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Gogocaldariranger	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:07:00 - [1] Edited by: Gogocaldariranger on 24/01/2009 07:16:25 Come to Huola Epic discussion going on.
Nomrag	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:11:00 - [2] wat
Octaviaous	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:13:00 - [3] wat
MegaMarkets Catch Twenty Two	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:18:00 - [4] wat
theonering Minmatar Bitchin In Mah Kitchin Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:23:00 - [5] wat
Commander inCheef	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:25:00 - [6] ^ Poasting for the truth
Orar Ironfist Digital assassins	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:25:00 - [7] wat
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:44:00 - [8] Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Leiara Knight Gallente The Oblivion Guard	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:46:00 - [9] As was foretold.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.24 09:25:00 - [10] LOGS! _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101

Kaiser128 Amarr Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.24 13:09:00 - [11] Loud noises!
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.24 15:52:00 - [12] don't bring too many people though, red box will dock up and refuse to come out, lest they scratch their poorly fitted ships.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.24 16:02:00 - [13] wat We're Recruiting!
Seth McKenzee Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.24 16:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Righteous Fury don't bring too many people though, red box will dock up and refuse to come out, lest they scratch their poorly fitted ships. Bring 9 less falcons you might get gfs
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.24 17:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn wat Tchell, /b/ is ->
Thorin Quinn Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.01.24 17:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn wat lol class
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:25:00 - [17] Originally by: RedSplat Tchell, /b/ is -> Shut up and play. Originally by: Thorin Quinn lol class Oh, snap!
Feilamya Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:45:00 - [18] wat
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.24 20:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Righteous Fury don't bring too many people though, red box will dock up and refuse to come out, lest they scratch their poorly fitted ships. Funny statement, I've yet to see your corp fight without at least twice as many falcons as we have ships...
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.24 20:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Righteous Fury don't bring too many people though, red box will dock up and refuse to come out, lest they scratch their poorly fitted ships. Funny statement, I've yet to see your corp fight without at least twice as many falcons as we have ships... This looks like... _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101

Seth McKenzee Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.24 21:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Righteous Fury don't bring too many people though, red box will dock up and refuse to come out, lest they scratch their poorly fitted ships. Funny statement, I've yet to see your corp fight without at least twice as many falcons as we have ships... Proof or stfu, don't mind if I do? jujub33 > doesn't matter, we have over 40 falcon pilots
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.24 23:12:00 - [22] Originally by: Seth McKenzee Slackers Falcon Pilot Fuggot > doesn't matter, we have over 40 falcon pilots I have over 9000.
Bytes Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 00:29:00 - [23] Originally by: techzer0 I have over 9000. the epeen is strong in this one....
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.25 00:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Bytes the epeen is strong in this one.... 'splains your "Red Box" I guess. We're Recruiting!
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.25 00:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Bytes the epeen is strong in this one.... 'splains your "Red Box" I guess. TouchF _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:00:00 - [26] I think we only had two falcons in our gang (not counting whatever locals showed up) that night your blob in Amamake got slapped around by our comedy battlecruiser gang. Maybe you should, well, learn2play?
SLIM Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:05:00 - [27] In this thread: we learn the real ultimate power of eve is the shield tanked hyperion. c/d?
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:12:00 - [28] Huola's drama moved to the forums _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:44:00 - [29] Fail drama. Was hoping for some quality emo-rage. Or some guy trying to lure nubs into a system where they'd be killed on the gate.
Crystalline Entity Cursed Souls Vort3x.	Posted - 2009.01.25 02:17:00 - [30] Falcons are (insert expletive here) Slacker Industries is known for their over reliance on them. You read it here first and second and third and fourth and fifth....need I continue. They bring falcons and then wonder why they don't get fights...... I wonder............... More dots.......... stop dots.......... run to the centre....... CE

Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 02:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Righteous Fury I think we only had two falcons in our gang (not counting whatever locals showed up) that night your blob in Amamake got slapped around by our comedy battlecruiser gang. Maybe you should, well, learn2play? Hmm, there were 4 falcons fielded against our 10 ships, looking at the killboard again 2 of these are indeed not in Slackers. Looking closer at the killmails and lossmails, all 4 of these were fighting on your 'team' exclusively it seems. (On a side note, first time I ever saw someone using 'Legion ECM Spatial Destabilizer.) Dont get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fight, only grudge I have with people like Slackers is they are too afraid to get in a real fight, always have enough ecm backup to completely take out the hostile gang or they wont engage. Now compare our fleet, outgunned and outnumbered against overwhelming hostile ecm we stood and fought instead of just warping off and let the pussies play with someone else. So you say l2play? I raise you grow a pair
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:05:00 - [32] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Righteous Fury I think we only had two falcons in our gang (not counting whatever locals showed up) that night your blob in Amamake got slapped around by our comedy battlecruiser gang. Maybe you should, well, learn2play? Hmm, there were 4 falcons fielded against our 10 ships, looking at the killboard again 2 of these are indeed not in Slackers. Looking closer at the killmails and lossmails, all 4 of these were fighting on your 'team' exclusively it seems. (On a side note, first time I ever saw someone using 'Legion ECM Spatial Destabilizer.) Dont get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fight, only grudge I have with people like Slackers is they are too afraid to get in a real fight, always have enough ecm backup to completely take out the hostile gang or they wont engage. Now compare our fleet, outgunned and outnumbered against overwhelming hostile ecm we stood and fought instead of just warping off and let the pussies play with someone else. So you say l2play? I raise you grow a pair Your avatar is hot. Calm Your Passion
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:24:00 - [33] Edited by: Righteous Fury on 25/01/2009 03:24:47 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Hmm, there were 4 falcons fielded against our 10 ships, looking at the killboard again 2 of these are indeed not in Slackers. Looking closer at the killmails and lossmails, all 4 of these were fighting on your 'team' exclusively it seems. (On a side note, first time I ever saw someone using 'Legion ECM Spatial Destabilizer.) I'm shocked that you would be jammed by neutrals at a gate, given that you're outlaws in the first place and well known to be disliked by the locals. Truly sir, woe is you. Originally by: Lilith Velkor Dont get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fight, only grudge I have with people like Slackers is they are too afraid to get in a real fight, always have enough ecm backup to completely take out the hostile gang or they wont engage. Pretty ironic, dont you think? I mean, an alliance who camps the Amarr/Minmatar FW lowsec complaining that people might be afraid of a fair fight. I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself, tripping over all those poor, poor noobs. Originally by: Lilith Velkor Now compare our fleet, outgunned and outnumbered against overwhelming hostile ecm we stood and fought instead of just warping off and let the pussies play with someone else. I could give you the benefit of the doubt for the first part, but this bit right here just proves that you are an idiot of legendary magnitude. I'm really not sure where to even begin. Outgunned and outnumbered? I know you must have been terrified because we were flying ships bigger than tech 1 cruisers, but lets break it down shall we? You brought six entirely gank-fit battleships (lost them all), two commands (lost both), a hic, and maybe a tackler or two. Doing the known math, thats nine. I'll slow down for you, just because you apparently get confused easily. We had a comedy gang with.... nine battlecruisers, a hac, and two falcons. If you really want me to hop over to EFT and do some calculations as to who claimed the title for 'outgunned' I will, but in the mean time let me give you this medal for 'Valiant Histrionics in the Face of Humiliation,' because your ability to moan about getting reamed by a comedy gang is unmatched. Suffice to say, I know its hard for you to accept because you're so used to getting skill-less ganks, but you were hardly outnumbered. Also helps when your alliance mates actually post their losses, but let us not digress. Originally by: Lilith Velkor So you say l2play? I raise you grow a pair Grow a pair? Really? I'd reference the bit about how awesome you guys think you are for killing FWers, but now I'm just being redundant. The best part of your whole post I saved for last though. I mean, do you seriously think you deserve credit and/or respect for engaging a gang and not being fitted properly? Perhaps this is where you and I differ (in the sense that, I'm not a retard and you clearly are), because if I had your powers of clairvoyance to know what our gang was rolling with, I'd maybe have dropped some of the faction shield boosters and gyrostabs for, oh, I don't know. Some ECCM? You get respect when you do something intelligent, not when you bitch and moan about Falcons because you're obviously too stupid to come up with any sort of counter. I'll give you a hint though: the best part about killing an alliance who thinks they're hot shit because they can bring 30 people to any given fight is when they all run away from you when they see your corp ticker anywhere within five jumps of their home system. Keep crying about Falcons, your tears are really just incentive for us to bring more of them.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:31:00 - [34] I'm gonna quote this for emphasis and bold a few bits for you Red Box guys, since I know reading comprehension is a hard skill. Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 25/01/2009 03:24:47 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Hmm, there were 4 falcons fielded against our 10 ships, looking at the killboard again 2 of these are indeed not in Slackers. Looking closer at the killmails and lossmails, all 4 of these were fighting on your 'team' exclusively it seems. (On a side note, first time I ever saw someone using 'Legion ECM Spatial Destabilizer.) I'm shocked that you would be jammed by neutrals at a gate, given that you're outlaws in the first place and well known to be disliked by the locals. Truly sir, woe is you. Originally by: Lilith Velkor Dont get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fight, only grudge I have with people like Slackers is they are too afraid to get in a real fight, always have enough ecm backup to completely take out the hostile gang or they wont engage. Pretty ironic, dont you think? I mean, an alliance who camps the Amarr/Minmatar FW lowsec complaining that people might be afraid of a fair fight. I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself, tripping over all those poor, poor noobs. Originally by: Lilith Velkor Now compare our fleet, outgunned and outnumbered against overwhelming hostile ecm we stood and fought instead of just warping off and let the pussies play with someone else. I could give you the benefit of the doubt for the first part, but this bit right here just proves that you are an idiot of legendary magnitude. I'm really not sure where to even begin. Outgunned and outnumbered? I know you must have been terrified because we were flying ships bigger than tech 1 cruisers, but lets break it down shall we? You brought six entirely gank-fit battleships (lost them all), two commands (lost both), a hic, and maybe a tackler or two. Doing the known math, thats nine. I'll slow down for you, just because you apparently get confused easily. We had a comedy gang with.... nine battlecruisers, a hac, and two falcons. If you really want me to hop over to EFT and do some calculations as to who claimed the title for 'outgunned' I will, but in the mean time let me give you this medal for 'Valiant Histrionics in the Face of Humiliation,' because your ability to moan about getting reamed by a comedy gang is unmatched. Suffice to say, I know its hard for you to accept because you're so used to getting skill-less ganks, but you were hardly outnumbered. Also helps when your alliance mates actually post their losses, but let us not digress. Originally by: Lilith Velkor So you say l2play? I raise you grow a pair Grow a pair? Really? I'd reference the bit about how awesome you guys think you are for killing FWers, but now I'm just being redundant. The best part of your whole post I saved for last though. I mean, do you seriously think you deserve credit and/or respect for engaging a gang and not being fitted properly? Perhaps this is where you and I differ (in the sense that, I'm not a retard and you clearly are), because if I had your powers of clairvoyance to know what our gang was rolling with, I'd maybe have dropped some of the faction shield boosters and gyrostabs for, oh, I don't know. Some ECCM? You get respect when you do something intelligent, not when you bitch and moan about Falcons because you're obviously too stupid to come up with any sort of counter. I'll give you a hint though: the best part about killing an alliance who thinks they're hot shit because they can bring 30 people to any given fight is when they all run away from you when they see your corp ticker anywhere within five jumps of their home system. Keep crying about Falcons, your tears are really just incentive for us to bring more of them.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:32:00 - [35] This was worth watching. i can bath in all those rage tears _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:49:00 - [36] Falcon Industries: Recruiting pilots with high electronics SP today!
Troubadour Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:53:00 - [37] I went into huola with my well known falcon alt (in SL corp thanks) and saw that Red Box had a mighty gang on the gate with several CBC, HIC, and BS. I noticed a falcon uncloaking in the same spot 160km off the gate... in the direction of the station Red Box live in. Could we be more lazy guys? Anyway, I setup the spot and had a single corpmate of my land right on the falcon as they all tried to gank a drake coming from otelen. If i had gotten a ranis like I asked for it would of been caught and lolganked right in front of his buddies, but alas, "I don't have a ranis i have a sabre". locktime too slow and falcon cloaked. To my surprise, instead of warping to the falcon 160km away and killing a sabre and falcon, the group of over 10 warped directly to the station. And there they stayed for the entire time all of two Slackers were in local. Quote: [ 2009.01.24 21:25:53 ] operated > o/ [ 2009.01.24 21:25:59 ] jujub33 > hay guise [ 2009.01.24 21:26:23 ] jujub33 > MORE THEN 1 SLACKER IN LOCAL DOCK IT'S A TARP [ 2009.01.24 21:26:35 ] Gibson Rothman > always is [ 2009.01.24 21:26:39 ] Kaiser128 > ^ [ 2009.01.24 21:26:59 ] Wolf 10 > how do you say your name? [ 2009.01.24 21:27:00 ] jujub33 > lucky falcon :( [ 2009.01.24 21:27:07 ] jujub33 > JU JU BEE [ 2009.01.24 21:27:18 ] Wolf 10 > i like it ! [ 2009.01.24 21:27:24 ] operated > lol [ 2009.01.24 21:27:27 ] Gibson Rothman > its a gummie treat [ 2009.01.24 21:28:21 ] wettestwillie > tastey! [ 2009.01.24 21:30:06 ] jujub33 > :) [ 2009.01.24 21:30:10 ] jujub33 > nom nom nom [ 2009.01.24 21:31:08 ] Wolf 10 > i knew you would say that :) [ 2009.01.24 21:31:35 ] jujub33 > so scurred :( [ 2009.01.24 21:31:37 ] jujub33 > we no hurt u [ 2009.01.24 21:32:15 ] Seth McKenzee > bring it we'll hurt you [ 2009.01.24 21:32:24 ] jujub33 > yes to the station! [ 2009.01.24 21:32:35 ] operated > no ty =-p [ 2009.01.24 21:32:44 ] jujub33 > why not on the gate where you were? [ 2009.01.24 21:33:02 ] jujub33 > that was fine for mr.drake [ 2009.01.24 21:33:06 ] wettestwillie > were outnumberd on falcon, the station will make up the difference [ 2009.01.24 21:33:06 ] Seth McKenzee > okay then please I say this with the utmost kindess from my heart, stfu [ 2009.01.24 21:33:20 ] jujub33 > you hurt my feelings The convo goes on from there, but that's the gist of it. They stayed docked the entire time.
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:53:00 - [38] Epic thread started by "Camaris" alt from Red Box that backfired into flameage... Insert "duh" here... Red Box has proven to be full of the most emo raging, drama filled knobheads I have come across in eve to date.. Truth about Huola episode last night Here It seems you dont need alot of ships or ECM to beat anyone in Red Box Alliance.. You just need a Vaga!
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 04:02:00 - [39] Edited by: Indignant Assault on 25/01/2009 04:04:27 Originally by: Troubadour I went into huola with my well known falcon alt (in SL corp thanks) and saw that Red Box had a mighty gang on the gate with several CBC, HIC, and BS. I noticed a falcon uncloaking in the same spot 160km off the gate... in the direction of the station Red Box live in. Could we be more lazy guys? Anyway, I setup the spot and had a single corpmate of my land right on the falcon as they all tried to gank a drake coming from otelen. If i had gotten a ranis like I asked for it would of been caught and lolganked right in front of his buddies, but alas, "I don't have a ranis i have a sabre". locktime too slow and falcon cloaked. To my surprise, instead of warping to the falcon 160km away and killing a sabre and falcon, the group of over 10 warped directly to the station. And there they stayed for the entire time all of two Slackers were in local. Quote: [ 2009.01.24 21:25:53 ] operated > o/ [ 2009.01.24 21:25:59 ] jujub33 > hay guise [ 2009.01.24 21:26:23 ] jujub33 > MORE THEN 1 SLACKER IN LOCAL DOCK IT'S A TARP [ 2009.01.24 21:26:35 ] Gibson Rothman > always is [ 2009.01.24 21:26:39 ] Kaiser128 > ^ [ 2009.01.24 21:26:59 ] Wolf 10 > how do you say your name? [ 2009.01.24 21:27:00 ] jujub33 > lucky falcon :( [ 2009.01.24 21:27:07 ] jujub33 > JU JU BEE [ 2009.01.24 21:27:18 ] Wolf 10 > i like it ! [ 2009.01.24 21:27:24 ] operated > lol [ 2009.01.24 21:27:27 ] Gibson Rothman > its a gummie treat [ 2009.01.24 21:28:21 ] wettestwillie > tastey! [ 2009.01.24 21:30:06 ] jujub33 > :) [ 2009.01.24 21:30:10 ] jujub33 > nom nom nom [ 2009.01.24 21:31:08 ] Wolf 10 > i knew you would say that :) [ 2009.01.24 21:31:35 ] jujub33 > so scurred :( [ 2009.01.24 21:31:37 ] jujub33 > we no hurt u [ 2009.01.24 21:32:15 ] Seth McKenzee > bring it we'll hurt you [ 2009.01.24 21:32:24 ] jujub33 > yes to the station! [ 2009.01.24 21:32:35 ] operated > no ty =-p [ 2009.01.24 21:32:44 ] jujub33 > why not on the gate where you were? [ 2009.01.24 21:33:02 ] jujub33 > that was fine for mr.drake [ 2009.01.24 21:33:06 ] wettestwillie > were outnumberd on falcon, the station will make up the difference [ 2009.01.24 21:33:06 ] Seth McKenzee > okay then please I say this with the utmost kindess from my heart, stfu [ 2009.01.24 21:33:20 ] jujub33 > you hurt my feelings The convo goes on from there, but that's the gist of it. They stayed docked the entire time. ^^^ They spent all their time hugging the station and sitting inside it while Ferocious Fear was there solo in a Vagabond also.... Finally one sniperpoc decides to set up shop off the gate without a decent celestial warp in.... /me grins..... Cov ops are your friends people....use them wisely and use them often.... Superfailsauce Red Box alliance....Without The Final Stand there to hold your hands anymore its back to rookie fits and sniper bs and whinning about ecm??? You lot should try keeping your mouthes shut and your drama to a minimum from now on..... You spend more time concerned about other peoples corps and personal lives than you do about the impending failure of your own alliance... The new recruits seem jolly mature..... Nice bunch of kindergarten graduates. Congrats on that Sethy! GNT 2 Red Box 0 ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Orar Ironfist Digital assassins	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:10:00 - [40] I like the drama in this thread but it seems slacker is being too defensive everytime someone says the word 'ecm' or 'unfair fight'. I bet that means your good at using falcon spam and making unfair fights? ((btw the second part is loltastic considering this is eve))

Kaiser128 Amarr Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:14:00 - [41]
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:46:00 - [42] Edited by: Thann Starlinbow on 25/01/2009 06:46:53 Edited by: Thann Starlinbow on 25/01/2009 06:46:34 Originally by: Orar Ironfist I like the drama in this thread but it seems slacker is being too defensive everytime someone says the word 'ecm' or 'unfair fight'. I bet that means your good at using falcon spam and making unfair fights? ((btw the second part is loltastic considering this is eve)) No, see.. we're good at killing ****s. If it's a fair fight, you're doing it wrong. edit: holy **, r-etards is censored?
Jones Bones Buckeye Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 07:14:00 - [43] Poastin' in a SL thread! RF is gay. Angelonico is def gay. O boi im gay 2!?!?!? Slacker Ind.? More like Falcon Ind.? AMIRITE. btw, lol Redbox. =================== Go Bucks!
Camaris Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 07:50:00 - [44] Edited by: Camaris on 25/01/2009 07:52:44 As far as the fear solo in a vaga thing... we were camping the gate in a pounce when we saw the probe drop in local the first time. For the past hour we had been camping that gate, and nothing worth a damn had came through so everybody decided to take a break.. When we got back to the station on vent zach or (tal nok) and kojee from Death's legion got on vent rather intoxicated, and they decided to go camp the gate by themselve's why were in the lobby with them he mention that he was losing shields out of no where and he relized he was being killed by fear. So bravo on the drunk sniping apoc kill who though his ship was self destructing. Secondly all the drama started in huola local because of one reason, you dropped a probe on us to begin with and everyone knew that you weren't just passing through to amamake. As far as the slacker falcon issue goes.. it's true it seems like everytime we fight slackers theres 4-5 falcon's that decloak. Infact there's been time where we scouted 10 falcons and 3 black ops in kuomi with one falcon in huola local with a navy raven trying to pick a fight on station. If you do it often it's going to be assumed that you will continue doing it regardless of what your gang actually consists of. And I for one will be the first to tell you redbox does not have alot of ecm pilots, we just don't which is why we don't engage if there is heavy ecm on the field; I'm also willing to bet that no one will deny this, which is the reason we don't fight you. So get of your trip thinking your just to uber or were just to fail to fight you. It has nothing to do with that, as stated in local here by me many times, and many other people get rid of the falcon's vs gangs with no falcon's and well fight without an issue. Edit: Sorry for my fail grammer and lack of correct paragraph formating.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 09:05:00 - [45] Originally by: Camaris Edited by: Camaris on 25/01/2009 07:52:44 As far as the fear solo in a vaga thing... we were camping the gate in a pounce when we saw the probe drop in local the first time. For the past hour we had been camping that gate, and nothing worth a damn had came through so everybody decided to take a break.. When we got back to the station on vent zach or (tal nok) and kojee from Death's legion got on vent rather intoxicated, and they decided to go camp the gate by themselve's why were in the lobby with them he mention that he was losing shields out of no where and he relized he was being killed by fear. So bravo on the drunk sniping apoc kill who though his ship was self destructing. Secondly all the drama started in huola local because of one reason, you dropped a probe on us to begin with and everyone knew that you weren't just passing through to amamake. So what you're saying is 'grats on killing a moron sitting off a gate drunk who tried to self-destruct his ship when attacked by a single HAC but still failed', right? Originally by: Camaris As far as the slacker falcon issue goes.. it's true it seems like everytime we fight slackers theres 4-5 falcon's that decloak. Infact there's been time where we scouted 10 falcons and 3 black ops in kuomi with one falcon in huola local with a navy raven trying to pick a fight on station. If you do it often it's going to be assumed that you will continue doing it regardless of what your gang actually consists of. And I for one will be the first to tell you redbox does not have alot of ecm pilots, we just don't which is why we don't engage if there is heavy ecm on the field; I'm also willing to bet that no one will deny this, which is the reason we don't fight you. So get of your trip thinking your just to uber or were just to fail to fight you. It has nothing to do with that, as stated in local here by me many times, and many other people get rid of the falcon's vs gangs with no falcon's and well fight without an issue. Edit: Sorry for my fail grammer and lack of correct paragraph formating. hahahahaha. If we brought a real gang of battleships, you guys would never engage us. By the way, if you magically 'know' that we will have falcons every time, how the hell do you not fit some ECCM when running to fight us? Because I'll tell you what, a BS with a couple ECCM fitted is damn hard to jam and we would have lost badly to your gank-BS gang. But instead, like idiots, you didn't fit ANY.. even though you KNEW we had falcons in our gang, by your own admission in local.. so you lost 6 gank BS, some of them faction-fit, 2 command ships.. faction fit.. and something else, I forget what.. to a gang of battlecruisers and falcons.. and only managed to kill two Harbringers. Basically, what you're saying is, you are terrible. Thanks for clearing that up.
Camaris Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 11:11:00 - [46] Edited by: Camaris on 25/01/2009 11:14:21 Edited by: Camaris on 25/01/2009 11:11:54 Originally by: Thann Starlinbow So what you're saying is 'grats on killing a moron sitting off a gate drunk who tried to self-destruct his ship when attacked by a single HAC but still failed', right? No not at all, I said he though his ship was self destructing, grats on killing a drunk guy that was so drunk that he "thought" his ship was self destructing. Originally by: Thann Starlinbow hahahahaha. If we brought a real gang of battleships, you guys would never engage us. By the way, if you magically 'know' that we will have falcons every time, how the hell do you not fit some ECCM when running to fight us? Because I'll tell you what, a BS with a couple ECCM fitted is damn hard to jam and we would have lost badly to your gank-BS gang. But instead, like idiots, you didn't fit ANY.. even though you KNEW we had falcons in our gang, by your own admission in local.. so you lost 6 gank BS, some of them faction-fit, 2 command ships.. faction fit.. and something else, I forget what.. to a gang of battlecruisers and falcons.. and only managed to kill two Harbringers. Basically, what you're saying is, you are terrible. Thanks for clearing that up. I can honestly say since I've been in redbox I havn't lost a bs to slackers in any sort of way nor any kind of ship I do believe. As far as the amamake gang? I can also say that I can't speak for the pilots who died/fought in the amamake fight that your speaking of because I wasn't there. Just about every one of us in the alliance with some sense fits one mid slot eccm if it possible to fit without completely gimping the ship.. Which means most of our losses will show that on abaddon/mega/hyperion ships of that class have an eccm fitted because of the fact that not only you use falcon's, but most of the fw blobs blackbirds. As far as you getting a fair fight, we would fight you with out a doubt we've done it before with many other pirate corps, arrange fights that is. The only time we ever run from a fight is for either of the following reason's. Ecm that we can't counter (don't give me crap about eccm, even if you can't jam all pilots killing half the dps could turn the fight), we no the fight is impossible to win, and in most cases if this is not because of ecm we do it anyways. A few examples here before you call bs: FW + gate guns. FW Heavyily outnumber + massive ecm + gate guns. So again I don't know if your getting your facts based on one **ty fight that we had together regardless of who **ed up how. But before you started through the your a fail alliance card around, lets have a fight arrange and see who comes out on top. Lastly I'd like to just note one fit in particular, 3 ECCM This was during that last fight that I did link, and let me say he was perma jammed most of the fight because he was rr/neut fit. So this spill about hard to jam with eccm complete bullcrap.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 11:26:00 - [47] Edited by: Thann Starlinbow on 25/01/2009 11:37:43 Really? All your BS fit ECCM? WAIT. LOOK, It's the only dude that had ECCM fit in that entire fight Personally, I especially love the Megathron with two cap recharger II's in his midslots instead of say... ECCM. Edit: Furthermore, I am TOTALLY IMPRESSED that you losers can kill a bunch of unorganized factional warfare gangs. Because as we know, Factional Warfare is the pinnacle of PVP skill in EVE. Also, I know this is hard to fathom because it's math and all, but follow along with me here. Your Domi had a sensor strength of 122. Assuming decent skills and fits, a racial ECM of his type is going to have a 13~ish jam strength. That means, ON AVERAGE, 1/10 jams will hit him. Now if you get unlucky, it's even more. But seeing as how those guys had.. what was it.. 4 or 5 ECM ships? I didn't bother to count.. and since your domi was the OBVIOUS RR/Nuet boat in your gang.. yeah, no one would have EVER thought to concentrate all ECM on him. Totally shocked. Really.
Crystalline Entity Cursed Souls Vort3x.	Posted - 2009.01.25 13:36:00 - [48] If there are threads about particular pirates then they are doing their job perfectly CE
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 13:51:00 - [49] Originally by: Orar Ironfist I like the drama in this thread but it seems slacker is being too defensive everytime someone says the word 'ecm' or 'unfair fight'. I bet that means your good at using falcon spam and making unfair fights? ((btw the second part is loltastic considering this is eve)) Defensive? Not really, we just enjoy the tears from people who have 11 million excuses as to why they got killed and somehow think they deserve respect for their mistakes. Oh hey guys, he was too drunk to pvp, that doesn't count. OR WAIT, we came to a fight unprepared, because we obviously didn't want those ships anyway. Oh yea? Oh yea? We'd fight you if you brought battleships! But guys, don't blob us, we can barely handle the FW gangs on our own! That means you can only bring one ship for every two of ours, or we'll cry real real hard about being outnumbered by a comedy gang. Guys?! Get real. The only talent Red Box has that they can receive any credit for is their ability to delude themselves into thinking that anyone actually fears or respects them, and/or that they have any pvp skill whatsoever. The real crowning achievement of this thread is that Red Box have been singularly been complaining about being run over by Slacker Industries comedy gangs of battlecruisers, thoraxes, or whatever we decide to fly that night. Isn't it amazing how we have to dumb down our usual gangs and use bait to even get you to think about engaging, and yet you still lose and cry emo tears about it? As Thann pointed out, you cowards wouldn't even undock if we showed up with a real gang. But really, I still respect you. I promise.
Lucrende Slinkna	Posted - 2009.01.25 15:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Indignant Assault You lot should try keeping your mouthes shut and your drama to a minimum from now on..... You spend more time concerned about other peoples corps and personal lives than you do about the impending failure of your own alliance... Tell me is this Fear typing on your account lulz.... However a couple more shots out to you... You joined the alliance after leaving Heretic to be with your "e-lover" commit account theft/hijacking get him and yourself banned spin more drama in the alliance vent, and then when things don't go your way try to bring the alliance down with you. You dear need to heed your own words.

Bytes Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 15:32:00 - [51] Edited by: Bytes on 25/01/2009 15:32:30 Wanted to let you know who posted that to you, just didn't click the right toon on the drop down.
Seth McKenzee Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 15:52:00 - [52] Not responding to the biggest E-gina in the whole game not worth my time( I mean its like a Vienna sausage down a hallway). But seeing as Slackers hasn't taken us up on our offer of a arranged BS fight it shows that all you can -do- is fly your funny gangs with BC, Vexors and 5-10 falcons as support. Let's do an 11v11 no falcons eh?
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 16:04:00 - [53] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 16:08:46 Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 16:08:04 Originally by: Righteous Fury I'm shocked that you would be jammed by neutrals at a gate, given that you're outlaws in the first place and well known to be disliked by the locals. Truly sir, woe is you. They were not neutrals, we killed their friends a few minutes earlier. Might be the reason they didnt like us though, who knows. Quote: We had a comedy gang with.... nine battlecruisers, a hac, and two falcons. If you really want me to hop over to EFT and do some calculations as to who claimed the title for 'outgunned' I will, but in the mean time let me give you this medal for 'Valiant Histrionics in the Face of Humiliation,' because your ability to moan about getting reamed by a comedy gang is unmatched. 10 (6 BS, 2 CS, 1 HIC, 1 HAC btw) of us vs 14 of you (+ assorted locals): check outnumbered The outgunned part is a bit harder to establish if true or not, but I guess with half our fleet jammed and sentry fire on us it'll hold true, feel free to check EFT though. Quote: The best part of your whole post I saved for last though. I mean, do you seriously think you deserve credit and/or respect for engaging a gang and not being fitted properly? Well, while my call would've been to just disengage in that situation, I kinda like how my buddies decided to stay and fight nonetheless, a coward will never understand that though. Quote: Your avatar is hot. Thanks. I think I have a frozen corpse of me lying around somewhere, wanna bid on it?
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 19:42:00 - [54] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 16:20:11 Originally by: Righteous Fury I'm shocked that you would be jammed by neutrals at a gate, given that you're outlaws in the first place and well known to be disliked by the locals. Truly sir, woe is you. They were not neutrals, we killed their friends a few minutes earlier. Might be the reason they didnt like us though, who knows. That's kind of the point he was making. Originally by: Lilith Velkor Quote: We had a comedy gang with.... nine battlecruisers, a hac, and two falcons. If you really want me to hop over to EFT and do some calculations as to who claimed the title for 'outgunned' I will, but in the mean time let me give you this medal for 'Valiant Histrionics in the Face of Humiliation,' because your ability to moan about getting reamed by a comedy gang is unmatched. 10 (6 BS, 2 CS, 1 HIC, 1 HAC btw) of us vs 14 of you (+ assorted locals): check outnumbered The outgunned part is a bit harder to establish if true or not, but I guess with half our fleet jammed and sentry fire on us it'll hold true, feel free to check EFT and do some nerdy calculations though. 10 of you, in fully gank-fit BS and command ships, vs. us in a comedy battlecruiser gang. I'll give you 'outnumbered', like you seem to think that means something. By the way, the only 'assorted' locals that are even on any of your killmails is 1 Taranis (he's on one killmail, I believe) and 1 Falcon (on three mails!). Man, those locals totally swarmmed all over you guys and tipped the balance of the fight, amirite? Originally by: Lilith Velkor Quote: The best part of your whole post I saved for last though. I mean, do you seriously think you deserve credit and/or respect for engaging a gang and not being fitted properly? Well, while my call would've been to just disengage in that situation, I kinda like how my buddies decided to stay and fight nonetheless, a coward will never understand that though. To put it simple, we knew we were gonna get owned, but didnt care. WE DIDN'T WANT THOSE SHIPS OR FACTIONS MODULES ANYWAYS, GUYS. SO WE STAYED TO GET BLOWN UP BECAUSE WE R DUMB. Seriously, the best part about the entire fight is how hard you guys are back-peddling, crying and making up excuses about 'why you lost' now.
Seth McKenzee Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 19:49:00 - [55] Originally by: Indignant Assault Edited by: Indignant Assault on 25/01/2009 04:04:27 Originally by: Troubadour I went into huola with my well known falcon alt (in SL corp thanks) and saw that Red Box had a mighty gang on the gate with several CBC, HIC, and BS. I noticed a falcon uncloaking in the same spot 160km off the gate... in the direction of the station Red Box live in. Could we be more lazy guys? Anyway, I setup the spot and had a single corpmate of my land right on the falcon as they all tried to gank a drake coming from otelen. If i had gotten a ranis like I asked for it would of been caught and lolganked right in front of his buddies, but alas, "I don't have a ranis i have a sabre". locktime too slow and falcon cloaked. To my surprise, instead of warping to the falcon 160km away and killing a sabre and falcon, the group of over 10 warped directly to the station. And there they stayed for the entire time all of two Slackers were in local. Quote: [ 2009.01.24 21:25:53 ] operated > o/ [ 2009.01.24 21:25:59 ] jujub33 > hay guise [ 2009.01.24 21:26:23 ] jujub33 > MORE THEN 1 SLACKER IN LOCAL DOCK IT'S A TARP [ 2009.01.24 21:26:35 ] Gibson Rothman > always is [ 2009.01.24 21:26:39 ] Kaiser128 > ^ [ 2009.01.24 21:26:59 ] Wolf 10 > how do you say your name? [ 2009.01.24 21:27:00 ] jujub33 > lucky falcon :( [ 2009.01.24 21:27:07 ] jujub33 > JU JU BEE [ 2009.01.24 21:27:18 ] Wolf 10 > i like it ! [ 2009.01.24 21:27:24 ] operated > lol [ 2009.01.24 21:27:27 ] Gibson Rothman > its a gummie treat [ 2009.01.24 21:28:21 ] wettestwillie > tastey! [ 2009.01.24 21:30:06 ] jujub33 > :) [ 2009.01.24 21:30:10 ] jujub33 > nom nom nom [ 2009.01.24 21:31:08 ] Wolf 10 > i knew you would say that :) [ 2009.01.24 21:31:35 ] jujub33 > so scurred :( [ 2009.01.24 21:31:37 ] jujub33 > we no hurt u [ 2009.01.24 21:32:15 ] Seth McKenzee > bring it we'll hurt you [ 2009.01.24 21:32:24 ] jujub33 > yes to the station! [ 2009.01.24 21:32:35 ] operated > no ty =-p [ 2009.01.24 21:32:44 ] jujub33 > why not on the gate where you were? [ 2009.01.24 21:33:02 ] jujub33 > that was fine for mr.drake [ 2009.01.24 21:33:06 ] wettestwillie > were outnumberd on falcon, the station will make up the difference [ 2009.01.24 21:33:06 ] Seth McKenzee > okay then please I say this with the utmost kindess from my heart, stfu [ 2009.01.24 21:33:20 ] jujub33 > you hurt my feelings The convo goes on from there, but that's the gist of it. They stayed docked the entire time. ^^^ They spent all their time hugging the station and sitting inside it while Ferocious Fear was there solo in a Vagabond also.... Finally one sniperpoc decides to set up shop off the gate without a decent celestial warp in.... /me grins..... Cov ops are your friends people....use them wisely and use them often.... Superfailsauce Red Box alliance....Without The Final Stand there to hold your hands anymore its back to rookie fits and sniper bs and whinning about ecm??? You lot should try keeping your mouthes shut and your drama to a minimum from now on..... You spend more time concerned about other peoples corps and personal lives than you do about the impending failure of your own alliance... The new recruits seem jolly mature..... Nice bunch of kindergarten graduates. Congrats on that Sethy! GNT 2 Red Box 0 Lets take a look at your KB? SuperFailSauceKB You should stick to doing what you know best Tash, because its obviously not PvP and you don't get round lips from eating square meals. But you can keep hiding behind your new uber l337 pvp e-boyfriend and telling everyone the story about how he killed a apoc on a gate with his vagabond b/c honestly noone cares.
Orar Ironfist Digital assassins	Posted - 2009.01.25 20:35:00 - [56] I just had to say that eccm's dont help at all against well skilled falcon pilots. Theres even a video that cown made showing him with 3 eccm's and a single falcon had his bs perma'd. And i have a qeustion for both parties thats been buggin me: Slackers: Why dont you give a heavy bs gang a shot and then see if they dont fight instead of just assuming? Red Box: Why do you keep responding to this thread, its just flamebait
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 20:36:00 - [57] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 20:43:09 Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 20:41:34 Originally by: Thann Starlinbow 10 of you, in fully gank-fit BS and command ships, vs. us in a comedy battlecruiser gang. I'll give you 'outnumbered', like you seem to think that means something. By the way, the only 'assorted' locals that are even on any of your killmails is 1 Taranis (he's on one killmail, I believe) and 1 Falcon (on three mails!). Man, those locals totally swarmmed all over you guys and tipped the balance of the fight, amirite? You dont seem to understand, what tipped the balance was 4 faclons jamming our 10 ships. Granted, 2 of these were not in your gang, but doesnt change a thing for the jammed ship, amirite? We could prolly argue about this forever, but tell you what, if you guys are that l33t why not just take the offer Seth put forward earlier in this thread and meet us for a nice 10v10 BS fight without falcons? Quote: Originally by: Lilith Velkor To put it simple, we knew we were gonna get owned, but didnt care. WE DIDN'T WANT THOSE SHIPS OR FACTIONS MODULES ANYWAYS, GUYS. SO WE STAYED TO GET BLOWN UP BECAUSE WE R DUMB. Seriously, the best part about the entire fight is how hard you guys are back-peddling, crying and making up excuses about 'why you lost' now. Lol, you dont get it obviously. We did stay because there was a good fight to be had, thats the whole point. Strange concept for you I can imagine, but try it some time, at least for me it spins my wheels. Even if it means losing faction fit battleships, but hey those things arent meant to spin around in a station anyway, no? Looking at the wallets of the guys that lost faction fittings I'm pretty sure they couldnt care less btw, not even mentioning we already lost way more expensive ships than that. No need to make excuses either, its pretty clear you guys just won because you had ecm support and we didnt. Feel free to brag about it some more though. Quote: Red Box: Why do you keep responding to this thread, its just flamebait Its kinda amusing, and besides this is C&P, isnt that the whole point of this forum?
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:21:00 - [58] Originally by: Lilith Velkor No need to make excuses either, its pretty clear you guys just won because you had ecm support and we didnt. Puts finger to ear Hold on folks, I'm getting in new reports. Yes, news just in, tactical superiority wins engagements. This new shocking evidence will be put to our military experts in just a minute.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:21:00 - [59] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 20:43:09 Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 20:41:34 Originally by: Thann Starlinbow 10 of you, in fully gank-fit BS and command ships, vs. us in a comedy battlecruiser gang. I'll give you 'outnumbered', like you seem to think that means something. By the way, the only 'assorted' locals that are even on any of your killmails is 1 Taranis (he's on one killmail, I believe) and 1 Falcon (on three mails!). Man, those locals totally swarmmed all over you guys and tipped the balance of the fight, amirite? You dont seem to understand, what tipped the balance was 4 faclons jamming our 10 ships. Granted, 2 of these were not in your gang, but doesnt change a thing for the jammed ship, amirite? INSERT EXCUSE WHY WE LOST HERE Originally by: Lilith Velkor We could prolly argue about this forever, but tell you what, if you guys are that l33t why not just take the offer Seth put forward earlier in this thread and meet us for a nice 10v10 BS fight without falcons? Probably because we don't have anything to prove and you guys arn't worth our time. We will just continue ganking you guys like we have been.. and you guys will continue to run away at even the sight of a .SL. ticker in local like you have been. Originally by: Lilith Velkor Quote: Originally by: Lilith Velkor To put it simple, we knew we were gonna get owned, but didnt care. WE DIDN'T WANT THOSE SHIPS OR FACTIONS MODULES ANYWAYS, GUYS. SO WE STAYED TO GET BLOWN UP BECAUSE WE R DUMB. Seriously, the best part about the entire fight is how hard you guys are back-peddling, crying and making up excuses about 'why you lost' now. Lol, you dont get it obviously. We did stay because there was a good fight to be had, thats the whole point. Strange concept for you I can imagine, but try it some time, at least for me it spins my wheels. If it was for 'oh em gee, gf gf gf' then why are you guys complaining so much about it? Originally by: Lilith Velkor Even if it means losing faction fit battleships, but hey those things arent meant to spin around in a station anyway, no? Looking at the wallets of the guys that lost faction fittings I'm pretty sure they couldnt care less btw, not even mentioning we already lost way more expensive ships than that. Yeah, like I said "WE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THOSE SHIPS ANYWAYS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CRY ABOUT LOSING THEM" Originally by: Lilith Velkor No need to make excuses either, its pretty clear you guys just won because you had ecm support and we didnt. Feel free to brag about it some more though. No, we won because we're smarter and better than you are. vOv
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:22:00 - [60] Originally by: Greme Originally by: Lilith Velkor No need to make excuses either, its pretty clear you guys just won because you had ecm support and we didnt. Puts finger to ear Hold on folks, I'm getting in new reports. Yes, news just in, tactical superiority wins engagements. This new shocking evidence will be put to our military experts in just a minute. Military experts are saying that tactical superiority is a good thing! More news on this shocking development at 11!

Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:40:00 - [61] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 21:43:24 Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Probably because we don't have anything to prove and you guys arn't worth our time. We will just continue ganking you guys like we have been.. and you guys will continue to run away at even the sight of a .SL. ticker in local like you have been. So you are just running your mouth without any incentive to back it up I take it? Way to go champ, thats what the l33t PvPers do I guess /thread
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 21:41:59 Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Probably because we don't have anything to prove and you guys arn't worth our time. We will just continue ganking you guys like we have been.. and you guys will continue to run away at even the sight of a .SL. ticker in local like you have been. So you are just running your mouth without any incentive to back it up I take it? Way to go champ, thats what the l33t PvPers do I guess Now I know that English is a hard language, but I don't think that word means what you think it means. Here, let me help. in⋅cen⋅tive /ɪnˈsɛntɪv/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [in-sen-tiv] Show IPA Pronunciation ûnoun 1. something that incites or tends to incite to action or greater effort, as a reward offered for increased productivity. ûadjective 2. inciting, as to action; stimulating; provocative. See, what that means is you guys would have to 'provide us incentive' to come slaughter you some more. And some arranged fight means exactly diddly squat to us, because we have nothing to prove. Who's lost more ships to the other? Who's lost more isk to the other? Oh, that's right, YOU HAVE. So keep running away, it's pretty pr0.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:55:00 - [63] Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Now I know that English is a hard language, but I don't think that word means what you think it means. Here, let me help. Not really a hard language imo, but not my primary one I'll admit. So I messed up a vocable, bohoo. I'll try to take more care with the other 3 languages I speak I promise... And my point still stands, you dont want an even fight because you're afraid "We dont have to prove anything" is chicken talk tbh.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Now I know that English is a hard language, but I don't think that word means what you think it means. Here, let me help. Not really a hard language imo, but not my primary one I'll admit. So I messed up a vocable, bohoo. I'll try to take more care with the other 3 languages I speak I promise... And my point still stands, you dont want an even fight because you're afraid "We dont have to prove anything" is chicken talk tbh. Yeah, we're so chicken that we engaged a gang of battleships and command ships with our battlecruisers and a couple falcons and won. :( :( :( You totally found us out, mang. Tears like yours is why I keep playing EVE. It nourishes me. Keep it up, please.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:12:00 - [65] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 22:12:32 Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Tears like yours is why I keep playing EVE. It nourishes me. Keep it up, please. Tears? Did you miss the point where I said I actually enjoyed the fight? I'm not talking about how falcons are overpowered or unfair (imo they're just fine), my point is you guys are too afraid to fight without em... not that I'd shed a tear over a bunch of muppets chickening out of a even fight
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:21:00 - [66] Originally by: Seth McKenzee Lets take a look at your KB? http://www.uat.thefinalstand.com/?a=kills" SuperFailSauceKB[/url] "telling everyone the story about how Fear killed a apoc on a gate with his vagabond b/c honestly noone cares". Thanks for the free advertising! Ofcourse you dont care, thats why you and red box spend so much time concerning yourselves with our business and our corp......BECAUSE YOU DONT CARE RIGHT!!!???!!! The problem with you Mr McKenzee is that you are more concerned with ganking and having a killboard efficiency over 80% than you are with having fun and getting a good fight. If we as a corp spent all our time worrying about having bad efficiency we wouldnt bother undocking at all. Or like you, we would spend all our time ganking on a gate waiting for poor unsuspecting morons to jump in and die miserably. Since when have any of you jumped into an eight or ten man gang solo and dominated? Absolutely never! This is why you are so butthurt about Uranus.... We have the balls to take risks and dont cry about losing ships when we are seriously outnumbered. Yourself and your pilots dont pvp....You opportunity gank like most of the pirates in low sec these days. Slackers atleast deserve respect. They are tactical in what they do. Their pilots fly as well solo as they do in a gang. They arent afraid of using what their pilots are trained for. It's a concept that eludes you and Red Box, so you continue to recruit new pilots and new corps into your failing alliance so that you have more numbers than anyone else. When you dont have the numbers you dont engage. You complain about falcons non stop, and yet I manage to kill falcons quite nicely with a raven that is set up for that job. Learn to adapt and diversify instead of whine about what you cant cope with. You can carry on using personal insults and private information that is none of your business to try and justify how much of a failure you are as a pvp'r and a leader. These sorts of things prove just how immature and completely useless you really are. The maturity level in Red Box is that of a bunch of junior high school girls attacking the A student. Dont expect me to lower myself to your level, I dont have the stomach for your pathetic drama. Concentrate on your own corp and your own e drama Seth. You are barely holding on to what you have as it is. You certainly dont have any integrity or dignity left to be proud of. Go with your KB statistics... I am sure one of your pilots will sit on a gate and shoot macro haulers for a few days to pump up the numbers..
Zak Zerachiel Caldari Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:21:00 - [67] Originally by: Lilith Velkor ...bunch of muppets chickening out of a even fight 1) There's no such thing as an even fight. 2) If you're smart, any fight you get into is on your own terms, at your own advantage. You sir, are a moron.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:35:00 - [68] Originally by: Zak Zerachiel Originally by: Lilith Velkor ...bunch of muppets chickening out of a even fight 1) There's no such thing as an even fight. 2) If you're smart, any fight you get into is on your own terms, at your own advantage. You sir, are a moron. This. Also, Lilith, I'd like to thank you for responding to me over and over again trying to defend your e-rep by calling us chickens like we need to prove something to you when you guys hide from us any time we are near just because you're not smart enough to figure out how to fight our gangs and win.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:36:00 - [69] Originally by: Zak Zerachiel Originally by: Lilith Velkor ...bunch of muppets chickening out of a even fight 1) There's no such thing as an even fight. 2) If you're smart, any fight you get into is on your own terms, at your own advantage. That is true, I'd never deny that. What I'm on about is the refusal to engage in a arragned fight on even terms, you know, good sport? Maybe I'm just not taking this game serious enough
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:46:00 - [70] Originally by: Indignant Assault You complain about falcons non stop, and yet I manage to kill falcons quite nicely with a raven that is set up for that job. Learn to adapt and diversify instead of whine about what you cant cope with. Have you even bothered to check that falcon fit on your killboard? So you managed to kill an utterly failfit falcon, good job. Highsec pvp must be thrilling. About personal insults, I fully agree that was way over the top and shouldnt have happened. But then again, dont act like you are the innocence in person, mkay? If you **** people off nonstop they get pretty angry at you at some point.

Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 22:56:00 - [71] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Indignant Assault You complain about falcons non stop, and yet I manage to kill falcons quite nicely with a raven that is set up for that job. Learn to adapt and diversify instead of whine about what you cant cope with. Have you even bothered to check that falcon fit on your killboard? So you managed to kill an utterly failfit falcon, good job. Highsec pvp must be thrilling. About personal insults, I fully agree that was way over the top and shouldnt have happened. But then again, dont act like you are the innocence in person, mkay? If you **** people off nonstop they get pretty angry at you at some point. Regardless of the fact that that particular falcon was fit for whatever reason like that. It had two jammers on it Lilith ie: It could have jammed to save itself against only two people. You dont always know what someone is going to fit their ship like so you have to learn to go with what you have and make the best of it. That particular corp always fields several falcons and black birds. We have learned to adjust the way we fly against them, most of the time they dock up their bbs and falcons in structure. obviously there is plenty of pvp to be had in high sec, otherwise we wouldnt be getting into the fights we get into. We throw expensive ships at them because thats what we fly. They outnumber us every time with t1 crap. So what......We still engage with the odds against us and have fun doing it. As for your comrads in Red Box... They had no good reason to be angry at any of the members of UAT, other than we left Red Box for greener pastures. They continue to dramatise and get personal and smack non stop and make forum postings about us with personal information and personal insults and we continue to defend ourselves with ingame business only. If you are looking for a higher ground here you wont find one. To be angry at someone you need a valid reason that isnt created in your own heads for the sake of your own drama. Fear and the rest of the members that were in The Final Stand left to do their own thing... Get over it already! This is internet spaceships.... ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:00:00 - [72] What's that, lassie? Falcons got you down?
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:15:00 - [73] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 23:21:46 Originally by: Indignant Assault As for your comrads in Red Box... They had no good reason to be angry at any of the members of UAT, other than we left Red Box for greener pastures. They continue to dramatise and get personal and smack non stop and make forum postings about us with personal information and personal insults and we continue to defend ourselves with ingame business only. Most guys that have a problem with you had it since the first day we rolled with heretics, and for good reason. While I'm pretty relaxed about stuff like that personally, others are not. And quite honestly, I can understand them somewhat. Again, I'm not defending any senseless smacking that went way too personal, fully agree that was uncalled for in every way. Edit: and since we're posting falcon kills, here is mine. A fairly standard falcon fit I might add, and compared to your kill he even managed to use all his lowslots.
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:30:00 - [74] Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 25/01/2009 23:36:27 Seth: If you had any moral decency you would never bring anything personal into any conversation. What does that tell you about you as a person? You and Redbox really need to acknowledge the concept of respect, it's something that will go a long way in life. As for our killboard, what's wrong with it? Do you even know the type of engagements we have? We aren't sitting on a gate with sniper apoc's killing people who aren't there for pvp. We're getting into massively outnumbered fights. Do we care? The stats really tell the story. We want to pvp and have fun, if you find the need to bash any of our pilots you can arrange a nice fight between the two corps without any ECM. Ever since I left that alliance and CEO of The Final Stand you guys have just dwindled into absolute trash, when we first agreed to make the alliance the goal was never to publicly disrespect anyone. We were to do our job in game and never put our game on forums because at the end of the day, you win fights in game, not on the forums. It's apparent that you and your alliance are content on attempting to win them on the forums because you can't salvage a sinking ship anymore. You are pressing every emergency button you can find to allow for that miserable of an alliance to continue. Oh and as for Indignant Assault not knowing "pvp" uhhh I learned a lot from her in terms of non battleship tactics and how to approach the game. You are well misinformed.... or shall I say brainwashed. Now please, go gate camp some more so that you can build that efficiency. Obviously that is what determines who is good and who is not.
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:44:00 - [75] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 25/01/2009 23:21:46 Originally by: Indignant Assault As for your comrads in Red Box... They had no good reason to be angry at any of the members of UAT, other than we left Red Box for greener pastures. They continue to dramatise and get personal and smack non stop and make forum postings about us with personal information and personal insults and we continue to defend ourselves with ingame business only. Most guys that have a problem with you had it since the first day we rolled with heretics, and for good reason. While I'm pretty relaxed about stuff like that personally, others are not. And quite honestly, I can understand them somewhat. Again, I'm not defending any senseless smacking that went way too personal, fully agree that was uncalled for in every way. Edit: and since we're posting falcon kills, here is mine. A fairly standard falcon fit I might add, and compared to your kill he even managed to use all his lowslots. Yes I do understand. Most of them had a problem with the fact that I was a woman who was running an alliance and that I defended my pilots and tried to solve issues. I do get this. Diplomacy was severely lacking in most of DL and Surge's corp members. There was no other reason as to why they had issues because I rarely spoke during fleet ops, I was respectful to the FCs, always thanked them afterwards for their good work and barely talked to half the people that have issues and many of them have joined since we left and have those same issues (they never met me, how convenient that they dislike me via osmosis) Your corps are full of drama and propaganda and very little facts. Time to just accept that. The only reason that anyone in those corps has an issue is because they didnt like a woman playing a mans game, plain and simple. Considering the trash that has come out of thier mouthes since (right down to calling me a ***** etc) I am fully aware of the type of people you are flying with. If I was a man........ There would never have been an issue and you damn well know it. You could never fault my pvp, any of you, so you have chosen to go the route of trashing my personal life and my character as a woman and a human being.. Thats how pathetic and sad you all are... Back to the business end of eve..... As Fear said, front up and put your money where your mouth is.... We will even bring less numbers and see how it ends up... No ECM needed! Fly safe and have a happy happy day...... o7 ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Seth McKenzee Surge. Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:58:00 - [76] Edited by: Seth McKenzee on 26/01/2009 00:00:15 Originally by: Indignant Assault I do get this. Diplomacy was severely lacking in most of DL and Surge's corp members. [/quote You forgot to add TFS in there. Sadly 90% of that corp hated you too. So if 3 corporations of over 150 people hated you, the odds there seem to speak for themselves unless you're saying all 150 are childish highschool drama queens which you probably will. So stop **ing twisting everything into woe is me bull** Tash. You're not the innocent little non-drama flower you're trying to portray yourself here and anyone who has ever flown with you that you wern't manipulating knows that.
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:08:00 - [77] Originally by: Seth McKenzee Originally by: Indignant Assault I do get this. Diplomacy was severely lacking in most of DL and Surge's corp members. [/quote You forgot to add TFS in there. Sadly 90% of that corp hated you too. Thats why the active members joined my corp and the rest are fixing their sec status so that they can fly with us right?? Next?? The two and a half members that joined you in your drama have been kicked out of TFS already... You might want to change your angles slightly to avoid making yourself look like an idiot Seth.... The walls are closing in. ps: Several of the TFS members/leaders that bought into your drama later came and apologised to me for following your lead down the path of disgusting drama that you initiated them into.... Logic obvioulsy escapes you right now as each of those members that are left in TFS raise their sec status and spend all their time still flying with us in 0.0 and now empire.. Congrats on your 90% statistical error.... No wonder your Alliance is falling apart.... You cant even see when people are actively leaving you and your drama because they cant stand it anymore and going back to the people they have been flying with for years and actually care about. You drove everyone away with your pathetic attempt to witch hunt and string someone up by the neck and you still want to blame me for your own bad behaviour.. People arent stupid Seth, when the dust settles they tend to look at things alot more objectively and realise just where the cause of the trouble stems from. Your wake up call passed you by a week ago and you never even noticed..
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:12:00 - [78] Indignant, I am totally very angry about you derailing this thread. >:( >:( This fred is about how slackers are chicken and stuff!
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:16:00 - [79] Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 26/01/2009 00:17:04 Originally by: Seth McKenzee Edited by: Seth McKenzee on 26/01/2009 00:00:15 Originally by: Indignant Assault I do get this. Diplomacy was severely lacking in most of DL and Surge's corp members. [/quote You forgot to add TFS in there. Sadly 90% of that corp hated you too. So if 3 corporations of over 150 people hated you, the odds there seem to speak for themselves unless you're saying all 150 are childish highschool drama queens which you probably will. So stop **ing twisting everything into woe is me bull Tash. You're not the innocent little non-drama flower you're trying to portray yourself here and anyone who has ever flown with you that you wern't manipulating knows that. First off, including DL and Surge into any statistical figure is pointless because we all know they do not have minds of their own. They were fed bull from the start and it has never ended. You and I know this but you can't come to a public agreement because it will just simply make you look bad. Don't include TFS in your stupid forum drama, they left the alliance for that very reason. They hate the fact that you guys ramble on about stupid pointless bull**. Some may agree, some may not, it really doesn't matter because right now you are left with cannon fodder and endless childish remarks. What a great accomplishment that has been for Redbox. __________________ Built like a Rokh
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:20:00 - [80] I would also like to add Seth, that while you sit there on your totem pole trying to convince yourself that I am some manipulative piece of crap for a woman... All these people I seem to manipulate into umm what? pvp??? Because I have never asked for a damn thing from anyone, I am self sufficient in eve... What am I manipulating them with exactly? Flying with me in a gang or something? Are they all so weak and spineless that you think not one of these people I seem to manipulate can think for themselves?? Is that what you think of all of them? Spineless gutless men you fly with every day that are easily manipulated into umm..... What exactly?? I have yet to see any actual proof of any manipulations at all, just your constant desire to scratch for some sort of justification as to why you hate women and are a complete drama queen yourself.. I'm manipulating this conversation on an internet forum that one of YOUR members started right now right??? RIGHT!!???!!!! Yeah you have hit an alltime pathetic low Sethy......Well done!!! ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~

Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:21:00 - [81] Originally by: Indignant Assault Your corps are full of drama and propaganda and very little facts. Time to just accept that. I beg to differ. There wasnt any drama until DL/Surge. came to huola and joined forces with heretics. Thats where the drama started, and you are responsible for quite a big part of it. Still no reason to get personal, but keep the facts straight.
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:21:00 - [82] Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Indignant, I am totally very angry about you derailing this thread. >:( >:( This fred is about how slackers are chicken and stuff! :((((( ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:25:00 - [83] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Indignant Assault Your corps are full of drama and propaganda and very little facts. Time to just accept that. I beg to differ. There wasnt any drama until DL/Surge. came to huola and joined forces with heretics. Thats where the drama started, and you are responsible for quite a big part of it. Still no reason to get personal, but keep the facts straight. She was the sole purpose of why heretics stood in our 'forces' for so long. She wanted things to work out and went out of her way to get the 4 corps to accept each other, but you would know that because YOU were there in the conversations we had. Do me a favor and stay quiet. Stop defending your teammates, its just makes you look more ignorant as every minute passes. __________________ Built like a Rokh
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:29:00 - [84] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Indignant Assault Your corps are full of drama and propaganda and very little facts. Time to just accept that. I beg to differ. There wasnt any drama until DL/Surge. came to huola and joined forces with heretics. Thats where the drama started, and you are responsible for quite a big part of it. Still no reason to get personal, but keep the facts straight. Lilith When the Heretic Pilot shot one of your members and podded him, I was not even online.. How could I have possibly been part of any of the drama that went down when I was not on the internet for 2 months? When I left everything was perfectly fine and everyone was in gangs together every day with no issues at all. There was one occasion where a heretic member spoke badly to a Surge FC and that was dealt with. I am not responsible for what grown men say and do, I was only responsible for fixing the issues and repremanding the pilot involved. If you want to accuse me of causing drama then atleast come up with something valid when I was actually around... Not blame me for everything that happened while I was gone. Every time any issues arose I dealt with them and tried to keep all parties involved happy. If that makes me the cause of all the issues between Heretics and DL and Surge then god help anyone who tries to solve issues in an internet spaceship game.. I should have behaved like the rest of you and started making forum drama posts about how much of a ho you are..... ????? That always makes things better right?? Or maybe I should gossip about someones personal relationship behind their backs for several weeks till they finally drive those two people out to their own corp because they are sick of hearing about all the drama going on that happens to be none of the people who are gossiping' god damn business?? Maybe I really should lower myself to your levels of integrity and drama?? hmmm???
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:31:00 - [85] Originally by: Indignant Assault Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Indignant, I am totally very angry about you derailing this thread. >:( >:( This fred is about how slackers are chicken and stuff! :((((( It's ok, I'll let you have a taste of my drumstick.
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:38:00 - [86] I just want to clarify one other thing to you Lilith Ferocious Fear and I started the entire Pirate Infestation thing. I went to him with the idea and we sorted it all out. Heretics and The Final Stand had been working together for quite some time before that and had no issues in doing so. Deaths Legion and Surge were "INVITED" by Ferocious Fear after the fact. It was both of those corps inability to actually get along with other people that started the issues, not Heretics. DL and Surge convinced themselves they were superior very early on in the peace and continued to get on their high horses as though they were the ones leading the pack. Without Ferocious Fear and The Final Stand and myself leading the way and making the decisions they made... DL and Surge would still be floundering in the systems they couldnt cope with beforehand. I do remember it was myself that sat there for hours cyno'ing in all your cap ships etc long after Heretics and TFS were settled in the system. No thanks necessary... ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:51:00 - [87] Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 26/01/2009 00:51:39 To add on Indig's comment, I was approached a while ago stating that DL and Surge had issues with TFS being at the helm of the decision making process of the alliance. That basically ruptured our relationship at that point, it was only a matter of time before it fell apart. Let's put this into perspective shall we? Everything the alliance did at the time was done through TFS because no one stepped up. Now, sit back and think about this for a moment....don't you see a pattern developing here? You have issues, you blame others for your inability to adjust to new surroundings. Maybe you all need to understand diplomacy instead of displaying such ambiguity for a individual that had nothing to do with your downfall. ****ing shame I tell you. __________________ Built like a Rokh
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:51:00 - [88] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 26/01/2009 00:55:26 Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 26/01/2009 00:53:39 Originally by: Indignant Assault When I left everything was perfectly fine and everyone was in gangs together every day with no issues at all. From my point of view, it just looked perfectly fine while infact people were boiling below the surface. (could've been resolved probably, but you'd have to know about it first.) Quote: Every time any issues arose I dealt with them and tried to keep all parties involved happy. If that makes me the cause of all the issues between Heretics and DL and Surge then god help anyone who tries to solve issues in an internet spaceship game.. To be honest, I think that didnt do any good. At some point it was clear there were problems that couldnt be resolved anymore, and while I see you had to defend your guys and tried to get it sorted, you got yourself into a position where people projected lots of their anger towards you instead of the offenders. As a good leader, you have to accept you cant make everyone happy, and if you try you dont do any good. And no, I wont partake in any mudslinging on the forums, doesnt spin my wheels. What I say is you had your share of responsibility in this, take it or leave it.
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:04:00 - [89] You seem to misunderstand what a good leader does and doesnt do.. Running a business is the same as running a corp or alliance in eve... Diplomacy is about solving problems and trying to look at all sides.. A good leader doesnt just sit back and let problems brew under the surface and not do anything to solve those issues. This is the reason why DL and Surge dont get on with anyone else... They are incapable of putting difference aside, they have ego and e peen issues and refuse to swallow their pride and do what is best for the entire team.. They are self serving and self important. Why they got involved in an Alliance situation is beyond me... They will invoke one drama after another as to why they cant work with certain people or in certain situations..... it makes them feel better about their own failings as pilots, people and as a whole. I refuse to believe that leadership and diplomacy are about keeping your mouth shut till you finally explode and then go on a two month rampage againt the responsible adult in the situation who tried to resolve issues as they eventuated. I guess my idea of adult relations is far different to most of the supposed adults in your alliance... ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:09:00 - [90] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 26/01/2009 01:11:42 Originally by: Ferocious FeAr To add on Indig's comment, I was approached a while ago stating that DL and Surge had issues with TFS being at the helm of the decision making process of the alliance. That basically ruptured our relationship at that point, it was only a matter of time before it fell apart. Well if you ask me, creating the alliance was a bad idea in the first place as we rushed into it too much without making sure we really get along. Guess that is sorted out now Originally by: Indignant Assault They are self serving and self important. Well, the coin has two sides, which was the root of all problems imo.

Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:21:00 - [91] At this point I would like to say thank you Lilith For atleast attempting to be rational in all of this. There are far too many egos and testosterone dictating the course of events that led up to this attempt to trash us into the forums that has resulted in it backfiring on Red Box themselves. I did tell Fear that the alliance was a bad idea in the first place, as I had seen it happen in Heretics and even when I was flying with Triumverate and in Destiny. There is always jealousy and huge egos that seem to deteriorate an alliance into a bunch of children smack talking non stop and the final disbanding of that alliance. If you know that you have corps or leaders in those corps that are unwilling to compromise and take the best interests of the entire alliance into account, then you are bound to fail as an alliance. The very minute your leaders decide that their egos are more important than the over all goal, you are stuffed. Common sense necessary at all times! Diplomacy and being humble a must!!
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:22:00 - [92] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 26/01/2009 01:11:42 Originally by: Ferocious FeAr To add on Indig's comment, I was approached a while ago stating that DL and Surge had issues with TFS being at the helm of the decision making process of the alliance. That basically ruptured our relationship at that point, it was only a matter of time before it fell apart. Well if you ask me, creating the alliance was a bad idea in the first place as we rushed into it too much without making sure we really get along. Guess that is sorted out now Originally by: Indignant Assault They are self serving and self important. Well, the coin has two sides, which was the root of all problems imo. That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in.
Barth Evader THE FINAL STAND Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:24:00 - [93] The Final Stand has been successful and self sufficient for over 10 years as an organization. We have always achieved more on our own, that's what we've always done. We tried something different and made the alliance. We simply found that we were more comfortable and successful operating as a corp. When you lead a group of people for so many years you become settled in your ways because you know what works. We are going back to that. We pirated for a year straight, we have nothing more to prove to ourselves in that area. We're going to try different things now. I hope everything works out for all the parties involved.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:44:00 - [94] Originally by: Ferocious FeAr That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in. Thats not true, we might have been a bit extreme regarding vent discipline, but there is good reason for that. We're pretty open to people trying to fit in actually, but you have to draw a line somewhere, and that line is crossed when people fly HICs without being able to use the warp disruption generator, tell our FCs to shut up, getting us killed countless times by improper or nonexistant scouting, podding allies and **** like that. I can remember you being quite furious about some of those yourself, its just some people arent ready to forgive that quick.
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:08:00 - [95] Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 26/01/2009 02:08:54 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Ferocious FeAr That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in. Thats not true, we might have been a bit extreme regarding vent discipline, but there is good reason for that. We're pretty open to people trying to fit in actually, but you have to draw a line somewhere, and that line is crossed when people fly HICs without being able to use the warp disruption generator, tell our FCs to shut up, getting us killed countless times by improper or nonexistant scouting, podding allies and **** like that. I can remember you being quite furious about some of those yourself, its just some people arent ready to forgive that quick. If that statement was actually true I'd still be in TFS. You need to stop generalizing people, not everyone is the same. __________________ Built like a Rokh
Indignant Assault Caldari Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:15:00 - [96] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Ferocious FeAr That still doesn't excuse the fact that you guys are narrow-minded and never allowed others to fit in. Thats not true, we might have been a bit extreme regarding vent discipline, but there is good reason for that. We're pretty open to people trying to fit in actually, but you have to draw a line somewhere, and that line is crossed when people fly HICs without being able to use the warp disruption generator, tell our FCs to shut up, getting us killed countless times by improper or nonexistant scouting, podding allies and **** like that. I can remember you being quite furious about some of those yourself, its just some people arent ready to forgive that quick. Heres where the problem stems from. Why did I all of a sudden become responsible for all of these things when most happened after I was gone? Every little issue that anyone seemed to have had with anyone else became "her fault, lets bash the shyte out of her personal life because of it" DL and Surge pilots are hardly at fault in the fail flying fail fitting of ships either. It just so happens that Heretics enjoy playing the game more than they enjoy being elitist bigots that want to emo out about everyone elses failings. Maybe its time that Red Box took a good hard look at themselves and their own pilots before pointing the finger elsewhere??? Everyone can be accused of being at fault for something. Its the general lack of compromise and willingness to work through these issues instead of creating drama behind the scenes that caused the problem. This is a game after all, and people can only mature in the game and learn from their mistakes when someone is willing to work with them and calmly get to the bottom of whats going on. Red Box is more inclined to go mental and emo rage and talk behind peoples backs and have all our drama brawls, which never resolve anything at all, that just causes more issues. I have heard certain DL and Surge members flip out plenty of times and die with some seriously fail fits on thier ships.... Do they get discplined, isolated or spoken to like utter crap? Please dont dive into hypocrasy here Lilith. You flew with Heretics for quite some time and you know damn well what they are like. You never seemed to have an issue with them then. Just the drama mongers in Red Box brainwashing people with their gossip seem to be the issue now. There are pilots in Heretics I know for a fact that could wipe the floor with most of the members left in Red Box, and recent engagements have proven just that. The issues with heretics that seemed to have been blamed on me were simply personal ego issues that have been drawn out of all proportion to make certain people like Seth etc feel better about the drama they have started and cant seem to back up with facts anymore. The stories are constantly changing now as to what the bottom line of the issues was....I do remember Seth saying it was me manipulating people?? Now its me sticking up for my pilots in heretics and maybe its me just being diplomatic is the issue.. At the time that Fear and I left the corp, it was me and Fear having a personal relationship with each other... So what is it really? Is there a definitive answer as to what the real issue is? Or shall we just agree with the fact that its a bunch of testosterone filled drama that has gotten out of hand for no good reason other than the fact that the mitigating parties in Red Box have backed themselves into a corner and really dont have a good reason at all for what they have done??? Oh wait.... yes they do.......It's called pathetic childish immaturity over an internet spaceship game they take way too seriously... Causing them to get completely personal over a real life relationship that is none of their god damn business.... ~* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit *~
Jones Bones Buckeye Industries	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:23:00 - [97] Wow this turned into an emo thread.
onegun Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:52:00 - [98] wow, tfs has alot of good members, but...........fear have u lost your mind, this chick lives on the other side of the world, u 2 have never even met. yet you tear your corp and allaince apart for this chick, lol. i know ive been out of game for a few weeks, and to come back and see all this stuff.......wow. seriously get a girlfriend u can touch, and an online game wont mean so much to you.
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:53:00 - [99] Originally by: Indignant Assault Finally one sniperpoc decides to set up shop off the gate without a decent celestial warp in.... /me grins..... I'm honored you mentioned my drunken loss. In fact, I'm honored by this entire thread. I was undocked for a while though, just on a different gate. However between Slackers and UAT and everyone else and feel the need to bring up every thing they can possibly sc** up, this thread really does seem like its a battle of the dim-witted quadriplegics trying to fight. Falcon Blob, long distance high school love, whine and complain on the forums, I mean can you seriously imagine two beings rolling around because they have no arms or legs? Not quite sure what happened, frustrations of sexual contact which are missing in your lives? Perhaps its the fat that gets in the way between your keyboard and your desk so you can't pleasure yourself. Whatever it is, has provided some quality material for vent. Originally by:** CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice.
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:54:00 - [100] Originally by: onegun wow, tfs has alot of good members, but...........fear have u lost your mind, this chick lives on the other side of the world, u 2 have never even met. yet you tear your corp and allaince apart for this chick, lol. i know ive been out of game for a few weeks, and to come back and see all this stuff.......wow. seriously get a girlfriend u can touch, and an online game wont mean so much to you. harlots are pretty cheap around here, dinner and a screw Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice.

Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated	Posted - 2009.01.26 03:09:00 - [101] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Righteous Fury I think we only had two falcons in our gang (not counting whatever locals showed up) that night your blob in Amamake got slapped around by our comedy battlecruiser gang. Maybe you should, well, learn2play? Hmm, there were 4 falcons fielded against our 10 ships, looking at the killboard again 2 of these are indeed not in Slackers. Looking closer at the killmails and lossmails, all 4 of these were fighting on your 'team' exclusively it seems. (On a side note, first time I ever saw someone using 'Legion ECM Spatial Destabilizer.) Dont get me wrong, I actually enjoyed the fight, only grudge I have with people like Slackers is they are too afraid to get in a real fight, always have enough ecm backup to completely take out the hostile gang or they wont engage. Now compare our fleet, outgunned and outnumbered against overwhelming hostile ecm we stood and fought instead of just warping off and let the pussies play with someone else. So you say l2play? I raise you grow a pair Oh Jesus, another "Pro" PvP group ****ing and moaning about "Real" fights. If you're so "Pro" at Eve you'll know that if you play Eve you accept everything that comes with it. Everyone has an even opportunity to have a Falcon alt and everyone has the opportunity to have 100 mates warp in and help them. If you play CS, you don't whinge about the AWP or the M3. If you play Eve, don't whinge about ships that are in the game. L2P GBTW Want 1v1? Team Fortress 2 is the place to be.
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 03:46:00 - [102] Originally by: onegun wow, tfs has alot of good members, but...........fear have u lost your mind, this chick lives on the other side of the world, u 2 have never even met. yet you tear your corp and allaince apart for this chick, lol. i know ive been out of game for a few weeks, and to come back and see all this stuff.......wow. seriously get a girlfriend u can touch, and an online game wont mean so much to you. I never tore up anything. TFS is alive and kicking, they're going to do what they're best at, being a single entity. They work best alone, that is how they got their name. They understand that my place is better served in UAT. We are both happy, that is all that matters to me. I ask you guys for the last time, to leave our relationship out of this. It has nothing to do with the situation and I'm officially requesting that CCP takes matters into their hands. It has no purpose in this thread and quite frankly its wrong. You people really have some insane issues. __________________ Built like a Rokh
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.26 04:01:00 - [103] Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I ask you guys for the last time, to leave our relationship out of this. It has nothing to do with the situation and I'm officially requesting that CCP takes matters into their hands. It has no purpose in this thread and quite frankly its wrong. You people really have some insane issues. Why are you even in this thread, aren't we supposed to be RABBLE RABBLE so and so can't fight without falcons? *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Ferocious FeAr Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.26 04:04:00 - [104] Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Ferocious FeAr I ask you guys for the last time, to leave our relationship out of this. It has nothing to do with the situation and I'm officially requesting that CCP takes matters into their hands. It has no purpose in this thread and quite frankly its wrong. You people really have some insane issues. Why are you even in this thread, aren't we supposed to be RABBLE RABBLE so and so can't fight without falcons? Because the thread was intended to flame Indig and I. __________________ Built like a Rokh
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.26 04:15:00 - [105] I believe there is an ammendment to the Yulai convention being put forward to Concord, banning the use of Falcons in fleet warfare due to the what is now being called by medical experts as "Slacker Industries syndrome". Symptoms include the utterance of phrases such as "we could have won, we just decided to kit the wrong ships because we are the best" and "you suck, ECM noobs". This very serious condition has also been known to lead to further health complications, also known as C&Pitis, the inflamation of the number of posts in certain sections of Galnet.
Voltic Gallente Southern Cross Incorporated	Posted - 2009.01.26 04:30:00 - [106] Looks like you guys should be playing GunBound, Not eve.
Kojee DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.26 04:48:00 - [107] Originally by: Camaris Edited by: Camaris on 25/01/2009 07:52:44...When we got back to the station on vent zach or (tal nok) and kojee from Death's legion got on vent rather intoxicated, and they decided to go camp the gate by themselve's why were in the lobby with them he mention that he was losing shields out of no where and he relized he was being killed by fear. So bravo on the drunk sniping apoc kill who though his ship was self destructing... Just to clarify this situation... 1. I was REALLY **ing drunk. I could barely read anything on my monitor. 2. I spent the whole time on vent, arguing with Tal Nok and calling him various explicit names, and also broadcasting some bodily function noises. 3. I didn't undock, because even in my insane drunkenness, I knew it was a bad idea. 4. I laughed my ass off when Zach got blown up, and I called him a stupid ** on vent. This whole thread is epic lulz... hence my contribution. ┌--------------------------------+º Kojee º½--------------------------------┐


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