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Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 09:15:00 - [1] I just figured there is no option to transport a rigged battleship through highsec. - assembled ships don't fit in any cargohold - can you spell freighter? - courier contracts are limited to 120.000m¦ - can you spell freighter? - orca's ship bay is to small. (it holds exactly 2 hulks, no more space for even a shuttle. stupid!) Can someone pls enlighten me why this should make any sense?
ResearchBunny Beatrix	Posted - 2009.01.29 09:28:00 - [2] Edited by: ResearchBunny Beatrix on 29/01/2009 09:29:01 Buy shuttle, fly to battleship, put shuttle in battleship cargohold, fly battleship to destination PROFIT!!!!11111 ? ps: you really don't want to make every type of trading efficient on a large scale, that would keep new people from having anything to do - you know, like wasting time flying 20 jumps in highsec to pickup a rigged battleship and bring it to jita to resell for profit.
Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 09:40:00 - [3] Originally by: ResearchBunny Beatrix Edited by: ResearchBunny Beatrix on 29/01/2009 09:29:01 Buy shuttle, fly to battleship, put shuttle in battleship cargohold, fly battleship to destination PROFIT!!!!11111 ? people are so smart! 1: The "I saw and bought a cheap rigged faction BS on contracts to make some ISK" scenario Buy shuttle, fly to battleship. Can't put shuttle in battleship cargohold cause i can't fly the battleship. Gallente BS lvl 3 missing ffs. profit ??? 0000 2: The "My friend has an empire war and wants me to haul his BS" scenario Friend contracts BS, i can't fly. Profit ??? 3: The "I bought a nice shiny freighter to do courier jobs and get VERY rich" scenario WTF 120.000m¦ max ? profit ?
Permadocked Panda	Posted - 2009.01.29 09:45:00 - [4] Maybe you/your friend should stop being a ***** and fight the people who wardec'd you, or him, or wutever.
Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Permadocked Panda Maybe you/your friend should stop being a ***** and fight the people who wardec'd you, or him, or wutever. Looking at your name and your comment, i see what you did there But be assured sweety, he does. Fortunately he is not dump enough to fly his bs solo to the fighting area ;)
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:01:00 - [6] No, it does not need a fix. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. Aha
Davison Rockefeller	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. That's an interesting statement ... lol
Uri Hatzah	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:06:00 - [9] Edited by: Uri Hatzah on 29/01/2009 10:06:14 Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. I just love people showing off their brains like this edit typo
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:10:00 - [10] Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. Ya, let's all quote this post and make more stupid posts.
Gonada Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:10:00 - [11] it does not need a fix. you want to haul rigged ships? learn how to fly a freightor. or, you can ..... wait for it..... make a contract!! and when you make that contract, dont cheap out. it costs alot for people to get into a freightor and what really irks my alt and those i know is trips across highsec for little cash .
Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Gonada it does not need a fix. you want to haul rigged ships? learn how to fly a freightor. or, you can ..... wait for it..... make a contract!! and when you make that contract, dont cheap out. it costs alot for people to get into a freightor and what really irks my alt and those i know is trips across highsec for little cash . Read again mate ...
Michele Pfeiffer	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:20:00 - [13] @ Vaal Erit from the NPC corp can you explain your bold statement?
Mish'Kala Minmatar Atomic Heroes	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:44:00 - [14] Yes it would be nice to have a 'high sec' carrier, but to make sure it didnt interfere with existing ships it would need to simply be a hangar with engines. Same rules apply as with other Carriers, fitted ships with only Ammo in the cargo hold, and it should have no cargo space of its own (thats the orca and freighters jobs). jump Capable? maybe, but as it can use Stargates in Highsec i'd say no. Also Limit slots, no weapons and no drone bay. It shouldnr become a high sec fleet mainstay.
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:30:00 - [15] You want to make a ship that has the single purpose of transporting Rigged battleships? What next? Make a mammoth that can blow up everythin on a grid but do nothing else? A ship that can plant itself and rep everyone but do nothing else? I suppose you want a ship that can only mine but do it way better than all the other ships, or one that can cloak and bridge other ships to systems but cant lock a HAC before down time? This isn't very EvE... Serious though, What you want will be huge. Meaning it will run 800 mill plus. How many rigged battleships do you sell? Enough to recover that overhead?
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:39:00 - [16] I would love a ship that could only transport assembled ships in its cargo bay, and could not load/unload in space. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:47:00 - [17] Edited by: TimMc on 29/01/2009 11:48:05 Edit: wait... what? rigged ships don't go in cargo bays?
Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:49:00 - [18] Originally by: TimMc Edited by: TimMc on 29/01/2009 11:48:05 Edit: wait... what? rigged ships don't go in cargo bays? for battleships only that is.
Vanessa Vasquez KIA Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:52:00 - [19] Op is right. There are no capitals in highsec, but everything else should be transportable. Rigged as well. Why is this 120.000m¦ limit for courier contracts ?
Delta Wings Evolva' Spirit House of Mercury	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah Originally by: TimMc Edited by: TimMc on 29/01/2009 11:48:05 Edit: wait... what? rigged ships don't go in cargo bays? for battleships only that is. transports too. I think you can only move ships repackaged, in a freighter that is. [color orange]this is not a link[/color]
Mr Merenque	Posted - 2009.01.29 16:20:00 - [21] Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez Why is this 120.000m¦ limit for courier contracts ? hmm, i don't understand that limit either.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.29 16:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. Ya, let's all quote this post and make more stupid posts. can i haz join into the supid poasts , i am quite good :) This week EvE Life: Fleet fighting blog is now available
Element 22 Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.29 16:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. Ya, let's all quote this post and make more stupid posts. can i haz join into the supid poasts , i am quite good :) I madez u a stoopid poests but i eatz it Signatures are annoying...kinda like me.
Liz Laser	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:03:00 - [24] Why, exactly is it important to haul FITTED ships through highsec?
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:20:00 - [25] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 29/01/2009 17:20:19 Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Vaal Erit No, it does not need a fix. Ya, let's all quote this post and make more stupid posts. can i haz join into the supid poasts , i am quite good :) This thread needs more pyramids Also pretty sure it is working as intended. If CCP wanted you to be able to haul rigged BS's they would have made the Orca maintenance hangar a little bigger. Think they may have even said in the Orca devblog that this was all intended. ------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Kuranta Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:21:00 - [26] Originally by: Liz Laser Why, exactly is it important to haul FITTED ships through highsec? It's not about the mods, but the rigs. Which would go poof if the ship is repackaged. Rigs give your ship the edge eventually - OTOH, rigged ships are a pain in the ass to transport (at least in high sec). This is by design and should stay as is. Rigs are not just another mod but a luxury good - so treat them as such. Think about weather or not to rig the ship. When you do rig it, you either have to fly the ships yourself to another system or trash the rigs. Fair tradeoff, imho.
Silvana Kor'ah	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Liz Laser Why, exactly is it important to haul FITTED ships through highsec? Well, i dunno if it's "important", but it's nasty as you would need to destroy the rigs when you repackage, right? And i don't see a particular reason. You can haul fitted frigs, cruisers, battlecruisers ... just battleships exceed the max. size of contracts and haulers cargohold/shipbay. And as rigs are expensive (3 of some cost even more than the bs itself), you will most likely find rigs on bs when it comes to T1 vessel rigging. Makes sense ?
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:50:00 - [28] Battleships are supposed to be huge and hard to move around. That's why they're battleships. If battleships could be moved as easily as other ships, I demand +10K PG and CPU on my Wolf.
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Mr Merenque Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez Why is this 120.000m¦ limit for courier contracts ? hmm, i don't understand that limit either. I think it may have to do with the size of the freight container. 120,000m¦ is the most that can be put into them.
Dreamwalker	Posted - 2009.01.29 18:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah Well, i dunno if it's "important", but it's nasty as you would need to destroy the rigs when you repackage, right? And i don't see a particular reason. You can haul fitted frigs, cruisers, battlecruisers ... just battleships exceed the max. size of contracts and haulers cargohold/shipbay. And as rigs are expensive (3 of some cost even more than the bs itself), you will most likely find rigs on bs when it comes to T1 vessel rigging. Makes sense ? You should try the T2 rigs, they cost as much as my Golem. So no I won't be repackaging the ship. But I would like a way to move it without it costing 800 million isk.

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