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Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:32:00 - [1] I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ship I can fly that can be best fitted for my first Wormhole penetration. What will I need, barebones? I realize we won't know what the new probe stuff will eat up yet, but I can get an idea by thinking about all this now. I'm guessing a decent PvE tank, but I would be astonished if the wormholios don't neut and do other nasty things as well so passive is a definate option. Oh, and reasonable dps for BS sized targets, a scan probe launcher (ouch that cpu) and a salvager. Also, fits that require wads of ammo or cap boosters is probably a bad idea. I made the judgement that a BC or BS sized vessel would probably be the best thing to use by shere dint of available CPU and grid, I could be wrong. I also assume that because it will basically be 0.0 mechanics so that using a t1 insureable would be smartest. I made some strange but probably workable fits using everything from passive shield tanking Domis (my shield skills are uber but my armor stuff blows, and to be blunt I was suprised at what I could do with it if I ignored potential failmail lols) to Drakes to Nighthawks to Rattlesnakes to Scorps and Ravens. Out of all of them the Scorp fit I made is the only one with at least some potential to escape an unwanted PvP encounter but as usual the dps is bigtime lacking. The Rattler could probably drive some people off by merely boring them, but it's an expensive ship. I have decided on something though. I might post it later if I see some crazier fit than it. Regardless what do youy reckon you will enter with?
DarkSpiralMoon	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:38:00 - [2] I like the title anwyay
Dark Soldat Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:40:00 - [3] kinky title
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:40:00 - [4] was thinking about this too and with the little information I have I would probably fit alt in her uber skilled apoc for combat, main in typhoon for probing, hacking, analyzing, gas cloud harvesting or whatever these worm holes have in them and then my other alt in a prowler to store stuff. lots of cloaks for hiding I wouldn't be looking for fights would probably pack a web in the apoc and scram in the phoon if some guy was being a pain but still quite kill able.
Herring Caldari Industrial Accidents Incorporated	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:42:00 - [5] Posting in a penetration thread
DarkSpiralMoon	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:45:00 - [6] To answer your question. No one knows... That said, there are obviously going to be different levels of difficulty. Much like we have now, with current explo. High sec are simple, moving to easy for low sec and up to challenging in 0.0 (where I do plex's) I forsee this staying the same. Makes perfect sense. So... knowing that, you can at least have an idea of the ships you may need (who knows what you'll really need. maybe just a covert ops) What I'm getting at is, if your in high sec now, your not going to need a command ship are you
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:48:00 - [7] Edited by: Soporo on 28/01/2009 09:51:05 Meh, true but didnt they claim the things would move after each dt or after a specified timer? So if an Empire .5 sys wormhole is found and entered and the guy stays in there for a day or two (I would) can't it potentially move to a 0.0 system? I assume the rats or plexes or whatever would change, but maybe I got it wrong.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:52:00 - [8] you have a very short time to get in then stick in there occasionally poking your head out to see what's on the other side till you find somewhere you wanna get off..... sorta like a mystery train ride
Ribald Flux	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Soporo I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ship I can fly that can be best fitted for my first Wormhole penetration. If your already concerned about it being too early then you should probably wait. Your first Wormhole penetration should be a special moment that you don't want to rush into. But, if you're dead set on it, you need to make sure that your ship is protected first and foremost. The consequences of flying an unprotected ship into a virgin wormhole can be very serious and you need to be sure that your man enough to accept responsibility for what could happen as a result. Lastly, don't be so concerned about your ship, the best pilots focus more of their attention on the wormhole.
Ribald Flux	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Typhado3 you have a very short time to get in then stick in there occasionally poking your head out to see what's on the other side till you find somewhere you wanna get off..... sorta like a mystery train ride Don't be perverse.
Psiri	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:59:00 - [11] This thread feels a little bit premature.
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:59:00 - [12] I am thinking of girls... topic is suggestive (falcon girls) back on topic, a tech 1 BC, because you never know what you are going to face and when. And BC are very cost effective. Passive AC hurricane, or dual rep hurricane will be ideal.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.01.28 09:59:00 - [13] Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 28/01/2009 09:59:47 Posting in a "50% of the eve playerbase are dirty bastards" thread! ...and yes, I thought the same thing Quote: I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ... can be best fitted for my first ... penetration. Bwuahaha! Quote: what do youy reckon you will enter with? Yes, I'm 12... As for what ship to take? You realise the dev blog mentioned that they are reworking the probe launchers so you might find that you'll simply grab your passive drake for this like almost all other PVE?
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:02:00 - [14] Quote: Lastly, don't be so concerned about your ship, the best pilots focus more of their attention on the wormhole. Naw, EVE is all about self gratification and the (usually) quite rapid wtfpwning by multiple bristling golden wangs out of the blue. There's no foreplay in EVE!
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Soporo Naw, EVE is all about self gratification god damn it op and his thread title has disrupted my mind now all I can see are suss comments. ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:39:00 - [16] haha, wangs. OP: I think a lot of it will depend on the new NPC behavior. I've heard rumors that they'll change targets so they might start going after drones, or use more ewar, or neut more, etc etc etc... More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - a huge wormhole might open for a relatively innocuous system, or (more dangerously) vice versa. That said I would recommend something with a spare highslot (for the probe launcher), sturdy tank, EWAR-resistant weapons, and weapon systems that can deal adequate DPS to most targets. And possibly small/light enough that you can fit through enough of the wormholes. So I'm thinking maybe the Drake, Myrm, Ishtar, Cerberus, or Sacrilege will make good choices. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:42:00 - [17] Things i took away from the title and OP: -Penetration -penetration -bones -nasty things -probe -ouch -workable fits -enter with ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!"
NeoTheo Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.28 10:56:00 - [18] Originally by: Herring Posting in a penetration thread /lol
Ribald Flux	Posted - 2009.01.28 11:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Terianna Eri More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - Size always matters.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.28 11:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Terianna Eri haha, wangs. OP: I think a lot of it will depend on the new NPC behavior. I've heard rumors that they'll change targets so they might start going after drones, or use more ewar, or neut more, etc etc etc... More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - a huge wormhole might open for a relatively innocuous system, or (more dangerously) vice versa. That said I would recommend something with a spare highslot (for the probe launcher), sturdy tank, EWAR-resistant weapons, and weapon systems that can deal adequate DPS to most targets. And possibly small/light enough that you can fit through enough of the wormholes. So I'm thinking maybe the Drake, Myrm, Ishtar, Cerberus, or Sacrilege will make good choices. Yeah good ship choices there.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Ribald Flux Originally by: Terianna Eri More significant, I don't think there's a relation between the size of the wormhole that opens and the difficulty of whatever's inside - Size always matters. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU-
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Soporo bone Regardless what do youy reckon you will enter with?
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:32:00 - [23] wormholes are best penetrated with a Thorax, or better yet, a Phobos
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.28 12:52:00 - [24] Originally by: ry ry wormholes are best penetrated with a Thorax, or better yet, a Phobos Armageddon?
Seetesh Caldari Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.01.28 13:03:00 - [25] Other than giggling at the word penetration im going to be taking t2 ships probs hacs recons and command ships to offset the tanking modules to replace them with scanning and exploration mods
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.28 20:47:00 - [26] Edited by: Soporo on 28/01/2009 20:49:59 Originally by: HankMurphy Things i took away from the title and OP: -Penetration -penetration -bones -nasty things -probe -ouch -workable fits -enter with This thread is now about Hawt-EVE-sex. Oh, and you forgot -passive -strange -blows -available -barebone
Seragon Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.28 21:16:00 - [27] I'll probably set up a Widow for exploration. Missiles don't need cap, range is a great tank, EW helps get away from points, and if I get stuck it'll be a great ship to navigate out of hostile territory with. Either that or a domi.
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2009.01.28 21:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Ribald Flux If your already concerned about it being too early then you should probably wait. Your first Wormhole penetration should be a special moment that you don't want to rush into. But, if you're dead set on it, you need to make sure that your ship is protected first and foremost. The consequences of flying an unprotected ship into a virgin wormhole can be very serious and you need to be sure that your man enough to accept responsibility for what could happen as a result. Lastly, don't be so concerned about your ship, the best pilots focus more of their attention on the wormhole. You sir, have won EVE for the day. Congratulations, what are you going to do now?
baltec1 R.U.S.T. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.01.28 22:00:00 - [29] I hear the bigger the better. So I will be penetrating wormholes with my geddon, I just hope it wont get stuck when trying to pull back out of a wormhole.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.01.28 23:35:00 - [30] Size matters, but as long as you can enter with a frigate size or bigger you'll be fine. It's what you do once you're inside the system that matters, not how you enter.
Relleh	Posted - 2009.01.29 01:27:00 - [31] One thing to consider, you don't want to take consumables with you, unless you have a cloaky hauler to take along with you. How long can you really stay stranded and doing stuff that is productive if you have to share your cargo hold with ammo, and probes (although i did pick up somewhere probes are reusable?) and also any of the loot, remember these rats might not have bounties on them. Unless you are willing to take an orca out there (remember if you jet from orca and end up getting podded you may never find it again), or put up a pos, and haul a freighter/orca load of consumables to it, it is going to be far from a solo deal. the smallest group i really could see going out there, would consist of a drone ship, and a hauler to make it worthwhile. Unless you want to expand and cargo rig your BS/BC to haul the only income that comes from the rats there(so the rumor mill churns out) Anyhow, should be fun with a dedicated group of folk.
Ikathis sihtaki	Posted - 2009.01.29 01:31:00 - [32] I plan to chill in cov ops....wait for my prey, you know someone will show up with faction fit goodies =)
UMEE	Posted - 2009.01.29 01:37:00 - [33] i cant believe no one has recommended the thorax yet, for perfect wormhole penetration.
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.01.29 01:52:00 - [34] Originally by: UMEE i cant believe no one has recommended the thorax yet, for perfect wormhole penetration. you mean the pink, erect throbbing glistening phobos....
Matroshka Young Enterprise Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2009.01.29 04:23:00 - [35] I plan on penetrating wormholes with my Sac But really, it's between a Sacrilege or a Zealot for me. The Sac has better tanking ability, capable of all damage types, has a good size cargo hold for ammo and loot, and an extra high slot for a probe launcher. On the other hand, the Zealot doesn't use (or uses very little) ammo, has higher dps (only EM/Therm), and can dedicate it's small cargo hold to loot.
UMEE	Posted - 2009.01.29 04:27:00 - [36] on a serious note, i think HACs will be awesome for wormholes, especially the ones that dont need ammo, i.e. Ishtar and Zealot. Sac is cool too.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.01.29 05:06:00 - [37] Really? I'd bring a carrier. Fill it with a POS, a month worth of fuel and a few ships to rat in. Heck it's even got a corp hangar to throw loot/ammo in.
Relleh	Posted - 2009.01.29 05:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Spaztick Really? I'd bring a carrier. Fill it with a POS, a month worth of fuel and a few ships to rat in. Heck it's even got a corp hangar to throw loot/ammo in. Might be worth it just to go scan out ships folks have had to abandon because of podding and never being able to get back into the system
dolmant	Posted - 2009.01.29 07:22:00 - [39] from what i saw in the devblog, the exploration launchers will not need a lot of cpu. was i the only one to get that impression? you WONT need 220 cpu "Exploration probes will not be able to locate ships and drones but will have extremely low fitting requirements" Extremely low does not suggest more than 50 to me. as a result a hac would be excellent. may i point out that an ishtar would be perfect as you will almost certainly need to salvage to maxmise you return (sentries ftw!). Zealot has no spare highs unless you want to sacrifice 20% dps for a salvager? and the sac has one free, but low dps. i personally will prefer a bs for the first month, just because its insurable while i work out what not to do against the new rats. for that, a drone/laser user with free highslots is good, the typhoon being awesome (cruise, salvagers/artillery/med guns for scrammer ships, heavies) and the domi being just as good.
Wideen Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:28:00 - [40] Edited by: Wideen on 29/01/2009 11:28:24 for all forms of penetration I'd recommend an Iteron (1-5 depending on your preferences) edit; forgot the hyperion but it's more for wormhole plugging
Gartel Reiman Civis Romanus Sum	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:11:00 - [41] Originally by: dolmant from what i saw in the devblog, the exploration launchers will not need a lot of cpu. was i the only one to get that impression? you WONT need 220 cpu "Exploration probes will not be able to locate ships and drones but will have extremely low fitting requirements" Extremely low does not suggest more than 50 to me. as a result a hac would be excellent. No, I was about to point this out too, so it shouldn't be that much trouble to fit a wormhole probe to any ship (though presumably one with a utility high would be good as chances are the new probe launcher will still take a high slot). I would be a little hesitant in taking a T2 ship though - at least until I've seen a bit about what lurks within and what their capabilities are. My first trip through will probably be in a T1 battlecruiser for the insurance aspect. I expect the Harbinger would be good (spare highslot and nonconsumable ammo), as would the Myrmidon potentially (decent amounts of drone space, lots of high for salvagers if you want, active tank might still be better against new NPCs). Battleships would potentially work as well (in which case Geddon and Domi are almost the perfect analogues to those two BCs) but well, they seem a bit clunky to be taking around an bit of 0.0 with unknown NPCs and delayed mode local...
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:20:00 - [42] I am thinking the Paladin will be the best option for the long range exploration in wormhole space... no need for new ammo, large cargo-hold for t3 goodies to reverse engineer once you get back... I get the feeling I have trained the wrong BS's to 5
Suga H Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:20:00 - [43] It's not the size of the boat that counts. It's the motion of the ocean. Seriously, I'd fit an omni tank with no ammo.. probably a drone boat, really. Passive shield domi? I wonder if they're going to introduce some way to change fittings out in space? It'd be nice to enter with an omni tank and scout around and then switch to a more specialized tank.
Camilo Cienfuegos Earned In Blood	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:24:00 - [44] -1 Internets for every post without inuendo in it! Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.29 15:02:00 - [45] Edited by: ry ry on 29/01/2009 15:02:49 Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: UMEE i cant believe no one has recommended the thorax yet, for perfect wormhole penetration. you mean the pink, erect throbbing glistening phobos.... i slipped that in on page one.
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.01.29 15:11:00 - [46] Phobos...and don't forget to spit on the end.
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.29 15:14:00 - [47] Edited by: ry ry on 29/01/2009 15:16:06 actually on a non-sexy note (because flying one is proven to be an effective contraceptive) a roqual ("the mobile orgy") with it's lovely, fresh, smooth clones would be useful for slipping into the unknown.
Donna Maria Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.29 15:21:00 - [48] Always approach from the rear. Im the girl momma warned you about..
Tajidan Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2009.01.29 15:26:00 - [49] poastin in a "Wormholes, the Vaginas of outer space" thread. http://www.eve-gfx.com
Letifer Deus A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:59:00 - [50] mmm, hole...penetration. I am very excite!!!
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.29 18:03:00 - [51] Just thought I should check the thread to see whether the penetration jokes have stopped already...
Noglops	Posted - 2009.01.29 20:11:00 - [52] Why do you want the penetrations to stop? She'll probably start talking again.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2009.01.29 20:16:00 - [53] The lot of you need girlfriends..... Also, I'm thinking passive drake, best cost to tank ratio for the mass IMO, heavy dics mights be worth consideration as PVE ships since they are actually the best tankers for their mass... -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.29 20:24:00 - [54] PREPARE FOR WARMHOLE PENETRATION! CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.29 20:56:00 - [55] Quote: I just re-read the dev blog; they say we we will need variations of typical PVP fits I missed that! Ugh. Yeah I just got into a HIC myself and that might be another choice despite the anemic dps. But generally speaking, if it's going to be pvp fits that leaves out lolshieldtanking lolCaldari without a gang. Gdamn Amarr ftw I guess.
Leiara Knight Gallente The Oblivion Guard	Posted - 2009.01.30 00:58:00 - [56] I'm going to pretend I'm John Crichton and get lost. I might ram an alien as well.
chrisss0r	Posted - 2009.01.30 01:07:00 - [57] i really really hope the new npc type will be some kind of EARTH forces and the wormholes a link back to good old milkyway
Eternum Praetorian Tupperware Party	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:30:00 - [58] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 30/01/2009 02:30:28 ---Wormholes will only allow for limited mass to pass through them. You will need to bring a group that will allow for max productivity. And that group will need a massive hauling capacity. This suggests Hac's that don't use ammo and rigged Iteron V's for maxim efficiency. I would assume that often times Wormholes that lead to really good systems may not always allow for a great deal of mass to cross (oh wait penetrate ) its threshold. Rinse and repeat.
london Gallente KDS Navy	Posted - 2009.01.30 04:50:00 - [59] you had me at 'penetration'.
Malaan Tabfassh The Flowing Penguins	Posted - 2009.01.30 05:42:00 - [60] Do we have any infos about exiting these areas? Wouldnt be so cool to end up with a small empire based exploration group next in a 0.0 HQ system, or for the -5 guys next to Jita, wouldn't it?
ShadowGod56	Posted - 2009.01.30 07:26:00 - [61] Originally by: Malaan Tabfassh Do we have any infos about exiting these areas? Wouldnt be so cool to end up with a small empire based exploration group next in a 0.0 HQ system, or for the -5 guys next to Jita, wouldn't it? who wants to exit penetration?.. oh wait
cianide pro	Posted - 2009.01.30 09:56:00 - [62] I think hac is nice for this though we have to wait for more info on the cargo space needed for the loot/items we can find there.
Leiara Knight Gallente The Oblivion Guard	Posted - 2009.01.30 10:02:00 - [63] Only one who has truly mastered riding those slippery wormholes can attempt entry with the Velator, in accordance with the prophecy.
Kurunto Wormhole Organized Reconnaissance Movement	Posted - 2009.01.30 10:20:00 - [64] I would go in with a HAC to begin with, cloak fitted. It should be able to handle some DPS and is fast enough so you could burn back to the hole if need be.
Sinistro	Posted - 2009.01.30 10:32:00 - [65] Originally by: Kurunto I would go in with a HAC to begin with, cloak fitted. It should be able to handle some DPS and is fast enough so you could burn back to the hole if need be. yeah, to check out what to expect from the npc's and what loot they drop. Though I think we will hear more info on this when it hits sisi, then we can already prepare ships a bit better for that kind of exploration.
hellsknights SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.01.30 10:34:00 - [66] i usualy do this 3 times a week on average with the wife.
Nutsy Gutbuster	Posted - 2009.01.30 15:30:00 - [67] Posting only because the topic has "hole" and "penetration"
Norpa	Posted - 2009.01.30 16:12:00 - [68] Originally by: Nutsy Gutbuster Posting only because the topic has "hole" and "penetration" AND WORM!
Ana Vyr DB - LJ Industries	Posted - 2009.01.30 18:06:00 - [69] Does anyone expect hole camping to occur?
VoiceInTheDesert Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.30 20:28:00 - [70] Originally by: Ana Vyr Does anyone expect hole camping to occur? Haha...hole camping....
Nubswarm001	Posted - 2009.01.30 20:30:00 - [71] Il penertrate your wormhole
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.30 20:51:00 - [72] Originally by: Nubswarm001 Il penertrate your wormhole don't you mean "Warm hole?"
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.01.30 20:56:00 - [73] Originally by: Karrade Krise Originally by: Nubswarm001 Il penertrate your wormhole don't you mean "Warm hole?" Only if you are tightanready.....
Sean Faust Gallente Point of No Return B.L.A.C.K.	Posted - 2009.01.30 21:00:00 - [74] Originally by: Ana Vyr Does anyone expect hole camping to occur? isnt that something like c*ckblocking?
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.30 21:11:00 - [75] Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: Karrade Krise Originally by: Nubswarm001 Il penertrate your wormhole don't you mean "Warm hole?" Only if you are tightanready..... Confirming my TitansReady.
TigerXtrm BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.02.01 01:47:00 - [76] Damnit I didn't want to be childish and laugh at this but I did. DAMN YOU!
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.01 01:49:00 - [77] Originally by: TigerXtrm Damnit I didn't want to be childish and laugh at this but I did. DAMN YOU! Then our work is done. reprocesses character and fades into nothingnesslessness CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Ace2001	Posted - 2009.02.01 05:36:00 - [78] ....I love you people so, so much. My inner perverted-space-nerd hasn't been this happy since I found out a naked girl was plugged into the Mothership before journeying home.(/Homeworld reference.)
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.02.01 06:00:00 - [79] Originally by: Soporo I know it's a tad early, but I've been thinking about what ship I can fly that can be best fitted for my first Wormhole penetration. What will I need, barebones? I realize we won't know what the new probe stuff will eat up yet, but I can get an idea by thinking about all this now. I'm guessing a decent PvE tank, but I would be astonished if the wormholios don't neut and do other nasty things as well so passive is a definate option. Oh, and reasonable dps for BS sized targets, a scan probe launcher (ouch that cpu) and a salvager. Also, fits that require wads of ammo or cap boosters is probably a bad idea. I made the judgement that a BC or BS sized vessel would probably be the best thing to use by shere dint of available CPU and grid, I could be wrong. I also assume that because it will basically be 0.0 mechanics so that using a t1 insureable would be smartest. I made some strange but probably workable fits using everything from passive shield tanking Domis (my shield skills are uber but my armor stuff blows, and to be blunt I was suprised at what I could do with it if I ignored potential failmail lols) to Drakes to Nighthawks to Rattlesnakes to Scorps and Ravens. Out of all of them the Scorp fit I made is the only one with at least some potential to escape an unwanted PvP encounter but as usual the dps is bigtime lacking. The Rattler could probably drive some people off by merely boring them, but it's an expensive ship. I have decided on something though. I might post it later if I see some crazier fit than it. Regardless what do youy reckon you will enter with? I think I am doing the penetration in an Arazu. Have not really decided yet, but that ship looks hawt enough for the job.
Jukhta Mein Domini Umbrus R.U.R.	Posted - 2009.02.01 06:27:00 - [80] The stabber looks cut out for the job.
0SAMA BinLaden	Posted - 2009.02.01 10:47:00 - [81] Is there any info on being able to jump cap ships in or not? If we can jump in then this will just be like NPC 0.0 where you cant gain Sov but can exploit roids/moons/npc's. "The expanding universe" to cut down on server lag.

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