sale. Non-stick Teflon.
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.29 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 29/07/2004 15:40:22
Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 29/07/2004 15:39:16
just a minute doesn't a small chunk of matter being moved by a laser count as a hybrid... I mean ffs there called HYBRID's for a reason! They use both matter and energy.
While were at it, can I have the ability to swallow other ships with my phoon and spits out the pods?
and yes the amarr are already overpowered, better rof, better tracking, better 0 res damage than projs, the ability to cause different damage types is the only advantage we have left.
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.29 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 29/07/2004 15:40:22
Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 29/07/2004 15:39:16
just a minute doesn't a small chunk of matter being moved by a laser count as a hybrid... I mean ffs there called HYBRID's for a reason! They use both matter and energy.
While were at it, can I have the ability to swallow other ships with my phoon and spits out the pods?
and yes the amarr are already overpowered, better rof, better tracking, better 0 res damage than projs, the ability to cause different damage types is the only advantage we have left.
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.07.29 15:43:00 -
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rofl this post is funny 
Large PULSE lasers need some nerfing (less tracking)
LARGE artillaries (sp???) need some lub (more tracking)
after this is achieved we may need this
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.07.29 15:43:00 -
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rofl this post is funny
Large PULSE lasers need some nerfing (less tracking)
LARGE artillaries (sp???) need some lub (more tracking)
after this is achieved we may need this
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Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2004.07.29 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Liquid Metal on 29/07/2004 16:19:53
Anyone with any kindof intelligence, or slight knowledge of physics would know lasers wont do anything else apart from cause interference and cook things, (IE Electromagnetic and thermal)
If you change the damage types, then its no longer a laser.
btw, someone said hybrids are laserpowered, but they are actually powered by electromagnets and not lasers.
Hope this clears things up. This was a stupid thread anyway.
Edit: Just read that link with the new crystals, and wtf. if they want to do that, they will *HAVE* to introduce a new type of gun, using that on standard lasers would be stupid.
"A strong man stands tall against all others, everything else is just a delusion for the weak.."
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Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2004.07.29 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Liquid Metal on 29/07/2004 16:19:53
Anyone with any kindof intelligence, or slight knowledge of physics would know lasers wont do anything else apart from cause interference and cook things, (IE Electromagnetic and thermal)
If you change the damage types, then its no longer a laser.
btw, someone said hybrids are laserpowered, but they are actually powered by electromagnets and not lasers.
Hope this clears things up. This was a stupid thread anyway.
Edit: Just read that link with the new crystals, and wtf. if they want to do that, they will *HAVE* to introduce a new type of gun, using that on standard lasers would be stupid.
"A strong man stands tall against all others, everything else is just a delusion for the weak.."
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:00:00 -
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Not quite. Anyone with any shred of intelligence would know that a laser can easily impart explosive damage by flash-vaporizing metal in a confined area, something entirely possible by pumping enough raw energy onto a focused point on a target's hull. Kinetic, I don't know, maybe it's some kind of directed particle weapon instead of a laser.
I don't care what ridiculous tech-speak you have to tell each other in order to justify changing lasers, facts are facts: Lasers blow against armor, and there's no other weapon type in Eve that suffers from this disadvantage. Those of you queefing that hybrids only do two damage types as well should take note that their damage types are equally effective against shields and armour. More damage types is always good.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:00:00 -
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Not quite. Anyone with any shred of intelligence would know that a laser can easily impart explosive damage by flash-vaporizing metal in a confined area, something entirely possible by pumping enough raw energy onto a focused point on a target's hull. Kinetic, I don't know, maybe it's some kind of directed particle weapon instead of a laser.
I don't care what ridiculous tech-speak you have to tell each other in order to justify changing lasers, facts are facts: Lasers blow against armor, and there's no other weapon type in Eve that suffers from this disadvantage. Those of you queefing that hybrids only do two damage types as well should take note that their damage types are equally effective against shields and armour. More damage types is always good.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Not quite. Anyone with any shred of intelligence would know that a laser can easily impart explosive damage by flash-vaporizing metal in a confined area, something entirely possible by pumping enough raw energy onto a focused point on a target's hull. Kinetic, I don't know, maybe it's some kind of directed particle weapon instead of a laser.
I don't care what ridiculous tech-speak you have to tell each other in order to justify changing lasers, facts are facts: Lasers blow against armor, and there's no other weapon type in Eve that suffers from this disadvantage. Those of you queefing that hybrids only do two damage types as well should take note that their damage types are equally effective against shields and armour. More damage types is always good.
Lasers blow against armour but only because they absolutely rock against shields.
Balance, y'know?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Not quite. Anyone with any shred of intelligence would know that a laser can easily impart explosive damage by flash-vaporizing metal in a confined area, something entirely possible by pumping enough raw energy onto a focused point on a target's hull. Kinetic, I don't know, maybe it's some kind of directed particle weapon instead of a laser.
I don't care what ridiculous tech-speak you have to tell each other in order to justify changing lasers, facts are facts: Lasers blow against armor, and there's no other weapon type in Eve that suffers from this disadvantage. Those of you queefing that hybrids only do two damage types as well should take note that their damage types are equally effective against shields and armour. More damage types is always good.
Lasers blow against armour but only because they absolutely rock against shields.
Balance, y'know?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:26:00 -
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If lasers get the ability to do kinetic or explosive damage it better take someone the same amount of time to change crystals as it does to reload ammo, and even if it did I still wouldn't like it.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:26:00 -
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If lasers get the ability to do kinetic or explosive damage it better take someone the same amount of time to change crystals as it does to reload ammo, and even if it did I still wouldn't like it.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:29:00 -
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Yes please, heap on the love! ;p
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:29:00 -
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Yes please, heap on the love! ;p
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Perry
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Perry on 29/07/2004 17:37:49
Although I am usually pro Laser, i have to disagree with Expl/Kin Damage on Beams. High End Beams are good enough as they are, no further loving required. Multifrequency lences r a p e other ships...
But there is a problem of not being able to fit even low numbers of high end beams on amarr cruisers/frigates. Thats the problem.
They have nothing else going for them, the 10% more average armor is worth crap in an actual fight, its one salvo more or less...
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Perry
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Posted - 2004.07.29 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Perry on 29/07/2004 17:37:49
Although I am usually pro Laser, i have to disagree with Expl/Kin Damage on Beams. High End Beams are good enough as they are, no further loving required. Multifrequency lences r a p e other ships...
But there is a problem of not being able to fit even low numbers of high end beams on amarr cruisers/frigates. Thats the problem.
They have nothing else going for them, the 10% more average armor is worth crap in an actual fight, its one salvo more or less...
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