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Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:32:00 - [1] I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ship I can fly that can be best fitted for my first Wormhole penetration. What will I need, barebones? I realize we won't know what the new probe stuff will eat up yet, but I can get an idea by thinking about all this now. I'm guessing a decent PvE tank, but I would be astonished if the wormholios don't neut and do other nasty things as well so passive is a definate option. Oh, and reasonable dps for BS sized targets, a scan probe launcher (ouch that cpu) and a salvager. Also, fits that require wads of ammo or cap boosters is probably a bad idea. I made the judgement that a BC or BS sized vessel would probably be the best thing to use by shere dint of available CPU and grid, I could be wrong. I also assume that because it will basically be 0.0 mechanics so that using a t1 insureable would be smartest. I made some strange but probably workable fits using everything from passive shield tanking Domis (my shield skills are uber but my armor stuff blows, and to be blunt I was suprised at what I could do with it if I ignored potential failmail lols) to Drakes to Nighthawks to Rattlesnakes to Scorps and Ravens. Out of all of them the Scorp fit I made is the only one with at least some potential to escape an unwanted PvP encounter but as usual the dps is bigtime lacking. The Rattler could probably drive some people off by merely boring them, but it's an expensive ship. I have decided on something though. I might post it later if I see some crazier fit than it. Regardless what do youy reckon you will enter with?
DarkSpiralMoon	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:38:00 - [2] I like the title anwyay
Dark Soldat Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:40:00 - [3] kinky title
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:40:00 - [4] was thinking about this too and with the little information I have I would probably fit alt in her uber skilled apoc for combat, main in typhoon for probing, hacking, analyzing, gas cloud harvesting or whatever these worm holes have in them and then my other alt in a prowler to store stuff. lots of cloaks for hiding I wouldn't be looking for fights would probably pack a web in the apoc and scram in the phoon if some guy was being a pain but still quite kill able.
Herring Caldari Industrial Accidents Incorporated	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:42:00 - [5] Posting in a penetration thread
DarkSpiralMoon	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:45:00 - [6] To answer your question. No one knows... That said, there are obviously going to be different levels of difficulty. Much like we have now, with current explo. High sec are simple, moving to easy for low sec and up to challenging in 0.0 (where I do plex's) I forsee this staying the same. Makes perfect sense. So... knowing that, you can at least have an idea of the ships you may need (who knows what you'll really need. maybe just a covert ops) What I'm getting at is, if your in high sec now, your not going to need a command ship are you
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:48:00 - [7] Edited by: Soporo on 28/01/2009 09:51:05 Meh, true but didnt they claim the things would move after each dt or after a specified timer? So if an Empire .5 sys wormhole is found and entered and the guy stays in there for a day or two (I would) can't it potentially move to a 0.0 system? I assume the rats or plexes or whatever would change, but maybe I got it wrong.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:52:00 - [8] you have a very short time to get in then stick in there occasionally poking your head out to see what's on the other side till you find somewhere you wanna get off..... sorta like a mystery train ride
Ribald Flux	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Soporo I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ship I can fly that can be best fitted for my first Wormhole penetration. If your already concerned about it being too early then you should probably wait. Your first Wormhole penetration should be a special moment that you don't want to rush into. But, if you're dead set on it, you need to make sure that your ship is protected first and foremost. The consequences of flying an unprotected ship into a virgin wormhole can be very serious and you need to be sure that your man enough to accept responsibility for what could happen as a result. Lastly, don't be so concerned about your ship, the best pilots focus more of their attention on the wormhole.
Ribald Flux	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Typhado3 you have a very short time to get in then stick in there occasionally poking your head out to see what's on the other side till you find somewhere you wanna get off..... sorta like a mystery train ride Don't be perverse.
Psiri	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:59:00 - [11] This thread feels a little bit premature.
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:59:00 - [12] I am thinking of girls... topic is suggestive (falcon girls) back on topic, a tech 1 BC, because you never know what you are going to face and when. And BC are very cost effective. Passive AC hurricane, or dual rep hurricane will be ideal.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:59:00 - [13] Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 28/01/2009 09:59:47 Posting in a "50% of the eve playerbase are dirty bastards" thread! ...and yes, I thought the same thing Quote: I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ... can be best fitted for my first ... penetration. Bwuahaha! Quote: what do youy reckon you will enter with? Yes, I'm 12... As for what ship to take? You realise the dev blog mentioned that they are reworking the probe launchers so you might find that you'll simply grab your passive drake for this like almost all other PVE?
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:02:00 - [14] Quote: Lastly, don't be so concerned about your ship, the best pilots focus more of their attention on the wormhole. Naw, EVE is all about self gratification and the (usually) quite rapid wtfpwning by multiple bristling golden wangs out of the blue. There's no foreplay in EVE!
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Soporo Naw, EVE is all about self gratification god damn it op and his thread title has disrupted my mind now all I can see are suss comments. ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:39:00 - [16] haha, wangs. OP: I think a lot of it will depend on the new NPC behavior. I've heard rumors that they'll change targets so they might start going after drones, or use more ewar, or neut more, etc etc etc... More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - a huge wormhole might open for a relatively innocuous system, or (more dangerously) vice versa. That said I would recommend something with a spare highslot (for the probe launcher), sturdy tank, EWAR-resistant weapons, and weapon systems that can deal adequate DPS to most targets. And possibly small/light enough that you can fit through enough of the wormholes. So I'm thinking maybe the Drake, Myrm, Ishtar, Cerberus, or Sacrilege will make good choices. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:42:00 - [17] Things i took away from the title and OP: -Penetration -penetration -bones -nasty things -probe -ouch -workable fits -enter with ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!"
NeoTheo Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:56:00 - [18] Originally by: Herring Posting in a penetration thread /lol
Ribald Flux	Posted - 2009.01.28 11:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Terianna Eri More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - Size always matters.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.28 11:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Terianna Eri haha, wangs. OP: I think a lot of it will depend on the new NPC behavior. I've heard rumors that they'll change targets so they might start going after drones, or use more ewar, or neut more, etc etc etc... More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - a huge wormhole might open for a relatively innocuous system, or (more dangerously) vice versa. That said I would recommend something with a spare highslot (for the probe launcher), sturdy tank, EWAR-resistant weapons, and weapon systems that can deal adequate DPS to most targets. And possibly small/light enough that you can fit through enough of the wormholes. So I'm thinking maybe the Drake, Myrm, Ishtar, Cerberus, or Sacrilege will make good choices. Yeah good ship choices there.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Ribald Flux Originally by: Terianna Eri More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - Size always matters. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU-
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Soporo bone Regardless what do youy reckon you will enter with?
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:32:00 - [23] wormholes are best penetrated with a Thorax, or better yet, a Phobos
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:52:00 - [24] Originally by: ry ry wormholes are best penetrated with a Thorax, or better yet, a Phobos Armageddon?
Seetesh Caldari Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.01.28 13:03:00 - [25] Other than giggling at the word penetration im going to be taking t2 ships probs hacs recons and command ships to offset the tanking modules to replace them with scanning and exploration mods
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 20:47:00 - [26] Edited by: Soporo on 28/01/2009 20:49:59 Originally by: HankMurphy Things i took away from the title and OP: -Penetration -penetration -bones -nasty things -probe -ouch -workable fits -enter with This thread is now about Hawt-EVE-sex. Oh, and you forgot -passive -strange -blows -available -barebone
Seragon Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.28 21:16:00 - [27] I'll probably set up a Widow for exploration. Missiles don't need cap, range is a great tank, EW helps get away from points, and if I get stuck it'll be a great ship to navigate out of hostile territory with. Either that or a domi.
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2009.01.28 21:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Ribald Flux If your already concerned about it being too early then you should probably wait. Your first Wormhole penetration should be a special moment that you don't want to rush into. But, if you're dead set on it, you need to make sure that your ship is protected first and foremost. The consequences of flying an unprotected ship into a virgin wormhole can be very serious and you need to be sure that your man enough to accept responsibility for what could happen as a result. Lastly, don't be so concerned about your ship, the best pilots focus more of their attention on the wormhole. You sir, have won EVE for the day. Congratulations, what are you going to do now?
baltec1 R.U.S.T. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.01.28 22:00:00 - [29] I hear the bigger the better. So I will be penetrating wormholes with my geddon, I just hope it wont get stuck when trying to pull back out of a wormhole.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.01.28 23:35:00 - [30] Size matters, but as long as you can enter with a frigate size or bigger you'll be fine. It's what you do once you're inside the system that matters, not how you enter.

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