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Venril
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:30:00 -
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If anything Armarr need a close range weapon. and do not say "pulse lasers" because those are medium range weapons!
Armarr need something like a tachyon Pulse laser :-P 3.5x modifier. 5k optimal 8k fall off 7sec refire would be nice @2750 grid.
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Venril
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:30:00 -
[92]
If anything Armarr need a close range weapon. and do not say "pulse lasers" because those are medium range weapons!
Armarr need something like a tachyon Pulse laser :-P 3.5x modifier. 5k optimal 8k fall off 7sec refire would be nice @2750 grid.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:45:00 -
[93]
Ok being limited to 2 damage types is not the main problem. The main problem is EM. It's uber against shield but **** against armor.
Imagine hybrids did kinetic and explosive, you know people would complain about that explosive damage
I'm a laser lobbyist and my biggest queef is why pods have 90% resistance to EM, it's unbalanced and just not needed at all
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:45:00 -
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Ok being limited to 2 damage types is not the main problem. The main problem is EM. It's uber against shield but **** against armor.
Imagine hybrids did kinetic and explosive, you know people would complain about that explosive damage
I'm a laser lobbyist and my biggest queef is why pods have 90% resistance to EM, it's unbalanced and just not needed at all
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Shin Vejita
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:55:00 -
[95]
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just a minute doesn't a small chunk of matter being moved by a laser count as a hybrid... I mean ffs there called HYBRID's for a reason! They use both matter and energy
i dont know if anyone else mentioned it to you but hybrid weapons are propelled by electromagnetic pulses (and they do have them irl but they are just really impractial because of the huge power requirements)
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Imposible. You'd need to create an infinite number (impossible) of photons in a stream one photon wide and put a particle with mass in front of the stream. And if it were possible, once an object with mass reaches the speed of light it has infinite mass, and therefore infinite gravity. It would destroy large portions of the universe.
i have no ideal what your talking about but i was going more on the notion of propelling an object with a laser at near the speed or possibly the speed of light (like how some people think they could propell a space ship at near light speeds with a giant pulse laser blasting the back of a space ship)
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Shin Vejita
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:55:00 -
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just a minute doesn't a small chunk of matter being moved by a laser count as a hybrid... I mean ffs there called HYBRID's for a reason! They use both matter and energy
i dont know if anyone else mentioned it to you but hybrid weapons are propelled by electromagnetic pulses (and they do have them irl but they are just really impractial because of the huge power requirements)
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Imposible. You'd need to create an infinite number (impossible) of photons in a stream one photon wide and put a particle with mass in front of the stream. And if it were possible, once an object with mass reaches the speed of light it has infinite mass, and therefore infinite gravity. It would destroy large portions of the universe.
i have no ideal what your talking about but i was going more on the notion of propelling an object with a laser at near the speed or possibly the speed of light (like how some people think they could propell a space ship at near light speeds with a giant pulse laser blasting the back of a space ship)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:56:00 -
[97]
Problem is, everyone armour tanks these days and end up with higher kinetic/heat resistances than the granted 60% EM resistance.
End result?
You're probably better off using lasers to strip their shields super quick and still achieve the same damage against armour as rails/blasters anyway.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.29 20:56:00 -
[98]
Problem is, everyone armour tanks these days and end up with higher kinetic/heat resistances than the granted 60% EM resistance.
End result?
You're probably better off using lasers to strip their shields super quick and still achieve the same damage against armour as rails/blasters anyway.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 21:30:00 -
[99]
The DPS of a damage dealing apoc is already scary, you want to make it even scarier?
Same thing for a Megathron with blasters.....
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 21:30:00 -
[100]
The DPS of a damage dealing apoc is already scary, you want to make it even scarier?
Same thing for a Megathron with blasters.....
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.29 21:49:00 -
[101]
Looks like no tech II kinetic crystals (which would be stupid), but I like the explaination on the explosive:
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Blaze S
Adv Ammo/Charge/Crystal + Adv Laser Crystals
This frequency modulation crystal uses a modified microwave crystal coupled with a relatively low energy electron beam generator to alter the electric charge of molecules causing them to violently break apart. Can only be used by small tech level II Pulse Lasers
Sounds ok to me. And since they are limited to certain types of turrets... I like it. Also I'm noticing that some of the crystals have tracking or rate of fire penalties, which should be offset by the tech II weapon specialization skills.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.29 21:49:00 -
[102]
Looks like no tech II kinetic crystals (which would be stupid), but I like the explaination on the explosive:
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Blaze S
Adv Ammo/Charge/Crystal + Adv Laser Crystals
This frequency modulation crystal uses a modified microwave crystal coupled with a relatively low energy electron beam generator to alter the electric charge of molecules causing them to violently break apart. Can only be used by small tech level II Pulse Lasers
Sounds ok to me. And since they are limited to certain types of turrets... I like it. Also I'm noticing that some of the crystals have tracking or rate of fire penalties, which should be offset by the tech II weapon specialization skills.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.07.29 21:56:00 -
[103]
making it possible to switch from high em/thermal damage to high explosive damage in no time would make the balance ridicules
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.07.29 21:56:00 -
[104]
making it possible to switch from high em/thermal damage to high explosive damage in no time would make the balance ridicules
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Neverblu
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:53:00 -
[105]
think about it.....lasers dont explode that would cause self infliction, and energy cant be stored in a beam that isnt heat, or energy, especially when the beam isnt solid, so kinetic damage is out of the question
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Neverblu
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:53:00 -
[106]
think about it.....lasers dont explode that would cause self infliction, and energy cant be stored in a beam that isnt heat, or energy, especially when the beam isnt solid, so kinetic damage is out of the question
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piercer
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:18:00 -
[107]
give all the races different ammo/crystals that do all the dmg types, its like trying to get into a tin can with a car key, doesnt work as well.
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piercer
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:18:00 -
[108]
give all the races different ammo/crystals that do all the dmg types, its like trying to get into a tin can with a car key, doesnt work as well.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:21:00 -
[109]
There goes the last thing that projectiles SUPPOSEDLY have...
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:21:00 -
[110]
There goes the last thing that projectiles SUPPOSEDLY have...
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:41:00 -
[111]
When Tech II laser crystals come out, I for one will relish the lack of diversity. The lack of any compelling reason to, say, use projectiles instead of Lasers. I love being lazy.
This is the greatest thing ever.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.08.01 13:41:00 -
[112]
When Tech II laser crystals come out, I for one will relish the lack of diversity. The lack of any compelling reason to, say, use projectiles instead of Lasers. I love being lazy.
This is the greatest thing ever.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.01 14:02:00 -
[113]
crystals belong to energy weapons not lasers.
Energy has mass so it can do kenetic and as for explosion thats just a large amount of thermal being released extreamly fast.
So i dont see a problem with giving them all 4dmg types.
And after all atm energy is only good for anti shield.
but all other weapons have ammo that is anti shield or armour
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.01 14:02:00 -
[114]
crystals belong to energy weapons not lasers.
Energy has mass so it can do kenetic and as for explosion thats just a large amount of thermal being released extreamly fast.
So i dont see a problem with giving them all 4dmg types.
And after all atm energy is only good for anti shield.
but all other weapons have ammo that is anti shield or armour
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.08.01 14:20:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Problem is, everyone armour tanks these days and end up with higher kinetic/heat resistances than the granted 60% EM resistance.
End result?
You're probably better off using lasers to strip their shields super quick and still achieve the same damage against armour as rails/blasters anyway.
Yeah, against most proper armour tanks lasers do just fine, and get less of their damage resisted then hybrids. There are some exceptions, but you're not all that likely to run into it.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.08.01 14:20:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Problem is, everyone armour tanks these days and end up with higher kinetic/heat resistances than the granted 60% EM resistance.
End result?
You're probably better off using lasers to strip their shields super quick and still achieve the same damage against armour as rails/blasters anyway.
Yeah, against most proper armour tanks lasers do just fine, and get less of their damage resisted then hybrids. There are some exceptions, but you're not all that likely to run into it.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.08.01 16:10:00 -
[117]
Particle Beams fall under the Beam weapon category in Eve. Perfectly reasonable for certain particles to cause kinetic and explosive damage.
Mesons.....scary
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.08.01 16:10:00 -
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Particle Beams fall under the Beam weapon category in Eve. Perfectly reasonable for certain particles to cause kinetic and explosive damage.
Mesons.....scary
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Star Fraction
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 16:14:00 -
[119]
AFAIK, Real life lasers cause things to explode after a few seconds.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 16:14:00 -
[120]
AFAIK, Real life lasers cause things to explode after a few seconds.
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