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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.01.23 16:35:00 -
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 Originally by: oogs
I don't post very often at all, mainly because I've been burned by a scam but also because I found a better way to raise cash. My current thought is that if you're going to try and make an IPO, go to folks who know you first. MD is nice if you've already had something running for a while and want to start a second/third/fourth IPO, need a loan, etc. Just as long as you have a proven history. I figure this would weed out most people starting IPOs who don't have a clue about what they're doing.
Bout the same here.Invested in about 8 IPO's last year.When the last one turned out to be a scam and i still was on the profit-side of investments i pulled it all out and restarted my own trades with it.To be honest i was getting damn lazy and it was time something woke me up, too bad such a ****head had to earn cash from it.
I now handpick people myself to invest in and teach them the starters of trades.I invest time and isk and get my share back for it.Still not 100% safe but about the safest one can get in eve.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: flakeys on 23/01/2009 17:05:38
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: oogs
I don't post very often at all, mainly because I've been burned by a scam but also because I found a better way to raise cash. My current thought is that if you're going to try and make an IPO, go to folks who know you first. MD is nice if you've already had something running for a while and want to start a second/third/fourth IPO, need a loan, etc. Just as long as you have a proven history. I figure this would weed out most people starting IPOs who don't have a clue about what they're doing.
Bout the same here.Invested in about 8 IPO's last year.When the last one turned out to be a scam and i still was on the profit-side of investments i pulled it all out and restarted my own trades with it.To be honest i was getting damn lazy and it was time something woke me up, too bad such a ****head had to earn cash from it.
I now handpick people myself to invest in and teach them the starters of trades.I invest time and isk and get my share back for it.Still not 100% safe but about the safest one can get in eve.
That reminds me, do you still own shares in my IPO or did you sell them off?
I sold my shares for the buy price.Can't remember to whom but if i recall right i posted it in your official IPO thread.I know your 'gambling'-IPO was my biggest investment so far in an IPO.The idea itself i really liked.
It's nice and easy extra isk , but risk vs reward is something i over estimated when i look back on my total invesments.What i got from a 6 bille total investment back then i can easily get in 1 day of work with not even 1/4th of the isk and that is totally without risk.
I won't say never but i don't see myself investing in any IPO any time soonish unless the idea or the OP are something i like too much to pass on.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.01.23 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: flakeys on 23/01/2009 19:14:21
Originally by: MailDeadDrop
As a simple thought exercise, imagine that there existed a module that, once activated, guaranteed a win in PvP with no recourse for any opponent. And such a module was undetectable by ship scanners. Do you think that the existence of such a module would have a negative effect on PvP? And when users of the module said "nothing in game forces you to undock your ship", how would you react?
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No in your metaphore you are giving person X something person Y does not have.Anyone in eve can scam however so we are all on equall level.Asking CCP to do something against scams and such is just dumb imho.The only thing they need to do is try to make sure isk and rl cash don't mix up in any way , be it buying or selling isk with/for reall money.It'ss a game and all you can loose is pixels , don't ask others to hold your hands because you are too scared to loose those pixels wich you put at stake purely to gain even more profits/isk then you allready have.
You know the risk of an IPO/bond , you take the risk then don't come complaining when the **** hits the fan.Yes you have every right to be mad at the person who took your isk but asking CCP to interfere is something i don't want like.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.01.23 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: MailDeadDrop
Edited by: MailDeadDrop on 23/01/2009 19:27:05
Originally by: flakeys
No in your metaphore you are giving person X something person Y does not have.
Nope. Assume the module is widely available, and the first person to activate it (in a given engagement) wins. Therefore, it is *precisely* like the scamming environment.
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I really can't see your logic here.Look if someone is at a gate in 0.4 with a raven and tells my alt i can jump my main in in his freighter then i can either trust him or not.Now assume i jump in and he kills me should i ask CCP then to make killings in low-sec impossible?Should i be able to ask CCP to ban this person because he did not tell the truth.
You know in advance there is no security in these investments yet YOU choose to do it because YOU want even more isk then you allready have since YOU allready have more isk then you can manage/consume.
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