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Kaaii
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:53:00 -
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Anyone have these, a link?
Im sure they are subject to change, but for now, im curious
thx in advance
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:53:00 -
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Anyone have these, a link?
Im sure they are subject to change, but for now, im curious
thx in advance
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:06:00 -
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From eve-i.com:
Battlecruisers (rank2) Spaceship Command III Escorts III
Escorts (rank 2) Spaceship Command I Engineering V
Then the ship will most likely take race cruiser lvl.5
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:06:00 -
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From eve-i.com:
Battlecruisers (rank2) Spaceship Command III Escorts III
Escorts (rank 2) Spaceship Command I Engineering V
Then the ship will most likely take race cruiser lvl.5
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Zinjan on 30/07/2004 12:08:52
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Zinjan on 30/07/2004 12:08:52
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:45:00 -
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The L5 cruiser doesn't make sense WHY it might be there. Battleships don't need L5, and they are bigger and badder than the Battlecruisers.
Battlecruisers are (apparently) Tech 1 ships, so I think they shouldn't need more than Cruiser L3 or L4 to be flown.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:45:00 -
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The L5 cruiser doesn't make sense WHY it might be there. Battleships don't need L5, and they are bigger and badder than the Battlecruisers.
Battlecruisers are (apparently) Tech 1 ships, so I think they shouldn't need more than Cruiser L3 or L4 to be flown.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

ElricUK
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:52:00 -
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what is the evidence to support that they are tech 1 ?
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:52:00 -
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what is the evidence to support that they are tech 1 ?
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.07.30 13:59:00 -
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Well impoved frigs need frig lvl 5 these are improved cruisers
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2004.07.30 13:59:00 -
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Well impoved frigs need frig lvl 5 these are improved cruisers
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.30 14:27:00 -
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i understood (dunno why) that battlecruisers and destroyers are new ship classes rather than elite versions of existing ones
hence they are tech 1 ships and will have their own skills:
frigate destroyer cruiser battlecruiser battleship
but then, this is just what i have infered from vague dev waffle ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.30 14:27:00 -
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i understood (dunno why) that battlecruisers and destroyers are new ship classes rather than elite versions of existing ones
hence they are tech 1 ships and will have their own skills:
frigate destroyer cruiser battlecruiser battleship
but then, this is just what i have infered from vague dev waffle ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.07.30 17:55:00 -
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Are the new books out yet (Escorts, Destroyers, BC's)?
I haven't checked lately under spaceship command 
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.07.30 17:55:00 -
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Are the new books out yet (Escorts, Destroyers, BC's)?
I haven't checked lately under spaceship command 
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Darwen
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:09:00 -
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I checked last night, so nope. -----------------------------------------------
You don't realize how fun mining is until you've depleted your millionth roid. Not that I've done that.  |

Darwen
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:09:00 -
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I checked last night, so nope. -----------------------------------------------
You don't realize how fun mining is until you've depleted your millionth roid. Not that I've done that.  |

Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:15:00 -
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Was hoping they would let us train before the ships were released....guess not...but we still have some time left...so maybe
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:15:00 -
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Was hoping they would let us train before the ships were released....guess not...but we still have some time left...so maybe
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:25:00 -
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They best not take cruiser 5. Frigate 5 was somewhat acceptable because it only takes around 12 days. while cruiser 5 would consume 25+ days to train up.
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:25:00 -
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They best not take cruiser 5. Frigate 5 was somewhat acceptable because it only takes around 12 days. while cruiser 5 would consume 25+ days to train up.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:30:00 -
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The battlecruisers and destroyers are new ship classes. It has been said many times by the devs and this is what they intended to do from the beginning.
Linkage This is the shiva ships page, notice the first three words you see are "New Ship Classes", not elite or t2.
As for skill requirements, they haven't been officially posted, but these are my educated guesses:
Destroyers: Spaceship Command lvl 2, (Race) Frigate lvl 4 Battlecruisers: Spaceship Comand lvl 4, (Race) Cruiser lvl 4
And I think that the spaceship command req. for battlships should be changed to lvl 5. Thay way it would be a steady progression. Frigate-1 Destroyer-2 Cruiser-3 Battlecruiser-4 Battleship-5
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2004.07.30 19:30:00 -
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The battlecruisers and destroyers are new ship classes. It has been said many times by the devs and this is what they intended to do from the beginning.
Linkage This is the shiva ships page, notice the first three words you see are "New Ship Classes", not elite or t2.
As for skill requirements, they haven't been officially posted, but these are my educated guesses:
Destroyers: Spaceship Command lvl 2, (Race) Frigate lvl 4 Battlecruisers: Spaceship Comand lvl 4, (Race) Cruiser lvl 4
And I think that the spaceship command req. for battlships should be changed to lvl 5. Thay way it would be a steady progression. Frigate-1 Destroyer-2 Cruiser-3 Battlecruiser-4 Battleship-5
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S'Jet
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Posted - 2004.07.30 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Vigilant Are the new books out yet (Escorts, Destroyers, BC's)?
I haven't checked lately under spaceship command 
Vigilat the skills book you are ask about (Escor skills) is already out. its use to be called the
Defense Coordinator Rank : 2 AP : n/a Pri attribute : Willpower Sec attribute : Charisma TTM : 2x Req : Leadership lvl 2
Desc : Skill in Group Defensive Operations
Bonus : +2% gang shield if max in skill in the gang
and CCP rename it to Escort Tactics.
Escort Tactics Skills + Leadership Skill in Coordinating a gangs Defenses.+2% gang shield Capacity per level.
Only the bonus of the Gang Member with the highest level in the skill is used. EFFECTS Training time multiplier 2 x shield Capacity Bonus 2 % STRUCTURE volume 0.01 m3 SKILL ATTRIBUTES Primary attribute Willpower Secondary attribute Charisma REQUIRED SKILLS Primary Skill required Leadership II
The only skill books use should be look out for, will be BATTLECRUISER AND DESTROYER SKILL BOOKS.
"Here's everything I know about war: Somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same again." |

S'Jet
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Posted - 2004.07.30 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Vigilant Are the new books out yet (Escorts, Destroyers, BC's)?
I haven't checked lately under spaceship command 
Vigilat the skills book you are ask about (Escor skills) is already out. its use to be called the
Defense Coordinator Rank : 2 AP : n/a Pri attribute : Willpower Sec attribute : Charisma TTM : 2x Req : Leadership lvl 2
Desc : Skill in Group Defensive Operations
Bonus : +2% gang shield if max in skill in the gang
and CCP rename it to Escort Tactics.
Escort Tactics Skills + Leadership Skill in Coordinating a gangs Defenses.+2% gang shield Capacity per level.
Only the bonus of the Gang Member with the highest level in the skill is used. EFFECTS Training time multiplier 2 x shield Capacity Bonus 2 % STRUCTURE volume 0.01 m3 SKILL ATTRIBUTES Primary attribute Willpower Secondary attribute Charisma REQUIRED SKILLS Primary Skill required Leadership II
The only skill books use should be look out for, will be BATTLECRUISER AND DESTROYER SKILL BOOKS.
"Here's everything I know about war: Somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same again." |

Zinjan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 22:34:00 -
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Since the other skills are quite easy to do - my guees is actually lvl.4 Cruiser
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 22:34:00 -
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Since the other skills are quite easy to do - my guees is actually lvl.4 Cruiser
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.30 22:45:00 -
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S'Jet that's a completely different skill.
Engineering isn't set in stone either.
To be on the safe side I've got cruiser lvl5 for my preferred races cruisers. Only 32 days to train. :D ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.30 22:45:00 -
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S'Jet that's a completely different skill.
Engineering isn't set in stone either.
To be on the safe side I've got cruiser lvl5 for my preferred races cruisers. Only 32 days to train. :D ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
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