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Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 29	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:19:00 - [1] - Quote Metrics I have noticed that measure the decline of Eve. 1. Market activity declining - Jita actually more expensive for items than other systems (Rens) 2. Player counts dropping 3. Ability to type a full sentence in Jita before the window scrolls. 4. Free AUR handed out like candy 5. PLEX bulk offers (overpriced) desperation bundles 6. Local trolling non existent, even the rats jumped ship What have you noticed as a metric that shows Eve is in decline?
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen 28	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:23:00 - [2] - Quote Posting quality is in decline.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 29	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:24:00 - [3] - Quote Soi Mala wrote: Posting quality is in decline. Yes that's another thing I noticed, the forums threads have slowed up too.
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:29:00 - [4] - Quote prominent figures in the community leaving... like t amber or akita t or someone with a A and T in their name i forget who it was.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. 5	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:36:00 - [5] - Quote I log in at very random times across the 23 hour up time and I see a drop off in server population that is around 10k for what I regularly saw as an average. The inflation iis something that is needed and is a result of the isk faucet slowing down as numerous alts are no longer loggin in grinding isk, moving stuff, building stuff, etc. Of course this is all speculation on my part and my opinion could be completely over or underestimated. Slade
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 35	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:37:00 - [6] - Quote Estel leaving.
Baralosus Crimson Empire. 2	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:39:00 - [7] - Quote Miilla wrote: Metrics I have noticed that measure the decline of Eve. 1. Market activity declining - Jita actually more expensive for items than other systems (Rens) 2. Player counts dropping 3. Ability to type a full sentence in Jita before the window scrolls. 4. Free AUR handed out like candy 5. PLEX bulk offers (overpriced) desperation bundles 6. Local trolling non existent, even the rats jumped ship What have you noticed as a metric that shows Eve is in decline? 1. Prices fluctuate over time. They rise and fall. Some items are more expensive than others. And Jita hasn't been the cheapest place to buy stuff from the market. 2. Define player count: active subscriptions, people logged on Tranquility, botters botting, physical people playing vs number of alts they are running, etc. 3. This doesn't necessarily mean that Eve is dying. Perhaps at one moment, a lot of people happened to be afk or had their attention shifted somewhere else instead of spamming the local chat with garbage outdated scams. 4. Can I has your Aurum? 5. Desperate? Maybe. Got any supporting info to back up this claim? 6. Trolls are everywhere. Just don't feed them.
Cipher Jones 43	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:39:00 - [8] - Quote Miilla wrote: Metrics I have noticed that measure the decline of Eve. 1. Market activity declining - Jita actually more expensive for items than other systems (Rens) 2. Player counts dropping 3. Ability to type a full sentence in Jita before the window scrolls. 4. Free AUR handed out like candy 5. PLEX bulk offers (overpriced) desperation bundles 6. Local trolling non existent, even the rats jumped ship What have you noticed as a metric that shows Eve is in decline? I noticed that i can ignore asshats like you both in game and in forums now. Goodbye forever *******. See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die.
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 30	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:45:00 - [9] - Quote Baralosus wrote: 6. Trolls are everywhere. Just don't feed them. FEED ME SEYMORE !!!!!!!
Bane Necran 32	Posted - 2011.09.13 14:50:00 - [10] - Quote Rens has always been cheaper, or at least competitive with Jita. In Jita you've got more 'career' salesmen, who regularly buy up all of something just to jack the price up. In Rens that still happens, of course, but not so often.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 29	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:07:00 - [11] - Quote Rens has not always been cheaper :) Especially when I am there. I actually buy up all the items in Rens and jack up the prices there. Jita has slowed down and risen in price. Market activity has declined noticeably that it takes now longer to sell items that would be gone fast.
Bane Necran 32	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:21:00 - [12] - Quote There was an across the board drop in sales that coincided with the last wave of bot bans and continues to this day. It's my belief the drop in sale is the result of removing market bots, but there are many other theories, the most predictable of them being "EVE is dying!!one1!"
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate 61	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:27:00 - [13] - Quote Conclusion: "EVE is in good condicion" And wait till winter, atm we still have summer(if that has any effect in you humble opinion)
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 30	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:29:00 - [14] - Quote Winter yeah, thats the patch they nerf the popular ships, also when they dump out 700mb x 3 for the new capitans closets for the other 3 races.
Signal11th 21	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:33:00 - [15] - Quote I wouldn't say EVE is dying more like EVE is stagnating at the moment also the PLEX offer did come across as desperate even if it isn't. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster.
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen 28	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:34:00 - [16] - Quote I hardly log on anymore, not because of incarna (at least, i'm not protesting or anything), i just really am not interested anymore. Guess i've just burned out, tried everything and now i'm bored. I've been playing solidly since march 2007, and i mean solidly, so i guess as far as games go eve has served me well. :) On the rare occasion i log in to catch up with mates etc, i have been noticing the number of people logged in has declined from an average 40-45k on weekdays, and 50k+ on weekends in my timezone, to roughly 10k less on any day. This can be put down to botters being banned i guess, but likely not, since CCP made a big PR campaign about UNHOLY RAAAAAAGE LOOK GUYS WE BANNED ~2K BOTS, you'd think they'd be all over the place giving themselves public pats on the back and circlejerking about their awesomeness after dealing with 10k bots, or even another 2k for that matter. But they aren't. So, it's most likely down to less alts being logged in. This speaks volumes in itself about the poor quality of the client, and carries with it far reaching economic effects. How drastic those effects will be, we can only speculate, but one thing is for sure - Whether its through bans, unhappiness, or just inability to run the client, a lot less people are logging on, and it WILL effect the game, and the value of isk, isk is now tied to plex, and plex means dorrah for CCP. Eves economy, the core of the game, is in a shakey state at the moment.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 30	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:37:00 - [17] - Quote Well whatever CCP does, this year is 2011, a lot of new games are comming out, if the Winter patch doesn't make it more fun, which it won't, it is simply more nerfs and more capitans closets and large patches, that is their last chance really. I am playing out my isk as gametime, yearly sub cancelled, currently I have more isk for gametime than eve has lifetime, and my isk is always going up. No new money from me, that goes to the new 2011 MMO's and Games, and telescopes and accessories :)
Myxx Atropos Group 48	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:37:00 - [18] - Quote the fact that I can do everything I need to through the mail interface in EVEGate more or less lately. I only log in to switch skills and a few other things. This is actually not a bad thing, imo, and may work to my advantage in a couple months.
Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:43:00 - [19] - Quote All i know is im not going to pay or take the time to make isk to keep my accounts active when i have to pay for a swtor sub,buy bf3,D3,gw2. Things need to be done that actually improve fun in this game.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 30	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:44:00 - [20] - Quote Winter patch, the last (lost) hope :)
Kinta Huron Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2011.09.13 15:56:00 - [21] - Quote Speaking for myself, I lost my Maelstrom in a lvl4 which was my only mission ship and have zero isk so I've been in limbo for almost 3 months now. I still pay and log in to change skills though because I'm addicted to my characters personal progress.
Sir HappyPants Phantom Squad Atlas. 1	Posted - 2011.09.13 16:02:00 - [22] - Quote I used to have two clients running whenever I was playing. Now, with the changes since Incarna, I can no longer run two clients on my machine. Even with the station environment turned off. So I cancelled one of my accounts and waiting to see about the winter expansion for my remaining accounts. The multiple client nerf (I'm calling it a nerf) is significant imo. A lot of the logged on population might have been semi-afk market players while running missions/fleets/whatever on another client. If it becomes more difficult to run multiple clients on a single machine, then less pilots will be logged in at any given moment. Also, Incarna is a failure. Member of the #TweetFleet@thisurlnotfound
Four OfThree School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.09.13 16:04:00 - [23] - Quote I doubt eve will die - as hard as CCP management is trying to alienate its core player base and destroy it's own creation Eve is still basically the same. I can agree with the poster that estimated fewer players online at any given time - thats hard to ignore . It is a fact staring at you every time you open the client. I can also point to a fact that the website that tracks the top ten ISK sellers and graphs the average price has an interesting graph showing the real money cost of buying ISK has plumeted in the last 3 months. Players buy isk - not bots, not RMTers. If demand is that far down it's because players aren't playing. I can't post a link because this would get pulled but if you want to check the price drop graph of the top 10 ISK sellers since Incarna think mmo and bux (as in slang for bucks - money).
Swooshie USA Canada Private Corp 11	Posted - 2011.09.13 16:27:00 - [24] - Quote One thing is missing to make me believe that EVE is dying : Panic reactions/last minute attempts to please players, from CCP. What is voiced here alot is the alledged lack of concrete actions to correct situations brought up by the players and/or their representants (CSM) hence, leading to player quitting, leading to EVE dying. If the situation was like so, then it would be logical to think CCP would act on these grounds and fast unless it has decided to let go of EVE which is totally unrealistic since they have no way to confirm how good their next titles will do. In short (tl;dr) ; the moment we see CCP in a hurry to accomodate the most player requests as fast as possible, then it will probably be time to panic and call for doomsday. Simetraz wrote: Baralosus wrote: 6. Trolls are everywhere. Just don't feed them. FEED ME SEYMORE !!!!!!! +1 for the "little shop of horror" reference. Truly a classic!
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. 5	Posted - 2011.09.13 16:34:00 - [25] - Quote Four OfThree wrote: I doubt eve will die - as hard as CCP management is trying to alienate its core player base and destroy it's own creation Eve is still basically the same. I can agree with the poster that estimated fewer players online at any given time - thats hard to ignore . It is a fact staring at you every time you open the client. I can also point to a fact that the website that tracks the top ten ISK sellers and graphs the average price has an interesting graph showing the real money cost of buying ISK has plumeted in the last 3 months. Players buy isk - not bots, not RMTers. If demand is that far down it's because players aren't playing. I can't post a link because this would get pulled but if you want to check the price drop graph of the top 10 ISK sellers since Incarna think mmo and bux (as in slang for bucks - money). If this is true, "IF", then what CCP is doing is actually cleaning up the game But I can not stress the if enough. Slade
Diomedes Calypso Aetolian Armada 11	Posted - 2011.09.13 16:34:00 - [26] - Quote Four OfThree wrote: I doubt eve will die - as hard as CCP management is trying to alienate its core player base and destroy it's own creation Eve is still basically the same. I can agree with the poster that estimated fewer players online at any given time - thats hard to ignore . It is a fact staring at you every time you open the client. I can also point to a fact that the website that tracks the top ten ISK sellers and graphs the average price has an interesting graph showing the real money cost of buying ISK has plumeted in the last 3 months. Players buy isk - not bots, not RMTers. If demand is that far down it's because players aren't playing. I can't post a link because this would get pulled but if you want to check the price drop graph of the top 10 ISK sellers since Incarna think mmo and bux (as in slang for bucks - money). I havn't seen those sites tracking rmt and i'm wary about going anywhere close (even a step away) from those sites for fear of key loggers (i'm not technically adept to feel confident blocking or repairing such stuff) BUT ISK price on the RMT isn't only demand driven ... like all markets the supply is half the picture. I can certainly imagine the supply of isk for sale dramatically rising as the players leaving in disgust are probably disproportionately longer term players and longer term players have a disproportional number of huges stores of ISK wealth. I don't think most long temr players would use such sites.... but even if it was only 1 in 10, if you have 20 people leaving instead of 10 you have twice as much isk from players trying to be liquidated. The RMT companies wouldn't have to have chinese laborers farm as much so there'd be some limit, but still the pressure could be large What many long term players with huge fortunes might do would be to give some of their isk or just a few ships etc to players still interested in the game who would have other wise used $ to buy ISK even if its just a dozen fully fit battleships thats a handful less purchases. Most people with huge fortunes would proabably just leave their accounts behind with the isk in them....yet those that took the other options could still have an effect. That sort of thing could mean that the drop in $ to isk didn't point to a loss in players.. just higher supply and more demand being filled by other means (gifts)
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen 31	Posted - 2011.09.13 17:00:00 - [27] - Quote Miilla wrote: telescopes and accessories :) Sweet, saving up for the same at the mo, nothing too pricey, since it is a new hobby of mine :P
Infinitio Krystallos Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2011.09.13 17:15:00 - [28] - Quote When the server crashed last week and had ONLY a 3 minute reboot. 26,000 had been on, and after reboot only 12,000 came back and it took 10 hours till DT for it to CREAP up to 25,000. I refuse to believe that 14,000 Players got the 'give-ups' after 3 minutes. That tells me it was 12,000 people PLAYING and 14,000 BOTTING. There's a Metric fer ya.
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen 31	Posted - 2011.09.13 17:19:00 - [29] - Quote Either that or people have come to expect CCP's special GUYS IT'L BE BACK ANY MINUTE NOW 3 hours later NEARLY DONE GUYS I'm the same, whenever servers go down for more than an "oopsie, starting up again", i just resign myself to the fact it'l be ****** for hours.
Hicksimus Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company 18	Posted - 2011.09.13 17:24:00 - [30] - Quote The number of offline faction towers in highsec is huge giving me a long list of boring things to shoot. It also indicated players with a level of dedication above casual mission runner know what's going on and are taking their $ elsewhere.
Four OfThree School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.09.13 17:33:00 - [31] - Quote To this The number of offline faction towers in highsec is huge giving me a long list of boring things to shoot. It also indicated players with a level of dedication above casual mission runner know what's going on and are taking their $ elsewhere. I'm known to be a drama queen but that is what is scary about what's happening to eve....the best and brightest are leaving the country for greener pasteurs.
Abrazzar 97	Posted - 2011.09.13 17:36:00 - [32] - Quote I noticed a price increase for PI POS fuel. Not by much, so I guess some people are merely reducing the number of their alt accounts. Or it's the lack of faction towers that increase the overall fuel consumption. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Anista Aivoras School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.09.13 23:15:00 - [33] - Quote Do you guys actually bother to read the quarterly news letter they release it actually answers a lot of the questions your all quessing about. Lol
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 150	Posted - 2011.09.13 23:20:00 - [34] - Quote Anista Aivoras wrote: Do you guys actually bother to read the quarterly news letter they release it actually answers a lot of the questions your all quessing about. Lol You mean the newsletter they (not so) recently decided not to release any more and instead turn into a yearly one (which may or may not include the metrics we used to get)? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Meryl SinGarda Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team 115	Posted - 2011.09.13 23:40:00 - [35] - Quote Miilla wrote: Metrics I have noticed that measure the decline of Eve. 1. Market activity declining - Jita actually more expensive for items than other systems (Rens) 2. Player counts dropping 3. Ability to type a full sentence in Jita before the window scrolls. 4. Free AUR handed out like candy 5. PLEX bulk offers (overpriced) desperation bundles 6. Local trolling non existent, even the rats jumped ship What have you noticed as a metric that shows Eve is in decline? Sounds more to me like the undesirables finally left. Fly Safe, Die Hard
Large Collidable Object morons. Interstellar Hobos 174	Posted - 2011.09.13 23:57:00 - [36] - Quote Four OfThree wrote: Eve is still basically the same. Partially - on one hand though, they introduced tons of new bugs that make it to inconvenient to play. I'm not very fond of logging in and losing a full highgrade set to sluggish UI responsivity - neither do I want to triple-check if all my skills and modules are applied correctly, if any modules are offline etc... On the other hand, Eve basically being the same is part of the problem - during the majority of the past 6 years, there has always been some changes to adapt to, a new FOTM to train for, new content to explore, but the last few expansions were rather stale. We had PI, but despite liking builder games like civ, I thought it was so poorly implemented it didn't catch my interest - then there were Incursions, which were fun for a week (although more for the idiots warping their pimped golems into there solo and looting them later), but after that, became a mindless, boring grind for isk with the same, repetitive sites over and over again, which I fortunately don't have to do. Then there was Incarna - no content at all, introducing above bugs, NeX and the door... Apocrypha was the last good expansion released, but that's 2.5 years old - and I say that as someone who isn't really into wormholes... Well - just as others, I just log in to train skills, using up my isk for plex - either they release something interesting within the next three years or I'll just quit then... But yeah - had good times with eve and can't say having played another single game for that long... morons are recruiting. You know who you are!
Ira Theos Viziam Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2011.09.14 02:05:00 - [37] - Quote Miilla wrote: Well whatever CCP does, this year is 2011, a lot of new games are comming out, if the Winter patch doesn't make it more fun, which it won't, it is simply more nerfs and more capitans closets and large patches, that is their last chance really. I am playing out my isk as gametime, yearly sub cancelled, currently I have more isk for gametime than eve has lifetime, and my isk is always going up. No new money from me, that goes to the new 2011 MMO's and Games, and telescopes and accessories :) **************** Miilla? Are you sure we are not Alts for each other? Our situation mirrors each other. It's a shame isn't it... I mean about EVE.
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2011.09.14 02:39:00 - [38] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: Four OfThree wrote: Eve is still basically the same. Partially - on one hand though, they introduced tons of new bugs that make it to inconvenient to play. I'm not very fond of logging in and losing a full highgrade set to sluggish UI responsivity - neither do I want to triple-check if all my skills and modules are applied correctly, if any modules are offline etc... On the other hand, Eve basically being the same is part of the problem - during the majority of the past 6 years, there has always been some changes to adapt to, a new FOTM to train for, new content to explore, but the last few expansions were rather stale. We had PI, but despite liking builder games like civ, I thought it was so poorly implemented it didn't catch my interest - then there were Incursions, which were fun for a week (although more for the idiots warping their pimped golems into there solo and looting them later), but after that, became a mindless, boring grind for isk with the same, repetitive sites over and over again, which I fortunately don't have to do. Then there was Incarna - no content at all, introducing above bugs, NeX and the door... Apocrypha was the last good expansion released, but that's 2.5 years old - and I say that as someone who isn't really into wormholes... Well - just as others, I just log in to train skills, using up my isk for plex - either they release something interesting within the next three years or I'll just quit then... But yeah - had good times with eve and can't say having played another single game for that long... Kind of have to agree with LCO there. Cept the WH part. Pretty much it's the only aspect of the game keeping me here. Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the f**ked up lighting and all. But, anyway, I'm getting ready to pick up a new hobby once I complete my research and planning and then, who knows? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Indeira Leinholder Angels of Achura 1	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:05:00 - [39] - Quote Mr Kidd wrote: Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the f**ked up lighting and all. Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... reported for hate speech and profanity
Large Collidable Object morons. Interstellar Hobos 175	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:16:00 - [40] - Quote Indeira Leinholder wrote: Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... No I'm not - actually I want Mr kidds babies - just imagine - they'd take over TQ! And yeah - as I said - I kinda liked apocrypha and would probably do wh stuff myself if I was in in need of isk... morons are recruiting. You know who you are!
Kno Bodeesbitch Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:27:00 - [41] - Quote Indeira Leinholder wrote: Mr Kidd wrote: Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the fked up lighting and all. Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... reported for hate speech and profanity I think Kidd reported two people, including Indeira, earlier for calling him ugly. I can't find the posts but I remember reading them so I guess a moderator removed them... @Kidd, I can't believe you actually reported a person and then did the same thing several hours later...I would call you a hypocrite but I don't want to be reported. DO NOT report me! I am NOT calling you a hypocrite! I said I was thinking** of calling you a HYPOCRITE, but I wont go through with it because you have a history of reporting people and I don't want to break any rules. Again for the record you are not now nor have you ever been a hypocrite as far as I am concerned.
Large Collidable Object morons. Interstellar Hobos 193	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:31:00 - [42] - Quote Kno Bodeesbitch wrote: Indeira Leinholder wrote: Mr Kidd wrote: Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the fked up lighting and all. Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... reported for hate speech and profanity I think Kidd reported two people, including Indeira, earlier for calling him ugly. I can't find the posts but I remember reading them so I guess a moderator removed them... @Kidd, I can't believe you actually reported a person and then did the same thing several hours later...I would call you a hypocrite but I don't want to be reported. DO NOT report me! I am NOT calling you a hypocrite! I said I was thinking** of calling you a HYPOCRITE, but I wont go through with it because you have a history of reporting people and I don't want to break any rules. Again for the record you are not now nor have you ever been a hypocrite as far as I am concerned. shhh - we're making love.... morons are recruiting. You know who you are!
Kno Bodeesbitch Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:39:00 - [43] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: Kno Bodeesbitch wrote: Indeira Leinholder wrote: Mr Kidd wrote: Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the fked up lighting and all. Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... reported for hate speech and profanity I think Kidd reported two people, including Indeira, earlier for calling him ugly. I can't find the posts but I remember reading them so I guess a moderator removed them... @Kidd, I can't believe you actually reported a person and then did the same thing several hours later...I would call you a hypocrite but I don't want to be reported. DO NOT report me! I am NOT calling you a hypocrite! I said I was thinking** of calling you a HYPOCRITE, but I wont go through with it because you have a history of reporting people and I don't want to break any rules. Again for the record you are not now nor have you ever been a hypocrite as far as I am concerned. shhh - we're making love.... Going to head to the pharmacy for some anti-nausea meds..please continue this has nothing to do with you...brb...
Large Collidable Object morons. Interstellar Hobos 193	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:46:00 - [44] - Quote It's called antiemetic... OH YES - KIDD YOU STUD...OOOOHHH...AAAAHHH...COLLIDE HARDER! morons are recruiting. You know who you are!
Kno Bodeesbitch Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:49:00 - [45] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: It's called antiemetic... Yes...just got back...unfortunately the tech told me that under the circumstances there simply isn't one strong enough to address the symptoms....
Mr M Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 5	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:50:00 - [46] - Quote Oh yeah, you guys remember how Eve died when Star Wars Galaxies came out? Or how [Star Trek Online/Jump Gate 2/Infinity: The Quest For Earth] became the ultimate Eve Online killer? Maybe, just maybe, people are busy working at the moment. I mean WoW lost 300k subscribers. Write for the Eve Tribune
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:52:00 - [47] - Quote Kno Bodeesbitch wrote: Indeira Leinholder wrote: Mr Kidd wrote: Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the fked up lighting and all. Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... reported for hate speech and profanity I think Kidd reported two people, including Indeira, earlier for calling him ugly. I can't find the posts but I remember reading them so I guess a moderator removed them... @Kidd, I can't believe you actually reported a person and then did the same thing several hours later...I would call you a hypocrite but I don't want to be reported. DO NOT report me! I am NOT calling you a hypocrite! I said I was thinking** of calling you a HYPOCRITE, but I wont go through with it because you have a history of reporting people and I don't want to break any rules. Again for the record you are not now nor have you ever been a hypocrite as far as I am concerned. Reported to the thought police. LCO, comere baby! Say, I bought you a new hat. Don't worry it's supposed to cover your face. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Asuka Smith Royal Black Watch Highlanders 0	Posted - 2011.09.14 03:57:00 - [48] - Quote The main thing I see declining is my desire to come to these horrible new forums to read the horrible old posts.
Kno Bodeesbitch Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2011.09.14 04:01:00 - [49] - Quote Mr Kidd wrote: Kno Bodeesbitch wrote: Indeira Leinholder wrote: Mr Kidd wrote: Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the fked up lighting and all. Let's keep it civil shall we. LCO is entitled to respect.... reported for hate speech and profanity I think Kidd reported two people, including Indeira, earlier for calling him ugly. I can't find the posts but I remember reading them so I guess a moderator removed them... @Kidd, I can't believe you actually reported a person and then did the same thing several hours later...I would call you a hypocrite but I don't want to be reported. DO NOT report me! I am NOT calling you a hypocrite! I said I was thinking** of calling you a HYPOCRITE, but I wont go through with it because you have a history of reporting people and I don't want to break any rules. Again for the record you are not now nor have you ever been a hypocrite as far as I am concerned. Reported to the thought police. LCO, comere baby! Say, I bought you a new hat. Don't worry it's supposed to cover your face. I like it! You just keep reporting away! I would engage, but since you are very thin-skinned I don't want to cause you to have to stretch your mouse hand on over to the flag...have fun guys. Named and shamed...my work is done...
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 2	Posted - 2011.09.14 04:03:00 - [50] - Quote This explains why I can drop into a serpentis hideout or some other lowly complex and not find a Tengu farming it.
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2011.09.14 04:05:00 - [51] - Quote Miilla wrote: Well whatever CCP does, this year is 2011, a lot of new games are comming out, if the Winter patch doesn't make it more fun, which it won't, it is simply more nerfs and more capitans closets and large patches, that is their last chance really. I am playing out my isk as gametime, yearly sub cancelled, currently I have more isk for gametime than eve has lifetime, and my isk is always going up. No new money from me, that goes to the new 2011 MMO's and Games, and telescopes and accessories :) wait i think i remember you when your main said you were unsubbing in a year... did not care then and dont care now... i am having a blast in roaming pvp in pirate 0.0 space... so screw it left side to right for all i care... how about instead of waisting your time with plex for time go fit some ships and loose them in a blaze of gloary atleast then i would care more then a year of b&t(H fest
Large Collidable Object morons. Interstellar Hobos 193	Posted - 2011.09.14 04:08:00 - [52] - Quote Mr Kidd wrote: LCO, comere baby! Say, I bought you a new hat. Don't worry it's supposed to cover your face. Why thank you! Bought a beer crate to put on your face (I'm on top). Kno - try Tropisetron... Now let's get going and shut up... morons are recruiting. You know who you are!
Triggadex Black Dawn Merchant Industries 5	Posted - 2011.09.14 05:02:00 - [53] - Quote Infinitio Krystallos wrote: When the server crashed last week and had ONLY a 3 minute reboot. 26,000 had been on, and after reboot only 12,000 came back and it took 10 hours till DT for it to CREAP up to 25,000. I refuse to believe that 14,000 Players got the 'give-ups' after 3 minutes. That tells me it was 12,000 people PLAYING and 14,000 BOTTING. There's a Metric fer ya. Or it was the 14,000 that said "Yea i really should got to bed" CCP Guard's Day \| Wake up --- Make Coffee --- Read and Reply on forums for 7 hrs --- Have meeting --- Sleep on couch in Office
Tyrnaeg en Varche 29	Posted - 2011.09.14 05:39:00 - [54] - Quote Sir HappyPants wrote: I used to have two clients running whenever I was playing. Now, with the changes since Incarna, I can no longer run two clients on my machine. Even with the station environment turned off. So I cancelled one of my accounts and waiting to see about the winter expansion for my remaining accounts. The multiple client nerf (I'm calling it a nerf) is significant imo. A lot of the logged on population might have been semi-afk market players while running missions/fleets/whatever on another client. If it becomes more difficult to run multiple clients on a single machine, then less pilots will be logged in at any given moment. Also, Incarna is a failure. I used to run two accounts too, then when everybody was raging about poor performance in Incarna I dropped all rgaphics to low and used interval 3 to keep the clients running. After a while, i thought, wtf - let's try this : and i changed graphics back to med/high detail. Guess what, two clients run fine, 60FPS each. So, bottomline is: you want two clients? Get a box like mine (Core2Duo@2900, 2GB Ram, 9600 nVidia). See? Not very hard to get a box like that, is it?
Psychophantic 26	Posted - 2011.09.14 05:42:00 - [55] - Quote EVE is dying. So are you. Every minute of every day.
Triggadex Black Dawn Merchant Industries 5	Posted - 2011.09.14 05:50:00 - [56] - Quote Tyrnaeg en Varche wrote: Get a box like mine (Core2Duo@2900, 2GB Ram, 9600 nVidia). See? Not very hard to get a box like that, is it? Let me just go get my old one out of the trash. CCP Guard's Day \| Wake up --- Make Coffee --- Read and Reply on forums for 7 hrs --- Have meeting --- Sleep on couch in Office
Tyrnaeg en Varche 29	Posted - 2011.09.14 05:58:00 - [57] - Quote Triggadex wrote: Tyrnaeg en Varche wrote: Get a box like mine (Core2Duo@2900, 2GB Ram, 9600 nVidia). See? Not very hard to get a box like that, is it? Let me just go get my old one out of the trash. lol, exactly my point mate - this box can run two clients, so what do the people complaining use to run TWO CLIENTS? and what do they expect with worse boxes than this?
BalderAsir Dark Star Horizons 0	Posted - 2011.09.14 06:09:00 - [58] - Quote It has happened before and it will happen again, your gain players, you lose players, but at the end of the day, Eve isn't headed backwards, its still steadly gaining popularity. Yes CCP are annoying with their one track mind to release new features rather than address existing problems, but be thankful these problems aren't major enough to drive people away. I used to play DarkSpace, that died a quick death, still has a few people around, but nothing like the old days
carnivore2k4 PROJECT DEEPSPACE 0	Posted - 2011.09.14 06:23:00 - [59] - Quote Self-fulfilling prophecy anyone? Let's talk it dead until it's dead. The new player experience has actually improved a lot in the last 1.5 years. The game itself hasn't really changed at all in the same time. It still provides enough things to do to keep people busy for a year or two or even longer until they have seen and done everything that can be seen and done. And I can't really understand how anyone can expect a game to be continually interesting for half a decade or more... The only things that indeed kills this games are **** lag protests, *** annoying "we are all doomed" threads, constant whiny complaints, complete lack of constructive or at least somewhat reasonable criticism and the whole negative propaganda that comes along, all generated by a good part of YOU. CCP might have handed out knives, but you are the ones stabbing the game over and over with it. Four OfThree wrote:** I'm known to be a drama queen but that is what is scary about what's happening to eve....the best and brightest are leaving the country for greener pasteurs. Truly... all hope is lost if this were true.
clamslayer Aliastra Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.09.14 06:28:00 - [60] - Quote Miilla wrote: Metrics I have noticed that measure the decline of Eve. 1. Market activity declining - Jita actually more expensive for items than other systems (Rens) 2. Player counts dropping 3. Ability to type a full sentence in Jita before the window scrolls. 4. Free AUR handed out like candy 5. PLEX bulk offers (overpriced) desperation bundles 6. Local trolling non existent, even the rats jumped ship What have you noticed as a metric that shows Eve is in decline? I CONSIDER MYSELF IN CCP'S CORNER, HOWEVER IM STARTING TO SEE SIGNS OF TROUBLE Mostly the market, it has slowed significantly. Im a trader so i know first hand. 2-6 not that important, the market shows it all. Eve isnt dying yet, but because of lack of new playable content, players are logging in less, and doing less. This explains why my trading strategy has slowed. New content is needed to get things rolling again, new playable content is crucial.
Tashi Neruu Perkone Caldari State 6	Posted - 2011.09.16 09:20:00 - [61] - Quote i think one of this games weaknesses is that there is absolutely no "replayability" you have 1 character that you can train skills on. your other 2 are essentially mules progression is based on longer skill training times, skills that yield diminishing returns.

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