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Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.30 23:07:00 -
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I still stand by the fact that these are new ship classes, not Tech 2, not elites or anything. Thus they should NOT require L5 <race> <ship class> skills.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.30 23:07:00 -
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I still stand by the fact that these are new ship classes, not Tech 2, not elites or anything. Thus they should NOT require L5 <race> <ship class> skills.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Vasq
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Posted - 2004.07.31 20:20:00 -
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yeah .. i have to agree with most of u in one way or another
battle cruisers will be, i think, an advanced crusier hence requiring lv5 crusier 
but destroyers will be a modified crusier to kill frigs, i think crusier lv4 will be right for this (but knowing ccp it will be lv5) also expect a sensor skill (or something similar) of lv4/5 because of the high locking speed of these ships ... or even a high tracking skill (because of the way it will be able to hit figs).. or even both
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Vasq
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Posted - 2004.07.31 20:20:00 -
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yeah .. i have to agree with most of u in one way or another
battle cruisers will be, i think, an advanced crusier hence requiring lv5 crusier
but destroyers will be a modified crusier to kill frigs, i think crusier lv4 will be right for this (but knowing ccp it will be lv5) also expect a sensor skill (or something similar) of lv4/5 because of the high locking speed of these ships ... or even a high tracking skill (because of the way it will be able to hit figs).. or even both
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.08.01 02:37:00 -
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 Originally by: ElricUK
what is the evidence to support that they are tech 1 ?
...what is the evidence to support that they are T2? 
...anyways on the page says NEW CLASSES, so my guess should be that they don't need lvl5 <insert spaceship class and race command skill related here>.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.08.01 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: ElricUK
what is the evidence to support that they are tech 1 ?
...what is the evidence to support that they are T2?
...anyways on the page says NEW CLASSES, so my guess should be that they don't need lvl5 <insert spaceship class and race command skill related here>.
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Feaux Tomai
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Posted - 2004.08.01 05:31:00 -
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I point you to http://curse.ca/evedbo/
Category: Ships
Group: Elite Cruiser
Based upon this database I would assume that they fall under the same category that elite ships do, being that they are manufactured using tech 2 components, however, looking at each individual cruiser you can see that they do not require cruiser 5, but anywhere ranging from 2 to 4. I think it would be safe to assume these ship attributes are likely to change, but for now it gives us a little glimpse as to what they will require.
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Feaux Tomai
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Posted - 2004.08.01 05:31:00 -
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I point you to http://curse.ca/evedbo/
Category: Ships
Group: Elite Cruiser
Based upon this database I would assume that they fall under the same category that elite ships do, being that they are manufactured using tech 2 components, however, looking at each individual cruiser you can see that they do not require cruiser 5, but anywhere ranging from 2 to 4. I think it would be safe to assume these ship attributes are likely to change, but for now it gives us a little glimpse as to what they will require.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.08.01 11:06:00 -
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Cruiser lvl 5 should be a mandatory requirement.
(says the person with only 8 days to go until Caldari cruiser lvl 5, heh). 
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.08.01 11:06:00 -
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Cruiser lvl 5 should be a mandatory requirement.
(says the person with only 8 days to go until Caldari cruiser lvl 5, heh).
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.08.01 21:36:00 -
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Ugh...they are NEW CLASSES. Not the Elite cruisers that CCP will be bringing in, ie the support cruisers.
They will/should/are/more-than-likely Tech 1 ships, meaning they should follow all other Tech 1 skill stuff.
The bigger something is with Tech 1, the more skills it requires. But since Battleships, something BIGGER than a Battlecruiser, requires only L4 cruiser, BC's should, in my mind, only require L3 cruiser, L4 max. NOT L5 cruiser, as they are NOT elites.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.08.01 21:36:00 -
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Ugh...they are NEW CLASSES. Not the Elite cruisers that CCP will be bringing in, ie the support cruisers.
They will/should/are/more-than-likely Tech 1 ships, meaning they should follow all other Tech 1 skill stuff.
The bigger something is with Tech 1, the more skills it requires. But since Battleships, something BIGGER than a Battlecruiser, requires only L4 cruiser, BC's should, in my mind, only require L3 cruiser, L4 max. NOT L5 cruiser, as they are NOT elites.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Hast
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Posted - 2004.08.02 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 02/08/2004 11:27:30
how about BS requires lvl4 Battlecruiser, so you just push it in between cruiser and BS... and same with Destroyer... It does mean that noone will be able to fly anything but a frig for a small week 
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Hast
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Posted - 2004.08.02 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 02/08/2004 11:27:30
how about BS requires lvl4 Battlecruiser, so you just push it in between cruiser and BS... and same with Destroyer... It does mean that noone will be able to fly anything but a frig for a small week
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.08.02 13:40:00 -
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New Class = Not Elites....as least that is what the descriptions say.....
Which is good...don't need any more money grubbing T2 Producers....
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.08.02 13:40:00 -
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New Class = Not Elites....as least that is what the descriptions say.....
Which is good...don't need any more money grubbing T2 Producers....
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.02 16:15:00 -
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They are elites. The XML shows it. Get over it people. Train your level 5 cruiser skill and stop it.
I guess you have two options. train level 5 cruiser or do not train level 5 cruiser. Whats the harm if you do and they dont need it. If they do and you did not then you will be waiting for it to complete and you will get your ship cheaper.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.02 16:15:00 -
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They are elites. The XML shows it. Get over it people. Train your level 5 cruiser skill and stop it.
I guess you have two options. train level 5 cruiser or do not train level 5 cruiser. Whats the harm if you do and they dont need it. If they do and you did not then you will be waiting for it to complete and you will get your ship cheaper.
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.08.02 17:03:00 -
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No. They are not elites. They are new classes. Not elite versions of existing cruisers. They are not Tech 2. They are Tech 1. They should not require L5 cruiser of any race.
And can you point us in the direction of this "XML" that is so kindly carved in cement about them being Elites?
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.08.02 17:03:00 -
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No. They are not elites. They are new classes. Not elite versions of existing cruisers. They are not Tech 2. They are Tech 1. They should not require L5 cruiser of any race.
And can you point us in the direction of this "XML" that is so kindly carved in cement about them being Elites?
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
Member of Metatron Incorporated |
Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.08.02 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
They are elites. The XML shows it. Get over it people. Train your level 5 cruiser skill and stop it.
I guess you have two options. train level 5 cruiser or do not train level 5 cruiser. Whats the harm if you do and they dont need it. If they do and you did not then you will be waiting for it to complete and you will get your ship cheaper.
Two diffrent things being talked about here...
Battle Cruisers and Destroyers are Tech 1 and NOT Elite....
requires ZERO T2 to build...BPO will be on regular everyday Market in larger numbers....not 2 for each ship...
Elite Cruisers are ELITE T2 Variants of olders T1 Ships... also, bombers, support, etc, are T2 at least from the forum SPAM I have read...Two BPO's each ship...blah blah..normal T2 crap...
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.08.02 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
They are elites. The XML shows it. Get over it people. Train your level 5 cruiser skill and stop it.
I guess you have two options. train level 5 cruiser or do not train level 5 cruiser. Whats the harm if you do and they dont need it. If they do and you did not then you will be waiting for it to complete and you will get your ship cheaper.
Two diffrent things being talked about here...
Battle Cruisers and Destroyers are Tech 1 and NOT Elite....
requires ZERO T2 to build...BPO will be on regular everyday Market in larger numbers....not 2 for each ship...
Elite Cruisers are ELITE T2 Variants of olders T1 Ships... also, bombers, support, etc, are T2 at least from the forum SPAM I have read...Two BPO's each ship...blah blah..normal T2 crap...
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2004.08.02 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Feaux Tomai
I point you to http://curse.ca/evedbo/
Category: Ships
Group: Elite Cruiser
Based upon this database I would assume that they fall under the same category that elite ships do, being that they are manufactured using tech 2 components, however, looking at each individual cruiser you can see that they do not require cruiser 5, but anywhere ranging from 2 to 4. I think it would be safe to assume these ship attributes are likely to change, but for now it gives us a little glimpse as to what they will require.
I don't know where this database comes from, but it's obviously someone's wish list as it shows under "elite cruisers" at least 3 different battlecruisers for amarr all based on the maller class. We have seen the amarr battle cruiser and it looks nothing like the maller. I also doubt there will be 3 or more battlecruisers for each race.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2004.08.02 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Feaux Tomai
I point you to http://curse.ca/evedbo/
Category: Ships
Group: Elite Cruiser
Based upon this database I would assume that they fall under the same category that elite ships do, being that they are manufactured using tech 2 components, however, looking at each individual cruiser you can see that they do not require cruiser 5, but anywhere ranging from 2 to 4. I think it would be safe to assume these ship attributes are likely to change, but for now it gives us a little glimpse as to what they will require.
I don't know where this database comes from, but it's obviously someone's wish list as it shows under "elite cruisers" at least 3 different battlecruisers for amarr all based on the maller class. We have seen the amarr battle cruiser and it looks nothing like the maller. I also doubt there will be 3 or more battlecruisers for each race.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.08.03 02:40:00 -
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They're adding another step between cruiser and battleship. cruisers cost between 2-9 mil, the cheapest battleship goes for 60-75 mil. They need something in the 20-40 mil range. Allowing new players to step up to a battleship rather then working for 1-2 months in a cruiser to get their battleship.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.08.03 02:40:00 -
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They're adding another step between cruiser and battleship. cruisers cost between 2-9 mil, the cheapest battleship goes for 60-75 mil. They need something in the 20-40 mil range. Allowing new players to step up to a battleship rather then working for 1-2 months in a cruiser to get their battleship.
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Hasdrubular
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Posted - 2004.08.03 07:07:00 -
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So, if this is a step in between Cruisers and BS dosn't this mean that any person flying a bs will need to train the bc skill. Just like you need frig, cruiser and bs skills to pilot a bs. (And BTW I thought they were small bs not big cruisers, doon't know if there is much in that but still).
I sense some major skill changes with regards to what relies on what to train higher levels. If my prediction is correct i hope thy rerlease the skill pre-deployment and give ppl plenty of warnings so they should be little annoyance on the forums.
Just my thoughts.
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Hasdrubular
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Posted - 2004.08.03 07:07:00 -
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So, if this is a step in between Cruisers and BS dosn't this mean that any person flying a bs will need to train the bc skill. Just like you need frig, cruiser and bs skills to pilot a bs. (And BTW I thought they were small bs not big cruisers, doon't know if there is much in that but still).
I sense some major skill changes with regards to what relies on what to train higher levels. If my prediction is correct i hope thy rerlease the skill pre-deployment and give ppl plenty of warnings so they should be little annoyance on the forums.
Just my thoughts.
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Venril
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Posted - 2004.08.03 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Feaux Tomai
I point you to http://curse.ca/evedbo/
Category: Ships
Group: Elite Cruiser
Based upon this database I would assume that they fall under the same category that elite ships do, being that they are manufactured using tech 2 components, however, looking at each individual cruiser you can see that they do not require cruiser 5, but anywhere ranging from 2 to 4. I think it would be safe to assume these ship attributes are likely to change, but for now it gives us a little glimpse as to what they will require.
This list is completely false.
Every single cruiser on it has a 3 launcher/3 turret slots.
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Venril
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Posted - 2004.08.03 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Feaux Tomai
I point you to http://curse.ca/evedbo/
Category: Ships
Group: Elite Cruiser
Based upon this database I would assume that they fall under the same category that elite ships do, being that they are manufactured using tech 2 components, however, looking at each individual cruiser you can see that they do not require cruiser 5, but anywhere ranging from 2 to 4. I think it would be safe to assume these ship attributes are likely to change, but for now it gives us a little glimpse as to what they will require.
This list is completely false.
Every single cruiser on it has a 3 launcher/3 turret slots.
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