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Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.01.27 02:25:00 - [1] Yes, I konw over the past week or so I have been a pain in your sides, but... I have never been a big fan of posting IPO releases in the MD forums, so it is on the Sales Forum. For your viewing pleasure: CyberDyne IPO #3 Enjoy, Check us out Now!
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.01.27 03:10:00 - [2] Do you only actively participate in the MD forums each time you wish to launch a lerge IPO (50B this time)?
Walhall Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.01.27 03:12:00 - [3] confirm good men
Bahnny Caldari Mitrochondrial EVE Whiskey Creek Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.27 03:16:00 - [4] Originally by: cosmoray Do you only actively participate in the MD forums each time you wish to launch a lerge IPO (50B this time)? why else would you want to? /first time posting in md, long time reader
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.01.27 03:38:00 - [5] 1. Where's your business plan? All I see is a link to a picture. 2. You need an audit, why? To verify that you are actually making profit. 3. What is your inventory average turnover rate? 10% for Returning Customers
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.01.27 03:52:00 - [6] Edited by: Loney on 27/01/2009 03:53:33 Originally by: Brock Nelson 1. Where's your business plan? All I see is a link to a picture. 2. You need an audit, why? To verify that you are actually making profit. 3. What is your inventory average turnover rate? 1. Yeah, my webhost went down like 5mins after I posted.. they working on fixing it and im working on getting a backup set. 2. Audit, sure anyone anyplace... when did you want to set one up... monthly or like quartly? 3. 4-10% that much I konw it was in the post, basicaly sell 1 capital every 3 days or so on average. Im also going to get in contact with some alliance members to see if they want to book some increased orders. It will all be announced in the Mailing List when/if recieved.
Kazzac Elentria	Posted - 2009.01.27 05:03:00 - [7] Just curios why the IPO Loney, you and I both know you don't need public isk for just about anything in game.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.01.27 05:50:00 - [8] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 27/01/2009 05:55:47 Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Just curios why the IPO Loney, you and I both know you don't need public isk for just about anything in game. Perhaps he's trying to prove something to the naysayers? Good luck Loony! Black Sun Empire
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2009.01.27 06:20:00 - [9] invested!
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.01.27 07:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Loney Originally by: Brock Nelson You need an audit. Why? To verify that you are actually making profit. Audit, sure anyone anyplace... when did you want to set one up... monthly or like quarterly? Regularly-scheduled sounds good, but it is customary to get an audit done at the point in the IPO just before investors send their ISK. The idea is that this can provide independent third-party verification of the claims you are asserting in your IPO sheet (you've labelled them 'Facts').
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.01.27 08:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Ricdic There are certain things that won't be disclosed about EBANK, DBANK, CyberDyne R-A, our relationship etc. You can ask questions but I can't guarantee we will be able to answer them
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.01.27 09:03:00 - [12] put me down for -5 shares -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
ofstrife	Posted - 2009.01.27 09:20:00 - [13] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic invested! Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Does this mean you've invested in his offering? Especially in the light of DBANK's loss of capital to a scammer, it would probably be a good idea to clear this up... By the way, I don't mean this to be either for or against EBANK, I just want some clarification. Nor do I have any money in either of the banks.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2009.01.27 10:29:00 - [14] I'd like to reserve 20 shares, pending an audit to verify your profits. I wasn't very impressed with your last venture. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team
Amrumm Rhetorical Devices	Posted - 2009.01.27 10:41:00 - [15] Originally by: ofstrife Originally by: EBANK Ricdic invested! Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Does this mean you've invested in his offering? Especially in the light of DBANK's loss of capital to a scammer, it would probably be a good idea to clear this up... By the way, I don't mean this to be either for or against EBANK, I just want some clarification. Nor do I have any money in either of the banks. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=983302
Ricdic Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.27 12:14:00 - [16] Originally by: ofstrife Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Does this mean you've invested in his offering? As per the link above, yes. Quote: Especially in the light of DBANK's loss of capital to a scammer, it would probably be a good idea to clear this up... Not sure what the relation is. I have chosen to invest in an entity based on my own opinions. I have put over 100 billion isk into investments through MD and so far lost 2.5 billion isk of those funds to scam. Quote: By the way, I don't mean this to be either for or against EBANK, I just want some clarification. Nor do I have any money in either of the banks. It's irrelevant. I chose not to provide any other information except that I invested simply because I want other people to choose to invest/not invest based solely on their own merits. I have done my research and made my decision, its really as simple as that.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2009.01.27 13:05:00 - [17] Quote: It's irrelevant. I chose not to provide any other information except that I invested simply because I want other people to choose to invest/not invest based solely on their own merits. I have done my research and made my decision, its really as simple as that. ZOMG EVERYONE! TO THE 'BLAMERICDICMOBILE' WHEN IT GOES UNDER. Man, those were the days Wish there were less sheep sometimes...
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.01.27 13:15:00 - [18] Originally by: ofstrife Originally by: EBANK Ricdic invested! Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Does this mean you've invested in his offering? Especially in the light of DBANK's loss of capital to a scammer, it would probably be a good idea to clear this up... By the way, I don't mean this to be either for or against EBANK, I just want some clarification. Nor do I have any money in either of the banks. why do you give a **** where Ric invests his or EBANKS money? Loney probably won't scam so the capital is safe. EBANK can afford to invest into IPO's that have track records of poor returns because there cost of capital is 1.5% per month. As long as they are above that they make a profit.
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.01.27 14:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Just curios why the IPO Loney, you and I both know you don't need public isk for just about anything in game. Though your statement is no doubt true, the answer is for several reasons. However, the simplest answer is what YouGotRipped summarized below in his first sentence! Originally by: YouGotRipped Perhaps he's trying to prove something to the naysayers? Good luck Loony! And don't forget to shift the focus of the IPO the very moment you receive the funds. Experiment with that dreadnought insurance idea, live you life to the max! Yes, I am dedicated to ôbetterö customer communications this time. I have made and INGAME mailing list hopefully that will be utilized by all shareholders and hell, even those future shareholders. No I do not experiment with funds, all funds will be used exactly as outlined. Originally by: Thoraemond Regularly-scheduled sounds good, but it is customary to get an audit done at the point in the IPO just before investors send their ISK. The idea is that this can provide independent third-party verification of the claims you are asserting in your IPO sheet (you've labeled them 'Facts'). I am not familiar with the steps necessary, but I have several TeamSpeak servers I use and EVERYONE/ANYONE is welcome to request a chat anytime. Perhaps I will contact Chribba and see if he can do it for meà Hopefully he is ôtrustedö enough to be the 3rd party auditor. Originally by: ofstrife Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Whoa, whoÆs controversial? Just because the last business plan had a ôproblemö and forced it to close without meeting its mark, does not mean controversial. It takes a massive effort to build (1) titan let alone (3)à the (4th) which WOULD have completed the IPO to the successful 100B mark was unable to happen due to circumstances that were UNCONTROLABLE by meà not sure how many times I have to state that. What is comes down to is ALL my business plans HAVE BEEN PROVEN to make ISK... HOWEVER that last plan was UNABLE to be completed, hences it SEEMS like a failure! Originally by: cosmoray Loney probably won't scam so the capital is safe. What! There is NO probably wonÆt scamà Loney DOES NOT scam! NOR does he ôintentionallyö not meet the requirements of a business plan!
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.01.27 14:29:00 - [20] Originally by: RaTTuS put me down for -5 shares Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I'd like to reserve 20 shares, pending an audit to verify your profits. I wasn't very impressed with your last venture. Can you guys please post in the SALES FORUMS too station that you want to reserve the threads.. I will be keeping track in that thread. Thanks
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.01.27 14:31:00 - [21] Just incase peopele get "worried" I am currently at WORK so i can use the forums.. when i get HOME i will check the ISK and shares to be transfered INGAME.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.01.27 16:36:00 - [22] The most I WILL EVER say about an IPO is that the CEO probably/unlikely will not SCAM. There are no guarantees in Eve, as long as you could you might. I just don't think you would, as you haven't before
nether void Caldari Shrapnel Industries	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:28:00 - [23] Personally I wouldn't invest in this. Just because it's not likely a scam means it merits investment. Not that my opinion matters a lot, but there it is. lol --------------------
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:34:00 - [24] Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: ofstrife Originally by: EBANK Ricdic invested! Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Does this mean you've invested in his offering? Especially in the light of DBANK's loss of capital to a scammer, it would probably be a good idea to clear this up... By the way, I don't mean this to be either for or against EBANK, I just want some clarification. Nor do I have any money in either of the banks. why do you give a **** where Ric invests his or EBANKS money? Loney probably won't scam so the capital is safe. EBANK can afford to invest into IPO's that have track records of poor returns because there cost of capital is 1.5% per month. As long as they are above that they make a profit. Judging by how many people invested so far, what ofstrife posted is the the most widely adopted stance among MD visitors (Xabier's scam is still vivid in their minds), not many have been around to witness Loney's previous offering and even those that have are not exactly jumping to the opportunity. I would agree with you though that the only issue to consider here is profitability. Black Sun Empire
ofstrife	Posted - 2009.01.27 18:12:00 - [25] Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: ofstrife Originally by: EBANK Ricdic invested! Ricdic, what does this mean? With such a controversial figure as Loney, wouldn't it be best to keep EBANK's standing with him clear? Does this mean you've invested in his offering? Especially in the light of DBANK's loss of capital to a scammer, it would probably be a good idea to clear this up... By the way, I don't mean this to be either for or against EBANK, I just want some clarification. Nor do I have any money in either of the banks. why do you give a ** where Ric invests his or EBANKS money? Loney probably won't scam so the capital is safe. EBANK can afford to invest into IPO's that have track records of poor returns because there cost of capital is 1.5% per month. As long as they are above that they make a profit. Cosmo, I really don't care where Ricdic invests his money. I'm just trying to save him a potential **storm if something goes wrong with this IPO and people are too lazy to do their research. I guess I'm just an advocate for clarity here. Also, I missed the sales forum link in the thread, as I'm guessing many MD people did. I figure more clarity is a good thing. If you had said something similar, I'd probably have said something similar to you. It's nothing personal, I assure you. Loney, my impression of you is that you're regarded by many to be a scammer. I know you're repeatedly noted that you didn't scam, the ventures just failed. However, what I've noticed around here is that it isn't what has actually happened that matters, it's what people think happened. For instance, people invested in the most recent scam because he looked good. There were warning signs, but a lot of people missed them and got burnt badly. I guess I don't really care what happens to this IPO, as I'm not investing in it because I don't have the spare ISK at the moment. However, I am interested in try to keep MD honest and open let it be useful like it used to be.
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:27:00 - [26] Originally by: ofstrife Loney, my impression of you is that you're regarded by many to be a scammer. I know you're repeatedly noted that you didn't scam, the ventures just failed. However, what I've noticed around here is that it isn't what has actually happened that matters, it's what people think happened. For instance, people invested in the most recent scam because he looked good. There were warning signs, but a lot of people missed them and got burnt badly. I'm not sure where people keep getting all these Ideas? 1. In the many theards about me NOT ONE person has refered to me as a SCAMMER? 2. Where is all this falied ventures (as in multiple) comming from? Out of the TWO ventures I ran, ONE DOUBLE promised payouts and ONE did NOT reach the goal, BUT still finished POSITIVE (yes i understand this ONE is still considerad a fail)! Invest / don't invest... either way thanks for your concern, but please try to have the fact 100% right before posting them. Heck, meet me on TS and give me and INTERVIEW, or audit me first at least. Check us out Now!
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:55:00 - [27] Originally by: Loney Originally by: Thoraemond Audit: the idea is that this can provide independent third-party verification of the claims you are asserting in your IPO sheet (you've labeled them 'Facts'). I am not familiar with the steps necessary, but I have several TeamSpeak servers [...]. Perhaps I will contact Chribba and see if he can do it for me... Hopefully he is "trusted" enough to be the 3rd party auditor. Auditing in this context has very little, if anything, to do with TeamSpeak. In my opinion, Chribba would certainly be trusted enough, if he is willing to do such an audit. There are several other regulars in Market Discussions whose audits I would trust, and several others I can think of who don't participate regularly in Market Discussions: the key is that your potential investors be satisfied with the trustworthiness of the auditor.
Salvo Brunel	Posted - 2009.01.27 22:40:00 - [28] Can I ask why your main IPO thread is in the Sales forum? It seems that most IPOs are sold here. I can't help but think that you are posting there because you will get a less critical reception. If I knew little about MD and saw a post in the Sales forum where people were investing billions I might be tempted to get in on the action. Whilst those fools may deserve to lose their money, it seems that a good IPO would pitch to the 'savvy' people who know the risks and can adeqauetely evaluate them. Disclaimer: Most of the people investing seem to know a lot more about the secondary market than me. But your recent posting ring alarm bells for me. The location of the main IPO thread confirm them.
ofstrife	Posted - 2009.01.27 22:52:00 - [29] Loney, I'd like to apologize for my unfounded statements as I can't seem to find the threads that I was thinking of when I made the above statements. However, it is clear that something weird went on with one of your IPOs, and it's important that people understand that.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2009.01.27 22:59:00 - [30] Quote: Cosmo, I really don't care where Ricdic invests his money. I'm just trying to save him a potential **storm if something goes wrong with this IPO and people are too lazy to do their research. If a man crosses the street while the light is red, and gets hit by a car, is there public outcry against that man when some idiot thought "Hey, he's crossing, so I'll cross too even though the light is red" and get's hit by the car too? **ing sheep. Only person anyone can blame is themselves for not doing any/poor research. And trust me, if Loney scams, I'll have the flamethrower ready for anyone who thinks to blame anyone other than themselves just on principle of them being an idiot.

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