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Indignant Assault
Caldari Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.01.26 01:21:00 -
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At this point I would like to say thank you Lilith
For atleast attempting to be rational in all of this.
There are far too many egos and testosterone dictating the course of events that led up to this attempt to trash us into the forums that has resulted in it backfiring on Red Box themselves.
I did tell Fear that the alliance was a bad idea in the first place, as I had seen it happen in Heretics and even when I was flying with Triumverate and in Destiny.
There is always jealousy and huge egos that seem to deteriorate an alliance into a bunch of children smack talking non stop and the final disbanding of that alliance.
If you know that you have corps or leaders in those corps that are unwilling to compromise and take the best interests of the entire alliance into account, then you are bound to fail as an alliance. The very minute your leaders decide that their egos are more important than the over all goal, you are stuffed.
Common sense necessary at all times!
Diplomacy and being humble a must!!

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Ferocious FeAr
Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.01.26 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 26/01/2009 01:11:42
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
To add on Indig's comment, I was approached a while ago stating that DL and Surge had issues with TFS being at the helm of the decision making process of the alliance. That basically ruptured our relationship at that point, it was only a matter of time before it fell apart.
Well if you ask me, creating the alliance was a bad idea in the first place as we rushed into it too much without making sure we really get along.
Guess that is sorted out now 
Originally by: Indignant Assault They are self serving and self important.
Well, the coin has two sides, which was the root of all problems imo.
That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in. |

Barth Evader
THE FINAL STAND Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 01:24:00 -
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The Final Stand has been successful and self sufficient for over 10 years as an organization. We have always achieved more on our own, that's what we've always done. We tried something different and made the alliance. We simply found that we were more comfortable and successful operating as a corp. When you lead a group of people for so many years you become settled in your ways because you know what works. We are going back to that. We pirated for a year straight, we have nothing more to prove to ourselves in that area. We're going to try different things now. I hope everything works out for all the parties involved. |

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in.
Thats not true, we might have been a bit extreme regarding vent discipline, but there is good reason for that.
We're pretty open to people trying to fit in actually, but you have to draw a line somewhere, and that line is crossed when people fly HICs without being able to use the warp disruption generator, tell our FCs to shut up, getting us killed countless times by improper or nonexistant scouting, podding allies and **** like that.
I can remember you being quite furious about some of those yourself, its just some people arent ready to forgive that quick.
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Ferocious FeAr
Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.01.26 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 26/01/2009 02:08:54
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in.
Thats not true, we might have been a bit extreme regarding vent discipline, but there is good reason for that.
We're pretty open to people trying to fit in actually, but you have to draw a line somewhere, and that line is crossed when people fly HICs without being able to use the warp disruption generator, tell our FCs to shut up, getting us killed countless times by improper or nonexistant scouting, podding allies and **** like that.
I can remember you being quite furious about some of those yourself, its just some people arent ready to forgive that quick.
If that statement was actually true I'd still be in TFS. You need to stop generalizing people, not everyone is the same.
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Indignant Assault
Caldari Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.01.26 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in.
Thats not true, we might have been a bit extreme regarding vent discipline, but there is good reason for that.
We're pretty open to people trying to fit in actually, but you have to draw a line somewhere, and that line is crossed when people fly HICs without being able to use the warp disruption generator, tell our FCs to shut up, getting us killed countless times by improper or nonexistant scouting, podding allies and **** like that.
I can remember you being quite furious about some of those yourself, its just some people arent ready to forgive that quick.
Heres where the problem stems from.
Why did I all of a sudden become responsible for all of these things when most happened after I was gone?
Every little issue that anyone seemed to have had with anyone else became
"her fault, lets bash the shyte out of her personal life because of it"
DL and Surge pilots are hardly at fault in the fail flying fail fitting of ships either. It just so happens that Heretics enjoy playing the game more than they enjoy being elitist bigots that want to emo out about everyone elses failings.
Maybe its time that Red Box took a good hard look at themselves and their own pilots before pointing the finger elsewhere???
Everyone can be accused of being at fault for something. Its the general lack of compromise and willingness to work through these issues instead of creating drama behind the scenes that caused the problem.
This is a game after all, and people can only mature in the game and learn from their mistakes when someone is willing to work with them and calmly get to the bottom of whats going on.
Red Box is more inclined to go mental and emo rage and talk behind peoples backs and have all our drama brawls, which never resolve anything at all, that just causes more issues.
I have heard certain DL and Surge members flip out plenty of times and die with some seriously fail fits on thier ships.... Do they get discplined, isolated or spoken to like utter crap?
Please dont dive into hypocrasy here Lilith. You flew with Heretics for quite some time and you know damn well what they are like. You never seemed to have an issue with them then. Just the drama mongers in Red Box brainwashing people with their gossip seem to be the issue now.
There are pilots in Heretics I know for a fact that could wipe the floor with most of the members left in Red Box, and recent engagements have proven just that.
The issues with heretics that seemed to have been blamed on me were simply personal ego issues that have been drawn out of all proportion to make certain people like Seth etc feel better about the drama they have started and cant seem to back up with facts anymore.
The stories are constantly changing now as to what the bottom line of the issues was....I do remember Seth saying it was me manipulating people?? Now its me sticking up for my pilots in heretics and maybe its me just being diplomatic is the issue..
At the time that Fear and I left the corp, it was me and Fear having a personal relationship with each other...
So what is it really? Is there a definitive answer as to what the real issue is? Or shall we just agree with the fact that its a bunch of testosterone filled drama that has gotten out of hand for no good reason other than the fact that the mitigating parties in Red Box have backed themselves into a corner and really dont have a good reason at all for what they have done???
Oh wait.... yes they do.......It's called pathetic childish immaturity over an internet spaceship game they take way too seriously...
Causing them to get completely personal over a real life relationship that is none of their god damn business....

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Jones Bones
Buckeye Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 02:23:00 -
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Wow this turned into an emo thread. |

onegun
Amarr DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2009.01.26 02:52:00 -
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wow, tfs has alot of good members, but...........fear have u lost your mind, this chick lives on the other side of the world, u 2 have never even met. yet you tear your corp and allaince apart for this chick, lol. i know ive been out of game for a few weeks, and to come back and see all this stuff.......wow. seriously get a girlfriend u can touch, and an online game wont mean so much to you.
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Tal Nok
Amarr DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Indignant Assault Finally one sniperpoc decides to set up shop off the gate without a decent celestial warp in....
/me grins.....
I'm honored you mentioned my drunken loss. In fact, I'm honored by this entire thread. I was undocked for a while though, just on a different gate.
However between Slackers and UAT and everyone else and feel the need to bring up every thing they can possibly sc**** up, this thread really does seem like its a battle of the dim-witted quadriplegics trying to fight.
Falcon Blob, long distance high school love, whine and complain on the forums, I mean can you seriously imagine two beings rolling around because they have no arms or legs?
Not quite sure what happened, frustrations of sexual contact which are missing in your lives? Perhaps its the fat that gets in the way between your keyboard and your desk so you can't pleasure yourself. Whatever it is, has provided some quality material for vent.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY.
Need sacrifice.
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Tal Nok
Amarr DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: onegun wow, tfs has alot of good members, but...........fear have u lost your mind, this chick lives on the other side of the world, u 2 have never even met. yet you tear your corp and allaince apart for this chick, lol. i know ive been out of game for a few weeks, and to come back and see all this stuff.......wow. seriously get a girlfriend u can touch, and an online game wont mean so much to you.
harlots are pretty cheap around here, dinner and a screw
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY.
Need sacrifice.
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.26 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Originally by: Righteous Fury I think we only had two falcons in our gang (not counting whatever locals showed up) that night your blob in Amamake got slapped around by our comedy battlecruiser gang. Maybe you should, well, learn2play?

Hmm, there were 4 falcons fielded against our 10 ships, looking at the killboard again 2 of these are indeed not in Slackers. Looking closer at the killmails and lossmails, all 4 of these were fighting on your 'team' exclusively it seems. (On a side note, first time I ever saw someone using 'Legion ECM Spatial Destabilizer.)
Dont get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fight, only grudge I have with people like Slackers is they are too afraid to get in a real fight, always have enough ecm backup to completely take out the hostile gang or they wont engage.
Now compare our fleet, outgunned and outnumbered against overwhelming hostile ecm we stood and fought instead of just warping off and let the pussies play with someone else.
So you say l2play? I raise you grow a pair 
Oh Jesus, another "Pro" PvP group ****ing and moaning about "Real" fights. If you're so "Pro" at Eve you'll know that if you play Eve you accept everything that comes with it. Everyone has an even opportunity to have a Falcon alt and everyone has the opportunity to have 100 mates warp in and help them. If you play CS, you don't whinge about the AWP or the M3. If you play Eve, don't whinge about ships that are in the game.
L2P GBTW Want 1v1? Team Fortress 2 is the place to be. |

Ferocious FeAr
Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.01.26 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: onegun wow, tfs has alot of good members, but...........fear have u lost your mind, this chick lives on the other side of the world, u 2 have never even met. yet you tear your corp and allaince apart for this chick, lol. i know ive been out of game for a few weeks, and to come back and see all this stuff.......wow. seriously get a girlfriend u can touch, and an online game wont mean so much to you.
I never tore up anything. TFS is alive and kicking, they're going to do what they're best at, being a single entity. They work best alone, that is how they got their name. They understand that my place is better served in UAT. We are both happy, that is all that matters to me.
I ask you guys for the last time, to leave our relationship out of this. It has nothing to do with the situation and I'm officially requesting that CCP takes matters into their hands. It has no purpose in this thread and quite frankly its wrong. You people really have some insane issues.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I ask you guys for the last time, to leave our relationship out of this. It has nothing to do with the situation and I'm officially requesting that CCP takes matters into their hands. It has no purpose in this thread and quite frankly its wrong. You people really have some insane issues.

Why are you even in this thread, aren't we supposed to be RABBLE RABBLE so and so can't fight without falcons? *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |

Ferocious FeAr
Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I ask you guys for the last time, to leave our relationship out of this. It has nothing to do with the situation and I'm officially requesting that CCP takes matters into their hands. It has no purpose in this thread and quite frankly its wrong. You people really have some insane issues.

Why are you even in this thread, aren't we supposed to be RABBLE RABBLE so and so can't fight without falcons?
Because the thread was intended to flame Indig and I.
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:15:00 -
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I believe there is an ammendment to the Yulai convention being put forward to Concord, banning the use of Falcons in fleet warfare due to the what is now being called by medical experts as "Slacker Industries syndrome". Symptoms include the utterance of phrases such as "we could have won, we just decided to kit the wrong ships because we are the best" and "you suck, ECM noobs". This very serious condition has also been known to lead to further health complications, also known as C&Pitis, the inflamation of the number of posts in certain sections of Galnet.
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Voltic
Gallente Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:30:00 -
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Looks like you guys should be playing GunBound, Not eve. |

Kojee
DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Camaris Edited by: Camaris on 25/01/2009 07:52:44...When we got back to the station on vent zach or (tal nok) and kojee from Death's legion got on vent rather intoxicated, and they decided to go camp the gate by themselve's why were in the lobby with them he mention that he was losing shields out of no where and he relized he was being killed by fear. So bravo on the drunk sniping apoc kill who though his ship was self destructing...
Just to clarify this situation...
1. I was REALLY ****ing drunk. I could barely read anything on my monitor. 2. I spent the whole time on vent, arguing with Tal Nok and calling him various explicit names, and also broadcasting some bodily function noises. 3. I didn't undock, because even in my insane drunkenness, I knew it was a bad idea. 4. I laughed my ass off when Zach got blown up, and I called him a stupid **** on vent.
This whole thread is epic lulz... hence my contribution. ┌--------------------------------+º Kojee º½--------------------------------┐
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