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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.01.26 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ezael Whiteshadow
Given that there are many weaknesses of this ship (which I won't go into ) is it just the case that being jammed is very annoying rather than the Falcon being a wtfbbqjamming machine?
Most of the people who complain about falcons ask for a range reduction. The fact that a falcon can operate at full capacity at more then twice the range at which other recons are well into falloff is the main concern of anti-falcon whiners. Think about it, the falcon completely and totally outclasses all other ewar ships, including ECM boats, which should be a pretty good indicator as to the problem with this ship.
What I'd like to see happen is the falcon getting the range bonus completely removed, maybe remove a midslot or 2. Mainly because the whole idea behind force recons is that they're not as good in actual combat as combat recons, but they can warp cloaked. Remove the range bonus on the rook as well, maybe give it a different bonus to ECM (Activation time maybe?) Leave the scorp as it is. It SHOULD be the ECM boat that can sit at 200km jamming people.
No one aspect of the falcon is viewed as a problem by most people. It's the combination of 200km+ range, jamming strength equal to that of the combat recon/battleship variant (can you immagine an eagle with the DPS output of a rokh? Or a deimos with the damage of a megathron?), and the fact that it can warp cloaked.
Oh and one more thing:
Quote: I would assume that most Falcon pilots only enter a fight when their chances of jamming (and therefore survival) are quite high.
By your logic we should be seeing whines about ALL the force recons. Care to venture a guess as to why the falcon got singled out, especially given the caldari's current problems in pvp? |

Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Psiri
Or maybe, they warp in on engagements at 100km (or better yet 200km away with a bookmark) and jam anything that threatens them.
Any ship can warp to BM's or at range.
Kinda sick of seeing ppl complaining about falcons while ALWAYS placing them at long or extreme ranges from the gang.
The falcon is a dead duck when used at closer than snipe ranges and that fact alone gives any gang with half a brain a very real and valid tactic against them.
My god you're right! Why doesn't everyone just land on top of them? It's not like they're 200km away, turn like a cruiser, can warp cloaked, and can jam any ceptor that shows up long enough to get away or anything  |

Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.01.26 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 26/01/2009 15:05:45
Originally by: Cambarus
So you always fight in places that the enemy has long range BM's around?.
Your unimaginative and static ideas on pvp are the problem not falcons or ecm, i suggest you try being a little more mobile in your tactics and even fighting in other places than directly on top of stations or gates. Oh and a dictor or hictor warping to a spot near the falcon would cause it major problems noob.
Best case scenario the falcon is at 100km. Anything less and the falcon pilot screwed up and pilot error should never be a consideration in debating ship balance. That's still outside the range of most ships, definitely outside the range of anything that can tackle. When my arazu can lock and put a point on someone at 100+km then you can tell me that the falcon is fine. But as it stands the ship can operate at ranges that make it invulnerable to any other type of ewar, it can warp cloaked and turn on a dime, and it can break the lock of any ceptor lucky enough to get close long enough to book it. |
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