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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:22:00 -
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There is an individual out there who has been spreading rumors here in the Market forums and elsewhere that I am a scammer. While his attempts to ruin my business has failed miserably I wanted to have this thread to disprove his allegations and to clear my name of any of his sticky brown stuff he is trying to throw on me.
I have been playing Eve for more then two years. (wow, time flies) I have sold many items in game and have started two businesses that have lasted more then two years. (See below links) I have also started many informative lists to help people know more about Eve and how to play. By any standards people have listed for reasons to trust people in Eve... I have passed most of them.
I have never started an IPO as of yet as it seems to me to be more trouble then it is worth. (All those reports and working with people) I did have one business arrangement with Ricdic and a corp member and it worked okay. It didn't make us a lot of isk but what I did get out of it was the experience and the unqualified recommendation from Ricdic. (If he wants to retract or comment here that is cool)
The only æbadÆ thing that I have done is to allow my corp (NEWO) to join an Alliance that appears to have a high percentage of scammers in it. My involvement in this decision to join was to allow our diplomat to look for a 0.0 Alliance and once their search came to Code Red the corp members voted to join. I knew of no one in that Alliance till we joined. (We will be leaving as quickly as I can move us) I still do not think most of the people in Code Red are æbadÆ or scammers. But I since NEWO is a æpaladinÆ type corp it is best for us to not be a part of an Alliance with this reputation.
Howeverà this person tossing the brown sticky stuff has been trying to smear my name long before NEWO joined Code Red. (Actually going back a year now) But since I have proved this person wrong over timeà they decided that they had to make it appear that I am a scammer to ruin my reputation and business.
I wonder if this crosses the line into in game harassment?
Services I Provide:
Alliance Creation ò Caldari Standings ò Thieves Of EvE ò Titans ò My Links
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:23:00 -
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Reserved.... |

YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:35:00 -
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Why is it that Von Fitzheise gets all the entertainement around here?
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
I wonder if this crosses the line into in game harassment?
One can only hope. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:50:00 -
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My only advice is to realize that it is the height of compliment. At least the height that some of those low brow types can reach. However I can tell you, after 5 years of it, character assassination is well entrenched in Eve and CCP will not, can not, do anything about it. (Heck, I know one or two times that "CCP" has engaged in it!)
That being said, until proof is gained, the worst effect is that a few people will have doubts. Which, to be honest, is what everyone should have about everyone anyway.
So, welcome to the celebrity club. It automatically comes with you very own cyber-stalker and CCP deaf ears as a bonus.
My old mercenary(PVP) corp is recruiting again. Would you believe I'm giving them my signature block for free? |

nether void
Caldari Shrapnel Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral So, welcome to the celebrity club. It automatically comes with you very own cyber-stalker and CCP deaf ears as a bonus.
hehehe  --------------------
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
My only advice is to realize that it is the height of compliment. At least the height that some of those low brow types can reach. However I can tell you, after 5 years of it, character assassination is well entrenched in Eve and CCP will not, can not, do anything about it. (Heck, I know one or two times that "CCP" has engaged in it!)
That being said, until proof is gained, the worst effect is that a few people will have doubts. Which, to be honest, is what everyone should have about everyone anyway.
So, welcome to the celebrity club. It automatically comes with you very own cyber-stalker and CCP deaf ears as a bonus.
Indeed.
I remember how frustrating it was when YouGotRipped started using my signature (name and all) in an attempt to associate me with his bad reputation. It was so irritating and the most annoying part was the mods refusing to do a damn thing about it. As annoying as it was at the time, looking back I guess I should take it as a sort of compliment. He though I was a big enough fish to go after.
As frustrating as it was, he gave up and I got over it a long time ago. Given time, you will too.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Originally by: Shar Tegral
My only advice is to realize that it is the height of compliment. At least the height that some of those low brow types can reach. However I can tell you, after 5 years of it, character assassination is well entrenched in Eve and CCP will not, can not, do anything about it. (Heck, I know one or two times that "CCP" has engaged in it!)
That being said, until proof is gained, the worst effect is that a few people will have doubts. Which, to be honest, is what everyone should have about everyone anyway.
So, welcome to the celebrity club. It automatically comes with you very own cyber-stalker and CCP deaf ears as a bonus.
Indeed.
I remember how frustrating it was when YouGotRipped started using my signature (name and all) in an attempt to associate me with his bad reputation. It was so irritating and the most annoying part was the mods refusing to do a damn thing about it. As annoying as it was at the time, looking back I guess I should take it as a sort of compliment. He though I was a big enough fish to go after.
As frustrating as it was, he gave up and I got over it a long time ago. Given time, you will too.
I didn't give up, I forgave you. hahah |

Pellura
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:07:00 -
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I think Fitz VonHeise's name has surfaced in scamming threads just a few times to many recently, every time in a negative light. I doubt that those accusations are completely unfounded.
The truth is, reputations take a lifetime to build and seconds to destroy, and yours is ****ed now. Frankly, the speed and effort invested in posting this thread creates an opposite impression, as if you do have something to hide and are trying to buy some time to cash on scams.
Core Red are known *******s and anyone choosing to join them must surely be aware of repercussions that may follow that decision. No normal CEO in his right mind will join an alliance without doing at least a tiny little bit of research, so here your excuses look lax at best, while Johnny's rather convincing.
I don't know what your connection to Xabier is yet, but I'm sure it will be uncovered with time. Xabier has demonstrated how someone with enough time and effort can earn people's trust and then still scam them, despite little evidence of what is being planned. In your case there's plenty of dodgy aspects about you and suspicions floating around. Your eagerness to 'clear' your name is suspicious, too.
Quote: I wonder if this crosses the line into in game harassment?
This is the best part, honestly. "Doubt me and I'll petition you". I feel for you, I'm in a pool of tears here. ^^ |

Aluin Chaput
Caldari The Monad Family La Cosa Nostra Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:10:00 -
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Shar, can I join your club? = (
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Pellura I think Fitz VonHeise's name has surfaced in scamming threads just a few times to many recently, every time in a negative light. I doubt that those accusations are completely unfounded.
The truth is, reputations take a lifetime to build and seconds to destroy, and yours is ****ed now. Frankly, the speed and effort invested in posting this thread creates an opposite impression, as if you do have something to hide and are trying to buy some time to cash on scams.
Core Red are known *******s and anyone choosing to join them must surely be aware of repercussions that may follow that decision. No normal CEO in his right mind will join an alliance without doing at least a tiny little bit of research, so here your excuses look lax at best, while Johnny's rather convincing.
I don't know what your connection to Xabier is yet, but I'm sure it will be uncovered with time. Xabier has demonstrated how someone with enough time and effort can earn people's trust and then still scam them, despite little evidence of what is being planned. In your case there's plenty of dodgy aspects about you and suspicions floating around. Your eagerness to 'clear' your name is suspicious, too.
Quote: I wonder if this crosses the line into in game harassment?
This is the best part, honestly. "Doubt me and I'll petition you". I feel for you, I'm in a pool of tears here.
Great first MD post. Now go back to selling yourself in the character bazaar.
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Drakus
Minmatar Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Pellura I think Fitz VonHeise's name has surfaced in scamming threads just a few times to many recently, every time in a negative light. I doubt that those accusations are completely unfounded.
The truth is, reputations take a lifetime to build and seconds to destroy, and yours is ****ed now. Frankly, the speed and effort invested in posting this thread creates an opposite impression, as if you do have something to hide and are trying to buy some time to cash on scams.
Core Red are known *******s and anyone choosing to join them must surely be aware of repercussions that may follow that decision. No normal CEO in his right mind will join an alliance without doing at least a tiny little bit of research, so here your excuses look lax at best, while Johnny's rather convincing.
I don't know what your connection to Xabier is yet, but I'm sure it will be uncovered with time. Xabier has demonstrated how someone with enough time and effort can earn people's trust and then still scam them, despite little evidence of what is being planned. In your case there's plenty of dodgy aspects about you and suspicions floating around. Your eagerness to 'clear' your name is suspicious, too.
Quote: I wonder if this crosses the line into in game harassment?
This is the best part, honestly. "Doubt me and I'll petition you". I feel for you, I'm in a pool of tears here.
really now? really? are you friggin KIDDING?? lol... if someone was calling ME a scammer, i'd do my best to disprove it right away... hell, some might even say i'd be eager to clear my name... but thats just me. I guess in your world, when someone insults your honor you wait for awhile... just so you don't seem to want to clear yourself...
wow...
welcome to MD.
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MailDeadDrop
Globaltech Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: MailDeadDrop on 22/01/2009 00:23:37
Originally by: Pellura I think
OK stop right there. There's the first falsehood.
Seriously, if this were an any more transparent attempt to slander Fitz by the same person, you'd be able to use it as window glass.
Edit: it's so bad, I half wonder if it is from Fitz himself, in an attempt to reverse-slander the other guy.
MDD  Jump Clones: 8M and NO corp switching |

Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pellura I think Fitz VonHeise's name ...
WARNING!! Jonny 101 alt spotted WARNING!!
Originally by: Shar Tegral So, welcome to the celebrity club. It automatically comes with you very own cyber-stalker and CCP deaf ears as a bonus.
Thanks for those kind words....
Originally by: YouGotRipped I didn't give up, I forgave you. hahah

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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:22:00 -
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Quote: I wonder if this crosses the line into in game harassment?
Originally by: Pellura This is the best part, honestly. "Doubt me and I'll petition you". I feel for you, I'm in a pool of tears here.
Well I know I just reported you. IMNSHO if you are going to make such accusations you should do it with your main. If you don't have the balls god gave a gnat why should you be allowed to attack someone? This kind of behavior is one of those things I truly hate about "alt" games. But then most scammers spend their time and effort destroying the good reputation of non-scammers to clear the way to success. (I.e. The recent "anti-market elite" campaign, Fritz grinding, blah, blah, blah.)
My old mercenary(PVP) corp is recruiting again. Would you believe I'm giving them my signature block for free? |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pellura I think
Originally by: MailDeadDrop OK stop right there. There's the first falsehood.
Dammit, I was sipping some coffee. BTW I'm going to have my legal counsel contact you for this blatant imitation you have committed. No one is allowed to be so eloquently hostile except me. (Damn new kids infringing on copyrights!)
My old mercenary(PVP) corp is recruiting again. Would you believe I'm giving them my signature block for free? |

YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/01/2009 00:27:58
Quote: This one may not be a scam, the next one may not be a scam but I'd stake my fortune on the fact that in the end, YouGotRipped will not just rip off his investors but flood this forum with ****-posts. Well, I guess he's already done that.
I believe Kwint owes me some isk... 
Black Sun Empire |

Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2009.01.22 01:20:00 -
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I remember when someone was trying to sabotage my reputation, it was a long time ago....**wavy lines and harp sounds... looks like a flashback*
The year was 1985, Michael Jackson was still rocking out and no one knew he would one day like to "play" with a kid named billy jean rather than just sing about him. AM stereo broadcasting started in Australia. Norwich City wins the English League Cup at Wembley Stadium, beating Sunderland 1-0 in the final. The United Kingdom has its first ever national Glow-worm day. The 30th Eurovision Song Contest takes place in Gothenburg, Sweden. U.S. Route 66 is officially decommissioned. Knorr, Robert Ballard, Jean-Louis Michel, and crew, find the wreck of R.M.S. Titanic.
There I was minding my own business sipping a bottle of juice and thinking about all the fantastic toys I was going to chew on (as most 2 year olds do) when all of a sudden one of my sisters came running into the room. I peered across the room at her and noticed she had pulled down her pants and was dropping a pile in the middle of the living room. To my amazement she continued her quest until she was satisfied then quietly left the room. I was astonished and confused until she came back into the room with my mother. She pointed at the pile and then whispered something to mom, before I knew it I was the one in time out and my sister was rewarded for her caper. It was at that moment that I swore a vow to grow up, become successful, and take a **** on my sisters floor........well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad. 
Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.22 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 It was at that moment that I swore a vow to grow up, become successful, and take a **** on my sisters floor........well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad. 
So, what did you do after you grew up and shat on your sister's floor?
My old mercenary(PVP) corp is recruiting again. Would you believe I'm giving them my signature block for free? |

cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.01.22 01:26:00 -
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how did you get her back?
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Tellathi
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Posted - 2009.01.22 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
There I was minding my own business sipping a bottle of juice and thinking about all the fantastic toys I was going to chew on (as most 2 year olds do) when all of a sudden one of my sisters came running into the room. I peered across the room at her and noticed she had pulled down her pants and was dropping a pile in the middle of the living room. To my amazement she continued her quest until she was satisfied then quietly left the room. I was astonished and confused until she came back into the room with my mother. She pointed at the pile and then whispered something to mom, before I knew it I was the one in time out and my sister was rewarded for her caper. It was at that moment that I swore a vow to grow up, become successful, and take a **** on my sisters floor........well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad. 
I might just be tired, but I suspect I just woke up several people in my building after having read that. Thanks for an alarmingly good laugh
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Fintroll
Endemic Aggression
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Posted - 2009.01.22 02:27:00 -
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It's fairly obvious to any seasoned scammer that you are just trying to build reputation for a big heist. Bit of advice from a pro, the long hauls are rarely worth it. Especially when you are a witless cretin. |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.22 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 I remember when someone was trying to sabotage my reputation, it was a long time ago....**wavy lines and harp sounds... looks like a flashback*
The year was 1985, Michael Jackson was still rocking out and no one knew he would one day like to "play" with a kid named billy jean rather than just sing about him. AM stereo broadcasting started in Australia. Norwich City wins the English League Cup at Wembley Stadium, beating Sunderland 1-0 in the final. The United Kingdom has its first ever national Glow-worm day. The 30th Eurovision Song Contest takes place in Gothenburg, Sweden. U.S. Route 66 is officially decommissioned. Knorr, Robert Ballard, Jean-Louis Michel, and crew, find the wreck of R.M.S. Titanic.
There I was minding my own business sipping a bottle of juice and thinking about all the fantastic toys I was going to chew on (as most 2 year olds do) when all of a sudden one of my sisters came running into the room. I peered across the room at her and noticed she had pulled down her pants and was dropping a pile in the middle of the living room. To my amazement she continued her quest until she was satisfied then quietly left the room. I was astonished and confused until she came back into the room with my mother. She pointed at the pile and then whispered something to mom, before I knew it I was the one in time out and my sister was rewarded for her caper. It was at that moment that I swore a vow to grow up, become successful, and take a **** on my sisters floor........well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad. 
....but did you finish? |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.22 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fintroll It's fairly obvious to any seasoned scammer that you are just trying to build reputation for a big heist. Bit of advice from a pro, the long hauls are rarely worth it. Especially when you are a witless cretin.
Well there you go. Nothing says proof like one of them geniuses from "Endemic Aggression" sitting back on his hindlegs and yapping at his betters. Thanks for clearing that up mate. You may return to the more rewarding task of pulling lint from your navel.
My old mercenary(PVP) corp is recruiting again. Would you believe I'm giving them my signature block for free? |

Fintroll
Endemic Aggression
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Posted - 2009.01.22 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Fintroll It's fairly obvious to any seasoned scammer that you are just trying to build reputation for a big heist. Bit of advice from a pro, the long hauls are rarely worth it. Especially when you are a witless cretin.
Well there you go. Nothing says proof like one of them geniuses from "Endemic Aggression" sitting back on his hindlegs and yapping at his betters. Thanks for clearing that up mate. You may return to the more rewarding task of pulling lint from your navel.
Better in what manner? Whatever your measurement of qualification is, if you take your credentials and Fitz's credentials, and add them together, I am at least two times better than you.
I'll crush you with my wallet, Junior. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.22 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Fintroll I'll crush you with my wallet, Junior.
Mommy and Daddy pay for a few gtc's moron? Any idiot can have a big wallet, as you demonstrate, but I doubt anyone would dare hand you their wallet. That is, "and expect to get it back." The truth is faithless dogs never understand so I'm not going to bother explaining the concept to you. Just do what muppets do, "yap - yap - yap." |

Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.22 04:10:00 -
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If spreading rumors was an bannable offense I'd be pretty screwed, tbh. |

LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.01.22 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Viper ****zIe If spreading rumors was an bannable offense I'd be pretty screwed, tbh.
Must restrain myself from ****-posting. So much low-hanging fruit!  |

Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.22 05:47:00 -
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I have had nothing but positive dealings with Fitz. I have seen a few people in other threads making a few comments and frankly just chalked them off as trolls and moved on.
Fitz also went to the effort of creating the list of thieves in Eve which has been an invaluable resource in EBANK, and a great repository of scam information (the best way to avoid a scam is to understand the conditions in which a scam will most often occur).
Anyway I don't even consider the allegations of scam made by trolls and alts. I wouldn't let them waste your time Fitz, those who have dealt with you have their own opinions that won't be swayed by two-bit trolls. EBANK has it's own troll fanclub too (albeit seriously lacking of late), so I know all about it  |

Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.22 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Fitz also went to the effort of creating the list of thieves in Eve which has been an invaluable resource in EBANK, and a great repository of scam information (the best way to avoid a scam is to understand the conditions in which a scam will most often occur).
That list is wildly inaccurate.
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.01.22 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Ricdic
Fitz also went to the effort of creating the list of thieves in Eve which has been an invaluable resource in EBANK, and a great repository of scam information (the best way to avoid a scam is to understand the conditions in which a scam will most often occur).
That list is wildly inaccurate.
Both the titan and the theives list are indeed not very accurate.
But how has the list been an invaluable resource in EBANK? I have never seen it mentioned at all 
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