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Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Coros on 26/01/2009 06:13:59
Edited by: Coros on 26/01/2009 06:12:55
Some of you may of read another scam by me/Garmon a few weeks ago to the extent of a pittyful sum of 3.2 Billion however it was funny.
This scam however I bring you to the effect of ... 23.5 Billion
Yes, I know it's not the biggest but I think its sizeable enough to deserve a post
Edit: The actual scam is selling PLEX cards via freeform contract, easy and yet I don't think there was many people doing it (during December I honestly believe I was the only one).
I hear some of you ask "Why the **** would you reveal that, it's a good source of income!!"
Honestly? Vengeance.
A couple of victims have started doing it so I want to cripple the PLEX scam market by bringing it to the attention of as many as possible.
I was once also caught out, check here
All this scam involved was around five minutes of social engineering and a fraudulent freeform contact.
Enjoy guys, victim list will follow in post two.
PS.: I'd like to thank Shigsy for persuading me to keep at it and not revealing it sooner
PPS.: This has been dealt with. (*Hugs Lark*) |
Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Coros on 26/01/2009 06:12:22
** My Happy Customers ** Total Scam: 23,491 Million
(Date -- Customer -- Amount of 30 Day PLEXs -- Total amount of ISK (Millions)) Some people are duplicated as idiots fell for it multiple times
2008.12.29 Heartless gentleman -- 2 -- 580
2008.12.29 Barolift -- 2 -- 550
2008.12.29 Exymkar -- 2 -- 580 Multiple
2008.12.29 Exymkar -- 2 -- 580 Multiple
2008.12.29 Edo Rus -- 2 -- 550
2008.12.30 Pavel421 -- 2 -- 580
2008.12.30 sunny girl -- 2 -- 600
2008.12.30 steamed bread -- 2 -- 580
2008.12.30 Tharkunn -- 4 -- 1,400
2008.12.30 Brianch -- 1 -- 250
2008.12.30 WarlordLAN -- 2 -- 590
2008.12.30 Bootyliscious -- 1 -- 266
2008.12.30 LexoiD II -- 2 -- 600 Multiple
2008.12.30 LexoiD II -- 2 -- 600 Multiple
2008.12.30 LexoiD II -- 2 -- 300 Multiple
2008.12.30 Man Machine -- 2 -- 555
2008.12.31 RIENERGY -- 2 -- 575
2008.12.31 jijiao02 -- 2 -- 600
2008.12.31 Uran2006 -- 2 -- 275
2008.12.31 Blanked Protection -- 6 -- 1,650
2009.01.01 Roman Crown -- 2 -- 500
2009.01.01 Jerroldd -- 2 -- 575
2009.01.02 BIAKA FOREVER -- 2 -- 600
2009.01.03 MIrandau Bo -- 1 -- 300
2009.01.03 Natalya RU -- 2 -- 525
2009.01.03 Stepan25 -- 2 -- 575
2009.01.03 ElfoVit -- 2 -- 600
2009.01.03 padla58 -- 2 -- 575
2009.01.06 B1adeX -- 2 -- 595
2009.01.06 DemonX128 -- 2 -- 620
2009.01.07 Bistry Gonzalis -- 1 -- 300
2009.01.07 DIMFIRE -- 2 -- 600
2009.01.11 BlackSpider80 -- 2 -- 550
2009.01.14 Aman Tuleev -- 2 -- 625
2009.01.18 Fireball666 -- 2 -- 600
2009.01.18 mrHause -- 2 -- 640 |
Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:10:00 -
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2009.01.23 Phoeneixia -- 4 -- 1,400
2009.01.25 55 41 -- 2 -- 500
2009.01.26 Gunsters Hunter -- 2 -- 550 |
Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:15:00 -
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Edited by: Coros on 26/01/2009 06:23:17
Edited by: Coros on 26/01/2009 06:22:04
One happy customer; (Brianch) - Note, Brianch was taken for the second lowest amount.
(Only his replies are listed, you'll have to try and fit in what I said to him)
2008.12.30 18:11
just so you know i have reportet you so let se what happens im gonna get my money back anny way
*I replied along the lines of, you're not getting your ISK back, CCP approved scam*
2008.12.31 09:11
yes i am yes i am been talking with them last night so you just waist and se what happens
with you account and stuff like that
*I replied reaffirming its allowed by EULA*
2008.12.31 09:31
tel that to them
*I replied pasting GM reply stating its fine*
2008.12.31 09:34
¿well you startet saying time vode and i have that chat so there is no way around that hahahahahah so you are screwed
*I replied pasting our entire chatlog, clearing slowing I never mentioned time code/GTC at any point only PLEX*
2008.12.31 09:48
well we wil se anny way becuse you only alowed to use the secure now with tthat stuff anny way and so you know you and your corp have just been spredt out so evry boddy knows what you do
*I replied stating that PLEXs aren't sold securely via the website, they're an ingame item, I told him people would laugh at him if he told everyone about the scam*
2008.12.31 09:51
well as i say little one you will se ;0)
*I replied asking him to post on C&P - He didn't :(*
2008.12.31 09:53
lol it dosent matter you will se i tell you hehe just wait
*I asked him to post a link to any thread he makes regarding the issue*
2008.12.31 09:55
dont have to right anny more you will se and im telleing you you will se hihi
When I was speaking to GMs there was a stern rule I was not allowed to mention GTC at any point in the convo or in the contract, else I would be deemed breaking the EULA. |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:28:00 -
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Claims first in a thread full of awesome. You kids and your desire to pay for the game in ISK instead of RL cash.  |
Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:50:00 -
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i support wealth redistribution.
I thought about it but didnt think it would actually work. To the victor goes the spoils. Enjoy
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People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
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They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari
Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:52:00 -
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You are one mean astard, mate.  Props 
Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:58:00 -
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I thought there were going to make it so you couldn't put PLEX into a freeform contract?
Good work man. Very surprising that people fell for it over and over again. Bravo.
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http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
I thought there were going to make it so you couldn't put PLEX into a freeform contract?
Good work man. Very surprising that people fell for it over and over again. Bravo.
Without being rude, I don't think you quite understand the mechanics of freeforms.
I simply created a freeform contract (no item) but autolinked a PLEX card in the description. Put on a courier price, and then failed it after they 'completed', hence me getting the money.
PS. There is a warning that specifically states "YOU WILL NOT RECIEVE ANYTHING FROM THIS CONTRACT", yet people still accept.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Coros
Originally by: Vaal Erit
I thought there were going to make it so you couldn't put PLEX into a freeform contract?
Good work man. Very surprising that people fell for it over and over again. Bravo.
Without being rude, I don't think you quite understand the mechanics of freeforms.
I simply created a freeform contract (no item) but autolinked a PLEX card in the description. Put on a courier price, and then failed it after they 'completed', hence me getting the money.
PS. There is a warning that specifically states "YOU WILL NOT RECIEVE ANYTHING FROM THIS CONTRACT", yet people still accept.
So if you freeform nothing, the game says the person completed the courier part but can't recognize that anything was completed, allowing someone to say they never delivered the goods? |
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Amy Mouse
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:10:00 -
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hey there
kodos on the success on the freeforms
I get tired of freeforms since the rate is so low but hey you are doing very well
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! |
Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: Coros on 26/01/2009 07:14:36
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
So if you freeform nothing, the game says the person completed the courier part but can't recognize that anything was completed, allowing someone to say they never delivered the goods?
Before you open a freeform you are warned the contractor has full control. Freeforms contain NOTHING, they never can contain ANYTHING. They can contain an ISK reward and/or Collateral. The contractor (me) has full control over whether to fail your efforts.
Freeforms are simply a way to document spoken agreements, however the person contracting decides everything, you just fake the description to look like an item exchange. |
Jones Bones
Buckeye Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:29:00 -
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I go to bed smiling now. |
Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Mouse
hey there
kodos on the success on the freeforms
I get tired of freeforms since the rate is so low but hey you are doing very well
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
I actually take that as a massive compliment considering you are by _far_ the most consistent Jita local scammer. :)
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:07:00 -
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Having people that rob the stupid of their "hard earned" ISK, (did we hear ebayed?) is a blessing, Thank you sir. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:17:00 -
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Incoming bitter tears threads on General Discussion! Brace for impact!
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Vistilantus
Caldari
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:34:00 -
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Well done, I like to see fools and their isk parted, i bet there are a lot of people who wish they had thought of this first and now even more who try to copy your success.
23bil's gonna buy you some nice toys :) |
DFox31
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:10:00 -
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I can confirm that coros is indeed made of win :) |
Navtiqes
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Navtiqes on 26/01/2009 11:17:34
Isn't PLEX just a fancy ingame lore-word for GTC?
I couldn't care less for your victims, it's their own mistake, but it's odd that PLEX scams are allowed when GTC scams aren't. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Navtiqes
Edited by: Navtiqes on 26/01/2009 11:17:34
Isn't PLEX just a fancy ingame lore-word for GTC?
I couldn't care less for your victims, it's their own mistake, but it's odd that PLEX scams are allowed when GTC scams aren't.
A PLEX is an ingame item, and CCP - bravely IMO - went for consistency when they explicitly stated that no particular protection would be given apart from not allowing them to be moved - which is already quite a lot of protection, since you're being protected from everything except your own failure to read a warning message before clicking accept. |
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.26 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: Warrio on 26/01/2009 13:30:18
Lordy I hope that fact110 as seen in here is actually Garmon in disguise.
Your "social engineering" involved heavy caps lock use, terrible spelling and no sense of grammar. I mean, it's awesome on your part but really? Are the Jita locals actually that dumb? |
Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio
Edited by: Warrio on 26/01/2009 13:26:46
Lordy I hope that fact110 as seen in here is actually Garmon in disguise.
Your "social engineering" involved heavy caps lock use, terrible spelling and no sense of grammar. I mean, it's awesome on your part but really? Are the Jita locals actually that dumb?
That was a very bad example, I always found caps and pressure worked better on poorly spoken English people. Regardless, it made me enough isk. |
Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.26 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Coros
Originally by: Warrio
Edited by: Warrio on 26/01/2009 13:26:46
Lordy I hope that fact110 as seen in here is actually Garmon in disguise.
Your "social engineering" involved heavy caps lock use, terrible spelling and no sense of grammar. I mean, it's awesome on your part but really? Are the Jita locals actually that dumb?
That was a very bad example, I always found caps and pressure worked better on poorly spoken English people. Regardless, it made me enough isk.
A fine example of social engineering then.
Win. |
Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:52:00 -
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Share? I thought we were br0s.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Navtiqes
Edited by: Navtiqes on 26/01/2009 11:17:34
Isn't PLEX just a fancy ingame lore-word for GTC?
I couldn't care less for your victims, it's their own mistake, but it's odd that PLEX scams are allowed when GTC scams aren't.
A PLEX is an ingame item, and CCP - bravely IMO - went for consistency when they explicitly stated that no particular protection would be given apart from not allowing them to be moved - which is already quite a lot of protection, since you're being protected from everything except your own failure to read a warning message before clicking accept.
Funny thing is, this was mentioned in numerous posts before the PLEX was still coming, not ingame yet. Quite alot of discussion regarding the morals and ethics from CCP on this matter, which, either case, I have no real opinion about. The key thing is CCP was warned, this whole "scam" (which isn't very new either, freeform contracts is, as we all know, CCP's little toy tool for kids who want to play baddies) was expected.
So, reaction/conclusion from this thread?
/yawn |
Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.26 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Tchell Dahhn on 26/01/2009 16:25:07
Ninja Edit: I read it, and this thread is full of awesome, even if we didn't give our permission for your use of the word "*Yoink!*" in the title.
Very nice work!
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MicroWarpdrive II
Disorder.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:17:00 -
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Thread Locked.
Stop ruining my income.
-CCP Mitnal |
Carnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:25:00 -
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Moar proof in screenshots or it didn't happen  |
Tyranthin
Incurable Insanity
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:31:00 -
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Just curious as to how much time you spent per day in Jita spamming local with scam contracts?
23.5 billion is a hell of a nice take. |
Greenbolt
Minmatar
The Suicide Kings
True Reign
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:38:00 -
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Any time in Jita is best spent with Local minimized unless your in a wardec..at which point you shouldnt go to Jita in the first place.
Too many scams.
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